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Me and FA (I'm not sure how this'll go)
11 years ago
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So I barely come on here, and anyone who follows my tumblr might know by now that i'm taking a hiatus from most of online to kind of get away from some of the negativity around.
I jumped on heer to maybe clean some messages and had a lot I had missed in my absence haha.
As most of you prolly know me from, I released a film not to long ago. "Die Young" a fan animation to my favorite Kesha song!
It featured a character (then named) Jiji, who is a werewolf and as such is a direct mixture of animal and human anatomy.
To kinda set the record straight, I support this site and the furry community wholeheartedly. I for one though am not a part of the furry community. I work with and enjoy animal characters, but past that I do not have any other connection to it.
For anyone who thinks 'Jiji' is a fursona, this is not the case hahaha. She is just a character of mine, and for those of you sending me tons of messages about the recent pornographic image of her, Yes I saw it!
Did I have issue with it? Personally yes, because I just honestly thought she kinda looked stupid in it, but with the content? No. haha
That is not the first time 'Jiji' has had porn drawn of her, and it won't be the last.
Everything nomatter how innocent is sexualized, that doesn't bother me one bit, and i respect any of my fans who defended my right o have given permission, but to be honest. I totally would have give permission!
But i wouldn't have wanted to really see the final product.
My initial reaction was: wow this artist can draw, but this picture is just really dumb looking haha.
But that was just -my- opinion hahah, ive seen rule 34 plenty! It doesn't bother me
I've kinda come to terms with the fact also that 'Jiji' already has a very sexualized image of herself from the days she was owned by someone else (I didn't originally create her, but she has been mine for over a year)
The character has actually been revamped, and I changed her name to Jayjay (JJ) to kind of help move her past that sexualized image, and her negative past in general. This character has been through a lot, and has quite a history, and that isn't what I want her left with.
If she gets porn drawn of her as Jayjay, fine, but at least it will be done of her new self, rather then her gross past.
That all being said, I really don't know what the point of me being on FA is at this point.
Unrelated to the porn talk. I just don't feel at home on this site. The interface is hard to adjust too, posting is such a process that it keeps me from posting stuff I finish right away.
Even though I feel like I do have characters who would be very much at home here, I just do not feel comfortable here myself. Maybe it is because I haven't spent much time here, or maybe it's because the negativity seems to be here as well, but in a different way I'm not used too.
I don't know. Maybe this is just my feelings right now as i'm being kinda bombarded after not being online in a while. But I just don't see how I can be comfortable here, even if I have tons of anthro characters I'd love to post here.
I do want all my FA followers to know that I appreciate all the support you give me and my work, and the fact you chose to follow me in the first place!
Maybe what I need is a fresh start on this site, I'm not sure! But in any case, These are just thoughts. But if you see this account gone in the future, just understand it's mostly because I don't think i'm active enough to bother having my old art just sitting here being outdated!
Thanks all!
-Viv
I jumped on heer to maybe clean some messages and had a lot I had missed in my absence haha.
As most of you prolly know me from, I released a film not to long ago. "Die Young" a fan animation to my favorite Kesha song!
It featured a character (then named) Jiji, who is a werewolf and as such is a direct mixture of animal and human anatomy.
To kinda set the record straight, I support this site and the furry community wholeheartedly. I for one though am not a part of the furry community. I work with and enjoy animal characters, but past that I do not have any other connection to it.
For anyone who thinks 'Jiji' is a fursona, this is not the case hahaha. She is just a character of mine, and for those of you sending me tons of messages about the recent pornographic image of her, Yes I saw it!
Did I have issue with it? Personally yes, because I just honestly thought she kinda looked stupid in it, but with the content? No. haha
That is not the first time 'Jiji' has had porn drawn of her, and it won't be the last.
Everything nomatter how innocent is sexualized, that doesn't bother me one bit, and i respect any of my fans who defended my right o have given permission, but to be honest. I totally would have give permission!
But i wouldn't have wanted to really see the final product.
My initial reaction was: wow this artist can draw, but this picture is just really dumb looking haha.
