W00t

I'll be sure to help you guys test this out! Where should we go to report bugs we find and such?

Jesus christ you missed the line?

"Need to report a problem with the beta? Just open up a new ticket, and be sure to add [BETA] to the ticket title."


HOW DO YOU MISS THAT D:

furries bro.

furries,bro.

Furries, bro.

Furries, Bro

FUS RO DAH!, bro.

Your icon + those words = HAHAHAHA!

+1 internet, bro

lol bro XD

yeah bro

Looks similar to Google's nav bar. But it's okay.

But weren't users expecting the new FA to look like this: http://fa.techkat.co.uk/ #toomuchsparetime

Interesting. :) Well, we'll see how it goes from here on out. :)

i like that idea but i dont like how its not up in the corner i think if u have that my FA tab just added to the existing user area in the upper right i think it will look good

is beta all fa will use as a site formatt

Well Fender :P It seems your furmembers prefer the design I have, with a few changes here and there.

No offense, but I think your design looks like something created with one of those free website creator tools from 5 years ago.

But the design as it stand now looks like something that was created 6 years ago that hasn't changed at all. Oh wait, that's exactly what this website is.

Well I will tell you that it was made from scratch with Notepad++ :)

Does not really matter what it was made with as that does not change what it looks like.

This one looks much better http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l.....jugo1_1280.jpg It is simple, yet elegant with everything well laid out.

Yours is way too jumbled and lacking style.

Well thanks, that means a lot... :/

Being a web designer (or any designer, artist, or person with a profession), I recommend that you take critique in stride.

But the way he says it is like saying i suck at it.

No, he just isn't sugar-coating it.

Well fuck it. I don't usually take critique well so I tend to improve myself if it happens.

I gotta admit man, when I saw that I could just imagine you saying "Ouch, right in the pride!".

I just recommend you don't take it too personally. What you did is functional from a design point of view; the image is just that, an image. As you can see quite clearly below, a significant number of people love your design.

If you don't mind me doing so, I'd like to suggest 2 things for the BETA design you created and other designs:
- Lay off the rounded edges a little. I noticed you have a tendency to use the border radius quite a lot and I will admit it can be a little too much at times. Using it scarcely does a great job at making the design stand out. That's where I will credit the design picture; it uses a border radius but sticks with a boxy layout creating a nice contrast and makes it appealing to the eye.
- [This applies just to the BETA design] Try streamlining the menus a little more. The account menu and the submissions menu seems a little too chunky and draw attention.

It is a good design you've put together and I'll be honest in saying it's along the lines of what I expected from the BETA. The current one may be efficient, but it is fairly underwhelming :I

Good Work, Man :)

Hmm... I see.

Well I had a thought last night and decided I *might* re-design a new layout.

and here i come to burst you bubble it looks to much like inkbunny sorry but i dont think we want that

I really like that one :)

you said exactly what I thought when I was reading this thread.

There's just no structure to it... the margin is horrible, so is the typography and colour scheme (of his that is, yours already looks a lot more appealing).

Just saying that looks much more appealing

The BETA or my replica? :P

Yours :D

Thanks ^^ If only Dragoneer hired me, I'd be able to make FA better! D: #HasWayTooMuchSpareTime

I think it looks nice too..

I'm blushing ^//^

This!

A debate needs to be formed! BI

They already have a Netcat, they need a Techkat.

I do agree you have your way around codings and layout making. You would be a nice addition to the tech team of FA

Thanks :) But I doubt I would be considerred a team member.

I don't think you know much about webdesign or code, because with all due respect to techkat, his code is jumbly and that template has several major issues in regards to structure, colorscheme and typography.

He's a beginning webdeveloper, and I'm convinced he's got it in him to eventually become a skilled webdeveloper, but he has a way to go and lot's of things to learn before then

You don't even know me, so how else would you know? For all you know I could've improved...

since I can't reply to you directly anymore as you prefer to stick your fingers in your ears and shout nananana! when someone is giving you critique I'll just reply it to myself, knowing you'll probably read it anyways.

I know that from what I've seen of your FA beta, and your revamped personal website.

