<3

NO

YES

YAY

Mu.

Pi

KACHU

HA

METH

BR
BA

SALUD!

BRUH!

No. >:V

huzzah?

Kumquat.

Gezundheit!

GRZEGORZ BRZĘCZYSZCZYKIEWICZ, CHRZĄSZCZYŻEWOSZYCE, POWIAT ŁĘKOŁODY!!!

Corruption levels at twenty per-r-r-r-r-r-r-r RATS CANNOT THROW UP.

The fact sphere is the best sphere.

Hazzuh/

RAWR

SNARL

Yiff

Ew no

thats great if you think its gross have fun having not sex :D

Not the action itself, just the fact that you decreed it in public. ^.^
Go into any other comment location and post "Let's have sex!" and see the same response. ;)

THIS.

That?

Thot.

Chrzaszczyzewoszyce!

Meow

-red panda noises-

b-but.

no butts!
Only dreams now!
http://i.imgur.com/yw8Ye8O.gif

Yay, let's have not sex together! I DEMAND RULE34 OF LOGICAL EQUATIONS. And then let's make porn^~porn=1 so everything will be possible.

[B]Hahaha omg!
i hav never seen that before![b]

Yeah sure. Have fun yelling randomly in a public journal 'sex!'.

MEOW

Purrr.~

Meow! :D

Roar!

PNEUMONOULTRAMICROSCOPICSILICOVOLCANOCONIOSIS

What's going on?

...
Meth is a hell of a drug

I rek ur nan last night.

Necrophilia is a hell of a problem.

Y SO SRS BRO

Over 9000?

WHAT 9000

Panda.

Why is a cow, Alex?

Lambda.

PHOQUE YOU

PHOQUE ME :)

O-okay - hang on *unzip*

*strips in public cause I dont care*

Seems helpful so far. Hope everything works out in the end.

what are you doing here

also testin' editing

I cant seem to access the Beta site to check it out

Edit: Well I found the Edit option on this version of the site LOL

You are an umbreon and I love you

*cult of umbreoon*

Thanks for the update~

yw :V

Really digging the edit function!

Yeah- but you only get a five minute window to edit your comments...then the option is removed.

I don't personally see any issues with the small time window, it's enough to fix any typos for most cases.

I completely agree. And it keeps people from being able to bait others into arguments just to change their comments later :)

Edit: Just for the sake of saying I did :D

Honestly...
...when I get fancy and......the formating throws up inmy face,

I've wished for a simple {EDIT} to fix things bye.

I mean, by.

*pokes jupe* XD :3

Edit: Jup.

Wow, I actually needed the edit function when I first posted here! LOL! COINCIDENCE O_____O

Can't say I see a problem with it, either.

I have far too much experience with "drunk posting" and the guy (almost always male, and not just because of heavily male forum demographics) going back hours later when they sobered up and realized what a moron they had been.

I think it's really good the edit-function only have a window of 5 minutes - Makes it so that you can edit typoes and other small mistakes, not alter your comments to make someone else seem like an asshole~ C:

Yup. A 5 minute window is for the best.

The other site that I work with has like a 30 minute window. But, things move far quicker, here.

That sounds deceptively hilarious.
How many people have edited their comments to make someone else look like an asshole? I'm sure the mods can see what the comment was before AND after they edited it.

Well, I've seen replies come in seconds flat...or, like a minute ago, take two years. Five minutes is a good boundary for error fixes while trying to govern that kind of cover up issue.

This other web site might see one to three posts a day. It's really slowed down over the years.

Wellllll, that's how Etsy does it. A "limited edit" function isn't really unprecedented.

Putting a time limit also reduces the opportunity for abuse, so...

Several of the websites I use only allow 100 seconds or less to edit. 5 minutes is kind of generous, personally.

ITS QUIET USEFUL :D

I LOVE the new notes system!!! It's absolutely gorgeous!!

All the pretty :D

Right!!

EDITING COMMENTS - THANK THE LORD
EDIT: IT WORKS

Mind if I ask where this edit button is, for future reference? I don't see any button for it around my own comment, although I do see the permalink function and the hide function still.

It should be right next to the hide button

Mine for some reason isn't showing up next to the hide button. it might just be a slight error?

It seems to be a thing yeah o.o

You only have about 8 minutes to edit it. If someone replied to it you can no longer edit it I believe. ovo

Oh you are totally correct!

There's only a five minute window in order to edit a comment.

After that, the option is removed.

It never gave me the option to edit anything. even right after I post a comment, nothings shows.

That's pointless. Makes you wonder why they even bother.

As others have said, a limited edit window makes the feature available for the immediate correction of typos, but not for people who later regret what they said (or realize they could get in trouble) and try to alter it.