But that was just -my- opinion hahah, ive seen rule 34 plenty! It doesn't bother me
I've kinda come to terms with the fact also that 'Jiji' already has a very sexualized image of herself from the days she was owned by someone else (I didn't originally create her, but she has been mine for over a year)
The character has actually been revamped, and I changed her name to Jayjay (JJ) to kind of help move her past that sexualized image, and her negative past in general. This character has been through a lot, and has quite a history, and that isn't what I want her left with.
If she gets porn drawn of her as Jayjay, fine, but at least it will be done of her new self, rather then her gross past.
That all being said, I really don't know what the point of me being on FA is at this point.
Unrelated to the porn talk. I just don't feel at home on this site. The interface is hard to adjust too, posting is such a process that it keeps me from posting stuff I finish right away.
Even though I feel like I do have characters who would be very much at home here, I just do not feel comfortable here myself. Maybe it is because I haven't spent much time here, or maybe it's because the negativity seems to be here as well, but in a different way I'm not used too.
I don't know. Maybe this is just my feelings right now as i'm being kinda bombarded after not being online in a while. But I just don't see how I can be comfortable here, even if I have tons of anthro characters I'd love to post here.
I do want all my FA followers to know that I appreciate all the support you give me and my work, and the fact you chose to follow me in the first place!
Maybe what I need is a fresh start on this site, I'm not sure! But in any case, These are just thoughts. But if you see this account gone in the future, just understand it's mostly because I don't think i'm active enough to bother having my old art just sitting here being outdated!
Thanks all!
-Viv
I enjoy seeing your updates on tumblr, and hope you find some peace and encouragement to keep doing what you love. I know you've had some unpleasantness (jealousy? lol) come your way, but you've shown a promising start, and I think you have the passion and dedication to really make those dreams a reality. You know we're rooting for you out here.
I think she'll be one of your more unique characters in your case because of her history, not so much her personal background but the back story to her creation.
I understand your feelings about FA. I would like to recommend the site Weasyl. You may enjoy it more for its submission process and the way art is shared between artists. By Shared I mean you can +fav and add fan art of your work into a personal file. Even files of your work based on characters, so you could do a folder for JayJay, ZooPhobia, etc. There's even a level of personalization you add on your page too like create a banner for yourself.
https://www.weasyl.com/
I understand you don't consider yourself a furry and that's fine. But I think you may like the site weasyl. There are some NSFW artist, but most also have SFW material as well. It has a better feel of art appreciation for both the artist and the work, imo. The admins of the sites are especially helpful from what I've heard.
Maybe i'll consider it!
If you do let us know :)
As for being separate from the fandom, but still enjoying the art, that's not so unusual as you think, particularly if your personality does not 'demand' inclusion in that kind of group. There's great folks who are furs, but the fact that they are great means you don't have to be a fur to have them as a friend or a fan.
Keep drawing, have fun, and ignore unappreciative people who contribute noting to you or anyone else.
You do whatever you feel is right, though. I've fallen in love with your work and would stalk you to the ends of the Internet
The link on your da Jays says enter password :c
As for the porn thing, you handled that a bit better then I though you would. I haven't seen it myself but know its just a matter of time before I see it on the front page.
i happen to not think humans the most attractive life forms in the universe, and the addition of some 'animal/alien like' features improve their appearance a very great deal.
i am neither for not against the sex thing and my interests are more in creating and exploring (both nature and the spirituality in nature and technologies of infrastructure which respect nature and our own life's dependence on it). everything is some part of that, but no one part is a bigger thing then anything else. well that's my perspective. so when people either call themselves furry or distance themselves from it, again forgive me, but i can make no sense of what they are talking about.
As for the negative stuff, I've seen some of those bad comments. I'm sorry you had experienced any negativity from being forcefully associated with the fandom or from within the fandom itself. I hope you keep a sensible approach on this too and won't let it get to you.
I wish you good luck and look forward for more works from you. Even if it won't be posted here. Especially of JJ , 'cause she's such a fun-designed character.
