Why I will not be returning to FurFright
13 years ago
(Originally posted as comment in Dragoneer's journal on the same topic - http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/3969859/)
I'm really sorry it's come to this, FurFright. You were my favorite con. Hell, I was FAU staff for a couple of years (though I am not anymore), and FurFright was still my favorite con. I have attended literally every FurFright ever, since the first one 10 years ago in 2003. But after what happened to me, my friends, and innocent people around me this year at the hands of the Dorsai, I cannot go back to FurFright again. Not until they stop allowing an unprofessional, incompetent, and downright hostile group of so-called professionals to represent them.
I witnessed the Dorsai member Renegade assault that attendee during the Fursuit Parade. Make no mistake, it was assault. I saw the poor guy turn away in disgust, and a moment later I saw he was gone. "Unacceptable" doesn't even come close to describing what Renegade did. He needs to be banned from ever returning to FurFright. This is not the first time I have seen him use force on a guest, and I am not exaggerating when I say that I cannot feel safe with Renegade around.
I also had an issue with "Sergeant" Steve (who incidentally is not a Sergeant in any legitimate police, security, or military organization by the way - he is a UNIX systems administrator). I was entering the hotel at around 1:30 or 2:00am, not passing through any convention space, when he stopped me from returning to my room. I asked why he had the right to stop me outside of convention space, and he told me - exact quote - "I am the hotel manager." Since I have never seen a hotel manager wear a blaze orange "Security" t-shirt and a Dorsai beret, I told Steve we should go talk to the hotel front desk. Once there he backed off his claim, first stating the hotel told him to say he's the manager, then backing down again to say the hotel was allowing him to stop people. I proved to the hotel front desk that I was a guest - since I did not feel comfortable giving my information to Steve - and they informed Steve that I was allowed to be there. Steve then left. (I will add - because I do not want to be too lopsided in my depiction - that I was certainly angry and impatient with Steve through my entire interaction with him. I had no politeness in me. This is no way excuses Steve's actions.)
Let me make this clear - I was no in convention space for any of this time. While the FurFright code of conduct never defines the term, I was in areas of the hotel which any non-furry paying guest would be allowed to occupy.
On going to my room, I realized I was being followed by another Dorsai, whose badge identified him as Crimson. As I turned around, I noticed one of them at the end of the hallway pretending to text someone. I walked past him to the vending machine, and he left. I again walked towards my room, turned around a few doors short of it, and saw he was back. I approached him and told him I felt like I was being followed - he said "That's because you are." I said to him "I don't appreciate that," and he had the audacity to respond by asking "Why not?" When I informed him that nobody who has done nothing wrong would appreciate being followed by someone whose intentions they do not know, he had no response. In order to get him to leave (so as not to reveal to him which room I was staying in), I had to show him my attendee badge and a hotel room key, despite moments ago having proven myself to both Steve and the hotel staff.
This is clear and blatant harassment, and is beyond unacceptable. I graduated high school over 13 years ago, I am done with presenting a hall pass to anyone.
I went to the hotel front desk again, without Steve present, and went over what happened with Hal (the real hotel manager). He was apologetic but I do not believe he took my complaint seriously. His idea of an apology was a free voucher for the breakfast buffet. Scrambled eggs and waffles do not say "I am concerned about what happened."
I went to the Security desk the next day with a friend who is an actual, licensed, Connecticut state security officer to ask about the incident. Unfortunately Steve was manning the desk. Steve told my friend that he felt threatened by me, because I had told him "we're about to have a problem" and we should "take this outside." This is such a blatant lie that I do not even know how to properly respond. Anyone who knows me will pick that out as a lie, because unlike the Dorsai, I never resort to threats of violence against others. It makes me literally nauseous, physically ill, to have a member of FurFright Security who is trusted with a position of authority tell such a blatant lie about me, to my face and no doubt to FurFright and Dorsai staff as well, to make himself and his actions look better when confronted about them.
Those are the worst incidents, but there were several others that were less severe, but still unprofessional. While speaking at a normal volume with one other person in my guest room, a Dorsai member knocked on my door and told me I needed to be quiet. On another night, while admittedly being loud, they interrupted again to say there was a "curfew" and we needed to quiet down, despite deliberately being in a room that was part of the "party block" where late night noise was to be expected. I have also been rudely yelled at by Dorsai members to move out of hallways, sidewalks, and other public areas.
As a final insult, when the hotel fire alarm went off at about 4:00am, I actually watched Steve leaning back in his chair at the Security desk, doing absolutely nothing to help evacuate the building or assist the guests. It wasn't until another attendee started telling people we needed to evacuate that I even saw him stand up.
My 10-year run is at an end, as is my vocal support of this convention. I cannot and will not return to FurFright so long as the Dorsai are allowed to be present, and I cannot recommend that anyone else go either.
I'm really sorry it's come to this, FurFright. You were my favorite con. Hell, I was FAU staff for a couple of years (though I am not anymore), and FurFright was still my favorite con. I have attended literally every FurFright ever, since the first one 10 years ago in 2003. But after what happened to me, my friends, and innocent people around me this year at the hands of the Dorsai, I cannot go back to FurFright again. Not until they stop allowing an unprofessional, incompetent, and downright hostile group of so-called professionals to represent them.
I witnessed the Dorsai member Renegade assault that attendee during the Fursuit Parade. Make no mistake, it was assault. I saw the poor guy turn away in disgust, and a moment later I saw he was gone. "Unacceptable" doesn't even come close to describing what Renegade did. He needs to be banned from ever returning to FurFright. This is not the first time I have seen him use force on a guest, and I am not exaggerating when I say that I cannot feel safe with Renegade around.
