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We've officially launched Folders today! We've also added in-submission gallery previews and greatly improved gallery management. If you have feedback, concerns or suggestions we've added a new Trouble Ticket Category for your feedback and suggestions.
Full changelogs are here:
https://changelogs.furaffinity.net/.....ept_13.2C_2015
Also, thanks to everyone who attended FA United! We're all tired from the con, but we're proud to announce we raised over $7,700 for charity!
Full changelogs are here:
https://changelogs.furaffinity.net/.....ept_13.2C_2015
Also, thanks to everyone who attended FA United! We're all tired from the con, but we're proud to announce we raised over $7,700 for charity!
Been testing it out, and it seems to work pretty well so far. I approve.
Not sure I'm a fan of how the main gallery still shows everything in one big mix, but that's a minor caveat anyway.
The world doesn't revolve around you. If you're so hell-bent on getting it that you'll damn anyone who attempts to offer a temporary solution to your entitlement problem, then fork over the cash for it to Dragoneer to get it implemented yourself instead of berating others for your own stupidity.
i'm just shocked you DON'T realize that
"SITE NEWS/POSTING RULES
1) Keep posts civil, constructive and polite
2) Keep discussion on topic to the post at hand.
3) Treat your fellow posters with respect."
Also, before you decide to White Knight, remember that your first comment to me leaves you very little room to talk, other than being civil.
So, why is it, that I ask for page navigation and more than one person feels the need to approach me and say, "just do this imperfect short cut" rather than let me have my request? Especially when I've thus had to repeat myself that there are other factors at play to my request.
(And some have even gone so far as to belittle my idea as dumb or a waste).
So why is it, beyond a single person offering the shortcut (an imperfect one I might add), does anybody feel the need to comment unless it was to agree or offer a real reason why we can't have this feature? And I'll remind you, YOU referred to it as a "waste of resources" and I made a valid counter argument. So spare me any accusations of being whiny or making a big deal out of something and either have the "discussion" you claim you're after, or just stop making me have to defend my desire for a simple feature that DA offers. And, no, I don't want to just go to DA, I'd like to have it here.
I'm not calling your need for a button whining, but exaggerating. Kinda like all this, here. What even is this.
And journal searches would be nice even though they tend to get deleted after a while.
For instance if you want to search for pieces with 'Pokemon' in their title, your search string might look like "@title Pokemon". There's more detail available if you click the 'help' button on the Search page.
Now to wait for FAExtender to be updated for the new gallery pages, (as usual, it broke "open all in tabs").
Let me know if you hear anything about it.
https://twitter.com/faextender/stat.....45369519259648
Open all in tabs: It opens every submission on the current gallery/submission message page. To avoid overloading FA it imposes a 2 second delay between each submission, (delay changeable in about:config on Firefox).
Download now: A one click save of the current submission to a set directory or artist subfolders in that directory.
https://twitter.com/faextender/stat.....45369519259648
https://twitter.com/faextender/stat.....45369519259648
Maybe we can make the usernames of people watching you a new color, and those you are following into another color? Just color code them.
Too many ideas.
It would be so useful to have a way to quickly tell which images were not assigned to any folders.
Also getting the folders in alphabetical order is a royal pain.
A lot of artists end up making crazy folders labyrinths and it's a pain to navigate if you wish to see everything.
At best, make the option to put one of the Folders as your "folder displayed by default", so you can showcase your gems.
But the ability to select a folder to make your primary showcase, I like that idea.
Was scared to start organizing, and as soon as I realized this I was just like yeeeEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
In any case, that's almost 1,5 submissions per day for about 10 years nonstop!
May I shake your hand?
People are more than welcome to use them, I just don't like what they have done to the submission pages
They all have a little "preview" of other images in whatever folder they're located in (including the default main gallery). Him (and myself I think) don't like the location, it's annoying and you can't do anything about it.
(sorry if this is long winded, kind of brainstorming)
Though I guess for people who tend to make only 5-10 page comics, even that 50 limit can be reached quickly, if they want each comic in it's own folder.
I was probably also overthinking how people would use it anyway
Here look at what i mean, top image is as is, bottom is with the code
http://i.imgur.com/z2TBeZ3.png
Its a neat idea, but I think should be located by the tags in small icon style thumbs or something. Under there looks sore...
#page-submission .actions div{ display: none; }
DONE. Its gone
Yak said something about a toggle function in the works though, so hopefully that'll happen.
I think the preview is a neat idea, but I don't like it. I'm not saying to remove it, just to give an option to make it less obtrusive. I'm not cursing out the admins or saying FA is shit or wanting it to fail. People have legitimate concerns and it hurts the whole community when people just try to blindly support everything. You can be supportive and still disagree.
And yes you are correct in all your statements, but what if someone truly does think what FA does is good, and for good reasons? You cant say they are "blindly" following just because they dont agree with your own views ya know?
Also, I'm hardly adding any drama or stirring things up, rest assured. I'm not the one who made snarky comments (like were said by the user) about everyone bitching and etc. I'm here to be constructive because I like this site, even if I don't personally like the administration or many of its changes. And by talking about these problems and realizing for some people it is an issue, that's how you make the site work best for a middle ground and appeal to a wide audience.
And yes, those people do cause a bit of a problem, but let them be, because that is such a small percent of the user base, that the rest of us with valid points and opinions far outshine and make a louder sound then those that just want to kiss the ass of the admins. I agree with you, there are things that they could fix to make it stream line and clean, and look nice, run smoother and such. But for me, its frustrating to see people instantly complain about things as soon as a new fix or a much needed and long wanted addition comes out. Its like...be happy, just for a second, my goodness lol.
I think the submission thing under the picture you are looking at is strange, and out of place and agree with you on that. I think there could be a much better way then to have it be such a HUGE bar RIGHT under the image, or like you stated, to have it shrink or to opt out of it, if a user prefers.
And like the others said if you dont like the folders, dont use them it doesnt really make a lick of diff other then making pictures easier to find instead of going through thousands of submissions looking for that 1 picture.
I know I don't have to use the folders if I don't need to
Folders are nice yes but the thumbnails on the bottom of the submissions is just distracting
But that image someone posted bellow in the old version of the site looks pretty awful and I understand why people may not like it . ~.
And a good update? I'm lost for words, really well done.
JK, glad to see you guys moving along ~
ヽ( ｡ ヮﾟ)ノ
also dildos
no need to get condescending lmao. pardon me for not liking a feature you do :P you replying to everyone else who said they werent fond of it too, or?
And Galley? Does that mean we get complimentary grog and rum since FA has apparently become a ship (this oddly makes abandoning it all the more poetic next time something dumb happens thank rankles everyone's feathers)? Pray that the rum is never gone...
This isn't how we'd like to see this in the end, but there are some prerequisites that need to be met before we can change this hierarchy into the one where there is only one "all content" metafolder, "main gallery", "featured" and "scraps" default folders, and user created folders behaving as actual folders, e.g submissions assigned into them will not be shown in any of the three "default folders" above.
If I'm reading your comment wrong, however, and you do intend to keep some sort of "all submissions" folder in the end, then carry on and I apologize.
Something where you see all of the user's uploads in. Every other folder, be in the default "gallery", "scraps" and "featured" or the custom created ones, will show what the user decided they should be showing.
Any plans to up the maximum folder amount allowed?
Those using sfw and the "older / newer" buttons would get a screen saying they couldn't view an image, but no arrows to bypass it, they had to go back to the gallery / scraps to find their place. Leaving the buttons (or an automatic skip to the next sfw submission) might be handy in that case.
Thank you for all your work and listening to feedback!
Liking the changes that are happening though. :3
Say an artist has a comic series I'm really interested in, or maybe not so much; being able to follow it, or remove it from me getting updated would be nice.
Same goes for da pronz, plenty of fantastic artists I'd love to watch, but I don't because of the influx of porn in my notifications . ~.
A much larger interim bolt-on now than 9 years ago. Good work nonetheless. :)
(Somewhere in n-space there's still that discussion from back then about treating folders as an extension to the tag schema, albeit that was talking about hierarchical tags somewhat closer to what e621 eventually implemented...)
Taking care of them is my priority in the immediate future.
PS
Glad to see you're still around, old man :)
Wow, who'd have guessed that a decade-old system might be horribly out of date?
Instead of throwing filler over the old cracks, why not get some actual work done and get something new coded?
Don't get me wrong, folders are nice - but for Christ's sake, this is something that could have been implemented years ago. Miyevskr said it best - this is nothing better than an interim bolt-on. Something that could have been resolved a long time ago, especially if you'd stop relying on such dated foundations for the site and actually do some work. I could have done this myself within two days, the fact that it's taken you this long is pretty inexcusable - and don't throw the 'well, it got done eventually' stick at me. Doing the work eventually doesn't excuse your deficiency.