It allows the feature to function for a legitimate purpose, while denying an avenue of abuse for griefers who might say something inflammatory, get the expected response, then alter their original remark to something benign, making the response look excessive. It's a common thing, and why time-limit post-editing is also fairly common.

And of course, yak being yak, even with the limited window to edit, he has that little icon there now just so people know that someone made use of this feature.

Still doesn't seem worth it for only a few minutes. The trade off for this pointless feature is they've screwed the notes up.

yeah, now it has the messy format of deviantart...

I agree. FA gives a pointless limited five min edit of comments in exchange for ruining the notes.

I think FA might be getting too much money if the staff have to make pointless changes and ruin what already works.

FA's hardly getting any money; in fact, last time I checked Neer was 10k in debt to taxes. It's more like they have no money, SO they make a big deal out of little chances because it's all they can do.

Maybe they should put more thought into what they do?

That's always been my opinion as well. People are keeping the site afloat with donations, currently.

wow ive already ran into a glitch, comments showing up somewhere you didnt reply too.

It's a feature users have wanted for years. While many may see it as pointless, many many many more very much desire the ability to edit their comments to fix typos, broken links, autocorrect messing their comment up, or other minor errors. The time limit is placed to keep the feature from being abused by those who would start a fight then try and cover their tracks, or otherwise attempt to hide unacceptable remarks they've made.

It's not a trade-off for the notes, I doubt very much the two changes are interconnected, it's just two updates that happened at the same time, one mostly well-received, the other getting a mixed reception.

FA has earned the bulk of the negativity they get. They get complaints when they do nothing, of course, and they get complaints when they do stuff because they usually find the worst way to do anything, usually repeating mistakes they've already done, showing they haven't learned the lessons that should have come from the previous several instances of the same mistake. But the comment editing feature does not take anything away, or change any existing function in a significant way. It adds something, and while that addition comes with a new means of possible abuse, they did take that into consideration, thus the time limit.

There's valid complaints to be made about the change to notes, but there's also positive aspects to that. The edit feature though, there's not a whole lot of valid negatives to be made about it that aren't easily countered.

The time limit is what makes it useless. DA and SF allow you edit a comment whenever and they don't have problems with it getting abused.

While you may not like the time limit, the statement "the time limit is what makes it useless" is simply false. The feature is intended to serve a purpose, and it does so. The primary intended use - correcting typos - is still viable. The vast majority of 'woops, I messed up' corrections would be noticed and corrected immediately, with 5 minutes being a fairly generous amount of time to do so. While other sites may not have issues with abuse (they almost certainly do, even if you haven't seen it personally), FA is FA and it has fostered a community where this sort of abuse would be perfectly reasonable to expect at least enough to warrant the attempt to block it before it happens.

There is a significant difference between "I don't like this" and "this is bad/wrong/useless."

It doesn't seem enough time.

I propose an experiment. Look at your clock. When the minute ticks over, sit there. Just sit there. Wait for five whole minutes to pass. Then ask if that felt like enough time to have corrected a simple typo or 3 or 4.

If that is not enough time for a simple correction - which is the intended purpose of the feature - then I must simply suggest that you perhaps need more time than the average person would need to make corrections.

Edit: I managed to type out this entire section right here within the edit window timeframe, check it for errors, re-read the whole post, and now I'm just babbling to fill up time as the clock counts down. I am sitting here typing just for the sake of typing to show how much can be done in a whole five minutes. I'm going to add the remaining time left on the clock whenever I get just sick of typing nonsense for no reason but to take up time. This is getting to be a rather lengthy edited addition to my original comment, and yet right now, there's still 3 whole minutes left, even trying to slow my typing down and pausing frequently just to think of what to say next. Still 2 minutes and twenty-three seconds left, but I'm still going. I can't imagine anybody needing this much time, let alone even more than this, just to correct errors. I've got one minute and fifty-one seconds left still, and I am still going. I'm hoping this is clearly illustrating my point of how five minutes is more than ample time to use the feature for its intended purpose. That's not a typo by the way, 'its' is possessive, 'it's' is the contraction for 'it is.' Okay hell with it, there's still forty seconds left, but I'm going to hit apply now.

By the way, was the edit time countdown correctly shown as a sub-5 minute figure?
I've had reports of it showing more than 18 minutes in certain cases. Fixed that, but haven't had much feedback to verify that the fix actually worked.

It showed as 5 minutes for me, and seemed to be counting down just fine.

I'm curious if the edit feature leaves a history of the original comment visible to administrators in case someone does make a harassing/inflammatory/tos-violating comment and edit it during one of these unintentionally-extended-time windows.