The way you criticize me is like saying "You suck. Get a new hobby." and I don't take criticism that well. Why not be useful, and be helpful? Rather than be Mr. I fucking know everything? What the fuck is this typography shit? A website is just a website, it doesn't need the bloody dictionary.

if you want me to give you an indepth constructive criticism that you can learn from, I'll do it once, but not over something like FA. You should still have me on skype.

I don't know everything, far from it, but I do make my living from running a webdesign and development company so I do need to know what I'm talking about. Typography means choice of font, there's a lot of terminology involved in the job, and if you want to do it professionally (which you've given plenty indication of that you want) then you have to learn the terminology too.

But then when I add you on Skype, you're still giving those damn criticisms I hate. You wanna add me? Go ahead... but you're off my list if one single criticism is said to me.

how am I supposed to give you advice and help you learn if I can't provide you with constructive criticism? No it doesn't work that way. I'm also doing you a favour by sharing my time and knowledge with you to help you learn. I'm offering you an indepth criticism with explanation and examples of only one site, but that's it. If you want it, you'll have to add me on skype, if not then that will be your loss.

Your criticism is what annoys me. You say it in a kind of way where it sounds like you're saying I should quit coding. I'm not gonna add you, you can add me. At least then I'll know you're up to the challenge to work on a better criticizing technique.

there is nothing wrong with the way I give critique, nowhere do I imply that you should quit coding. All that I have implied/outright said is that you're not ready for some of the things you claim to be ready for, that you still have a lot to learn and that there are several things that are not good about your design. And I'm already doing work by taking the time to give you critique.

If you want to learn more about webdevelopment and design, you're going to add me not the other way around. This is the last thing I have to say about it.

Then it looks like I'm learning on my own.

suit yourself, but don't expect me to stop critiquing your design or replying when you're handing out wrong information

I'll do what I please. Wrong information my ass. :/

I'm not stopping you from doing what you please, but do it with consideration. If you develop a website for someone and your code is so-called spaghetti code, then someday some developer's going to have a bad day having to work with that code. There are already enough submissions on the daily wtf, please don't go adding to them.

Does it matter about the way I code? And what do you mean submissions on daily wtf? :/

yes the way you code matters. You're not the only who's going to be working with your code when you start doing work for clients.

And submissions to teh dailywtf means just that.

I don't let others touch my code. So they won't need to know my method.

And you'd better tell me what you mean by daily wtf :/ Cuz you are making me anxious.

You don't have a choice in whether others touch your code or not, as soon as you built a website for a client someday they will want an update and you might not be available or they're not interested in hiring you anymore. Then a developer has to work with the code you wrote. If your code is messy or full of errors that developer is going to have a very bad day.

thedailywtf is a blog website full of wtf's happening in the IT world, a lot of bad code gets sent to that site and published for other developers to have a laugh at.

Tough shit basically :/

So you're saying MY code is on there? Seriously, you are some idiot. You go around kicking off low-experienced coders from the internet and then think you can take over.

And another thing, if I wanted to add you on Skype, how am I meant to know what your username is? #nothelpful

Do me a favour, yeah? Keep your nose out of my business, and I'll keep it out of yours.

Where did I say your code is on there? I didn't say that at all.

I m not kicking off low experienced coders at all, and I don't need to take over from you thank you very much, I'm doing quite well on my own.

The idiot here is you, thinking you're already ready for big projects and that you're too good to be critiqued. You need to learn to swallow your pride, take the critique and advise, learn from it and become a better developer, else you'll be stuck at your current level.

I thought you still knew my skype, if you don't, ask stuart otterson for it.

I don't learn from criticism.

And I don't have your skype because the last time you were like this, I blocked you.

if you dont learn from criticisms, how do you intend to learn at all. It's based off of constructive criticisms that you learn the flaws and errors you've made in your work so that you can then take them into account and improve on them

And I will say for the 1,000TH TIME: Your criticism method is what bothers me.

what according to you is wrong with my critique then?

All I'm doing is giving you an honest, straightforward, no-jokes assesment of the work you put online. If you want to have advice on how to improve the things I critiqued, or if you want to have examples, get my skype via stuart otterson, and add me on it, and I'll do that for one of your websites. If not then not.