Mhmmm... I'd presumed as much about having to work around the existing schema - and with a large amount of data behind that now - although still hopefully "interim" en-route to a longer-term set up.
It's no fun juggling that much at once and hopefully nothing overly serious has cropped up in the last few weeks to cause too many sleepless nights. (As if you ever got that much sleep, anyhow. ;)
Thanks & Keep on having fun, ya!
Seriously. Go bother Fender instead. Yak is busy making stuff better for you, whether you're grateful or not.
It's a first, I know, but saying HEY, LOOK! LOOK! I ACTUALLY DID SOMETHING! doesn't excuse the majority remainder of his tenure at FA being spent sat on his arse doing fuck-all. You'd have thought that the technical head for the site would have, in a full decade, managed to at least fulfil some of the outstanding obligations placed upon him.
All the gallery folder stuff IS new code.
I never said it wasn't. You may want to develop some skills in reading comprehension - what I said was that bolting new code onto a shitty foundation doesn't solve the underlying issue of your foundation being shit.
Legacy codebases are a harsh reality of life.
No, they really aren't. In a full decade you would have expected some headway to have been made on bringing FA's architecture up to more modern standards. Newsflash: Project Phoenix and Ferrox are dead in the water. As above, the staff coders would prefer to patch over the glaring issues on the site rather than construct a more stable foundation.
If you want to suggest that we turn off FA, delete everything and start afresh, you go and write a journal about it and see how much support you get.
This is where you lost any and all credibility. If you think that re-developing FA involves or requires entirely purging the database, you're displaying a level of ignorance I really am astonished to see. But, here's a tip: databases can be transferred.
It's funnier that you don't even know the right terms when correcting someone.
You're cute when you're stupid c:
So instead of reading only what you wanted to out of the post and disregarding everything else so you can gripe why don't you go make a site as expansive as FA, or DA or others, and working with a limited staff and demanding clientele keep every aspect of the site up to date with each and every architectural change that may come up in a year. While you're at it do that every year even if it requires a full rewrite of the everything you've done on the site, and see how long you stay "up to date" before having to do it again. See how long you last like that... oh mind you, you have to add new features or this or that to appease the clientele that keeps your site and server running while you're at it. Plus dealing with hardware issues, hosting issues, and the chaos that is life in general.
If that sounds easy and doable to you then go for it. See you later and best of luck. If not how about you cut the people who are trying to do such things a break and let them do their work.
My two cents.
Excuses are cute, and all, but almost a full decade has turned, and FA is still running the same code it has been since it was created. Don't try to pass the site's age as a matter of 'not having the time or staff' - like I said, half of the problem is Dragoneer's reluctance/abject refusal to take on help. The other half is Yak's reluctance to let people see exactly how much of a fuck-up his work on the site is.
Remember how Project Phoenix fell apart so rapidly under Zaush's command? Remember how the team working on that project had qualifications in the aviation industry? No, of course not, furs don't tend to pay attention to that. All you lot see is Yak, and you fall for the sappy doe eyes at every chance when he says how hard it is for him to work on his own. Point is, things wouldn't be so difficult if he'd actually take on competent help, so don't you dare for a minute excuse FA's deficiencies on a lack of staff.
The resources are there. Nobody's harnessing it. That's why people get discouraged with FA and go create sites like Inkbunny and Weasyl.
This is of course non-sense, because if it were, we would still have all the exploits to read other people's notes, the SQL injection exploit in the commissions tab, the notification issue would have ground the site to a halt and yet... None of that is the case, there fore, it is not the same code, just a derivative.
You seem to make assumptions that because you don't see significant functional changes, that it is the same code, but, we have seen numerous non-functional changes to meet the changing requirements and discovered defects.
> Remember how the team working on that project had qualifications in the aviation industry?
I remember asking for CVs/resumes of these qualified people that furs kept advocating and I never received any. People bad mouthed Zaush, saying he was worse than others, but then people like you constantly failed to provide me better information, CVs, resumes etc. on these other people to really judge them to be 'better'.
> Point is, things wouldn't be so difficult if he'd actually take on competent help, so don't you dare for a minute excuse FA's deficiencies on a lack of staff.
Because, you know, competent help is available in massive droves for free, except it isn't. I should know, I spear headed numerous open source projects that were running off communities. Most of the time, you get people who don't even know what 'waterfall' is and can't even tell you what a singleton is when it comes to programming. Never mind about developing scalable solutions and unfortunately, my real life work was too demanding to even take the time to bring such people up to speed.
Then, when you do finally get someone competent, they're busy, because their skills are of real world value, they're doing over time and don't really have much time to spend on hobby projects.
> That's why people get discouraged with FA and go create sites like Inkbunny and Weasyl.
Neither IB or Weasyl are scalable like FA right now. But since you'd never take my word for it, nor any work I've made, I'll tell you how to verify it yourself.
You spin up a few SOASTA cloud test instances (make sure they're spread across numerous providers to avoid triggering Cloudflare's protections, also if Cloudflare's protections are triggered, script up a Selenium driven browser to drive through the pages and handle any captchas through Death By Captcha), record a few paths on creating users, logging in, viewing content off the main page, posting a journal, uploading art. Do a soak test, load up 10,000 virtual users (ramping up of course) executing these clips at random. You'll find they go down a lot sooner than 10,000.
Great resources you got there, can't even handle FA's low load.
Now, I'm not suggesting they can't handle it in future, but clearly if they were ready as you imply; this wouldn't be an issue. This says a lot regarding expertise.
I've given you all the power to verify this yourself now anexplosivedevice, I'm sure this will be nothing for someone who has such great expertise and knowledge on large sites such as you.
Am I to assume that Zaush ever provided any of that information either?
Because, you know, competent help is available in massive droves for free, except it isn't. I should know, I spear headed numerous open source projects that were running off communities. Most of the time, you get people who don't even know what 'waterfall' is and can't even tell you what a singleton is when it comes to programming. Never mind about developing scalable solutions and unfortunately, my real life work was too demanding to even take the time to bring such people up to speed.
Then, when you do finally get someone competent, they're busy, because their skills are of real world value, they're doing over time and don't really have much time to spend on hobby projects.
Because, of course, your own personal experiences are a cross-section of the issue as a whole. You're still failing to remember how many of these people did show up with previous work histories, and were abjectly turned away or ignored by Yak and Dragoneer. The fur fandom is fucking huge, you're honestly telling me that in the entire community there are no more than a handful of members who have both the talent and the drive to aid the site?
Or is the problem more that Dragoneer's more willing to pull his friends in on the project rather than invite fresh faces in?
Neither IB or Weasyl are scalable like FA right now.
Cite your sauce, homeboy. What you've said regarding load testing is true; any idiot could find that information out from Wikipedia. What I want to know is exactly how you've arrived at the conclusion that only FA, out of the entire fur fandom, has the resources to host the fandom. Aside from that, I'm curious to know exactly how that information was relevant in the first place - you're assuming an 'Armageddon' scenario, whereby all users immediately migrate from Site A to Site B, as opposed to the scenario I was suggested whereby users get sick of FA's shit, and slowly bleed FA dry over time.
For somebody who's supposedly intelligent, you sure seem to devote an awful lot of that brainpower towards conjecture and assumptions. It's rather cute.
Not that I saw, hence can't make a reasonable comparison or understand the situation deeper. So, I don't see how other furs can reasonably do it. But some how, they all have all the information and know everything, until you ask for something that is reasonable to base such an understanding off.
> Cite your sauce
The Web Performance Analysis Dashboard in SOASTA Cloud Test. The same dashboard you should be looking at right now, because you know deep down that you can't trust any data I provide, nor my conclusions.
> What I want to know is exactly how you've arrived at the conclusion that only FA, out of the entire fur fandom, has the resources to host the fandom.
You're making assumptions here. I for one don't think FA can even host the entire fandom in it's current setup. I don't believe the entire fandom is even on these art sites. You're trying to put conclusions I've reached that I didn't, it's not very polite.
> you're assuming an 'Armageddon' scenario
No, you're the one assuming here, I'm not doing some 'Armageddon scenario', I'm looking for truths in claimed capabilities people have made.
> all users immediately migrate from Site A to Site B
Utter non-sense, my scenario is just that their loads increased to FA's low loads. It doesn't make believe the idea that FA users immediately migrate, nor does it assume that these sites don't end up with these loads on their own without FA and so on. There have been plenty of interesting claims by people, but in my experience, they don't all seem to hold out to reality. Which is interesting when people do this, since a lot of the arguments tend to be about the historical track record, but never want to actually want to test out if their claims are really true.
On that note, since you've presented yourself as someone who is knowledgeable on such things, it should be no problem for you to do what I mentioned on the previous post to verify this yourself. Of course, in reality, I don't expect you will, because I don't really believe you know what you are talking about. But if you did, I genuinely think you would come to the same conclusions based on the results.