While I have your attention, and things seem to be getting done, I'd like to point out how the current function of the 'hide comment' feature should be updated, as well. I know you dislike the idea of people being able to remove comments that aren't hugbox-fluff, but leaving behind that bar of 'a comment was here, but this person removed it' is ugly and the purpose it serves is petty. It is a function which exists for the purpose of reducing conflict by allowing people to remove antagonizing remarks rather than engage in argument, and leaving that remnant behind reduces the effectiveness of that purpose.

The only reason to have that remnant rather than simply remove the comment entirely from being visible to users (like practically EVERY other site with such a feature does) is to make a message of "hey everyone, someone's censoring stuff here." Users have no need to know that "there was something here, it's gone now" nor do they need to know whether it was the author, the page owner, or the admins. The administration should not be using the hide comment feature outside of the most extreme cases anyway (and history has shown people screencap and call them out on it when they do), and the only people who would need to know when something was hidden by the author or the page owner would be the administrators in case of investigating harassment/trolling/griefing/etc.

IIRC, you said there was some aspect of the old code's crappiness as the reason for why the notification pages >had< to show "this watch/fav/submission has been removed" instead of just hiding the notification in such an instance, but I don't think that same excuse would apply to a feature you've added.

When a user decides to remove a comment from their page, it should just remove it, and not leave that ugly remnant behind. The only people who have any valid need to be able to see what was there and who removed it would be administrators. If there's a reason why you made that feature work the way it does, other than you specifically wanting to discourage people from actually using it, please share that reason with us.

That could work for the hidden comments that haven't been replied to. Those that have been can't just vanish as that'd leave a hole in the comments tree.
I'll propose this idea internally.

Suggestion:

Users can only hide their own comments on others' pages if their comment has not received any replies. Once a reply is made, only the page owner can remove the comment.

When a page owner goes to remove a comment that has a comments tree connected to it, they are presented with the option "remove this comment and all subsequent replies/threads" or "remove only this comment, leave replies/threads visible" where the former removes that whole branch of the comment tree, and the latter operates under the current method, leaving the 'this comment hidden by page owner' bar and the rest of the comment tree unaffected.

You're so right about the ''abuse'' part.
Pretty sure everyone seen someone out there who'd long to use such feature to cover everything.

Weird... there's no such button on my end.

Ah well, I'll wait and see if it sorts out, might just be a bug needing to be ironed out.

Edit: VERY WEIRD. When I load the page it shows, but only for an instant, then vanishes. I managed to click it before it did.

Strange, since I don't have any addons or userscripts that alter FA's functionality as far as I know.

maybe you should clear your cache or something?
idk, my edit thingy is right there

EDIT: OH... that's weird

Went ahead to check my cache, but it was already emptied so I think my browser takes care of that automatically. Seems the cache has nothing to do with it. Good suggestion though.

Edit links being automatically hidden when edit window expires is the result of a small bit of Javascript code.
There is currently a known issue of that code not always correctly estimating how much time there is left, and either prematurely hiding the links or showing more than 5 minutes of edit time available.
This is being looked into.

Good luck finding and squashing the bug.

Omg! I can see the edited message as mini icons next to you

as mean you did edited a comment ^-^.

THAT'S AWESOME

This

PRAISE THE SUN 8D

hey the edits do work. NOW COMMENTS CAN BE CHANGED AND BE COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTEXT XD

Only for a limited amount of time after posting. :p

I believe edits are also disabled if that post has been replied to. Stops people cheating on auctions and such.

whoo

*drunken post last night?*

*spilled milk on your keyboard and it wrote fuck you?*

*wanna fuck with someone and edit your post over and over again?*

WELL LOOK NO FURTHER HERE IS THE FA EDIT SYSTEM.

Comment editing is a horrible idea. Cut it down to like a minute or two.
You're going to be faced with a lot of asshats writing nasty things and then changing them.

there will be asshats no matter what.

^ sad but true

That's why you limit their capability.

[Edit] Edit time needs to be lowered to just 3-4 minutes.

Edit time is supposed to be only 5 minutes, and I've read other people say that it "should" be disabled when you get replies (dunno if it does or not, though)

5 minutes is fine. If you have a legitimate reason for it to be shorter, I'd love to hear it =I
According to Yak, there is a minor glitch in the script that occasionally calculates the time remaining wrong, though (can close almost instantly, or can be 8+ minutes (what I personally seem to be getting))

Could you test editing again please? Made some changes to the countdown timer, should be more accurate now (less reliant on client time as opposed to server time)

Test comment ~~

Edit: Time seems accurate, at least on my end. One person is hardly a test, but either way, MY time limit is fixed :3

While I do like the comment editing idea for people who make actual mistakes in comments and have to reply to themselves with corrections, I will have to agree with this one. There are gonna be hateful asshats who will cover their tracks with the edit function. Maybe add in the ability to view the original comment? I don't know how it'd work, but it's an idea.

This would be an amazing fix to this. Allow the original comment to be viewed if clicked on, or something.