The way you give critique to me like saying I suck at it completely. And it puts me off.
And I am *NOT* going to nag Stuart for someone's Skype. Why not save time and note me it instead.

You're not nagging him for someone's skype, but for his boss's skype. He's the teammember I intended to ask to help you out with advising you on how to improve the design.

If I thought you sucked at it completely then I would 've said that straight out, since I didn't say that straight out, my critique isn't like that either but you're interpreting it like that. All I can say about my critique is that it's straightforward, I'm not sugarcoating it. You might not like it, but that's the way I give critique, that's the easiest and most effective way to do it. Take it or leave it it's up to you.

You can note me your Skype. I am not nagging anyone.

suit yourself, if you dont get me on skype I wont expand on the advise and examples

Why do you have to be so difficult? It's just as easy to note me. Seriously...

because if you aren't going to listen to me now, you won't listen to what I have to say / teach either and it'll be wasted effort to attempt and help you

I'll listen if you tone down with the BAD critique.

point out which of the critique I have given you is bad and why it is bad, because as far as I know and am concerned I have only given honest, straightforward critique.

I'm not gonna continue on the comments. You can either send me your skype and find out, or not.

heh suit yourself, that information isn't valuable to me, whereas information that allows you to become a better webdeveloper is valuable for you

You said yourself you want to help me improve, if you just tone down with the criticism tone, like "needs more this" or "this that is not right" etc, you get what I mean.

go ask stuart otterson for my skype then

Looks like someone can't take criticism and the thoughts of a decent webdev is thrown into the gutter because of his holier-than-thou attitude .

Yours looks way better... I was expecting FA to go through a complete overhaul, yaknow, get rid of all these forumesque horrible text boxes and the squareness and make things look shiny and modern.

Yours isn't perfect, but it's better. Well done.

Thanks ^^ That was done months ago so I've improved a little.

Yaknow what would be AWESOME? Collapsible text threads. So we can skip people chatting and just look at what comments have been added to the actual subject xD I see this in art all the time and the way it expands pages just irks me.

Though not like tumblr, tumblr's layout looks messy

You mean with jQuery's Toggle Effect? x3

*headtilt*

Go here: http://api.jquery.com/slidetoggle/ And scroll to the demo :3

Not even animated... I find if things are too animated they get tacky. Mind, that's just me. I loathe any flashing avs or ads.

There is a non-animated version, just pops it into screen instead of animation :)

Ah, sorry xD well like that then

Like I said x) If FA put me into their team, heck I don't care if I got paid for it :B I code for the fun, but I do take website commissions. If FA put me in their team, I'd get it spiced up nicely in a matter of time.

I don't doubt. :P They need some zazz in the team. I suggest you take a duster with you.

I'll have something better than a duster :P

Nah probably more along the lines of a cattle prod or a tazer.

+1 internet xD

sorry to burst your bubble, but in all likelyhood, no you wouldn't.

It isn't about how much time you have on your hands, but it takes skill and experience to improve a reasonably high volume site, especially one that continues to be ddossed and attacked. FA already seems to have enough leaks as it is to have an inexperienced webdeveloper run around with it.

I don't care much for that look. White text on black hurts my eyes really bad.

There can be an alternative way of changing that.

ah, ok different color schemes would be nice ^^

I was really expecting FA to go with the layout they originally said they would use. Disappoint now they're not. :C #HireMeBish

:/ yea this one they are showing on beta is kinda...well...basic and ugly.

And still with tables :C #DivsPlz!

yea :/

At this point it feels very rough and things stand out too much. Design is fluidity and while I understand this is beta it kinda felt like a big letdown that it was unveiled to users in this state. In my opinion, it should've been a bit more refined before it was shown publically. Chi.furaffinity.net imho looks better, but then the design is becoming similar to google, da, etc... Perhaps thinking a bit outside the box while maintaining your present clean and minimalistic interface is the ideal solution. It's a hard balance but hopefully will find it eventually. That is what alpha is for. Develop and refine it.

Also, I agree with all the smartphone-related comments about drop down menus, even though my android doesn't seem to have issues with it... DA's interface is terrible to navigate on a smartphone so please don't make it like that.