> For somebody who's supposedly intelligent
I don't consider myself intelligent, more knowledgeable in certain fields than the average person? Sure. More knowledgeable than some of my peers? No.
> you sure seem to devote an awful lot of that brainpower towards conjecture and assumptions.
Brain power? Not so much. Using time while travelling from/to clients, sure.
But, let me tell you about some assumptions I've made, and I have tested you on these in small ways one way or another considering you didn't leap on to certain things I was intentionally putting into the conversation to see if you'd catch it out.
I genuinely don't believe you even know the difference between non-functional or functional requirements, I don't think you know the difference between performace/soak/load/stress testing, I don't think you've even developed scalable cluster systems, I don't think you've even worked with data centres, I don't think you've done any development in a decent professional team and I don't think you even know what a database schema is really, never mind actually making one.
And there's your problem. For all of your hailing Zaush as some sort of paragon, he's apparently no better than any of the other people you've slated - the difference stands merely in how his towering ego completely tore apart a team that showed a lot of promise.
I for one don't think FA can even host the entire fandom in it's current setup.
Then why build an argument pointing to that conclusion? You're essentially bitching about which website is more capable of performing under load, which was never my point to begin with. The point was that FA's terrible infrastructure and awful historical fuck-ups are what's driving furs to start up their own competition - you started throwing shit around about how much more capable FA is of hosting larger communities, which was never the point.
a lot of the arguments tend to be about the historical track record, but never want to actually want to test out if their claims are really true
Bitch, I've been around FA quite a bit longer than you think. I've seen this shit first hand. I know exactly how fucking worthless the main staff here are, because I've experienced their stupidity for the better part of nine years. The toxic attitude the administrative staff have is alone enough to drive people away from FA.
I don't think
Finally, something you and I are in agreement upon. Why don't you leave the thinking to the adults and carry on thinking that knowing basic web dev terminology makes you smart, hm? There's a good lad.
Showed a lot of promise, so you actually have some comparable data or not? Because outside of the fact neither delivered results, regardless of circumstance, I don't have much else to go on and neither do you.
> Then why build an argument pointing to that conclusion?
You would probably make that argument because you are making false conclusions and false assumptions of the person you are talking to. It's certainly not an argument I am making, but just because I give you a bit more insight into what I think doesn't mean it's even part of an argument.
> You're essentially bitching about which website is more capable of performing under load, which was never my point to begin with. The point was that FA's terrible infrastructure and awful historical fuck-ups are what's driving furs to start up their own competition - you started throwing shit around about how much more capable FA is of hosting larger communities, which was never the point.
And my point was to show that the claims regarding the over abundance of skilled people and capabilities and so on were not particularly true. If these people were as capable, we would have seen a better infrastructure to deal with the non-functional issues.
> you started throwing shit around about how much more capable FA is of hosting larger communities, which was never the point.
No, you're misunderstanding, I was talking about the non-functional requirements in running a site like FA which this team has been able to meet, of which, apparently the better qualified others have failed to accomplish, despite apparently having this 'superior architecture'.
> Bitch
Name calling really helps make your points. Unfortunately, this sort of intellectual wit you're using is beyond me.
> I've been around FA quite a bit longer than you think.
Here you go again. I never assumed or thought anything about how long you've been on FA and I don't particularly believe in judging people based of how long they've been anywhere, nor do I even care. Again, you are trying to put words in my mouth. This sort of manipulative argument style you're using may work with others, but it won't with me.
> I know exactly how fucking worthless the main staff here are
I know exactly how much real evidence you based on that on as well, not taking circumstances into account, nor taking their actual real world experiences, skill sets, day jobs and references into account. I wouldn't be so bold with such a massive hole in knowledge to make these claims about individuals.
> because I've experienced their stupidity for the better part of nine years
My oldest account on FA states: Registered since: May 31st, 2006 05:19, this is over nine years, big whoop. For the record, none of my FA accounts have ever been banned either and I have commissioned plenty of art over the years across said accounts.
> The toxic attitude the administrative staff have is alone enough to drive people away from FA.
So you say, but outside of a few individuals which left, that I'd rather not even see (and I would think most people wouldn't want to associate with either), I haven't seen anyone else that genuinely left the site.
But you know, you could always prove me wrong and show me all these 'left' accounts of outstanding netizens, that would have to be notable, such as at least 1% of FA's user base in quantity.
> carry on thinking that knowing basic web dev terminology makes you smart
Actually, a lot of what I said is very universal terminology, not specific to 'web dev'. Your lack of knowledge in it is telling how little you genuinely have in both learning (doesn't matter if it's self learned) and what your real experience is. Some of the things I have touched on are quite specific and to the point.
> makes you smart
I've already debunked this, I'm not wasting much brain power on this, there is no quick-wit behind it. Having the actual knowledge in this field means I don't have to even be 'intelligent' or 'smart' to debunk your non-sense attempts at trying to portray yourself as credible.
> There's a good lad.
I get the impression you're getting quite emotional when you're resorting to such spurious comments.
Anyway, it's obvious to everyone now that you aren't following through with verifying the details yourself and even your 'knowledge' and 'intelligence' of these matters doesn't seem to be making much of a point. It's clear based of all the points you failed to reply to and decided to only pick and choose a few things to respond to, that you don't have a good point to make on any of those.
The act of 'transferring' a database, is just the act of moving it. It doesn't make it usable under a new rearchitected design, which is what is being discussed here.
In order for it to be usable under a different design, you need to migrate the schema to the newly designed schema.
Of course, you don't have to trust me on this. You could ask Google, where the top hits for "Transferring database" talk about merely copying/moving a database. Meanwhile, "schema migration" is pretty much about what I mentioned.
I'm doing this more for the benefit of others on FA to understand you're not insightful than trying to inform you. Feel free to continue showing how ignorant you are though!
Likewise, sweetcheeks! <3
I also like the idea of the collapsible thumbnails, good work :]
Thanks guys!
I like how the folders are right now. I can't stand it when people in DA some things into folders - there needs to be the main gallery where everything is at once, but also scraps for things you don't want to feature on your frontpage. I also like how these new folders can display content from both main and scraps and that submissions can be in multiple folders.
In short: Please don't change how they work (at users end at least), they're really good now, better than any other site I use have done.
[Main Gallery]: Some submissions (Group A)
[Featured]: Some submissions (Group B)
[Scraps]: Some submissions (Group C)
[Metafolder "All"]: Everything (A + B + C)
If so, what if I want to browser all submissions that are not scraps?
If [Featured] is a separate category from [Main Gallery], won't [Main Gallery] become just another folder for scraps you don't want to showcase?
I believe [Main Gallery] could group A+B and [Featured] could be a simple filter, like the current folders in FA, using images from the [Main Gallery] - or [Metafolder "All"].
Or maybe drop the [Featured] concept altogether and just let people pick one of the filters as their default gallery display - not even file restructuring would be necessary. Maybe.
And that would be useful if a person has multiple projects - feature your current one, switch when you complete it and start another - or when you come out of hiatus. Display what's more interesting to you right now.
That's like the best thing that has happened on FA this year x3
It would be really cool if when putting submissions into folders they "disappear" or show that they've been placed into a folder so things don't get to confusing.
It's hard to keep track of what I put where. Sure, we can click on the description to see where it was placed, but that makes things even more tedious, and possibly more confusing than they should be.
Folder-only is a royal PITA for some viewers, especially when submissions can be in multiple folders[1]. I would be fine with the "featured" gallery being the one that gets things on the user page and even being a default for when you go to the galleries.
[1] e.g. OK, there's a "fan-art" folder and a "MLP" folder, so the latter must be a subset of the former, right? Or are there all kinds of ponysonas in there that aren't being counted as fan-art?
And it's not so much figuring out, it's the need to dig through the same things multiple times because folder A has 90% of the content of folders B, C and D while folder E has about half of those pics plus some of its own. Meanwhile, folder F looks like it should have new stuff but is actually just a subset of A and so on..
[1] The two ways of doing that are a pure "view all" and a set of folders that contain everything with no overlap between them, (e.g. a main gallery and a scraps gallery).
(e: typo)
A couple of suggestions.
1. At the bottom of each submission, instead of showing the main gallery, should show the content of the folder it's in. That would ease a lot and make way more comfortable browsing comics, for artists who usually work with them.
2. An option to hide folders from guests or to mark them mature would be interesting. If you go in incognito mode to some galleries, you could find empty folders if all what they have is porn.
3. For artists with more than 400 pictures, the "64 submissions" at time may be too little. I would suggest the option to display up to 500 pictures in the "Manage submissions" page. It would make the job a lot easier to people with a huge (over 2000) amount of submissions.
Thats it, I suppose.