+1

the power of screen shots my friend. if someone writes something nasty, screencap it and save it for reference.

You have any idea how easy it is to FAKE a screen shot? XD

oooooh this is very true o.o
well i noticed that there is a time limit on how long you can edit your post. i think its only a few minutes.

On most systems, comments have a "history" of versions if editing is available, allowing site admins to see what the comment has said in the past, if it was edited.
This usually also extends to deleted comments, allowing admins to see deleted comments and what they say.

Now, I can't say if FA itself has this feature, they seem to be perpetually behind the curb on basically everything, but I imagine it would, even if it out of sheer optimism.

I actually agree to this. Will be a nice tweak to prevent people from ruining the entire thing.

This.
When dA implemented the Edit comment feature, we were able to view the original.

Agreed!

I've actually seen a couple sites do this already, and it seems to work for them beautifully. I also believe the edit times for them are something like, 24 hours....which is stupid long really, but the original comment is permanently view-able even outside the edit window.

I can understand FA's reason for this, but what you said would be perfect for keeping those idiots and trolls from editing their comments.


[Edit] Huh, thats cool... 8/ Lol still wanna see the original tho. Would def be cooler 8P

Viewing the original comment SHOULD be an obligatory addition. Unfortunately, most websites keep it as a Moderator/Administrator exclusive function when available. -.-

Off the top of my head, the only website I can think of that has this option available to all is GameFAQs.
There, you click on "Message Details", which shows you the edit history, when it was originally posted, when each version was edited, and have the various "report" options there.

you CAN only edit your coment in the first couple minutes

Up to 9 minutes, due to user testing. Thats a LONG time.

There's an edit symbol so peeps will know it's been edited from it original post

They need to add an "Edited at this time" header when something is edited with an option to view the original for the page and comment owner.

This right here.

there is no header but an edited comment has an icon to the left of the user icon and if you mouse over it it shows it has been edited.

Edit: to make icon appear by me.

I didn't know about the marker when I made the comment, but the view original comment idea still stands.

I agree but at least there is an indication of editing being done. So furs should think twice before assuming this way.

Still the ability to view the post pre-edit like in facebook and other sites would be helpful. I'm not against that idea at all. I just think they are already on the right track and they did say it was only a partial change as of now.

There's also the possibility with people changing bids in auctions too

That's a good point actually, since lots of people do use comments for things like auctions and YCH. This might take some getting used to.

Or add a History feature like DeviantART. Sure, DA comes up with some of the dumbest and most useless features at times, but the way they implemented Comment Editing was brilliant. You still have a 5 ~ 10 minute or so timeframe to edit your post, but if you edit it anyone can still view the original unedited post.

Edit it two, or three, or even ten time (Dunno why you'd need to edit a post that many times though...) and you can trace back and view each revision.
Great for fixing typos, not so great for trying to provoke someone then erasing the evidence after you've had your fun :P

Pretty much all this.
The only work around would be if the comment was/is hidden.

^This!

yes, i think it's important to be able to see the edit history thingie to know what the comment said EARLIER (also sorta like facebook)

Agreeing with this addition.

There should be an option to view "previous edits" like you can with Facebook comments

new note system reminds me of DA.

i like it though, not saying its a bad thing xD I like how yo can view other notes if needed. instead of having to press the back button all the time. xD

how is the note system different?
I see the side bar there but it doesn't seem to do anything

Notes open there instead of opening a new window.

oh, but it compresses the note down to a narrow little window. Is there a way to have it full page again?

Right click and open in new tab.
It looks like it used to.

it didn't do anything. I'm still on the same page

It works for me. I right click on the note and click on "open in new tab".

that's what I did and it just opened a new tab of the same page

It's something on your end that's wrong.
I'm using the latest version of firefox and it works.

well, is there a way to set the Notes back to the default setting?

Not that I've heard of.

I figured the Note preview would be like the one on the pics. The little tab that gives you the first part of the description so you can tell what the note looks like before clicking on it and seeing the whole thing. That would be far more useful to me

That's what I saw expecting at first, too.

Thank you so much @_@

Yeah so far I've noticed I can't fav anything and the note window is just so small. Neat idea, but having the option to use it the old way would of been nice.

I couldn't agree with the observations about the new note window more. The new little "note view" section is just completely unneeded, and clutters up the note window to the point of degrading its usability.

Fun fact, every text field window is adjustable by default. So you can just stretch and make it larger by pulling the little doodad thingy on the bottom right of where you are writing. =)

I do appreciate this update and I'm excited to see what other changes there will be. Honestly would love to JUST use FA for commissions and sales and you all did a wonderful job adding a commission tab, but notes are the bane of my existence. Would it be possible to ask if folders and options to lump together conversations are in the future changes?