Best of luck :)

I don't know how to make Android-friendly sites, but just finding the code that does it is all I need.

Speaking of smartphones, that comment was suppose to end up at the bottom of the journal not as a reply to anyone. :P I liked your version when I looked at it... As for a site being mobile friendly, a simpler code will make it so. FA currently is quite good because of how basic it is. Having pop-up this, drop shadow boarder that, it can look good for a while but in the end simplicity and functionality are what we strive for, right? That's why DA is terrible. Everything is strange linking algorythms, pop-up on hover windows, new windows popping up in the middle of the page, etc... It reminds me of my ISP's new webmail. They just "upgraded" from something clean and simple to Java webmail and it is absolutely appalling, both in speed, appearance and functionality. Mobile phone browsers are constantly getting better at rendering but the complex stuff is difficult for them to do still. Simpler is often better. But like I said, I enjoyed your rendition :)

It isn't about just finidng the code that does it...

building your websites and apps that way will produce horrible spaghetti-code that is a nightmare to maintain and an even bigger nightmare for anyone that needs to work with it after you're gone.

Not you again...

I will hire you. C:

C:

I also like that better than the Beta. But If im right, there was another layout. I don't have the url to that anymore :( But that one was pretty good!

I even took the oppurtunity to create an iPhone/iPod friendly FA: http://fa.ikat.me :P Gotta be an iPod or iPhone ONLY.

I found it > http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l.....jugo1_1280.jpg that one doesn't look bad.
Ah! Well I have no iphone or ipod (not yet).

Slightly similar to Inkbunny.

Ya thats true! Unless you can use your own background and so on. I remember somewhere in 2004/2005 you was allowed to put a own banner on your FA page, and a own background. It would be cool, because its all so same thing (sorry for my English)

:P Lol, I'd rather have a furry site that we can change the content look of.

Yeah. True! It will be awesome if FA has some features like DA have.

Like I say above, if FA put me in their team, I can possibly make that happen. =3

I hope it will! PS: Your icon, I lold!

That has already been done. Its called Nabyn :p

"Sorry, registration is currently invite only! As of this moment only current members can invite other users."

Which... an open beta does not make. D:

Thats for profiles only ;P How about the entire website?

Yeah, the problem with that is it would really need to be controlled or set options. Once you get 'too' customizeable, it'll turn into a tacky furry myspace.

The only place I have seen the banner able too change from person to persons profile and like as an Sofurry, though that be awesome if it were added here as well. I like Techkat's design more than what Beta is and the Tumblir modeled design. Also some DA features be nice, like the like the way groups work, or checking ones messages, and so on.

love the ways this one is.

That one looks amazing 9_9 !

Protest! BI

Sadly, I am not working for Weasyl, or any other future furry site. :(
I am working on my own >.> But I doubt it'll be popular :(

Your mock-up is WAY cooler. So much more organized too

And didn't take too long either! :3 Most of it was done in college. #Dreamweaver

hey that looks awesome

Cheers ^^

Color scheme isn't great, but the layout is PERFECT.

If I had the opportunity, I would create a system that allowed the users to change the colors without affecting the site's important code.

[I so wish you were part of FA's Tech support you could bring a lot of new ideas to this sites fore-front and layout.

UMMM THIS.

Yes, this :D

That's very nice!

Cheers ^^

i like that lool. i like how dragoneers looked.

:P

I think it would be better if the navigation links weren't all crammed in by your icon (maybe a bit more attention to whitespace to draw your eye to where it needs to go), and if the messages weren't in their own area, which, in my opinion, is a little excessive for message notifications anyway. There's a bit of disregard to screen real estate in your design, which really poses a problem when it comes to having ads on the layout. They'd have to go below the header, and that would waste a ton of room on every page. Stylistically, it looks a bit more like a Wordpress theme than an art website layout, especially in how it's got a static width, not a fluid one, which is not a good design choice for an art site which requires that the art has a lot of room to spread out. I REALLY like your idea of having a search bar on every page though, since it's the strongest tool of navigation on an art website, and it really should be highlighted by being in the header.

