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PSA: Noting Me
Posted 12 years agoHey Guys -
So I wanted to address a "problem" I've been having the past week or so...
Lately many of you have decided to note me to ask me about my day or how I am doing or to talk to me about how you feel regarding the things going on with my character theft situation. While I love talking to my fans, I have to ask for you guys to please stop noting me to hold casual conversations.
I primarily use notes to communicate with artists about commissions or take care of character theft situations and prefer my inbox not to be cluttered with small talk conversations that can be held via comments, shout or messenger so I can use the note system to address the more important things.
"So, Icee," you ask, "What if I want to ask about your day or get to know you better or tell you how I feel about something?"
WELL.
Here are some options for places I find small talk more appropriate:
Leave me a shout!
If you don't have a whole lot to say but just want to say hi and find out how my day is going, a shout is perfect for this!
Drop me a comment!
If you want to share your opinion about something I've posted on and don't mind it being read by others, a comment on the relevant journal/submission is great! If you'd prefer it be kept private, look at the other options listed below.
Come say hi on SL!
My SL username is posted on my page. I don't mind at all when people come talk to me on SL to say hi! I'm usually on in the evenings hanging out with friends so please feel free to look me up there to have casual conversations! I may not always be the fastest on responses and sometimes go AFK or am tabbed out but I do my best to respond to everyone when I am able!
Ask me about my Skype!
If the above options are not floating your boat, I DO have a Skype and you are free to send me a note to ask for it so you may talk to me there. That being said, I do have a couple of things I will ask you to respect when messaging me on Skype, the biggest being to please respect my skype status.
If none of these options are available to you, we can discuss other ways to contact me but please help me keep my inbox here tidy!
Also - if you have been guilty of this, there is no need to apologize! You had no idea and up until now, I wasn't very clear about how I felt about this. Now that you know, I have no qualms continuing the conversation via one of the more appropriate methods listed above!
So I wanted to address a "problem" I've been having the past week or so...
Lately many of you have decided to note me to ask me about my day or how I am doing or to talk to me about how you feel regarding the things going on with my character theft situation. While I love talking to my fans, I have to ask for you guys to please stop noting me to hold casual conversations.
I primarily use notes to communicate with artists about commissions or take care of character theft situations and prefer my inbox not to be cluttered with small talk conversations that can be held via comments, shout or messenger so I can use the note system to address the more important things.
"So, Icee," you ask, "What if I want to ask about your day or get to know you better or tell you how I feel about something?"
WELL.
Here are some options for places I find small talk more appropriate:
Leave me a shout!
If you don't have a whole lot to say but just want to say hi and find out how my day is going, a shout is perfect for this!
Drop me a comment!
If you want to share your opinion about something I've posted on and don't mind it being read by others, a comment on the relevant journal/submission is great! If you'd prefer it be kept private, look at the other options listed below.
Come say hi on SL!
My SL username is posted on my page. I don't mind at all when people come talk to me on SL to say hi! I'm usually on in the evenings hanging out with friends so please feel free to look me up there to have casual conversations! I may not always be the fastest on responses and sometimes go AFK or am tabbed out but I do my best to respond to everyone when I am able!
Ask me about my Skype!
If the above options are not floating your boat, I DO have a Skype and you are free to send me a note to ask for it so you may talk to me there. That being said, I do have a couple of things I will ask you to respect when messaging me on Skype, the biggest being to please respect my skype status.
If none of these options are available to you, we can discuss other ways to contact me but please help me keep my inbox here tidy!
Also - if you have been guilty of this, there is no need to apologize! You had no idea and up until now, I wasn't very clear about how I felt about this. Now that you know, I have no qualms continuing the conversation via one of the more appropriate methods listed above!
No Longer Allowing e621 Posts of Icee
Posted 12 years agoDue to some comments that have been directed my way regarding Icee on e621 (namely people commenting that I am submitting her to e621 for people to repost on purpose - which, to address, I have never submitted ANY artwork of her there myself), I have made the decision to no longer allow any artwork of her to be reposted there. I have filed the takedown request and ask that you please honor my wishes to keep her only in my own gallery and those of the artists who draw her.
I am sorry it has to come to this as I know e621 can be really great for sharing images (and has a fantastic tagging system) but I simply do not feel that sharing artwork of Icee there is in my best interests anymore.
Thanks guys <3
I am sorry it has to come to this as I know e621 can be really great for sharing images (and has a fantastic tagging system) but I simply do not feel that sharing artwork of Icee there is in my best interests anymore.
Thanks guys <3
Where You Can Find Me - Real Icee vs. Fakes
Posted 12 years agoBecause it has been brought to my attention that someone has apparently been parading around as Icee on IRC for RP (and also the recent F-list doppleganger), I thought I would once more make it clear where I can be found on the internet to help people verify if they're talking to the real deal or not.
Here are all of my furry related accounts where THE REAL Icee can be found:
DeviantArt
e621
Email - missicee23 at gmail dot com
F-List
FurAffinity Accounts (icee, icees_art)
InkBunny
Nintendo 3DSXL - 1736-0796-0501
Livejournal
SecondLife Deactivated. No longer having a presence here.
Skype - missandirabbit Deactivated. No longer having a presence here.
SoFurry
Steam - missicee
Tumblr
Twitter
Weasyl
Here is a list of frequent places you will find FAKES.
I DO NOT USE ANY OF THE PLACES LISTED BELOW:
Dating Websites
Facebook
IRC channels
Twitter
PSN/Xbox
RP websites
If you find someone anywhere I have not specifically listed here as a place I use, chances are it's a fake. This handy guide will help clue you in but if you are still wondering, absolutely feel free to come ask me here before you interact with them! I would rather people question me and have it turn out to be me than trust someone who is clearly using my character WITHOUT my permission (especially if they are going as far as to use my name with my art!)
Here are all of my furry related accounts where THE REAL Icee can be found:
DeviantArt
e621
Email - missicee23 at gmail dot com
F-List
FurAffinity Accounts (icee, icees_art)
InkBunny
Nintendo 3DSXL - 1736-0796-0501
Livejournal
SoFurry
Steam - missicee
Tumblr
Weasyl
Here is a list of frequent places you will find FAKES.
I DO NOT USE ANY OF THE PLACES LISTED BELOW:
Dating Websites
IRC channels
PSN/Xbox
RP websites
If you find someone anywhere I have not specifically listed here as a place I use, chances are it's a fake. This handy guide will help clue you in but if you are still wondering, absolutely feel free to come ask me here before you interact with them! I would rather people question me and have it turn out to be me than trust someone who is clearly using my character WITHOUT my permission (especially if they are going as far as to use my name with my art!)
Irrelevant Skype Stuff.
Posted 12 years agoGreen = Available.
This means I am more than likely at my computer and ready to have conversations with you and am looking to chat! Feel free to message me about anything from idle chat to serious questions to whatever. That being said, I may have had to step away for something and didn't have time to change my status to away so if I am unable to respond immediately, please be patient!
Yellow = AWAY
This means I am not at my computer and/or cannot respond to messages immediately. It is probably not a good idea to try and start a casual conversation with me when my status is set to away as I cannot dedicate the attention to such a conversation BUT feel free to leave me a message. I will eventually do my best to get back to you... Until I have my status set to available (green), please keep in mind I probably won't be able to hold much of a concrete conversation as I am usually working on something important, playing a full screen game, watching a movie or doing something that leaves me mostly distracted.