Although I'd personally rather not have the thumbnail preview at all (it's uglyyy!)
It makes also easier to see other art from that artist that you could like.
The thumbnails could be nice if they were placed better and made not so ugly - they distract the main submission.
Because they're at the bottom (so technically you see them after you saw the submission) and their size is small.
On top of that I'd make it an option for the artist to decide if they want to include the thumbs there, and maybe even add more detailed options to choose which other pics are related and will show.
[ ADMINS: Read this, here's an idea to improve the thumbnails on submission page! ]
youre not special
im sorry
mom lied
I ask because I don't like that the commissions are still together in a "Main gallery" and you can separate them into categories as well.
I would much prefer that when you put an item into a folder, that it came out of the main gallery and into a place of it's own.
if you know what I mean?
I guess an alternative could be to move everything to scraps and then move the real scraps to a special user-created scraps folder.
You've gotta admit that *I* is a lot easier than [i]I[/i ] and (test)[http://www.google.com] is WAY easier than [url=http://www.google.com]test[/url ]
Functionally there is no difference, but it would be easier to tell when a block of text is RP or just a normal comment because instead of there just being a telltale at the beginning and ending of the block, now the entire block is italicized.
Keep your entitled formatting bullshit out of the realm of REQUIREMENT. I don't want that shit taking over my entire internet life just because someone's totally fucking lazy or has an overly strong attachment to MSWord or Reddit or something!
Anyway, that's not specifically directed at you, more at Skype. They added *BOLD* and every one of us hates it. They have two ways to disable it and both are annoying and non permanent. One is to submit a settings string every time you open the program. The other is to add ** at the start of every line.
Meanwhile, BBCode is a long-standing standard that functions just fine on multiple levels.
And whoa, calm down, no need to rant and accuse.
Oh, and the arrows used to move folders up and down inside a folder group are broken. They don't move the folder up or down by 1, it's a lot less predictable than that.
I just think the submission viewing page shouldn't have previews of of other submissions on the page underneath, and the submit new art and change info pages should be put back (the folder options can be down lower on the page instead of squishing everything out horizontally).
The folders are great, but other things bother me... Can you fix them please?
All in all, you are doing a good job maintaining FA for us. Thank you.
Sorting the submissions folder into artists.
http://www.furaffinity.net/gallery/sin./2/
simply just type in the number where the 2 is of the page you want to go to as a sort of bypass until they add page counters.
I know for sure they had page counters on notes forever ago, I can't remember if they still do
oops didn't see rick's post -- sorry about that
I would like to see a change with the appearance of journals. I am not a fan of how the text stretches the length the of the page.
There is also a separate page for managing the folders themselves.
You can also edit individual submission's information and assign it into the existing folders from there, but that requires you to create some folders on the folders management page beforehand.
Also, I haven't checked, but is there or will there be a FAQ on how to use the new folder system? Might be handy for people to look to fully understand how to use the new system.
And seriously guys, e got folders now and there are people now searching for thing to complain like design? Seriously...?
But i kinda miss the look profiles had in the previous beta layout. It looked a lot better, more compact and stuff. Any chance that's coming back?
I'll get used to the loss of the back and next buttons on the submissions (they're replaced with preview pics now).
Doing it different would be a pain for everyone who just wants to check out everything a certain artist has drawn...
In the log it says as a bugfix: "fixed the submission view minigallery ignoring maturity filter"
Is there a way to maybe make certain folders not send out submission notifications unless someone manually subscribes to that folder? Or heck, just folder subscriptions in general? I'd like to merge my regular account with my gore account, but only if my viewers can just not subscribe to the gore folder unless they want to see it.
Now for all the other things, like transparency issues and such. Your already behind quite a few years. Gonna need to slap it into overdrive just to catch up.
In short, I'm unsure of the bar under the submission itself, but the folder update makes me a very happy lady. ^^ Thank you FA staff for doing this, it makes things so much nicer.
Hate it.
Make an option for us to disable this, just as there is an option for full size image view by default.
Now that we have folders, can we please have Groups now? Real groups? Pleeease? Thanks!! :)
Good effort on FA's part to finally start to try reach the modern day.
However, suggestions:
* When adding submissions to a folder, it would be nice to see what images are already inside that folder. This could be achieved by pre-checking the checkbox of a given submission after selecting the target folder to add submissions to.
* It should be as easy to remove submissions from a folder as to add them. Currently, i don't see any way to easily remove multiple submissions from a folder (other than deleting the entire folder).
I would like to see if I miss putting something into a folder instead of having to guess. Maybe just a caption of what folder it's in already underneath the submission when in the sorting page?
I'll work on implementing that tomorrow.
Thanks :)
It might be a better choice to just add the option of removing a submission from a folder directly into the folder's view instead.
As far as I know, thumbnails work everywhere except the front page. I follow a few people that have thumbnails in their gallery as warning to the type of art the photo is.
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A.) Please return the Previous and Next buttons.
B.) Please make a option in the profile management area or wherever it best fits to opt out of that appearing when you view the submissions of others. The placement of the preview 'box' and 'this thing is featured in this folder' box are just annoyingly placed. In fact this improvement was likely unnecessary in the first place.
C.) Noticed there is a link in the In-Submission Preview 'box' that links to main gallery. How about putting that somewhere separate from that box? Because 'that' and the folders are just about the only good thing that's come of this. Maybe stick a option to jump to main gallery while in a submission by having that link somewhere not attached to the In Submission Preview box.
D.) IF you plan to make the In-Submission Preview thing to be a permanent non-toggle-able option then for Christs sake don't shrink images that are above it. I noticed my images have all become notably smaller now that you've done this update.
E.) Since there is now a Galley on FA I'd like my complimentary Rum now.
My FA -> Page Management -> Gallery Folders (Or Submissions to create them while sorting them)
Username drop down at the top of the screen -> profile info -> Page management on the left side of the window -> Manage gallery folders.
Should be pretty much the same in classic.
I will say, it's somewhat clunky, and some things weren't thought all the way through, but it does seem like a significant and useful change that wasn't just cobbled together quickly.
Here's some things I'd like to see changed:
-Include an option to hide images that have already been sorted into a folder other than Main/Scraps. It'd help with keeping the...organization...organized.
-More in general, add the next and previous page buttons to the top of the page. Tired of always having to scroll to the bottom of the page to move on. In addition, having a drop box to select a page would also be nice.
-Like people have been saying, collapsible area for the main gallery thumbnails beneath submissions. It's pretty distracting.
I'm very OCD when it comes to organizing my work, so this is fantastic!
Cheers guys! 8D
Being able to rename "Main Gallery" would be nice though. Still have it do the same function (only all submissions) but renaming it would be cool.
And another good reason for having a folder system in the way that i just described, is the ability to put away certain fetish-related things in specific folders and not have them visible in the main gallery. It will be useful both for those who want to see that stuff and those who absolutely do not want to. It would be a win-win situation for all.
And may I join the next one? Pwease? QuQ
By the way, no words on the forums now officially seceding? You can't hide it forever, you know; there is limit to playing ostrich :P
I just saw a flying pig. *^^*
-They now have a trouble ticket category for feedback.
-There's no point in leaving things out of the main gallery once sorted because:
1. It's the main gallery
2. It defeats the purpose of having the ability to put the same submission into more than one folder
And then someone will come and say "You still haven't fixed X". Like, damn.
This is the only reason I enjoy using DA due to their perfect folder system.
but...
THANK YOU :D
also to people complaining or going "ugh FINAALLLYYYY": at least they fuckin did it so you can shut the fuck up about folders
/lmfao
...do you think we can have folders in Favorites too? owo''
I myself need Fave Folders because I hate scrolling through 30 pages to find what I wanted to fap to only to discover I'm no longer in the mood... Not that the folders are just for that. But let's be honest: it will be a common use in this fandom.
Nice update! Although I dunno how to make them, is it cuz I'm in beta-mode?
YOU NEED BACK AND NEXT BUTTONS , ON TOP OF THE PAGE AS WELL AS THE BOTTOM
seriously
The forum staff left because they did not want to sign an NDA sent to them by Dragoneer. There's a lot more to it, it can be found on the forums or Flayrah. They tried to come to an agreement with dragoneer, but it seems he didn't even want to compromise with staff, so they left. Supposedly Neer didn't even want forums anymore.
The forums were hosted by a third party furry, who owns the license and server. It was only a matter of finding a new domain.
I think this was for the best for FA.
You were probably looking at the wrong threads, and remember, this was when the forums were unmoderated and during a transitionary phase.
I could also say leadership change would be best for FA, but that's been said to death.
Who do you think you are? You're not Steve Jobs, you can't tell people they're holding it wrong.
> and during a transitionary phase.
Joking aside, I've actually come to the conclusion based off "the right threads" (such as this new thread, where see moderators in action) that the community is quite toxic.