Sorry for butting in, but considering what DA's been doing lately(not caring too much about the community, etc.), seeing the DA-style note system would bring back some bad memories, especially of the infamous October 2014 update and the logo update. Said updates showed that DA admins are trying to conform to other sites, such as Facebook, instead of remaining devious, as their supposed ideals are.

Please don't make the same mistakes that they did. This site is one of the safe havens for DA users such as myself who aren't fans of the updates.

Please, remain devious.

My friends and I don't like the little note window off to the side. And we don't like the "Original post @" thing that pops up at the top every time. It's annoying and inconvenient.
Please don't make this site so advanced that I can't use it. I have a very old OS and browser that cannot be upgraded.
That's why I can't use DA. Thanks.

So true but the difference here has to 10MB and DA you'd have to pay for that extra detail

DA makes you pay for everything these days. i miss the 2005 version. nothing extreme back then.

^ Yeah, agree with that. Pay for even really silly useless things..

thats a reason i dont use DA anymore, i just dont like the set up and the way they make you pay for everytjing you wanna do like.. profile lay outs and stuff. and how most artists there only use "points" for commissions or adopts.

Mhm. Points I never understood or bothered to understand. Plus a lot of the community is the derpiest people I've ever seen. I couldn't go a week without having someone nab my work and put it on their profile to claim it. -.- Actually, that happened yesterday there. Yeeee.

ive noticed that people on DA are like.. 10-13 years old these days especially the people who are new at the whole furry thing. ive never seen it happen to me there in a while, only heard of someone doing it but the proof was removed when i got around to it. and the admins there wont do much as i heard as well, and the whole "no sex allowed" there really gets to me. like.. why have mature and adult filters if you cant post anything adult related without having to sensor everything?? >.>

Haha, yeah. DA admins are known to not give a hot damn about you and your issues. Theft their is either ignored or responded to with something completely useless. XD Yeah, no sex but please keep posting your actual dicks and boobs. There is artistic nudity then the obvious sexual photography that gets ignored there.

Sorry for just replying to you, but regarding the problem with DA admins... It was just some weeks ago I sent in a ticket, about an issue listed in their FAQ that shall get noted to the admins. That's why I did so. But the only reply I got was 'Not our business' .......... And when I sent a new ticket with a screenshot of their FAQ that directs such matters to the help desk, I just got a 'Yeah, but we can't help you with this issue.' as a reply. And without even letting me say or ask something they closed the issue.... With stuff like theft I wouldn't even try to get their help, seriously.

They are such a big help, one won't believe it. It's true that the DA admins care about everything they are supposed to help with, and they never would let someone wait weeks for a reply. They are the best, you know? ... ... ... ^^;

(Sorry to jump in..) I know, right? I can't even show more than 4 deviations that are new on my page or put pictures in a forum post.. -__- Really dumb..

I can imagine your pain, I enter in 2007 I would like some useful things like "Schedule (you can upload your drawing any day of the year) and submit multiple deviations at once" were free and will not have to pay for them

that was my first thought too, way to much like DA

- though in all honesty, It'll make it easier for me to look for the right note with this system, so no complaints from me

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te pillé :v

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Carmon Sandiago.

I'm liking the new note system! Very similar to DA's note system, alas making it easier for me to work with.

Thanks for the update! :D

yw :D because no one else is saying it :D

I think the new notes system is awesome. Sure it's got bugs, but even the best set of programming code has hiccups. Programmers are only human after all.

Eagerly awaiting more updates!

Yay! Finally something good happens.

minus the Notes system which personally i HATE to no end because its annoying to look at that teeny window or opening it in a new tab id of just removed the Quote thing that people were complaining about entirely and left the Note System alone

Finally some kind of UI updates!!!
Looking forward to see more of the FA site updates soon too :3

Thank you Fender fur da update

yw :D! *saying it because these were left unthanked by the staff themselves*

But people can now actually cheat on auctions (or introduce bad arguments into a conversation).. I don't like it at all... wasn't really necessary in my opinion

if you have a typo is not the end of the world and replying to yourself wasn't that bad ..

it's more harmful to us artist those people playing with bids than a typo.

xD

There's only a five minute window to edit comments. Sure that's possibly enough time to change your bid on an auction. But it's not like they can come back wayyyy later and change it.

And people have been asking for an edit feature on comments for ages. because replying to yourself eventually ends up looking a bit messy.

a Typo is not much of a trouble for me .. it's not like I'm a grammar police and "oh you that typo is unforgivable !!" xDDD and for the mess .. it's not like you're going to chat on the comments section xDDD (people do this? o.o)

I'm aware there's only 5 minutes to edit and if somebody Reply to your comment, you can't edit anymore (I think so)

But 5 minutes is Actually a lot time to Edit a Bid. people will keep doing it and it's going to be Annoying xD.