Red = DO NOT DISTURB
This means I am not in the mood for casual conversations or may be extremely busy doing something and do not wish to be disturbed. "But Icee" you say "If you do not wish to be spoken with, why even be on Skype?" Skype is one of the fastest ways to contact me so I tend to leave my Skype up just in case an artist or friend REALLY needs to get a hold of me. Sometimes, I am just in a really bad mood and want to talk with one or two particular people who I know are able to handle me being in a bad mood. When I am set to do not disturb, unless I have initiated conversation, please reserve your messages for emergency or business ONLY, even if it has been several days. If you try to hold casual conversation with me while I am listed as DND, chances are EXTREMELY high that you will be ignored.
I have noticed that many people have been trying to hold casual conversations with me when my status is set to away or DND and it can be rather frustrating to feel like my attempts to communicate the level of conversation I am willing to have are straight up ignored. Occasionally, I have even posted an accompanying text status such as "Busy working - expect slow responses" and still get people who get upset when I don't respond to them immediately.
So I'd like to take this time to remind everyone to please mind someone's Skype status, especially if they have it set to do not disturb. Chances are they don't want to have a casual conversation with you.
If you feel you are solely responsible for me posting this journal, rest assured that MANY people have pushed me to post this and you are not the only one who has slipped up... please also rest assured that I don't hate you or not want to talk with you. I just wanted to remind people to be mindful of someone's skype status as it usually indicates the level of conversation they are willing or able to have.
No longer relevant as I deactivated my Skype.
More Irrelevant Skype Stuff
Posted 12 years ago1. I don't use voice or cam with people I don't consider extremely close to me so please don't expect me to use these features with you.
2. I rarely initiate conversations with people unless I have something I need/want to tell them so when you want to talk, you'll probably have to come to me. Please do not be offended if I do not come to you for conversation as it is NOTHING personal.
3. I hate awkward small talk, especially when it has no direction. Asking me direct questions to get to know me better is more than welcome but I hate it when people try to hold conversations that go something like this: "Soooo... how are you? That's good to hear. What's the weather like? Oh that's nice. Wow. I'm super bored... soooo what do you want to talk about?" I much prefer conversation with direction to it as I do not enjoy feeling like I am supposed to be entertaining you. Conversation should come naturally and if you find you have to force it, you should probably think about why you want to talk to me. If the answer is "because I am bored," please find something to do yourself instead of metaphorically putting me up on a pedestal and telling me to dance - I am not here to keep you busy. If the answer is "because you want to get to know me," ask me questions about things you want to know about me, even if they are silly things like what my favorite pizza topping is. I love answering/asking random questions to get to know people better! If you engage me in awkward small talk with no direction, chances are I will eventually stop responding to you because I have nothing to say so please be aware of this!
4. Please do not press your personal problems/drama on me. If we are talking about issues we are having and it is relevant to the conversation or if I ask about it, it's totally cool! But I really, really hate it when people I don't know very well suddenly decide to divulge everything that is going wrong with their life on me. Something like: "Hey how are you? Oh I'm totally awful because my roommate is an asshole and he stole my money and then lied about it and then I was walking home and my girlfriend broke up with me and I'm so lonely. I wish we could hang out" Saying things like "I had kind of a bad day" is completely fine and if I want to know more about your bad day, I will ask and then you can tell me... but please please pleeeaasse don't just dump it on me when I don't really know you all that well. If you need to vent, ask first before you just unload on me. Sometimes I'm having a bad day too and I want to talk about positive things instead!
5. If I do not respond immediately, I am probably not ignoring you. I am more than likely occupied with something else or didn't notice. Sometimes Skype fails to make the little sound to alert me of new messages and I am blissfully unaware until I tab over. Please do not take slow response times personally. I am a human being and as much as I would like to give my full attention to everyone all the time, I am physically incapable. This goes in conjunction with the next bit -
6. I use my Skype statuses to actively display my current mood/level of attention. These are further explained here
7. I tend to remove people from my friends list if I have not talked to you in several weeks or months. If this happens, please do not take this as "I don't like you." I simply like to keep my friends list pretty clean and pared down to those I do talk to regularly. If I kept EVERYONE who talked to me for a while and then stopped, I would barely be able to find the people I talk to on a regular basis. In most cases, if you find yourself suddenly removed from my friends list with no explanation, it doesn't mean I won't add you back if you want to continue talking again or that I hate you or that you did something wrong... it usually just means we haven't spoken in forever and I'm trying to keep my contacts list clean and easy to navigate!
8. Speak to me like an adult, not a child. I understand some of you enjoy RPing as baby furs but I am an adult trying to have an intelligent conversation with you. I know you don't speak like a baby fur at work and I'd like to hope you don't speak like a baby fur around your family and real life friends. If I was RPing with you, that would be a different situation and I would be completely OK with you embodying your fursona... but when I am trying to have a conversation with you as an adult and a real life individual out of character, I expect you to talk like an adult with me. If you speak like a child, I automatically am less interested in your point of view because I cannot take you seriously and I cannot take you as an educated individual when you say things like "pwease." I am not trying to say I am not okay with you being a baby fur or that I am not okay with you RPing as a baby fur... what I am trying to say is that if you want me to listen to you and respect your opinions and ideas as an individual in the real world, you should stop trying to portray yourself as a child around me when I know you are not one.
9. In conjunction with number eight, please please PLEASE do not use furry/brony related replacements for words around me unless you are intentionally using them to be humorous. Words like "pawsome," "furvert," "paw off," "anypony" etc. when used in a serious context irritate the hell out of me. We don't have to butcher every word to make it exclusively furry/pony related... most of the time it sounds absolutely retarded. I want to be spoken to like an intelligent human being, so I would appreciate if you would try not to use these words around me and stick to "normal English."
10. Please keep your RP emotes to a minimum. I am not a touchy, feely individual and do not like to RP in casual conversation I hate hate hate when people touch me or act intimate with me in RP/emotes. Stuff like -hugs you- and -pets you- and whatnot really bothers me. There are very few people who I feel comfortable enough with to allow such emotes but chances are, you are not one of those people. If I have emote hugged you, it's okay to emote hug me back. But this isn't an open invitation to crawl into my lap, scritch my back, pet me, etc. If you aren't sure whether or not I would be okay with it, ASK!! The worst that could happen is that I will say "Sorry, I'm not comfortable with that" and we can move on with our conversation. I won't look at you any differently and I won't be upset at you. In fact, I'll appreciate that you took the time to find out what my comfort zone was instead of just pushing my boundaries. That being said, I do not mind emotes that communicate simple emotions - things like "-facepalms-" or "-laughs-" as they can be used much like internet acronyms and emoticons (things like LOL or :]) and can clue me in on how you feel about something we are talking about.
I know this list is long and can seem a bit over the top but please bear in mind that I am sharing these things with you to avoid conflicts or miscommunications regarding talking with me via Skype by letting you know what my boundaries and expectations are. If you continually push these boundaries, chances are, I will remove you from my Skype as it will likely make me not want to talk with you. Thank you!