Oh, don't get me wrong. I fully saw the humour used in posts, but the toxicity seemed fairly clear to me as well. It's not just humour in use there.
> you have to have a thick skin
I do have thick skin, I have to deal with a lot of uncomfortable situations and work in my real life. I'm not offended, I'm not upset by the posts, but, the toxic nature is not appealing to be around and I think having a place for toxic people of FA to go to instead of being on FA is a good thing. The fact it's now separated means it can foster without FA's (sometimes overbearing administration) to stifle it, attracting those sort of people and hopefully keeping them there.
> It's a forum not for everybody.
Oh, I wasn't trying to say forums are meant to be for everyone either. But, generally speaking, the expectation is that forums are usually slanted against toxicity, not towards it. This is sort of community is unattractive for the usual audience you'd normally want for obvious reasons.
Doesn't seem you caught something I mentioned numerous times in a few posts too.
> It's seems you get pretty upset easily over small things.
Shitty looking site, shitty community are small things - I now understand your perspective in this. I am now enlightened as to why you don't see it now.
> I'm surprised from someone who made an account from 2013 would considering folders being here normal when it's been on other galleries for years.
My oldest account on FA states: Registered since: May 31st, 2006 05:19. I renamed since.
Further details below:
> Oh i've have caught on and from this you sound like a broken record. Considering i've used the folders here
I don't think you have really caught on, considering I haven't even mentioned anything about it.
> and so far it's not exactly what i would call actual folders.
And I didn't even call it anything, not even folders.
> From a site that is supposed to improve and yet it took years to implement that's not exactly a good sign.
And I didn't say it was supposed to improve, nor did I say it took a short time or many years, nor did I talk about signs of FA on this journal.
> Oh and i have caught on from your posts and you need to really calm down.
I have no idea what you're talking about? I'm just eating time as I travel, as mentioned in numerous posts. If I wasn't travelling much, I wouldn't be participating here.
> Oh and where your oldest account considering it seem you moved accounts
My oldest account is sitting quietly, deactivated. Whether you believe me or not doesn't really matter at this point.
> and yet i've been here since December 2005.
In my circumstance noting the date I started here, was to correct some conclusion you had arrived to. However, in your case, I guess it was to somehow 'one up' me or something? To show that you had a few months ahead of and some how that made a big difference? ...I guess you win? Those few months clearly gave you deeper insight into the Furafinatrix, RTDragoNeo.
FOLDERS!?
AAAAAAAH!!!!
I can no longer click the "next page" in my own gallery - so yay broken buttons.
(works when I checked out other's)
Not bad! I agree with some posts on the option to turn the extra gallery view on / off
Also guys we need a
Mass delete submission (not one by one)
Also a possible "delete submission" on each submission
I gotta say good jorb
Because I have gone through
Manage submissions
And checked off the ones I wanted to delete
And it refreshes
And I'll have like one thing out of the 5 I picked deleted
Unless it's a new thing?
It's planned for, but it's not going to happen very soon.
Also, fender, I drank all the rum so the galley is empty nao.... sory... ;o;
Will you implement this at some point?
Next task along these lines is the ability to browse submissions with username constraints, and browse within your own favorites. This might take three to four years, but its worth the wait. I know this is asking that this site be more like DA, but its only in terms of functionality, all for the sake of helping others look up multiple items in as few clicks as possible, while at he same time narrowing the scope of results to more exactly what the user is looking for.
The one thing i wish that would have been done by now is making it capable to delete multiple images from my gallery at once and move multiple images to scraps at once. I'd have preferred that update before folders any day :[
idk i'm a person who enjoys clean simplistic settings for websites, it's bad enough we got 8 ads a page now, the panel of thumbnails just made it that worse ;;
I think delete button should require a confirmation though, right now it just deletes with one click.
only other thing that's ever really bothered me was when people delete submissions and it just shows up as a big x in my favs ya know? they may have changed it since then i'll have to look
Just kidding JUST KIDDING, that was just a joke ;A;. I miss those people, to bad they deleted their accounts, they made fa fun, gave me a lot of laughs every time they complained O3O.
Nice to see this implemented keep up the progress ^.^.
I love organization, hnnnngh~
Aside from that, it's about time that gallery folders were added. I'm not personally a fan of them, but - I understand others are. I'm sure it'll help a lot of people out, but I'm personally not a fan of the recent additions. That said, your site, you can run it as you wish. I'll just hang back and relax.
that would be kool~
One small suggestion...can we have the Older and Newer buttons back? They seem to have disappeared when you added that other bit underneath (which I think is kinda cool btw).
i love my folders
Edit, and dont talk about the chrome add on filter, it doesn't filter tags and often ends up hiding things I dont want hidden
I'd just like to have my main gallery not look like a total mess, while still having my artwork easy to access.
(Also, the option to see what's in what folder without having to go look in the folder itself would be nice.)
If you guys can fix these issues then you can have my semen.
Kappa.
a) removing the grey box around them
b) Putting the thumbnails/folder field in the same box as the submission information and just remove the rating image and replacing it with just text. I mean its really not necessary that's an image. That field could be put to better use.
EDIT: I should also state I am grateful for everything though. You did well
For THAT.
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/17679058/ just use this. theres too much explaining for me right now because its 9 am and i havent been able tosleep.
I get that it's to prevent accidental deletions but you go through so many steps before hand I feel like doing it accidentally isn't much of a problem
> Settings > Control panel > Manage submissions > Takes everything > Delete
Having a password as a security measure is the least they could do. After all, one isnt going to upload a wrong picture all the time. The only thing where it *could* bother me a bit is with "Streaming now" pictures.... and even with that isnt a big issue.
that's just not an issue
And if I'm looking at a SFW submission, a thumbnail for a NSFW submission can show up right there! That's not really good if someone is looking over my shoulder, or I want to show a submission to someone in person. It was nice the way it was before because I wouldn't have to see NSFW thumbnails if I wasn't on the main gallery page. It'd be really inconvenient to have to switch off NSFW every time I decide to show someone a page, or if someone might glance over my shoulder at my computer.
Example:
///////////////////
///////////////////
///preview icon///
///////////////////
///////////////////
Music; Art <These should link to the folders associated with the account
Title of submission
The kitchen on my ship is usually just so untidy, so this is a godsend! I'm sure plenty other fellow sailors out there can agree!
Please tell me I'm not the only one to spot this? XD
and what the hell did you do to the previous/next buttons? I don't want to see thumbnails under a picture, it slows down the page load time.
I know it's like DA, but honestly it'd make browsing so much easier.
Edit: Apparently they do, but they look the same if they are functional or not.
Next update: New emoticons.
But srly. Without this 'feature' the folders are still not very useful. It's just like a Tag-System in the regular Gallery.
I found out I can add stuff from the scraps to the folders, so i guess that feature is good enough for now.
You could put "# submissions (#total)", for people who keep track of how far they've looked through a tab.
Probably too much trouble. It just caught my notice.
Oh right, you mentioning that you NO longer have a forum also....
would it be possible to allow the user to select which folder (or, as it is now, the Main Gallery) shows up on the user page/Gallery tab?
I think I'm going to like these changes though, so a few days of inconvenience while they fix extender is worth it.
I can't figure out how to do anything with folders though, and Favorites still looks like just one big folder (Old page layout) to me.
there's no mention of the people that got banned for pointing out bullshit
there's no mention of the people that got banned for linking to the imgur dump
there's no mention of forcing people to sign a non-legally binding and incomplete NDA to continued work on the site and FAF (at the time)
there's no mention of the sinking ship that is FA
but here's a shitty broken incomplete half-assed implementation of "folders" ya ignorant people :)
And still these people would find some way to cry about folders.
Meanwhile, at FA:U, a woman says she was sexually assaulted, and no-one seems to care. Yay folders, I care about only me! Me me me! Who cares what happens in this fandom, it's all about me!
People gossiping and shit slinging like they're in junior high should take your accusation = guilty and outrage porn culture somewhere else, the rest of us are tired of it.
That woman? Are you referring to the Zaush thing? Cause I wasn't.
It's also not gossip when you have chatlogs and screenshots of comments.
But whatever. know you don't care about anything, so there's no point in arguing.
"That woman? Are you referring to the Zaush thing? Cause I wasn't."
You said a woman got sexually assaulted at FA:U. That woman. She went to the police right? Because that's where you report crimes, not the internet. Please tell me she didn't just go to the internet.
If crimes occurred, report them. Those responsible should be punished by law. If no crimes occurred, shut the hell up. I'm not joining your internet smear campaign. I'm not joining your internet bullying. I'm sick of people bringing up 5 year old nonsense like it's shocking news, when it was never as severe as claimed. I've seen the logs and screenshots, they show jack shit. Good lord talk about people cherry picking comments and taking things out of context. Plus most of these "logs" were obtained as a result of HACKING, an actual crime that people like you don't seem to care about. You know, by a real criminal. There's a reason that kind of stuff gets thrown out in a court of law.