Anyway, just my opinion. :) Thank you a lot for sharing your design ideas, and I'm sorry if I nitpicked too much!

Your opinions matter ^^ But really, that was just something I did in my spare time, if I had the real opportunity, then I would consider making major changes.

Have to say I much prefer this. I've sent you a review as well and just to me feels a lot more user-friendly. Well done Tech! ^^

I read your review and I am proud ^^ I will probably give my version of FA template a cleaner update =)

Hehe and So you should! You have put a lot of time and effort into your FA template and so you should be praised/rewarded ^_^

A vastly superior design. I don't know why FA has so many problems with designing a clean, attractive and easy to use portal. It's really not that hard.

If you like my design so much, then all you gotta do is demand Dragoneer to use it xD I didn't say anything :"I

Too much whitespace to the left and right - about half of my screen is empty (1920*1200)
And I think there are too many Links next to your icon - how often is the average user going to change the Icon or Profile description? However a link to the Notes is missing imho.

To preserve some more space on the screen I'd move the Notes, Faves, Journals,... and the searchfield to the bar with the links to Submit, Browse,... (like in the Beta)
Sure you can't spread the NFCJWS notifications out that much, but I prefer it close together. However I don't know how easy or hard it is to click them on a ~10" tablet with touch input.

Well like I said, it's just a replica, not the real thing. I'm not gonna bother updating a layout that wouldn't be used. It's just an example.

Perhaps a variation on both themes?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52914738/FA_Beta_Index.png

That can be arranged.

I'm bored and have time before work, so I think I'll review your beta. These are all personal takes on your site, and I could very well be wrong or we could simply disagree, however, here is my opinion of your site:

I do really enjoy your theme, however, as mentioned above, the fixed width is really a pain in the neck for larger monitors, and those are becoming more and more prevalent these days. Making it flexible would be a major improvement right off the bat.

Also, your header takes up a huge amount of vertical space, and widescreen is pretty popular as well. 245 pixels may not seem like a lot, but when there are 245 pixels between you and what you really want to see on every page, that can get old fast. I'm personally on a 1600x900, and your header is taking up the top third of my screen. It is certainly doing it beautifully though...

The fixed width also requires a pretty fixed width on the banner. I know that doesn't seem that bad, but I've noticed that a lot of the banners here, while they all end up the same height, wiggle around pretty gratuitously on the width.

Next up, as a designer, I couldn't help but immediately like the splash of color on the navbar. However, the more I look at it, the more it just... doesn't belong on a site like FA. The grey theme works so well because it doesn't taint the mood of the artwork around it. I don't think I want to be looking at moody Gothic art or reading a saucy porn, and have a cheery green and blue banner up at the top. Also, the colors just feel out of place... I mean, if they showed up more consistently throughout the design, sure, they could be made to work, but as it stands, you have a monochrome design all over, and then just that one spot with color.

The color change by the search bar is too close and needs to either have a bit more padding, have a slant or rounded edge, or be removed. Right now it just looks like the search bar is slapped on. Also, the abrupt end to the color makes it look like an even sharper drop off.

Consider moving the magnifying glass into the right edge of the search box and making it a simpler graphic. As it stands, it feels detached and looks busy.

The box around the user's avatar looks pixelated. Quick fix, but it desperately needs some anti-aliasing. The text within the box is very busy and could use some vertical spacing. You are trying to get too much in there, and it makes it confusing. Also, making the user's name larger and highlighting with a different color is typically appreciated by users, so they can quickly tell if they are logged in or not, and more to the point, IF they are logged in. Also, that name typically doubles as an easy to locate link to their profile page.

I will credit and thank you for actually putting the user's avatar into the header. I absolutely love this about your design, as it not only gives me another fast/easy way to get to my profile page and be sure I'm logged in, it also makes the site feel more personal, and it encourages users to get an avatar aside from the default, since they will see it all the time. I'm very much for this!

The bar for notices is nice, though I'm not sure about the order that you used here. That is purely a matter of preference though, I'd think.