NOTE: This journal used to contain my Sakura Con review but I have repurposed it to be my Skype 'rules' as I did not wish for this to appear in current feeds. All hidden comments above my pink comment were related to that journal and have been hidden due to their irrelevance to the new content. Thanks guys!
No longer relevant as I've deactivated my Skype.
Two. Thousand. Watchers.
Posted 12 years ago
mylawrex just became my 2,000th watcher. Two. THOUSANDth.
Two thousand of you guys care enough about me and my characters (or maybe just my characters) to stick around through my crazy ride here on FA and I couldn't be more thankful for each and every one of you.
I wish I had the time to get to know you all personally but even if I spent one day getting to know each of you, it would still take me five and a half years to get through you all. That being said, I read every comment and every note you guys leave for me and I appreciate each and every one of you and if you ever feel the need to say hi, please do!
You all are what make being on FA so awesome.
Thank you. Times two thousand. <3
Because I have apparently not made it clear enough...
Posted 12 years agoI DO NOT APPROVE OF ARTWORK OF ICEE ON FACEBOOK, PERIOD. I don't care if there is a comment sourcing it to me or the original artist. I don't care if you think that gets my pictures seen. I do not want it on Facebook, end of story.
Should you find artwork of Icee on Facebook, let me remind you AGAIN... please save any relevant links and note them to me here. Do NOT contact the user... do NOT harass them or threaten them... just come tell me and I will get it taken care of.
I don't understand how this is so hard to comprehend, especially when I post a big pink "DO NOT POST TO FACEBOOK" and "DO NOT USE WITHOUT MY PERMISSION" on everything I submit...
To make it even more clear for you, please reference the following list:
PLACES WHERE I DO ALLOW ART OF ICEE:
Furaffinity
Galleries on other websites (nabyn, weasyl, sofurry, etc.) belonging to the original artists
Personal websites of the original artists
PLACES WHERE I DO **NOT** ALLOW ART OF ICEE:
e621/similar image boards
Facebook
RP websites
Personal websites and galleries belonging to someone other than the original artist/myself
and just about any other website aside from those I have specifically mentioned I DO allow. If you are unsure, ASK BEFORE YOU POST.
Is it really that hard, guys?
-siiiiiigghhhh-
Should you find artwork of Icee on Facebook, let me remind you AGAIN... please save any relevant links and note them to me here. Do NOT contact the user... do NOT harass them or threaten them... just come tell me and I will get it taken care of.
I don't understand how this is so hard to comprehend, especially when I post a big pink "DO NOT POST TO FACEBOOK" and "DO NOT USE WITHOUT MY PERMISSION" on everything I submit...
To make it even more clear for you, please reference the following list:
PLACES WHERE I DO ALLOW ART OF ICEE:
Furaffinity
Galleries on other websites (nabyn, weasyl, sofurry, etc.) belonging to the original artists
Personal websites of the original artists
PLACES WHERE I DO **NOT** ALLOW ART OF ICEE:
e621/similar image boards
RP websites
Personal websites and galleries belonging to someone other than the original artist/myself
and just about any other website aside from those I have specifically mentioned I DO allow. If you are unsure, ASK BEFORE YOU POST.
Is it really that hard, guys?
-siiiiiigghhhh-
Return of the Doppleganger - Is this Icee?
Posted 13 years agoRemember the journal I made a couple weeks ago about the two accounts on Facebook using Icee? I guess this person thought they could just fix everything by making a new account again. So I felt the need to throw out a PSA here.
Yes. I am from Washington but unlike this doppleganger, I do not live in Port Orchard. I do not use Facebook anymore after the site closed down the only account I ever had there and have no plans of creating a new Facebook. If I ever changed my mind, you would all be notified here.
This is not a journal asking you to speak to this user. I have already filed a DCMA against them and Facebook will take care of it. In fact, I would prefer it if you refrained from contacting them as this creates less drama for all parties. I simply wanted to alert people that this person who continues to pop up and use artwork of Icee is not me and give you some helpful tools to know should they create another account again. Here are some tips for those left wondering whether an account on another website is really mine or not:
1. Does the user list their fetishes? If so, this is not me!
2. Does the user frequently invite people to cam chat with them or announce how bored/yiffy they are? If so, this is not me!
3. Does the user go by a moniker other than Icee, Miss Icee or Andi? If so, probably not me!
4. Does the user have a link to my FA in their account? If not, definitely not me!
5. Does the user use excessive RP chat like "-pounces on you and scruffles your tail-"? If so, not me!
6. Does the user have other very obviously stolen images in their gallery? If so, not me!!
7. Does the user have atrocious spelling/grammar? Absolutely not me!!
8. Is the user posting real life photographs of themselves? If so, most likely not me!!!
If you are ever left wondering whether an account on another site is mine or not, PLEASE do not hesitate to send me a PM here to ask me!
And I am going to remind you again - DO NOT CONTACT THIS USER.
Thanks guys <3
Yes. I am from Washington but unlike this doppleganger, I do not live in Port Orchard. I do not use Facebook anymore after the site closed down the only account I ever had there and have no plans of creating a new Facebook. If I ever changed my mind, you would all be notified here.
This is not a journal asking you to speak to this user. I have already filed a DCMA against them and Facebook will take care of it. In fact, I would prefer it if you refrained from contacting them as this creates less drama for all parties. I simply wanted to alert people that this person who continues to pop up and use artwork of Icee is not me and give you some helpful tools to know should they create another account again. Here are some tips for those left wondering whether an account on another website is really mine or not:
1. Does the user list their fetishes? If so, this is not me!
2. Does the user frequently invite people to cam chat with them or announce how bored/yiffy they are? If so, this is not me!
3. Does the user go by a moniker other than Icee, Miss Icee or Andi? If so, probably not me!
4. Does the user have a link to my FA in their account? If not, definitely not me!
5. Does the user use excessive RP chat like "-pounces on you and scruffles your tail-"? If so, not me!
6. Does the user have other very obviously stolen images in their gallery? If so, not me!!
7. Does the user have atrocious spelling/grammar? Absolutely not me!!
8. Is the user posting real life photographs of themselves? If so, most likely not me!!!
If you are ever left wondering whether an account on another site is mine or not, PLEASE do not hesitate to send me a PM here to ask me!
And I am going to remind you again - DO NOT CONTACT THIS USER.
Thanks guys <3
Regarding editing art of my characters...
Posted 13 years agoToday I came across an edited commission of Icee on e621 that had removed the clothing she had been drawn with. It was a pretty darn good edit and no, I don't mind Icee being naked anymore...
BUT
I do not condone altering artwork that I have paid for of my character without permission from both myself and the original artist no matter how good the edit is or how much I may like the edit. While I would have been more than happy to give permission in this circumstance if the original artist had approved as well, I was not to happy to see that people had edited a piece that the artist had worked hard on to complete in the manner that I had asked them to. People pay for artwork to be portrayed in a certain way and artists work very hard to draw the artwork that particular way so I feel that it is incredibly disrespectful to the artist (and the owner of the character portrayed) to go ahead and alter the artwork without permission from either. While the edit was not as offensive as changing the gender of my character, I still do not approve of editing artwork without permission.