I also had an issue with "Sergeant" Steve (who incidentally is not a Sergeant in any legitimate police, security, or military organization by the way - he is a UNIX systems administrator). I was entering the hotel at around 1:30 or 2:00am, not passing through any convention space, when he stopped me from returning to my room. I asked why he had the right to stop me outside of convention space, and he told me - exact quote - "I am the hotel manager." Since I have never seen a hotel manager wear a blaze orange "Security" t-shirt and a Dorsai beret, I told Steve we should go talk to the hotel front desk. Once there he backed off his claim, first stating the hotel told him to say he's the manager, then backing down again to say the hotel was allowing him to stop people. I proved to the hotel front desk that I was a guest - since I did not feel comfortable giving my information to Steve - and they informed Steve that I was allowed to be there. Steve then left. (I will add - because I do not want to be too lopsided in my depiction - that I was certainly angry and impatient with Steve through my entire interaction with him. I had no politeness in me. This is no way excuses Steve's actions.)
Let me make this clear - I was no in convention space for any of this time. While the FurFright code of conduct never defines the term, I was in areas of the hotel which any non-furry paying guest would be allowed to occupy.
On going to my room, I realized I was being followed by another Dorsai, whose badge identified him as Crimson. As I turned around, I noticed one of them at the end of the hallway pretending to text someone. I walked past him to the vending machine, and he left. I again walked towards my room, turned around a few doors short of it, and saw he was back. I approached him and told him I felt like I was being followed - he said "That's because you are." I said to him "I don't appreciate that," and he had the audacity to respond by asking "Why not?" When I informed him that nobody who has done nothing wrong would appreciate being followed by someone whose intentions they do not know, he had no response. In order to get him to leave (so as not to reveal to him which room I was staying in), I had to show him my attendee badge and a hotel room key, despite moments ago having proven myself to both Steve and the hotel staff.
This is clear and blatant harassment, and is beyond unacceptable. I graduated high school over 13 years ago, I am done with presenting a hall pass to anyone.
I went to the hotel front desk again, without Steve present, and went over what happened with Hal (the real hotel manager). He was apologetic but I do not believe he took my complaint seriously. His idea of an apology was a free voucher for the breakfast buffet. Scrambled eggs and waffles do not say "I am concerned about what happened."
I went to the Security desk the next day with a friend who is an actual, licensed, Connecticut state security officer to ask about the incident. Unfortunately Steve was manning the desk. Steve told my friend that he felt threatened by me, because I had told him "we're about to have a problem" and we should "take this outside." This is such a blatant lie that I do not even know how to properly respond. Anyone who knows me will pick that out as a lie, because unlike the Dorsai, I never resort to threats of violence against others. It makes me literally nauseous, physically ill, to have a member of FurFright Security who is trusted with a position of authority tell such a blatant lie about me, to my face and no doubt to FurFright and Dorsai staff as well, to make himself and his actions look better when confronted about them.
Those are the worst incidents, but there were several others that were less severe, but still unprofessional. While speaking at a normal volume with one other person in my guest room, a Dorsai member knocked on my door and told me I needed to be quiet. On another night, while admittedly being loud, they interrupted again to say there was a "curfew" and we needed to quiet down, despite deliberately being in a room that was part of the "party block" where late night noise was to be expected. I have also been rudely yelled at by Dorsai members to move out of hallways, sidewalks, and other public areas.
As a final insult, when the hotel fire alarm went off at about 4:00am, I actually watched Steve leaning back in his chair at the Security desk, doing absolutely nothing to help evacuate the building or assist the guests. It wasn't until another attendee started telling people we needed to evacuate that I even saw him stand up.
My 10-year run is at an end, as is my vocal support of this convention. I cannot and will not return to FurFright so long as the Dorsai are allowed to be present, and I cannot recommend that anyone else go either.
However, the Dorsai are there under FurFright's direction, and years of complaints about their behavior have gone unheeded. The Dorsai have gotten worse with every passing year, and as long as FurFright continues to support the Dorsai, I cannot continue to support FurFright.
The Dorsai are the cause of the problem, but they are FurFright's responsibility.
Of course my friend who is Dorsai denies any of this occurred, but I'm not buying it.
Honestly, I don't think it is Dorsai either, just a few jerks.
I am honestly and sincerely glad that they haven't been a problem at your other convention, but I have personally been watching them harass and bully guests at FurFright and Anthrocon for years. Plenty of incidents I was merely witness to and not involved in, too, so nobody can say it's just me. There is a clear pattern, backed up by many of the near 300 comments on Dragoneer's journal, and it has to stop.
Those "few jerks" are Dorsai, and the other Dorsai as well as FurFright staff are supporting those jerks.
In fact, none of the Dorsai I know are jerks.
The reason I posted what I did to FA was because several staffers encouraged me to do so, given how bad things got.
http://www.reddit.com/r/furry/comme....._belic/c6tia9l
Not sure what's going on if other staffers admitted to hearing about problems.
http://www.change.org/petitions/bel.....e-at-furfright
Maybe Steve got inspiration from this XKCD comic: http://xkcd.com/705/
Seriously though that sucks that this all happened, I'm hoping its just these isolated jerks in the Dorsai causing all the trouble and they aren't all like this
Oh well... You should attend the End of The World Con tho... its up that way, in Rochester this Dec. https://www.furryendoftheworld.com