It has nothing to do with art. But by all means smear, block, and run, you coward. It's all you bullies know how to do.
Also fun fact: no one on FA actually ran the forums, it was it's own separate entity ran by another guy completely
And, oh yes, I agree with others replying to you that FA is not much better than FAF -- if we're comparing depravity to sociopathy. Both in rounded metric fucktons.
But, to be fair, furries on FurAffinity -- the largest furry website in the world -- haven't been able to meet and hash out a furry philosophy of the limits and parameters of what being a furry means and police themselves, accordingly, as a community. Maybe, *GASP*, even find a way for the THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE who are deeply involved in furry fandom to meet as a whole, face themselves, and transform their shame of unsatisfying online sublimation into healthy fulfilling real world relationships (beyond the weekend commercially-based exploitations that are furry conventions) -- WITH PEOPLE. Hmmmmmm.... if only there was a place to foster these changes. *racks brain* In a place, where... I don't know... like, hmmmmm.... you know, a decent forums where the trolls had not taken over and even been promoted to mods BY FA STAFF/ADMINISTRATION in MANY cases.
EDIT: had to hide and repost because I saw bad grammar, and I couldn't edit past the 10 minute mark.
Some people who post there are trying too hard, that's true. Generally speaking, they don't like people who whine, but they also don't like assholes. As long as you present your opinion in a somewhat coherent way and don't make an ass out of yourself you can have a great time there.
I remember when you used to post there. Back then it was way worse than it is today.
Then again, I do avoid the fandom related subforums and only post in the offtopic, forum games and video game related sections.
As for the racism, there where some threads in which users posted some... uncomfortable truths. What they said wasn't racist, but some users interpreted the posts as such. For example, someone said that black people in ghetto areas are being forced into poverty by racist people, which leads to violence and thus even more poverty. That was interpreted as racist. But they merely pointed out the fundermental issue within the American society and what has to be fixed to get rid of these problems.
Race is a toughy subject, even if you say something that is true meant to help it can be interpreted as racist by some people.
...There are also trolls, which should be ignored anyway :P
The most thriving board on there is rants & raves, because ultimately most people on there like to use it as their soapbox to get arguments going and get people mad. The last time i was there people were whining about those big, bad SJWs and how much being politically correct is ruining everything, yadda yadda typical reddit drivel. It's barely related to the fandom at all, and is moreso just mouthy people saying things they'd get flack for saying on the mainsite. I just don't get why everyone is so defensive over it, like it's important or something. There's no more community involvement in the fandom than you would get out of 8chan's /furry/ or something like that.
Yes, they are very anti-SJWs because the more vocal SJWs are usually hypocritical retards. They are also against this kind of feminism: http://abload.de/img/sjwrssfx.jpg
In my opinion FAF, or now Phoenix, has always been one of the more sane forums. It's mostly anti-religious, anti-ultra-SJWs and anti-ultra-feminism. Bullshit like that simply doesn't fly there and that is also why I enjoy posting there. It's simply not a hugbox! If you are spewing nonsense someone is gonna tell you to shut up. And that is how it should be.
As for your thread, that does sound bad... Was that in the art subforum or in the fursona related fandom subforum?
Most furry forums that I have seen attract a lot of trashy people. That's just how it is.
Best example for how much that place has changed since they broke away from FA.
If they were to make an announcement why this happened they would have to explain the situation, which means admitting that the management fucked up. And we obviously can't have that...
I don't like the submission page with the preview images tho, looks crowded there (classic layout)
*also in the future it would be really nice for their to be an option for submissions from artist you watch showing up in a folder instead of having to scan through a bunch of submissions when a bunch of artist decide to mass upload stuff. D:
I am very happy this feature is here but it isn't working properly for me and it's pretty annoying when I am trying to make my gallery more organized ^^
right now I'm just playing the Guess and Check game. It's almost like a puzzle to see if you can align them just right before making the bigger moves of adjusting them up or down
Thank you
Thank you
But all in all, I heavily appreciate this new change
And the gallery preview under the pics is...nay :/
I like the "Featured in the following folders:" part under the submissions when viewing them. BUT the "Main Gallery" thing is kind of pointless and the thumbnails there are just clutter and not necessary at all.
I DO like that that the submissions stay in the main gallery as well, because most the time I will want to see everything a person has done. and will only use the folders when looking for something specific. (This is one of those things that always irked me about deviantart, the people who only used their sub galleries and forced me to open multiple things just to look at their art)
OH! I have a GREAT suggestion. Lift the unnecessary fucking art bans.
Also my normal gallery has turned into more beta looking (showing my icon on top left) i dislike it as i dislike the ugly 'others in this gallery' thing under submission, its very distracting and just looks bad on classic style, but i admit its handy unless the person isnt using folders (just improve the layout of it please)
Just finished to organize all my works in the folders, I LOVE THEM!!!! :D
I can make them but I can't seem to put art in folders. I'm gone through the Submissions tab but it doesn't seem like the art goes anywhere. I look in the folders afterwards and there is nothing in them. It all just seems confusing and complicated.
I'd just like a simple step by step guide of how to use them.
---BETA- It's under COntrols
---Classic- It's under Page Manegment
2. At the Top, CLick "Add Folder"
3. Name your FOlder (Make sure it is the Name section and not the group section) and Write a Diescription
4. Click Create. You should now be redirected back to the Folder Management Page.
5. Go to your New Folder and click "Add Submission" under it's action Tab thing.
This should bring you to a new Page with all artwork from your gallery.
6. On the Left, there should be a Pannel. The First DropDown should have either
the Name of your new folder or "Select Folder" with the button "Assign" next to it.
Make sure it is on the folder you want to fill
7. Select Artwork you want in that Folder
8. Click Assign
I'm starting to think it's bugged and not bother with it
The art remains in the main gallery when it is added to a folder. the art is in both at the same time.
1. I go under the Gallery Folders tab under Page Management
2. I see the list of my Folders and click the Add submissions button on one of the folders.
3. That takes me to the Submissions tab where I can click on Pics to go into the Folder I want
4. After I select all the pics on the page that I want to go into the folder, I push the Assign button.
5. The page refreshes and the artwork hasn't moved. I look in the Folder in my gallery and it is still empty.
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks. I hope you can figure out what's wrong. I'm beginning to think that the folders are just more trouble than they're worth and not bothering with then.
I have pics selected when I click Assign if that is what you are talking about
Though I've never gotten a reply from tech on any issue before. I hope that they can figure out what is wrong with this this time
If you're not comfortable troubleshooting in detail in public comments, just create a ticket and let me know and we'll continue there.
I don't like the Preview under submissions, though. I looks unappealing and can
take away from the Piece above it. But the navigation purpose is nice to have.
Also, it makes the image look smaller, or did the image actually get smaller?
Also, folders for favourites would be very much appreciated! And maybe a seperate friends/watch list while we're at it, maybe even have folders for people you watch too so we can keep track of who people want to commission, favourite artists, toony artists ect
Now they seem pointless I guess... you can see previews of those+2^^
Hell, the order of my folders in my folder management page are completely different from the order in my gallery. o_o; I don't know what's going on, but mine is messing up like crazy.
Is anyone else having this problem, or is it just me?
Here's a screenshot to show what I mean about the folder positions being different in both my folder management page and my gallery.
Neither are in the order I want, by the way. It's just completely uncooperative with me.
So folders are 100% no use to me because i cannot use them.
The whole process is kinda more complicated than it needs to be in my opinion. LoL.
It is indeed over complicated, i shouldnt have to have a manual to use something other websites did with ease.
I dont expect a drag and drop option for a old site like this but i would like it to at lease work
Instead of making folders in a convenient place like my gallery or favs. I instead have to go to a menu...ok thats fine
well the menu is not working, i only get "folder group option" and i have no idea to even put my submissions into the folders, I looked everywhere. Am I missing something?
I guess im just use to DA's easy to use organization. Well it use to be, i think they found a way to over complicated it by now its been 5 years sense i checked up on it
Leave the first text field blank and be sure to fill out the second one. I accidentally mistook the first text field for the folder name, and left the second blank, and that caused the folders to now show up at all for me. It's not really laid out well, so it's easy to get confused. At least that's how it was for me.
As for adding submissions into folders, once you have the actual folders made there's a button next to the folder name that actually allows you to add submissions that way. Otherwise you go to your submissions management page: http://www.furaffinity.net/controls/submissions/ to add them into folders.
You know, writing that all out now makes me feel even more that this is all too complicated for it's own good... Ffff.