I wish they implement the "see the previous comment" that may help a lot. but I Doubt it.

Yes, lots of people chat via comments. lol Sometimes it gets moved off to notes, but not always. You should see some of the comment sections under some submisions. Unfortunately they don't have a thing like DA where it eventually links to the rest of the comment thread if you keep talking in the comments.

When you edit your comment, there is a little symbol that shoes up next to your avatar, showing everyone that looks that the comment has been changed. Therefore, it shouldn't be that hard to add an extra stipulation/rule to your auction, that if someone who edits their comment is automatically removed from bidding/banned, etc or that they need to explain why they edited their comment, and if they cannot explain themselves convincingly then they are disqualified/banned.

If you add rules, and people break them, that's that. Some people will be irritating little shits, it's true. But they'll get wise if they're banned from bidding by everyone. lololol

I'm aware of the little pointer too xD ...

It'll still be a problem if you ask me .. people don't follow rules and while there is always the option to ban them, that can decompose the whole chain of the auction. and you wont know if the previous bidder can still bid .. (maybe not and he bid on another auction, because he "LOST".)

Now you'll have to add a

"please wait about 5-9 minutes to see if the person who outbid you is leggit before going to another auction. Thanks" xDDDD

yeah FA did changes. and that's good. but as many people said they could have done them completely and not half baked.

the Editing thing is good but only if they add the ability to see the previous one. (like on many other sites with this Feature.)

And LOL! you're right on that .. lets just hope people will not do bad use of this xD

Why wait 5 to ten minutes to see if someone's bid is legit? If they edit it, it will show that they edited it. And then they can be disqualified/banned/blocked/etc.
Of course it depends on how you work the rules.

Well, I don't know what they mean exactly by 'half-baked'. I don't really think the comment editing is half-baked. Perhaps slightly worrisome in some cases, but not completely broken in any sense. And with the notes... They work well, and better in my case. But they need to expand the area for the note viewing area a bit. Like make it half and half or something. I don't really consider it half-baked though. But, perhaps that's just matter of opinion.

Is there that functionality on DA or anything? because I've never seen it on any site I've been on. People edit their comments on DA, I can't see what they posted previously. The edit them on Youtube, definitely can't see what the original comment said, etc. 8| So what sites actually have that functionality in an obvious manner? Or in general.

There still is the bonus that you can't go back days later and edit your comments though.
I swear you were able to do that on DA for at least a while.

because you have about 9 or 8 minutes to edit . I can literally open the edit tab and wait until I have 10 seconds left in the timer. and then click apply and it will still edit the comment xD ...

I can even edit it over and over and over again all that time ... like I can do as much edits as I can while I still have time left xD

and yeah somebody said DA used to have it in the beginning. and FB too .. on youtube. well youtube is a long lost cause xD.

the notes well I don't like them TBH but it's not something that represents a problem

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yup 8 minutes and now I have 7 left!

Edit 2
7 minutes and I have 6 left!

Edit 3
and I stil have 6 ! ... o wait now ..5!

Why does that matter though, if you include a rule saying that if you edit, since your comments show you've edited, you are disqualified? Is it actually that hard to add an extra rule and then enforce it? 8| I didn't see people struggling with the 'if you hide your comment, you're banned' type rules.

And the point still is that you can't come back and edit it after, based on now observations, almost 10mins.

As for the notes, I like them, because when trying to gather information for commissions I've taken, it's a hell of a lot easier to click on a note and have the info appear to the side, rather than having to open multiple tabs or continually go back to the notes to read the next note.

I've never seen it on DA, and I've been on DA for years. I was there when they implimented the comment editing, and I don't remember ever being able to read what a comment used to be if someone edited their comment. And I've definitely never seen it on FB either. lol And I've been on there for years as well. Sooo... hrmm.

on FB you're not looking closely then xD

http://orig15.deviantart.net/8777/f.....th-d8kbwyd.png

for years soooo...

Idk on DA . I do have a DA but I don't use it because I don't like it xD. so I'll grant you that. unless you were looking as close as on FB.

the notes are other topic O.O

I'm not going to change my mind. I Don't like them. that doesn't affects you at all xD... it's the same than DA so I'll get used to it nwn.

and it's not like I think it will ruin Auctions forever XD. just consider it something I now have to look up all the time (like the comment hidding) and not a perk.

but Again Thats JUST ME. you can enjoy it if you want. xD

In the case of FB, as it turns out, it wasn't that I wasn't looking closely. So much as I'm not a nosy ass who needs to see what someone edited their comment from, it seems. I always just took the edited note under a post on FB to mean that hey they edited their comment. And in the case of most of my family and friends that means they typoed or accidentally hit the enter key before they were done typing.