So I requested the edits to be taken down.
If you ever want to edit artwork that belongs to me, please just ask. If the original artist and I BOTH give permission for you to do so, then you may do so. If not, please respect our wishes.If I come across artwork of my characters that has been altered without permission, no matter how good it is or how much I may enjoy the edit, I will still ask for it to be taken down on the principle that you have not respected the artist's original work nor have you respected my original intentions with the commission or my characters.
I do not find this to be an unreasonable request at all. Thanks for understanding and hopefully respecting my wishes so we can avoid this situation in the future...
BUT
I do not condone altering artwork that I have paid for of my character without permission from both myself and the original artist no matter how good the edit is or how much I may like the edit. While I would have been more than happy to give permission in this circumstance if the original artist had approved as well, I was not to happy to see that people had edited a piece that the artist had worked hard on to complete in the manner that I had asked them to. People pay for artwork to be portrayed in a certain way and artists work very hard to draw the artwork that particular way so I feel that it is incredibly disrespectful to the artist (and the owner of the character portrayed) to go ahead and alter the artwork without permission from either. While the edit was not as offensive as changing the gender of my character, I still do not approve of editing artwork without permission.
So I requested the edits to be taken down.
If you ever want to edit artwork that belongs to me, please just ask. If the original artist and I BOTH give permission for you to do so, then you may do so. If not, please respect our wishes.If I come across artwork of my characters that has been altered without permission, no matter how good it is or how much I may enjoy the edit, I will still ask for it to be taken down on the principle that you have not respected the artist's original work nor have you respected my original intentions with the commission or my characters.
I do not find this to be an unreasonable request at all. Thanks for understanding and hopefully respecting my wishes so we can avoid this situation in the future...
Regarding the Fate of Miss Icee
Posted 13 years agoAs some of you may have noticed, I have recently broken two of my former policies. The first being no porn of Icee to be posted anywhere and the second being no sexual/romantic interactions with characters other than those belonging to my fiance, Hakuga. Because these rules have been broken, I have decided now is the time to discuss the fate of Miss Icee. Please bear with me as this might be a bit long.
Lately I have felt very much that Icee has evolved beyond what anyone ever anticipated of her upon her creation. It was expected of her, when she was brought about, to be representative of particular personality traits of myself, to be my "fursona" or the character representing how I wished to be portrayed in this fandom, and to be the mate for my fiance's character Hakuga. Part of her evolution into what she is today was a conscious decision and part of it happened without anyone anticipating the route it would take.
Over the course of the year and a half that she has existed as a character, her character has been broken many times to suit a commission I wanted or a mood I desired. Where the original Icee was intended to be sour, bitter, and unfriendly, many times she has been portrayed as a happy go lucky, friendly, cute character. And of course, as everyone tends to prefer a happy camper, she was often preferred to be portrayed as cute and happy. Less and less was shown of the personality I intended for her. She started to evolve slowly over time to not only please my own need to see her in situations that might be considered abnormal for her but also to fit situations that fans of my character expected to see her in. I consider this the fault of no one but myself for allowing her to evolve in this fashion.
The change was gradual and I really didn't anticipate that she would ever evolve into a character that I felt I had little control over. She has gained her own personality and presence vastly different than what I had ever anticipated she would have. It slowly dawned on me that Miss Icee was no longer a character I felt represented me or who I wanted to portray myself as in this fandom. Hakuga also very much felt disconnected to her and found himself dismissing her as the character belonging to his own. This was disappointing for both of us... to feel like she was no longer what we had wanted her to be. I thought about selling her. I thought about retiring her and never having her drawn again... and both of these thoughts made me incredibly sad. I knew they would make fans of Icee sad as well. I couldn't honestly bear with the idea of parting with a character so loved by many... one who used to represent a part of me.
Instead I have decided to let her continue to be exactly who she is trying to be... to let her continue on this path that she almost seems to be creating for herself through how her fans envision her and how many artists portray her. She will be sexy. She will be cute. She will be loved. I have decided to let my personal attachments to her go (thus the ability to portray her in adult situations and with characters other than those belonging to my fiance) and continue ownership over her as a mere character and not as a "fursona" that represents who I wish to be viewed as.
There will still be art of Icee and she will still very much be my character. She won't ever disappear. If anything, she will thrive now that I have emotionally let go of her.
In her place, a new character will be made to represent who I wish to be portrayed as in the fandom, as a counterpart to my real self. She will share the same personality... the same history as me... There will only be two ways in which this new character and I will differ. By name and by appearance. I will not portray her in situations other than those I would portray to the public of myself. This means no lingerie pictures... no suggestive poses... no porn... no other characters other than Hakuga's. Those will be Icee's realm. I will not be moving accounts or making another account... I will still be here and will still go by Icee however I ask that you keep in mind that the character Icee is no longer anything but a character. The new design for "Andi" (as I shall call her) will, yes, be a character by principle... but I ask that you keep in mind that she is not a character at all to me so much as an anthropomorphic representation of my true self with a name I prefer to my own. I promise I will post her as soon as I have her designed in a fashion that I feel I can be happy with as a representation of me.
I hope this decision does not disappoint or upset any of my watchers and I hope that you can come to love Andi as much as many of you love Icee. I know many of you are fond of Icee and respected that she once stood for monogamy. I hope that you will all be supportive in my decision to let her exist as a character, to do things she hasn't previously done, to be who many have wished her to be and more. I hope that you can see this new character of mine as a better representation of me as a real human being on the other side of the computer screen, to see that she stands for all of the ideals I once held with Icee. I hope that you can all be happy, as I am, with the fate of Miss Icee and with the beginning of the life of Miss Andi.
<3
Lately I have felt very much that Icee has evolved beyond what anyone ever anticipated of her upon her creation. It was expected of her, when she was brought about, to be representative of particular personality traits of myself, to be my "fursona" or the character representing how I wished to be portrayed in this fandom, and to be the mate for my fiance's character Hakuga. Part of her evolution into what she is today was a conscious decision and part of it happened without anyone anticipating the route it would take.
Over the course of the year and a half that she has existed as a character, her character has been broken many times to suit a commission I wanted or a mood I desired. Where the original Icee was intended to be sour, bitter, and unfriendly, many times she has been portrayed as a happy go lucky, friendly, cute character. And of course, as everyone tends to prefer a happy camper, she was often preferred to be portrayed as cute and happy. Less and less was shown of the personality I intended for her. She started to evolve slowly over time to not only please my own need to see her in situations that might be considered abnormal for her but also to fit situations that fans of my character expected to see her in. I consider this the fault of no one but myself for allowing her to evolve in this fashion.
The change was gradual and I really didn't anticipate that she would ever evolve into a character that I felt I had little control over. She has gained her own personality and presence vastly different than what I had ever anticipated she would have. It slowly dawned on me that Miss Icee was no longer a character I felt represented me or who I wanted to portray myself as in this fandom. Hakuga also very much felt disconnected to her and found himself dismissing her as the character belonging to his own. This was disappointing for both of us... to feel like she was no longer what we had wanted her to be. I thought about selling her. I thought about retiring her and never having her drawn again... and both of these thoughts made me incredibly sad. I knew they would make fans of Icee sad as well. I couldn't honestly bear with the idea of parting with a character so loved by many... one who used to represent a part of me.