But yeah, DA's is WAY better for organization. It's easy to keep track of which pictures are in what folder, and it's just... not difficult to navigate at all. XD;
ugh i kinda give up >.>
i shouldnt have to go to 3-4 different pages to get one photo to move. But this is a old website so eh.....
I know it's not an ideal solution, but it's the only way around the bug right now it seems.
It reminds me of twitter. Following people also didn't work as I thought it would. I wasn't send all the tweets of the people I follow but I get a daily email with random tweets of random people who are followed by the people I follow. That's extremely useless...
But honestly I'm pretty happy about the FA system, it allows me to easily find submissions where you know who made them. Having to look into several folders and sub folders would make it pretty hard to actually find something. Like the DA-System where you sometimes think they don't have any submissions at all... Maybe that and the super colourful kindergarten look of DA prevents me from using it.
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/...../#cid:47277370 I hope that helps you with your photos.
Thanks anyway!
That's the only destination left if you don't want them in the main gallery but they'd be still reachable from it via folder^^
At first I was afraid there is no way around that but I was glad to discovered such a 'trick' is possible^^
Perhaps that's not the worst, this way we have 2 areas which, combined, show the total of our submissions, noone has to check all folders one by one just to find sth they have no idea where the submitter decided to put into. :P
Maybe I should be glad folders are here. Just hoping they start working fully as they should be before I change my gallery. Lack of folders were a reason I planned to post exclusive content in other websites. Maybe now I can plan to expand even here in FA.
Did it really take an entire volunteer staff team leaving their positions out of frustration in order to see some results on this site? =\
Yay!
*working hard sorting*
HINT:
BTW, people, combine scraps with folders:) This way you can hide certain submissions from your main gallery while showing them in folders visible on your gallery page!
For example... I'm sorting out all my pictures into folders based on which of my characters are in the picture (ie, one for Gren, one for Vanilla, etc). This is so that, if people like my character and want to find more pictures of that specific character, then it's easy to do. However, this also means that ALL my pictures will be in one folder or another. If I selected "Hide", then ALL my pictures would be hidden. Adding another folder that I think of at a later date would mean I'd still have to go through the whole thing once again.
However... on that thought, maybe adding a Keyword search to the Submission Management section or in the main gallery itself, allowing you to search ONLY your gallery for specific things (like a character name, or something that's happening in the picture, etc) might be more useful...
For example, I'm sorting all my pictures by which characters are in them. Thus, if people like a picture I upload that has two of my characters in it, they can click the name of the folder and see all the pictures that involve that character.
I see what your saying though. However, it means you can put the same picture in multiple folders. If you had to move it from the main gallery to a single folder, it would mean you'd have to upload it multiple times just to put it in more than one folder.
Mayhaps we could have an option to turn it off and have it revert back to just having a single link to the Main Gallery under the picture?
but the gallery preview?... eh~ it looks a bit clunky at the bottom of the submission.. i think they're too.. big? maybe?.. compared to the image that's supposed to be the focus of the page. maybe if you shrink those down more, or make the main submission preview a little larger (not full size, just a little bigger) it'd look better.
otherwise, everything's good so far :)
You're not being helpful, your comment isn't useful. Don't complain that they're ACTUALLY starting to improve the site at last.
Don't forget that it wasn't until earlier this year that the site gained any real funding. It used to be run by Dragoneer and a few other people, and now it can afford a proper-sized team and all-round better maintenance. Things take time, give them a chance. They'll get round to properly updating the site soon enough.
It took me 10 minutes to scroll down on tablet. Can we resolve bulk comments (to dinamically load) or simple placing the comment field to the top?I am happy to see that FA is improving :))
Current way is okay in notes because it's forcing people to read. I guess, problem is more like at comments on arts and journals. But it's only for comfort
Keep up the good work FA <3
Your submissions haven't been deleted by administration, either way. Could you file a ticket, please, and we'll help you look into whether your account may have been compromised?
In there, you can create folders and even sub-folders (folders within folders, for a two-tiered management/filing system), that you can later add current and future submissions into :3
Congratulation!
Basically, yes, we're looking to have more options with future updates, but there's some backend things that need to be sorted out first.
But I have this really annoying problem where when I move folders up and down, some of them end up being in unexpected places, thus I can't place the folders in the order I want.
Like
IN MY LIFETIME FURAFFINITY GOT FOLDERS
PRAISE HELIX IT IS DONE
If you're concerned about it being "too much like DA", you should maybe address new upload AUP rules that allow anyone with a camera phone to flood with low-quality pictures of their bedroom, their plushies, hundreds of pictures of their fursuit sitting on a bed at different angles, and essentially anything else that doesn't belong on an art site. The idea to make furaffinity "more than an art site" is a good idea and all, but if you're slacking rules to where people can post any content they want, including unedited memes and screenshots, then you're opening the door to people being able to use this as their image dump. Remember the old saying we had of "furaffinity is not your photobucket"? I'd like that back. That's my biggest grievance.
Edit: that includes "art for me" accounts, especially when we have users that post art done for them on their main gallery, their character gallery, and their art for me gallery. I shouldn't check a tag and have two or three pages entirely flooded with art I've already seen because someone dumped every commission they've gotten into a new account.
Username drop down at the top of the screen -> profile info -> Page management on the left side of the window -> Manage gallery folders."
thanks for the change
positive stuff for FA for once!!
congratz on a successful con !!
Now what I'd REALLY like is for the thumbnails to only show the adjacent items in the currently-selected folder. Then I won't have to keep returning to the folder view in order to browse sequentially through the folder contents.
Sorry if I am restating something that has already been suggested, but I don't have time to catch up on all 700+ posts here.
I love the new features and capabilities, now is possible to organize the submissions by category: example: I can create folders to organize the adult submissions, clean, gifts and ect .... ^.-.^
It would be interesting if it were also possible to update and add new features on old user control page >.-.>
>.-.> :v honestly, it's horrible, this interface does not allow you to have a complete control as suggests, practically it is impossible to view older messages to see them it is necessary to delete the most recent displayed on page
or, I could see some vigilante, is only possible to access the latest displayed in user control panel, allows you to track the earliest (and obviously hidden by the interface) x.-.x
Anyway, good job, I hope soon the user control interface can be improved too. ^.///.^
Opss.... ^.-.^ :P Lol *really very amazing*
rip
really good feature though. would be even better if, after choosing to sort some things into folders, I could then hide those submissions from my main gallery.
cheers guys, keep up with the positive improvement
Not a feature that's useful until it actually works.
HA!
A stress test is intended to intentionally cause a failure through load, only to see if the system can operate fine once loads are reduced down to acceptable levels. Therefore if they did do a 'stress test' and the system recovered to normal operation again, this would be considered a pass. In other words, it wouldn't match the criteria you're trying to imply stress testing does to deal with this specific scenario.
You're full of shit here too, anexplosivedevice.
This is probably going to be a major blow to your ego, bub, but following me around and trying to correct me on shit isn't making you look smart or credible. It's making you look like a fucking idiot, and you're coming off as desperate for attention. Nobody likes a smart-arse, and the last I checked, nobody really likes you.
Far be it for me to stop you, though. Watching this shit is highly amusing.
This is probably going to be a major blow to your ego, bub, but all I am doing is scrolling down on a web page.
> trying to correct me
The funny thing is, I'm not trying, I am doing. Also, this helps make time pass by faster while travelling.
> making you look smart or credible
We've seen numerous posts of you judging people's capabilities, if they're qualified to do the work, you're exclaiming of knowledge of development/testing processes etc. Meanwhile, it's becoming obvious you don't even know things from easy certifications like ISTQB foundation level.
> It's making you look like a fucking idiot
For a little fun, to prove this theory; I showed a screenshot of this thread to some random furs on an IRC channel (don't worry, it's not possible they were friends, since 'nobody really likes' me) and asked, nobody seemed to think I looked like an idiot. Man, even with a disposition to dislike me, people didn't think I was an idiot (or note anything negative otherwise). Now my ego has a raging hard on, what have you done!?
> and the last I checked, nobody really likes you.
Haha, "Nobody really likes you!". I am totally going to be using that in real life as a response for reasons to do something.
That sure is a funny way of saying 'arguing for the sake of being right', and while we're at it: having your friends jerk your dick to prove the point hardly improves your stance on things.
Congratulations, you've just destroyed every shred of credibility you ever had in but a few short sentences. The NCB could have learned a few tips from you about how to undermine.
Thanks for playing. Insert coin y/n?
Again with your assumptions and conclusions that you keep trying to put on me. I made it clear in my previous post that the purpose is to make time move faster while I am travelling. Yet, here you are, again, reading into things that aren't there, again.
> having your friends jerk your dick
That's not my fetish, sorry. A few of my fetishes are very clear in my gallery.
> to prove the point.
No, I have no friends, you see, "nobody really likes" me.