The white text on a solid black background has absolutely got to go. You did use an dark grey instead of a black, which is a start, but you should similarly turn the white down to maybe a 85-90% grey. Also, try changing the font size to a 12.5. It's kind of tricky, but if you do, the text is 12pt, but it spaces lines like 13pt, adding a very nice vertical spacing on the text that makes it easier to read without losing your line.

Use a bit more padding on the body to get the text away from the edges and it will look much cleaner ^^

Also, just so I mention everything, I like the cleaned up footer. I'm slightly torn, because I like the extra info, but as far as general users are concerned that can probably go.

Anyway! That's about that! Let me know if you just wildly disagree with me, but otherwise, that's my take on it.

That one looks quite neat as a layout. BUT:

1. control panel is there twice, replace that from the user menu with 'submit' instead - and remove submit from the site links.
2. the message feed looks terrible and takes too much space, don't want all those seperately.
3. where do you place adverts?

other wise it's good, of course: with default colours instead of dark for me =P

1) pardon? I'm not seeing where it is on there a second time...
2) How would you suggest that it look?
3) A decent point... I forgot that FA had adverts... >_>

1. 'my fa' is the new control panel, it just changed it's name.
2. I just think its unnecessary to put each message type separately (atleast it looks like they'd all be separate links), it takes a lot of space in there, while in the old layout they don't.

Ah, so it is... and the messages do look better together as before!

So, if you don't mind, I've fleshed things out a bit. I'd love some critique and feedback on this: http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/3411003/

In all honesty, do not want that.
Everything is squashed into a small square in the middle of the screen. Colour choises with the navigation bar are bad.

It looks good and modern as a personal/small business website, but it looks terrible for a big art community website.

I can easily change it to suit everyone's likes.

Well the thing is, FA doesn't need a completely new outlook, just new features (like folders, faster access to things, better submission management system) - the current colours (im viewing from default theme) are good, and the site needs to have freedom to stretch to fit any size of screen.

Lets just see what they're bringing us before judging x)

Much prefer your design Techkat, the one FA has made is... well... they haven't done much. :I

It looks like old and tight windows XP.

Just going to chip my two cents in:

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/3411003/

I went for a fusion of your design and the current FA scheme. I think the biggest thing that has be cautious about your design is that I've not seen what any of the functional pages would look like, just one with generic text on it. That said, I made a mock up of the home page, profile page, and view submission page, so that the prototype would be more fleshed out.

More than anyone, I'm interested in your opinion, since you have the best design so far that I've seen. Please, let me know what you think!

So, are the banners going to be longer now? Love the collapsible menus, really great!

Sweet! Really great idea; love it. ^_^

Looking nice. All I want now is a "Delete Submission" button on all my submissions so cleaning up the gallery isn't such a pain.

Agreed

And a report button. > u>

seconded

second

Interesting~

Gonna try it out :D

Looks pretty good so far. c:

I'm trying it out right now and sadly, it looks sloppy. In particular, the top right section of information. It (in my opinion) looks really half-assed. Even though the pop-out menu option is probably a lot more detailed, to me it just has a sloppy feel. Like it felt "necessary" to change it. The current layout feels cleaner, it may not look as fancy, but it achieves the layout options better. But, again, that's just my opinion.

my exact opinion. just ADD the dropdown menu for the control panel ^_^

I agree.

I thought this too, and then I realized I had the other zoomed in.


ctrl + scroll (on the mouse) zooms.

I was thinking the same thing... thanks for assisting my poor brain. AND eyes

Yay! New features and fixes is awesome. Testing is awesomer. Awesomoer... awesommeer... err.. more awesome!

Kinda cool so far. ^^

Will the features from Phase 2 be added to FA eventually? c:

keyword "should"

my thoughts exactly.

it`s look pretty good. Keep going! ^^

drop down menus are good.

but the ads are kinda cut in half on the top of the beta.

so far so good

The way the ADs were placed, they'd cut off for a smaller screen :(

actuly when i zoomed very far out like 10% they fit fine

but then i couldnt read ANYTHING

I made my Firefox window smaller and they started cutting off :(

zomming 10% is zooming very far out not very far in.

its sadly made for bigger screens

Which I have. But the design also looks terrible on my large screen.

same

it seems very bright versus the grey layout

sadly if this new fa it hurts my eyes to much.