Instead I have decided to let her continue to be exactly who she is trying to be... to let her continue on this path that she almost seems to be creating for herself through how her fans envision her and how many artists portray her. She will be sexy. She will be cute. She will be loved. I have decided to let my personal attachments to her go (thus the ability to portray her in adult situations and with characters other than those belonging to my fiance) and continue ownership over her as a mere character and not as a "fursona" that represents who I wish to be viewed as.
There will still be art of Icee and she will still very much be my character. She won't ever disappear. If anything, she will thrive now that I have emotionally let go of her.
In her place, a new character will be made to represent who I wish to be portrayed as in the fandom, as a counterpart to my real self. She will share the same personality... the same history as me... There will only be two ways in which this new character and I will differ. By name and by appearance. I will not portray her in situations other than those I would portray to the public of myself. This means no lingerie pictures... no suggestive poses... no porn... no other characters other than Hakuga's. Those will be Icee's realm. I will not be moving accounts or making another account... I will still be here and will still go by Icee however I ask that you keep in mind that the character Icee is no longer anything but a character. The new design for "Andi" (as I shall call her) will, yes, be a character by principle... but I ask that you keep in mind that she is not a character at all to me so much as an anthropomorphic representation of my true self with a name I prefer to my own. I promise I will post her as soon as I have her designed in a fashion that I feel I can be happy with as a representation of me.
I hope this decision does not disappoint or upset any of my watchers and I hope that you can come to love Andi as much as many of you love Icee. I know many of you are fond of Icee and respected that she once stood for monogamy. I hope that you will all be supportive in my decision to let her exist as a character, to do things she hasn't previously done, to be who many have wished her to be and more. I hope that you can see this new character of mine as a better representation of me as a real human being on the other side of the computer screen, to see that she stands for all of the ideals I once held with Icee. I hope that you can all be happy, as I am, with the fate of Miss Icee and with the beginning of the life of Miss Andi.
<3
Addendum to my last journal...
Posted 14 years agoJust because there is some confusion going on in this journal here, I'd like to clarify. I decided to make a new journal just so those who have already peeked at my last journal won't miss this.
1. I don't RP anymore.I used to but given how relationship-centric RP seems to be these days, I don't care to involve myself in that sort of thing anymore. I also get incredibly irritated at people who Godmod or add all of these "special snowflake" abilities (like reading minds and being able to control people, etc.) that make RPing not fun and boring. So no, I don't RP.
What I was speaking to with regards to the RP issue is that a lot of furs "RP" in comments and in livestreams and direct these actions at me. I am okay with most of the non touchy stuff (e.g. "-claps excitedly over the awesome picture-") but most of these actions are invading my comfort zone (like "-licks you-") and I would like those things to stop.
and
2. I don't care if you are a baby fur and want to RP as a baby fur. I am cool with you being you. What I am not cool with is you speaking like a child to me out of character when I know you are fully capable of speaking like an adult. I know you don't speak like a baby fur at work and I'd like to hope you don't speak like a baby fur around your family and real life friends. If I was RPing with you (assuming that I RPed of course), that would be a different situation and I would be completely OK with you embodying your fursona... but when I am trying to have a conversation with you as an adult and a real life individual out of character, I expect you to talk like an adult with me. If you speak like a child, I automatically am less interested in your point of view because I cannot take you seriously and I cannot take you as an educated individual when you say things like "pwease." I am not trying to say I am not okay with you being a baby fur or that I am not okay with you RPing as a baby fur... what I am trying to say is that if you want me to listen to you and respect your opinions and ideas as an individual in the real world, you should stop trying to portray yourself as a child around me when I know you are not.
Hopefully that clarifies a few things...
1. I don't RP anymore.I used to but given how relationship-centric RP seems to be these days, I don't care to involve myself in that sort of thing anymore. I also get incredibly irritated at people who Godmod or add all of these "special snowflake" abilities (like reading minds and being able to control people, etc.) that make RPing not fun and boring. So no, I don't RP.
What I was speaking to with regards to the RP issue is that a lot of furs "RP" in comments and in livestreams and direct these actions at me. I am okay with most of the non touchy stuff (e.g. "-claps excitedly over the awesome picture-") but most of these actions are invading my comfort zone (like "-licks you-") and I would like those things to stop.
and
2. I don't care if you are a baby fur and want to RP as a baby fur. I am cool with you being you. What I am not cool with is you speaking like a child to me out of character when I know you are fully capable of speaking like an adult. I know you don't speak like a baby fur at work and I'd like to hope you don't speak like a baby fur around your family and real life friends. If I was RPing with you (assuming that I RPed of course), that would be a different situation and I would be completely OK with you embodying your fursona... but when I am trying to have a conversation with you as an adult and a real life individual out of character, I expect you to talk like an adult with me. If you speak like a child, I automatically am less interested in your point of view because I cannot take you seriously and I cannot take you as an educated individual when you say things like "pwease." I am not trying to say I am not okay with you being a baby fur or that I am not okay with you RPing as a baby fur... what I am trying to say is that if you want me to listen to you and respect your opinions and ideas as an individual in the real world, you should stop trying to portray yourself as a child around me when I know you are not.
Hopefully that clarifies a few things...
Please Stop. (Serious journal. Please read.)
Posted 14 years agoI have a couple of things that I'd really like to address so please bear with me and I would appreciate if you read all of this. It's important to me and if you care about me, should be important to you too.
1. Please do not invite yourself or hint about wanting to come to my wedding.
I appreciate that you are excited for me and want to come share that special moment with me but if I want you to be there, I will ask you to be there. Weddings are extremely expensive and as such, I am going to have to be very careful about who I select to have at my wedding. That isn't to say I wouldn't have each and every one of you come celebrate with me on our special day, but that obviously just isn't realistic. As such, I will only be able to invite family and some, but not all of, my most intimate friends. It makes me feel bad when you guys say how much you want to come to my wedding when I know that I won't be able to invite you all. And really when it comes down to it, it's simply rude to invite yourself to a party at someone else's expense. So please stop.
2. Character theft - knock it off. Here's why...
As you all know by now, I hate it when people post art of Icee on Facebook. Many of you have asked me why I care so much. It's just a picture. It's just a character. Well, Calaystia wrote a rather informative journal that pretty much summed up why this bothers me so much. Please read.
3. Chat RP, touchy feely emotes. Stop.
I've mentioned this before but I'm going to say it again just because the problem hasn't stopped. I hate hate hate when people touch me or act intimate with me in RP/emotes. Stuff like -hugs you- and -pets you- and whatnot really bothers me. There are very few people who I feel comfortable enough with to allow such emotes but chances are, you are not one of those people. If I have emote hugged you, it's okay to emote hug me back. But this isn't an open invitation to crawl into my lap, scritch my back, pet me, etc. If you aren't sure whether or not I would be okay with it, ASK!! The worst that could happen is that I will say "Sorry, I'm not comfortable with that" and we can move on with our conversation. I won't look at you any differently and I won't be upset at you. In fact, I'll appreciate that you took the time to find out what my comfort zone was instead of just pushing my boundaries.