> hardly improves your stance on things
My stance is that you're full of shit and you're revealing you are full of shit.
> Insert coin y/n?
Not my fetish, sorry.
Bravo, old chap c:
Nah, shitposting is not being able to produce constructive posts, not add additional information, making rude, worthless posts etc. You're really not doing well at even common Internet language.
> to amuse yourself.
Sure, I post to amuse myself, others, and other reasons, such as informing others, participating in discussions etc.
You on the other hand, I very much get the impression you primarily have toxic desires here.
You on the other hand, I very much get the impression you primarily have toxic desires here.
If by 'toxic' you mean 'bring to light the acidic and utterly abhorrent situation regarding the upper management' then sure. I'm pretty toxic.
You're so cute when you're dumb c:
Love the folder update too, I was so excited seeing that in the con books!
For instance, say I accidentally put a bunch of submissions in the wrong folder. Instead of going to that folder, picking them out and removing them, I have to sort through the main gallery ( an awful lot of pictures) to remove them from all folders.
I was hoping for a multi-page submission like how Inkbunny does it.
In my gallery, there is still clutter of alternative versions of pictures.
If you put a series of pictures in a folder it should show the first thumbnail from a folder only.
One annoying thing is that when you want to multi-add submissions, when you press the "Next" button, you lose all your currently checked submissions.
I'd still want to see a way to group multi-submissions (like comic pages and alts) under a single one so it doesn't clutter the main gallery.
Some things that would really help, though:
-When you hit the "next" button, it'd be nice if submissions you've already checked stayed checked. I have an absolutely huge gallery and it's troublesome to just keep scrolling back up to select the folder and dump everything after each page.
-It'd be nice if the system remembered what your last folder option was after each submission dump (this would be especially useful if you're not going to fix the thing unchecking images after the next button has been hit).
-Having the submit options on the bottom of the page instead of (or as well as) the top would also be nice instead of having to scroll all the way back up every time.
-Make it so that you can collapse and expand folders in the folder management page so things look a lot less hectic
I feel like I'm forgetting something but I'll post another comment if I remember ahhhh
Still, definitely thank you to the staff. This makes organizing sold vs unsold adopts especially easy
A feature to jump page gallery numbers would be really great and is pretty much necessary for huge galleries. Editing the number at the top works, but it's absolutely annoying because the way the pages are numbered, the first page has no number and the second one is "1". So if you forget this, you wind up hopping to the wrong pages a lot and it's just a big mess
So basically another 'neer screw up.
Adds beautifully into his resumée.
Some have stated that Scraps are for this purpose but I feel that Scraps are for incomplete sketches and such, not commissioned pieces.
next up... increasing the max filesize limit of icons/avatars from the infinitesimally low 55KBs to a more reasonable number, like something in the MB range
Hopefully some of the issues/complaints with moving artwork around between folders will be ironed out in due time.
Second, I know this is still new and all, but is there gonna be a way to exclude folders from gallery pages?
(Like, have certain art in a folder in your gallery that just doesn't pop up on your front page, so that we can keep art from others in our gallery rather than scraps without having it take away the focus of our own art.)
Also a tad fishy you suddenly pop out folders after all the drama of more evidence of shitty management and all the forum admins quitting happen
No folders for favorites.
I've had it plenty of times on numerous sites.
> it means their is some code in their icon stuff that looks like code designed to track and gather info.
Clearly the software has overzealous heuristics in this edge case.
I second the favourites folders idea.
Also, I would like to organize the order of submissions in my gallery and folder rather than by date, so I can submit hoards of my older art and organize it myself by proper date. I've been waiting to submit hundreds of photos from deviantart on to furaffinity, just want the organization to be on here first!
After this is done I can finally use this website the way I intended. :)
Sometimes I fave a picture specifically because of its content, or I might want to commission someone in the future and its hrs to sort through after a while.
*I literally looked above and saw that someone said the same thing, I echo what they or anyone else before has said about folders for favorites.
I'd suggest taking over a system used on Inkbunny where you can add additional images to a submission allowing you to post comics and sequences in panels into a single submission. Every time you add a new page to it it treats the file as a new submission and sends a file update.
*sits and stares*
I've looked at a vast amount of negative comments on FA's journals, very few have resulted in being banned for them and very few hidden by administration. I can't really grasp what you could post that would result in you getting banned unless you were being extremely vulgar, doxing, posting private chat logs etc.
Complaints aren't necessarily constructive criticism. Are you certain they weren't being toxic?
> bringing things into awareness even if it's nowhere near to doxing or either private chat logs
'Bringing things into awareness' sounds like the sort of thing that breeds toxic behaviour through ad hominem attacks or presenting facts to make a negative story for the purposes of riling up a community.
> Heck one of em worked on project pheonix
I wouldn't judge someone like that as an average user under the same rules as everyone else.
I am baffled though. if this isn't getting you banned, then what constructive feedback regarding 'folders' could you be posting that would get you banned (considering the other constructive feedback already provided in this journal and some of the more hateful comments).
I can get some of em being considered toxic but some like damn, FAR from being even remotely close to toxic.
'Bringing things into awareness' sounds like the sort of thing that breeds toxic behaviour through ad hominem attacks or presenting facts to make a negative story for the purposes of riling up a community.
So being critical and concerned and trying to get people to know awful things being done and asking for answers in a reasonable manner that doesn't break any existing rules, being insulting, ad hominems, or being aggressive is just wanting to be toxic and trying to rile up the community? Really being critical and wanting answers WITHOUT acting like some of the people that make an ass out of themselves like some of the most infamous "naysayers" that have been going through these journals for the past year, not even remotely close, should be something encouraged and in no way something that breeds toxic behavior. If it comes to making up shit and manipulating facts I can get it but it wasn't not even remotely close to that.
if this isn't getting you banned, then what constructive feedback regarding 'folders' could you be posting that would get you banned
Well, from what I saw such people get banned for (not talking about the leaked logs or similar, but other BS), I can come to see what sort of things I must avoid saying or letting people know, or saying certain types of criticisms about the site or just this last update, even if it comes to just quoting or replying to the admins comments on this very page to point out some problems, could get me suspended.
Also there seems to be some "favoritism" when it comes to who they ban, some can say some shit that others get banned for, but not because they like those more, but the other way around.
Oh, also, would there be a "clear all favorites that have been deleted" button?
Is this going to be a long-term issue because it's already been like this for about a month now. I assume it's related to reorganising things to make folders work?
Thanks for the heads up.
I'd definitely fave more stuff if there were folders I could organize it all with. <3
It only seems to appear when I hover over it, otherwise it's just this long blank space between "Settings" and "SFW"
When I search something up and exclude a rating - Adult, for example - I'm not a fan of how I end up seeing everything of every rating. Some artists might have a safe pic or well-done Mature art buried between a bunch of Adult-rated pics, and that's not what I wanted to see, yet the Gallery strip underneath the submission will show everything.
Kind of wish there was a way to exclude a rating across the whole site, but otherwise no real complaints.
>>Account Management
>>>Account Settings
Should be an option in there called 'Content Maturity Filter'. From there you can choose what the exclude rating-wise.
Hope that's what you meant!
This is so a newcomer to the gallery can see items that may be outside a specific interest but intrigues enough to perk new interests.
If all submissions are in folders, its back to the "one-by-one-by-one-by-one-" adnausium syndrome; too many places to look.
It would also reduce tensions between some people.
I also think favorite folders would be kinda cool.
1) please for the love of god develop a mobile app. This site is absolute shit on mobile devices.
2) please make it possible to nuke nsfw submissions when in sfw mode. I know this seems like a weird request so let me elaborate. If you're like me, you have sfw always enabled and if you're like me you hit check all and remove submissions. However this causes a problem. I am usually left with some number of nsfw submissions that I cannot get rid of unless I leave sfw mode to nuke them. Or if you wait until someone posts something you can see in sfw and then you nuke everything. But who wants to do either of those things? Please please please make the nuke button visible if submissions are present.
Thank you for reading if you did.
I'm trying to alphabetize them but they keep getting out of order and it's really frustrating! I think it would help if you put a note down for "how moving folders up and down work"
I say almost because though the previews of animated GIFs have been fixed in the next/previous bar works (you can see one frame of the animation), it is still broken in the galleries section. Once addressed, I will be a totally happy camper! :) Nice job guys, it seems that the feedback did not fall into deaf ears. Keep up the excellent work! :)
also hate the new 'put in your password' to confirm you want to delete things, that's really annoying
I'd become a lot more active on this site if an update with those were to be applied, and I know for a fact that I'm not the only one who's eager for this to be added. It would be nice to have folders to organize the multiple seas of favorites with, that many users on this site have.
Pleeease consider adding them, it would seriously be a good addition to the site.
I am at the situation were I am considering deletig favourites to keep it all ordered for later references.