LETS DO FACEBOOK ''old layout []'' click to use the old layoout yes :)

I'd love to see it like this; http://fa.techkat.co.uk/
with a few edits, of course.

Oh we all know we want this.

Invent the "Free Pie" button.

and the epic "surprise" button :D

Maybe a "I'm feeling lucky" in the browser.

xDD that would be amazing lmao

that would be awesome!

Thanks for letting us check it out - looks like some neat changes to me!

Aesthetics on the new Nav bar are fine for me, having grown used to Google's Navbar for it's services.

Though I must inquire, is this really the only change we are going to see to the whole website aesthetically? It's a nice step, but still seems somewhat underwhelming.

And it will be transferred to the current site once deemed operable yes?

The consolidation of options and accessibility in this new bar are also an improvement btw

its trendy O30 teehee. soo.. is this the new FA? or optional?

ohh ok, :3 I would like to see how it looks when its finished, i would love to help if there is a way to become promoted to admin here. I believe I will fit the job with helping ^^

The color differences between the top area and the rest of the page bothers me for some reason.

same.

saaaaaame

yup^^^^^

agreed

They haven't gotten around to making a colorscheme yet, think of this as a FUNCTION beta as for now.

Is there any chance that journals will be able to be marked as "faved", like they are on DeviantArt, in a future update?

I do want that

i really like the Beta site!!

OMG EXCITING

I kind of like it

I'm still wondering if we will be getting the larger featured submissions. Thats pretty much the only complaint I have, I looove the new setup so far

:D!

People will bitch even after this is put into effect. I, for one, am for this!

Look, I know the FA team is doing huge efforts for make this site a good one but that beta site looks awful. It seems like you copy an paste the applications bar from somewhere and left the rest of the page like the usual FA. Where are the folders? the so promised things like "no notes feature"? where are the thumbnails size preferences? Also, if there will be only two spaces for the advertising, will be unfair for the artists who announce their stuff here.
Talking about ads, I guess IB would consider to give a chance to the banners but they won't do that, I know it.

Agreed.

I'm reading all these "I love it" "It's trendy" comments and wondering wtf is wrong with everyone.
Not much has changed and it's, as you said, awful.

I'd rather have the current look than that.

i didnt see anything i only looked and left the layout was hurting my eyes the only thing that made me go ''whats this'' was the little hover menus.

but now look at it, it looks so much like deviantart

Yes, because that's what we want. FA to turn into deviantART.

I really just don't like the BETA design.

i feel many are on this boat

As I'm reading, from these comments, most "love it".

really you should consider the people with sesitive eyes as myself the light grey layout is easier on my eyes.

the dark blue with odd grey and with is really stressfull and gave me a migrane in few minute looking at it. beside the drop down it was really hard to place what you did change.


i mean i was waiting for the differnt thumbnails, the no note thing, i understand this just beta and it take time maybe the next update might be more appealing.

The collapsible menu made me frustrated because if I moved out only a little outside the menu I had to reopen it again.

I actually like our current design. I just want the oh so promised new features such as no notes + folders...
But nope. Instead they slap up a weird header colour and make collapsible menu's...

collapsible menus that can't be opened via mobile, at that.

I've got no problem with the menus on Android, actually. Wouldn't exactly call it an impressive effort still, but hey, something's happening?

People here are so conformists or the coders are in lack of ideas.
I think it's the first.

Definitely agree on the first.

As said below, there are A LOT of graphic design majors on this site.
FA Admins could have gotten help from a lot of people in regards to the new layout.

i was just saying it was "trendy" to make them feel good, i agree more on what you are saying to be honest, i mean, it DOES look similar to the DA theme and what not, and, i would probably leave FA if it did turn to this, im alright with small changes here and there, but one big dramatic change kinda kills the mood.. like myspace trying to be facebook, and target trying to be walmart, etc. you know D: kinda kills it all..