4. Furry related words that bother me. Try not to use them around me... Also, don't talk like a babyfur around me please.
There are several words specific to this fandom that just really bug me. We don't have to butcher every word to make it exclusively furry... most of the time it sounds absolutely retarded. I want to be spoken to like an intelligent adult, so I would appreciate if you would try not to use these words around me. Also, please don't speak like a baby fur around me. I get it's part of your fursona and who you are... but acting like a child around me makes me feel like my time and attention are not worth behaving like the adult you are... I know you are capable of talking like an adult... so drop the baby speak at least just around me.
- Yiff (or any variation of, i.e. "yifftastic," "merry Yiffmas," "yiffy," etc.)
- Pawsome (please guys.. just use awesome. Pawsome sounds so... retarded)
- Fursecution
- Furvert
- Paw off
- Pretty much any originally "normal" word or phrase butchered by replacing part of it with "fur," "paw," etc.
EDIT!~ I've clarified up a couple of confusions here
Thanks so much for taking the time to read (or at least skim) this. <3 Anyway I'm back from my holidays and my desktop should be back here tomorrow so more art and Second Life to come! Hope you guys had a wonderful holiday too!
1. Please do not invite yourself or hint about wanting to come to my wedding.
I appreciate that you are excited for me and want to come share that special moment with me but if I want you to be there, I will ask you to be there. Weddings are extremely expensive and as such, I am going to have to be very careful about who I select to have at my wedding. That isn't to say I wouldn't have each and every one of you come celebrate with me on our special day, but that obviously just isn't realistic. As such, I will only be able to invite family and some, but not all of, my most intimate friends. It makes me feel bad when you guys say how much you want to come to my wedding when I know that I won't be able to invite you all. And really when it comes down to it, it's simply rude to invite yourself to a party at someone else's expense. So please stop.
2. Character theft - knock it off. Here's why...
As you all know by now, I hate it when people post art of Icee on Facebook. Many of you have asked me why I care so much. It's just a picture. It's just a character. Well, Calaystia wrote a rather informative journal that pretty much summed up why this bothers me so much. Please read.
3. Chat RP, touchy feely emotes. Stop.
I've mentioned this before but I'm going to say it again just because the problem hasn't stopped. I hate hate hate when people touch me or act intimate with me in RP/emotes. Stuff like -hugs you- and -pets you- and whatnot really bothers me. There are very few people who I feel comfortable enough with to allow such emotes but chances are, you are not one of those people. If I have emote hugged you, it's okay to emote hug me back. But this isn't an open invitation to crawl into my lap, scritch my back, pet me, etc. If you aren't sure whether or not I would be okay with it, ASK!! The worst that could happen is that I will say "Sorry, I'm not comfortable with that" and we can move on with our conversation. I won't look at you any differently and I won't be upset at you. In fact, I'll appreciate that you took the time to find out what my comfort zone was instead of just pushing my boundaries.
4. Furry related words that bother me. Try not to use them around me... Also, don't talk like a babyfur around me please.
There are several words specific to this fandom that just really bug me. We don't have to butcher every word to make it exclusively furry... most of the time it sounds absolutely retarded. I want to be spoken to like an intelligent adult, so I would appreciate if you would try not to use these words around me. Also, please don't speak like a baby fur around me. I get it's part of your fursona and who you are... but acting like a child around me makes me feel like my time and attention are not worth behaving like the adult you are... I know you are capable of talking like an adult... so drop the baby speak at least just around me.
- Yiff (or any variation of, i.e. "yifftastic," "merry Yiffmas," "yiffy," etc.)
- Pawsome (please guys.. just use awesome. Pawsome sounds so... retarded)
- Fursecution
- Furvert
- Paw off
- Pretty much any originally "normal" word or phrase butchered by replacing part of it with "fur," "paw," etc.
EDIT!~ I've clarified up a couple of confusions here
Thanks so much for taking the time to read (or at least skim) this. <3 Anyway I'm back from my holidays and my desktop should be back here tomorrow so more art and Second Life to come! Hope you guys had a wonderful holiday too!
CONTEST WINNERS!
Posted 14 years agoThanks to everyone who entered my contest! Those who never got numbers assigned missed the special catch detailed right after the form that said you needed to put your favorite icee flavor in the subject line of your first comment. BUT I rolled for two extra prizes tonight and EVERYONE who entered the contest was considered for one of the bonus prizes (because I'm nice like that). To those who didn't get numbers, READ MORE CAREFULLY next time <3 It shows me y'all aren't spazzing just because I'm giving away free stuff (which is why I put that catch in there in the first place.) There were 38 total entries, 22 of which qualified for the three grand prizes by telling me their favorite icee flavors.
I streamed the results for everyone to see and these were the lucky winners:
The first place winner (for the art paid for by me):
chibisilverwings
The second place winner (for the hat):
drofgod969
The third place winner (the 5 page story):
lockness
I rolled for two special prizes that were not mentioned in the contest.
Special prize number 1 included EVERYONE (even the people who missed the special catch) and was for 1 handmade sketchbook made by me. The winner of this prize was
markusblade212
Special prize number 2 included ONLY THOSE WHO ATTENDED THE STREAM and was for a batch of hand baked cookies made by me and the lucky winner of this prize was
triple-shot
I will be noting all of the winners later tonight with instructions on how to collect their prizes!
Congratulations to everyone who won! Make sure to stay tuned!Once I finish these prizes, I will be auctioning off more handmade sketchbooks and more hats so make sure you look out for those journals!
I kept a list of every artist you guys suggested I commission and will be going through their galleries at some point (if I haven't already) and if I like what I see, you might be seeing some Icee art from them in the future!
Thanks to everyone who entered and again thank you very much to all of my watchers and fans! I love you all :D
<3 <3 <3
I streamed the results for everyone to see and these were the lucky winners:
The first place winner (for the art paid for by me):
chibisilverwingsThe second place winner (for the hat):
drofgod969The third place winner (the 5 page story):
locknessI rolled for two special prizes that were not mentioned in the contest.
Special prize number 1 included EVERYONE (even the people who missed the special catch) and was for 1 handmade sketchbook made by me. The winner of this prize was
markusblade212Special prize number 2 included ONLY THOSE WHO ATTENDED THE STREAM and was for a batch of hand baked cookies made by me and the lucky winner of this prize was
triple-shotI will be noting all of the winners later tonight with instructions on how to collect their prizes!
Congratulations to everyone who won! Make sure to stay tuned!Once I finish these prizes, I will be auctioning off more handmade sketchbooks and more hats so make sure you look out for those journals!
I kept a list of every artist you guys suggested I commission and will be going through their galleries at some point (if I haven't already) and if I like what I see, you might be seeing some Icee art from them in the future!
Thanks to everyone who entered and again thank you very much to all of my watchers and fans! I love you all :D
<3 <3 <3
To All of My Fans and Watchers (Contest inside!)