JayJay Werewolf is an amazing character, I like her a lot. Maybe you could use her past (as Jiji) in a story in Zoophobia, (if you haven't already.)
BTW, you mention in the "Artist profile" of your "user page" that you have launched Zoophobia. Could you add a link to the comic, please?
And to all you haughty, naughty sinners and vagrants among the pornographic community - SHAME upon thee for victimizing poor young ladies like Vivienne! Oh what a sophisticated, beautiful name... for shame for shame for shame.
For you Vivienne, a haiku. Greatest of superior Eastern prose~
╔════════════ ೋღ☃ღೋ ═══════════╗My katana thirsts
For the blood of porn artists
They dont stand a chance
╚════════════ ೋღ☃ღೋ ═══════════╝
You seem like a reasonable person to me, and I find no fault with your assessment of what I drew.
If you would like for me to remove the image I drew from my FA gallery, you have respect enough from me that I would oblige.
But again you can do whatever you want.
I'm honestly happy that you are reasonable as well! I'm sorry so many people attacked your image, It's fine to disagree and want to defend me, but sometimes it just causes way more negativity then there should have been in the first place. So I'm sorry it caused such a storm.
But as you can tell, my attitude toward the situation is one of levity. I kinda just get a laugh out of how silly it all is.
ANYWAY, sorry again about the whole thing, and the best of luck to you. You certainly apply your talents much better than I do!
It's fine though! I appreciate you being so reasonable and thank you for that! c:
I'm no furry as well by the way, or at least I don't consider myself as one. This site has a lot of really cute artwork and a great community, both of which I really like. If being part of this community makes me a furry then so be it. I don't really care :P
I do like to share my photos here, mostly animal photos :3 https://www.furaffinity.net/view/15077224/
And maybe it's because I'm German but... I like the upload process. It's very methodical (multiple steps, choose the category first, etc.) and we Germans love boring methodical stuff for some stupid reason!
when my commissions list and projects weren't in the way. x__x
One thing is for sure on this site, things can get unpredictable. x.x
Just be careful. *salutes*
Best thing to do is leave the site and stick to Tumblr or DA. Unless you want to do porn commissions, this wouldn't be the best place to showcase your work. Best of luck to you!
The Negativity exists so the positive times can feel all the better, life is a experience of ups and downs. Can't have one without the other.
If you do decide to leave, I STRONGLY suggest leaving this journal here, to explain the absence and not leave a magic puff of smoke behind.
Too many artists just upright delete EVERYTHING, adding to the confusion. q.q
Thank you for sharing your works here and considering to even do so in the first place. c:
Whatever you choose to do, you will have my support, as I find your art and animation incredibly beautiful, and such a thing should be treasured and allowed to blossom and grow! Keep up the good work :)
I'm glad you clarified everything and settled everyone down because people losing their shit and attacking someone for drawing something that they don't see fit is wrong. Especially if they don't really have much of an authority over it all.
Again I want to be honest with you because I don't want to cause any bad blood around here, so I'm just clarifying for the possible future if it does happen
Love your stuff and can't wait to see your next project, your video "Die Young" reminded me of my beautiful childhood I had back in the 90s I dearly missed and i thank you for having me relive that nostalgic moment every time I watch the video of yours
I know you don't know me but I wanted to let you know that I understand where you're coming from. That being said please don't let the negativity cause you to think that's all this site is about. There are SO many kind, loving, generous people here. I know a lot of non-furs who use this site to post their art. I think you would have a lot more positive impressions if you stuck around for awhile. No matter where you go you're going to find drama but at least here you've got folks who appreciate your work more than most people would.
That's just my feeling at least. Thanks again for all the wonderful work you do.
-Z
but yeah.... eh, really interting to know of a chacrter you've helped make better too!
totally forgot what i wated to asy after reading your journal.... so i feel bad saying anythign now, but yeah..... hey, just do things that'll make you happy and occasionally try new things, or old things again, who knows maybe one day a thing that is awkward and weird can become.... easier.
i guess.... just ignore everything i said.
I hope you join weasyl, it would give me another person to watch over there lol