I'm reading all these "I love it" "It's trendy" comments and wondering wtf is wrong with everyone.
Answer? There are a TON of blind white knighters for FA. Bad coding? "But it's hard!". Missing/broken features? "They'll fix it!". Bad shit goes down with the administration team and screws over users? "Well, this site is FREE, you can't complain!". ....there's seven furry sites out there that have better load times, better coding, more features, and a tagging and/or folder system that works wonders already. And another furry website called 'Weasyl' is in development and my god...it sounds like it'll be the best art site once it comes out. Here? People seem to be okay with being shown a drawing of what the site -could- look like every two and a half/three years and please them while saying the minor updates are just stepping stones to the Promised Site. *rolls eyes* I love that there's a community on the site, but I just hate how this site runs and the empty promises it delivers.

Just saying but I still have the code ready for the SFW switch I described to Dragoneer. Its lightweight and easy so. Plus I think many users would like to see it on the site.

Keyword "overdue".

Agreed. It looks like the exact same site only with this huge ugly banner thing taking up way too much space at the top. It's just..one of the reasons I like this site is how simple it is compared to other sites :/

I say fix what's wrong and leave the rest for later.

I like the design too but if we'll have folders, no more additional accounts for show our sorted works.

That's what I really want instead, I'll take folders over a new layout any day.

I really agree to this, its like they just paste it there but looks the same but make it "New" .

Seems very lazy.

For a moment I thougth it was a popup banner but no. Adding it seems a lazy layout as you told me.

Thank you, someone with eyes! :I

I go there but it doesn't seem any different in any way. Even have the word beta in the URL I'm posting from.

I'm not sure if this is only me, but the # of new message in my inbox will only show for one page, upon clicking a link, it'll revert to "( , )"

>_>

i wonder if you guys will make a option so when your browsing or something and a pic catches your eye you put your mouse over it and it gives you a BIGGER preview of the picture even bigger then the thumbnails becuse even the new thumbnials kill some pics that are giant or complex

Please make gallery folders and blacklists for us! It gets bothersome having to make new accounts or follow more accounts for a certain thing.

I agree to this comment.

Will there be an option to click on the drop down menus (like on a cell phone, where you can't access drop down menus) like how clicking "messages" brings you to different categories? This should hold true for "my FA", "Support" and "Community." Right now, clicking them does nothing.

I personally don't like the new 'stretched' heading, because it seems out of place. The dark dark blue and FA's normal navy blue together seems strange. o.o

But besides that, it's good.

dark grey** not blue

Much organized!

FA really needs an entire overhaul/reskinning. Inkbunny and dA have much slicker interfaces. I'll help you get started: there's actually artists around here, you might want to ask them for help getting a nice new design. Then you can talk to the numerous web coders and stuff, get the whole system redone. Do it!

There are artists here? :o

I think he meant webpage/graphic designers. There's only few I know. :v

There are a lot of graphic design majors on here, myself included.
I was just commenting on his sarcasm, and agreeing with it.

FA needs to step up its game.

Haha fair enough! And agreed!

Can there be a way to revert back to the 'Original' layout?

yey cant wait

I like the layout at http://chi.furaffinity.net better. the full black bar on the beta site looks weird and unpleasant.

I like this one as well, compared to the BETA with the thick header.

THIS! I do not like the clunky beta header at all, this one looks so much neater.

That one is less of an eyesore and works better.

Yes this one is waaaaaay better :3

I do love this one better. I'd love if it would float down when scrolling too.

i have a feeling alot of people wouldn't like that. i am not even sure why, but i tend to find such things irritating.

Fuck that. I've always hated those. They're tacky, clunky, and don't usually work very well on mobile browsers.

Add a button to pin it to the top (give users a choice, in other words) and I'd be dead set. This one looks so much better, IMO.

I actually like that version better. Its less of an eye-sore, is not all huge, and cluttery

oh yes, that does seem to work a bit better.

I prefer this over the beta header.

Oh my...I'm in love with this version!

It looks far better than the beta!

(Though...why the dark colors? Why not some bright coloring...?
I don't say Pinkie Pie kind of colors or a Seizure!FA, but maybe switch to a less rigid color than blue/bright blue would be fine.)

I think this site looks hideous with the bright coloring, it burns my eyes >3>

Oh my god please make this happen. The beta header looks really unprofessional, while this works really nicely.