Posted 14 years agoLately, I've been receiving a lot of comments and messages that fall along the lines of "I am so honored to have someone of your stature in my stream" or "I'm actually very honored for you even to comment on some of my stuff"
It comes off as a bit of a surprise to me as a lot of people have been acting as if I am some sort of noble furry goddess. I know I've become rather well known around FA due to the business I have given a lot of great artists but really guys... I am just a person behind a computer, same as you! There is no need to put me up on a pedestal and act honored to have my attention! You are all every bit equally worthy of my time and while I may not be able to give everyone as much attention as I would like to, I do appreciate every one of you.
As I have mentioned before, if you would like me to check out something in particular you drew, would like me to give you advice or a critique, want me to attend a stream, chat, whatever, just note me and I will do my best to give you my undivided attention!
I especially wanted to take the time to thank all of you for being incredibly helpful in dealing with all of the art thefts I have encountered on Facebook. I know it must get incredibly annoying to have me keep posting journals about people who have stolen art of Icee but I am really forever grateful for your help in getting it reported and taken down. It means a lot to me that so many of you would step in and give me a moment of your time for such a favor <3
To show my eternal thanks for all of you for the favorites, the watches, the comments, the help, and the friendship I have decided to host a watcher appreciation contest. Everyone who is watching me is eligible to enter this contest. I cannot give away any more art as I still have quite the list to get through but I do have some fantastic prizes for everyone!
So what are the prizes for this contest?
The first place winner will have an opportunity to be in a commission with any of my characters by an artist of your choice valued up to $150 paid for entirely by me. The commission may not be sexual or romantic in nature. The winner and I will discuss the subject matter together and find something we would both enjoy to be drawn doing together!
The second place winner will be offered the chance to have one of their characters turned into a winter hat made by yours truly. Here is an example (and yes, that is me!) They will have the option of having their character name embroidered inside the hat and may discuss additional personalization options with me. This prize is valued at $75. It will be completed likely sometime in December or January.
The third place winner will receive a five to ten page story written by me about one of my characters and up to two of their characters. The theme of the story will be selected by the winner but again, it may not be sexual or romantic in nature. It will be completed likely sometime in December or January.
Those sound pretty awesome! How do I enter your contest, Icee?
In order to enter the contest, you must be watching me! This is a watcher appreciation contest after all. Beyond that, please fill out the form below:
Name:
How you found me:
Why do you watch me?:
Who is one artist you think I should commission and why?:
These questions really won't pertain at all to your prize but help give me some handy information about what my watchers might like to see in the future! Please make sure to put your favorite icee flavor in the subject line so I know you actually read this! It must be included on the first message for your entry to be considered.
So how are you going to pick a winner?
Everyone who submits the form correctly will be assigned a number. I will be using a random number generator to pick the winners and I will be streaming this so people will know that it was indeed truly random.
When do we need to submit the form by?
I will be picking winners on Friday, October 21st at 5PM central time. I will post a link to my stream at this time and anyone who wants to watch me pick the winner will be able to attend the stream. This gives you approximately TWO DAYS to complete this form!
Good luck to everyone who enters and thank you greatly for showing me nothing but support and love. You all make being in this fandom so worth it!
It comes off as a bit of a surprise to me as a lot of people have been acting as if I am some sort of noble furry goddess. I know I've become rather well known around FA due to the business I have given a lot of great artists but really guys... I am just a person behind a computer, same as you! There is no need to put me up on a pedestal and act honored to have my attention! You are all every bit equally worthy of my time and while I may not be able to give everyone as much attention as I would like to, I do appreciate every one of you.
As I have mentioned before, if you would like me to check out something in particular you drew, would like me to give you advice or a critique, want me to attend a stream, chat, whatever, just note me and I will do my best to give you my undivided attention!
I especially wanted to take the time to thank all of you for being incredibly helpful in dealing with all of the art thefts I have encountered on Facebook. I know it must get incredibly annoying to have me keep posting journals about people who have stolen art of Icee but I am really forever grateful for your help in getting it reported and taken down. It means a lot to me that so many of you would step in and give me a moment of your time for such a favor <3
To show my eternal thanks for all of you for the favorites, the watches, the comments, the help, and the friendship I have decided to host a watcher appreciation contest. Everyone who is watching me is eligible to enter this contest. I cannot give away any more art as I still have quite the list to get through but I do have some fantastic prizes for everyone!
So what are the prizes for this contest?
The first place winner will have an opportunity to be in a commission with any of my characters by an artist of your choice valued up to $150 paid for entirely by me. The commission may not be sexual or romantic in nature. The winner and I will discuss the subject matter together and find something we would both enjoy to be drawn doing together!
The second place winner will be offered the chance to have one of their characters turned into a winter hat made by yours truly. Here is an example (and yes, that is me!) They will have the option of having their character name embroidered inside the hat and may discuss additional personalization options with me. This prize is valued at $75. It will be completed likely sometime in December or January.
The third place winner will receive a five to ten page story written by me about one of my characters and up to two of their characters. The theme of the story will be selected by the winner but again, it may not be sexual or romantic in nature. It will be completed likely sometime in December or January.
Those sound pretty awesome! How do I enter your contest, Icee?
In order to enter the contest, you must be watching me! This is a watcher appreciation contest after all. Beyond that, please fill out the form below:
Name:
How you found me:
Why do you watch me?:
Who is one artist you think I should commission and why?:
These questions really won't pertain at all to your prize but help give me some handy information about what my watchers might like to see in the future! Please make sure to put your favorite icee flavor in the subject line so I know you actually read this! It must be included on the first message for your entry to be considered.
So how are you going to pick a winner?
Everyone who submits the form correctly will be assigned a number. I will be using a random number generator to pick the winners and I will be streaming this so people will know that it was indeed truly random.
When do we need to submit the form by?
I will be picking winners on Friday, October 21st at 5PM central time. I will post a link to my stream at this time and anyone who wants to watch me pick the winner will be able to attend the stream. This gives you approximately TWO DAYS to complete this form!
Good luck to everyone who enters and thank you greatly for showing me nothing but support and love. You all make being in this fandom so worth it!
For My Personal Reference [PLEASE IGNORE!]
Posted 14 years agoBecause the old journal was starting to get seriously buried... these are all the commissions I'm waiting on... Ordered from earliest to most recent.
1.
pomander - sketch session (PAID)
2.
niis - 1 auction piece (PAID)
3.
wolf-nymph - full color piece (PAID) - MARCH 15, 2011
4.
pirate-cashoo - hi res (PAID) - NOVEMBER, 2011
5.
uglylilmonster - Badge (PAID)
6.
synthariadesire - ref sheet for mirrikh and two character piece (PAID)
Offers: Wedding gift from
thejeweledhorn , wedding gift from triple-shot
1.
pomander - sketch session (PAID)2.
niis - 1 auction piece (PAID)3.
wolf-nymph - full color piece (PAID) - MARCH 15, 20114.
pirate-cashoo - hi res (PAID) - NOVEMBER, 20115.
uglylilmonster - Badge (PAID)6.
synthariadesire - ref sheet for mirrikh and two character piece (PAID)Offers: Wedding gift from
thejeweledhorn , wedding gift from triple-shotI need to address this...
Posted 14 years agoas it's starting to happen more and more frequently.
Icee is not a touchy person.