I wasn't trying to change your mind on the notes, though. I was just saying why I liked them, since you pointed out that you didn't. 8|;

xD Why would I enjoy comment editing when it comes to auctions? I don't actually fancy the idea, but some people are acting like there's absolutely no way to work around it in any way shape or form. Just throwing their hands up immediately.

I only enjoy the editing functionality because I tend to typo, and I don't like replying to myself to fix said typo. Dx

I agree .. We'll have to just adapt it's not like "oh my auction is ruined!, I give up on life already" hell no XD

much drama xD .. I'll adjust and look after cheaters (if that even happen, we don't know for sure). it's just a concern, not something I think will happen for sure. maybe nothing wrong happens! nobody knows.

I was just pointing why the idea doesn't makes me happy xD. but it's not something we can't deal with.

We will.

And the notes are fine (I just used it , it's not that bad, just like DA xD) ... Edit: Even tho I Don't like the notes on DA *grumpy face*
I'm just like cats . don't like changes that much. but the notes system is something I'll get used to easily. nwn


this is not my mother language. imagine how many typos I do xDDDDD

I have never known a site to have edit histories available for comments. what sites use that? and how many auctions are run on them? Frankly other art sites have had no problem running auctions with editable comments so fa would be no different.

also what prevented someone from deleting their post after they had run a bidder out to another auction? if they delete their post then you have no idea who to connect with the winning bid. if they edit their post, you still have their contact information, so that is a step up form the previous system. the ability to not/edit posts has no influence on whether the winning bidder actually intends to pay or was just trying to run someone else off. not even comment histories would help that. you already know that because of their position in the comment flow that they are at least the minimum bid specified above the previous comment. it doesn't matter if they had an actual bid in their comment or edited it with song lyrics.

Facebook .o.o ... but anyway. As you say xD.

and nothing prevented it. and I'm not saying it's the ruin of auctions, calm down xD ...

just one more thing to look out during an auction. more a problem than a perk for me. just that xD

but that's JUST ME. I don't find it useful. but it's not the end of the world XD.

now calm down ok ;D

sorry but you are not empathetic, there was no angry in my post. and facebook allows that? ... I really don't remember that, but I stopped using it about a year ago.

well I never said you said it would ruin auctions. in fact I never made any comment about what you meant when you said it would cause problems. I just pointed out that editing a post doesn't affect that kind of cheating you are talking about. also you can't edit your post once someone has replied to it. so if the auction is so hot that 5 minutes actually matter someone has probably already upped the bid and the "cheater" wouldn't have time to edit their post. and again if they are the last bid in the series even if they changed the text every minute it still doesn't matter. you'll know the bid cause of the rules and the previous post. whether he intended to honor that or not again has nothing to do with the ability to edit posts. so really you are worrying over nothing, but since you felt the need to "calm me down" I guess you panic easily. ( hopefully this post will ahve calmed your nerves so you won't worry about this change anymore.)

sure xD ...

Thank you for your concern and taking your time to "calm my nerve" you're so sweet

you're welcome... though I must admit you don't sound sincere. if you are, then sorry for doubting you. that's the problem when you try to assume emotions behind a post.

There's an icon that appears in the teensy box to the left of an avatar when a comment has been edited. State in your auction terms that absolutely no use of the edit comment feature is allowed, and bids displaying the 'this comment has been edited' icon will not count, and the bidder will be disqualified.

That should cover it. Anyone who can't/won't abide by the instructions for the auction process can simply be blocked. Obvious intentional abuse/derailment can be reported.

EDIT: edited my comment so you can see the icon I'm referring to there to the left of my avatar.

^^^^^^ THIS

thanks! I already knew that XD ..

lets just hope people will just act like adults this time.

Edit
look! there's more than 5 minutes! 8 miutes! xDDD

Edit 2
hey I can Edit more!!

Does the limitless update mean that we can also upload our artwork at the best quality possible too?

Everything is still based on tables, though. :/

Hopefully the "new" UI isn't just a CSS style sheet over the existing HTML.

Good! Nice to see that'll be sorted.

I think we'd all still like to know why it took so long to develop. I think we'd also like to see where the extra $10,000 has went. http://donations.furaffinity.net/

A $10k tax bill was mentioned on reddit last year, so, ya know...

Who are the new mods?

Why do you forgo transparency by keeping their identity a secret?

next update looks promising

oh shit
this is a nice update
good job

Okay

Finally! It's almost like DA. Now I won't go through the trouble to hide the comments if I made a mistake.

Editing your comments is the most awesome update I ever seen here!!

Can you guys sell cookies also, it'd be awesome if we could buy fender cookies.

+1

Soon™

Nanas flavor please. I need my potassium.

[Potassium Intensifies]

[Cookies Intensify]

[They bang]

[Potassium Cookies Intensify]

Nice to finally see some changes around here. <3 Keep 'em coming!
^{edit: dat edit button, so nice.}

New note system is terrible for mobile devices.

Before the new note system I had no complaints about the messaging service at all for my phone. But that's just me.

Not just you. I could use it fine, though my phone hand a habit of deciding it suddenly no longer wanted to scroll, and I had to pull some trickery to fix that..
In general, FA was tolerable on my phone. Not astounding. Not great, hell, not even "good". Just functional enough for me to use.
The first thing I thought when I saw the new note system was "my god, this is gonna be unusable on my phone" =I

Yasssss please! Thank you for worry about mobile viewing!

By the way thank god for no more F5 journals now & multiple posts to edit a post or deleted posts solely for editing purposes. Thanks.

Bitchin

Fucking Bitchin'

pingas

Edit: oh me mother tilly, the edit
you can see if a comment was eddited at the tick at the left of the user icon. hoohoo

mah boi,

Is one of the problems involving Submissions? Been having a bit of trouble with that the past few times I've uploaded. Image takes forever to load, loads with a broken image, and only seems to be remedied when i remove the submission and resubmit.

Or is FA on Google Chrome no bueno?

I don't know if it was a one-off bug but when I logged in via HTTPS just now I was taken to the front page via an insecure connection.

And no more comment subjects, ah well not like anyone used them anyway.

Yeah, not really sure what the point of the comment subjects part was. I've been here for years and have yet to see anyone use it. XD

If I remember right (I wasn't around the internet so much years ago at the time) FA's design was pretty much originally a recreation of DeviantArt, and DA had comment subjects. Or, it could've just been added to be similar to LiveJournal's commenting system which also has a subject line.

NOTES
I like that I don't have to keep clicking in and out of notes anymore.
It's a faster, more efficient way for me to find the right note now. Love that.
I also like that the whole [ QUOTE] Nonsense has been dealt with. I
always thought that that was pretty annoying. Glad that's done with.

However, I don't like how the Actual note is so far too the right
in where it is positioned. That's it. That is the ONLY thing I don't like about it.

Editing Comments
I Like the precaution where the EDIT TIME LIMIT goes away as
soon as someone else comments on that post. That's pretty nice
precautionary technique there. The only thing now is that I'm
going to have to put a new rule on my Auctions: "Do not Edit Bids. No excuses. May end up being Blocked."

I feel the same with how far the note is to the right. Really threw me off and the only reason I noticed it was because the page looked different. :/

exactly this! i like having a preview in notes, i can see that being really helpful if i'm looking for a specific note, but i don't like the positioning at all.
and i agree with the comment editing too, though i think that something like 3 minutes would be better than the nine that it apparently is now (according to another comment). that's enough time to re-read an average post and notice any mistakes in time to fix them, i think.
actually, what could be really cool is if there were an option to disable the ability to edit comments on certain submissions (i.e. auctions), though i have no idea how feasible that would be.

Oh dear, comment editing. I can see the abuse now...

Better file storage is great news. Maybe now we can upload homemade games. Can you guys put up support for Unity Player so we can do that?

I'm a bit worried about the editing comments, but I REALLY love the new note stuff! It makes me feel more organized with things

hOLY SHIT I LOVE THE NEW NOTES VIEWER

*Yawn* Has there been an AUP update yet? No? Well then screw this, I'm going back to sleep.

The AUP was updated a few months back....

Looks the same to me. Still bans everything.

A good friend of mine got banned over a situation that shouldn't have happened. No wonder he's not keen about coming back.

Awesome updates

Hmm. FA's finally realized it was pre-historical in comparison to other furry communities.
>inb4 Shitstorm incoming

It's pre-historical compared to pretty much any image sharing / gallery site.

I thank the gods, someone agrees with me!

Yeah, it really is. FA's site design is stuck in 2002/2003. All the other major furry sites have modern site design and features, while FA has barely changed at all over the past 10 years.

Well, there's still VCL :D

Pretty much everything but sofurry, that website moves at a snails pace.

Augh I hate SF. I find it amusing I keep getting watchers there when I've effectively ditched it.

Finally, an Edit function! It only took 10 years!

Now implement a way to filter images by category and/or tags, and we'll be good.

That would be wonderful if people actually tagged.

Which is why I said categories as well.

Would love to completely filter out fursuits and cub crap.

Hmm, and maybe people could use that filter and stop bitching and complaining about having to look at it and the world can be a happier place?

OH LOOK, IT'S THAT ONE TIME I SUGGESTED A BLACKLIST! I wondered when that topic would re-surface again.

Exactly, filters would be awesome.

But nope, FA apparently thought that stupid crap like "hidden favorites" and "disable userpage" were far more useful.

I smell a D where that F should be...

^ So much this