Just like I don't like people I don't know or don't know very well touching me in real life, I don't like people emote touching me either. Stuff like " *huggles you*" or "*licks your nose*" makes me feel incredibly uncomfortable. I am NEVER okay with licking emotes or "nose beep" emotes. That to me is something that only my boyfriend should have the right to (and yes, I know for animals it holds an entirely different meaning... but I'm not an animal and actions like that to me are very intimate and personal.)
There are a very VERY few select people (niis and pinstripedtiger are two who come to mind) who I'm cool with the hugging emotes from because I know them very well and feel very comfortable around them. If I have emoted a hug with you before, you are OK to emote a hug back to me. If you aren't sure as to whether I would feel comfortable with you emoting stuff like that to me, ASK!!
If I'm not cool with emotes from you, chances are I've just ignored it or will try to continue ignoring it because I know it is something most furs do as a friendly "You're cool!" sort of deal and I feel mean asking you to knock it off... but please know it makes me feel really really awkward and uncomfortable and if anything, it makes me not want to talk to you.
As one last addendum, I don't give a fuck who you are or how long I've known you... it is NEVER EVER EVER okay to send me "yiffy" emotes. Never.
Icee is not a touchy person.
Just like I don't like people I don't know or don't know very well touching me in real life, I don't like people emote touching me either. Stuff like " *huggles you*" or "*licks your nose*" makes me feel incredibly uncomfortable. I am NEVER okay with licking emotes or "nose beep" emotes. That to me is something that only my boyfriend should have the right to (and yes, I know for animals it holds an entirely different meaning... but I'm not an animal and actions like that to me are very intimate and personal.)
There are a very VERY few select people (niis and pinstripedtiger are two who come to mind) who I'm cool with the hugging emotes from because I know them very well and feel very comfortable around them. If I have emoted a hug with you before, you are OK to emote a hug back to me. If you aren't sure as to whether I would feel comfortable with you emoting stuff like that to me, ASK!!
If I'm not cool with emotes from you, chances are I've just ignored it or will try to continue ignoring it because I know it is something most furs do as a friendly "You're cool!" sort of deal and I feel mean asking you to knock it off... but please know it makes me feel really really awkward and uncomfortable and if anything, it makes me not want to talk to you.
As one last addendum, I don't give a fuck who you are or how long I've known you... it is NEVER EVER EVER okay to send me "yiffy" emotes. Never.
... I can't believe some people.
Posted 14 years agoCopy pasta'd from Facebook.
Random Furry: Do you make fursuits or have any old ones you wanna give away?
Me: I've just worked on my own, sorry.
RF: Would u be willing to make another?
Me: I honestly don't have the time. Sorry hun.
RF: ... See ive been all over the internet trying to find someone to help me. Im broke as hell. Not 1 penny. & i want a fursuit.. Even an old partial would be nice.
Me: Well find some work to make money?
RF: ... I live in a small town. & noones hiring.
Me: well you could always make and sell crafts or babysit or help people out with cleaning/yardwork
fursuits aren't cheap to make so you're gonna be hard pressed to find something for free or really cheap
I know there are a few up on furbuy for $50-150 auction price but you're honestly really not going to find anything cheaper than that and most of them are poor quality
honestly that's why I decided to build my own... because it would be the cheapest I could get but still ensure that the quality was great
RF: ... I cant make them.. I cant even make s shirt
Me: well practice!
I know a lot of sewing stores have classes to teach people how to sew
and there are a lot of great tutorials online
RF: The online stuff confusing..
Me: well I dunno what to tell you hun. People aren't just gonna hand over free stuff because you can't afford it and don't want to work for it :/:/
when I don't get something, I send notes to fursuit makers I admire and ask for their advice
and usually they're pretty good about responding and helping
RF: Not rly.. Ive asked EVERYONE not 1 person is willing to help
Me: I think you're asking the wrong way hun
What exactly are you asking them?
RF: if they have any old fursuits they dont want, or have time to make me one for free
Me: nobody is going to respond to that hun
fursuits cost a lot of money so nobody is going to just give them up for free
and nobody has time to work for free
people have to make a living
what you need to do hun is either get a job and get the money to pay someone.... or try to make your own
RF: i realize that... but at least its worth asking.
Me: if you dont understand the tutorial
send a message to the person who made it and ask them if they can clarify the confusing parts for you
RF: yeah but.. i still dont understand
Me: Okay how about you find some tutorials you dont understand and message them to me and I will try to help you understand
because it's really not that hard
RF: even if i did understand i could make them still. im only talented in 2d art. not 3d
Me: See this is another "I can't" that is stopping you. Sure you may not be great at it the first few tries.... but everyone who is awesome at it only got there by lots and lots of practice.
RF: .... Still if i bought the material id be wasting it, just trying to make one
Me: So practice on cheap stuff. Use old T shirts instead of fur until you get it right.
RF: i barely have any shirts to begin with.
Me: So use old bed sheets?
RF: ... Dont have any
Me: Wow okay. All I'm trying to do is help you make a cheap fursuit and all you're doing is shooting down my every suggestion. NOBODY is going to give you a suit for free. So how about you stop whining about not having one, stop pestering people for free suits and either get a job to get money to buy one or actually take the advice of someone who is trying to help you make one... I'm trying to be nice and go out of my way to help you out but it looks like you just want people to hand everything to you... nobody is going to hand you the things you want in life. You have to WORK for them.
Good luck trying to get your free fursuit at the expense of others. I'm done wasting my time trying to help you.
I probably got a bit mean at the end but I get really sick of trying to help people and having them literally slam down every suggestion I make with "I can't" or "I don't" or "I won't." Apparently she's been pestering other people on facebook too and told one of them that she would start prostituting to get a suit... WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH SOME PEOPLE?
Random Furry: Do you make fursuits or have any old ones you wanna give away?
Me: I've just worked on my own, sorry.
RF: Would u be willing to make another?
Me: I honestly don't have the time. Sorry hun.
RF: ... See ive been all over the internet trying to find someone to help me. Im broke as hell. Not 1 penny. & i want a fursuit.. Even an old partial would be nice.
Me: Well find some work to make money?
RF: ... I live in a small town. & noones hiring.
Me: well you could always make and sell crafts or babysit or help people out with cleaning/yardwork
fursuits aren't cheap to make so you're gonna be hard pressed to find something for free or really cheap
I know there are a few up on furbuy for $50-150 auction price but you're honestly really not going to find anything cheaper than that and most of them are poor quality
honestly that's why I decided to build my own... because it would be the cheapest I could get but still ensure that the quality was great
RF: ... I cant make them.. I cant even make s shirt
Me: well practice!
I know a lot of sewing stores have classes to teach people how to sew
and there are a lot of great tutorials online
RF: The online stuff confusing..
Me: well I dunno what to tell you hun. People aren't just gonna hand over free stuff because you can't afford it and don't want to work for it :/:/
when I don't get something, I send notes to fursuit makers I admire and ask for their advice
and usually they're pretty good about responding and helping
RF: Not rly.. Ive asked EVERYONE not 1 person is willing to help
Me: I think you're asking the wrong way hun
What exactly are you asking them?
RF: if they have any old fursuits they dont want, or have time to make me one for free
Me: nobody is going to respond to that hun
fursuits cost a lot of money so nobody is going to just give them up for free
and nobody has time to work for free
people have to make a living
what you need to do hun is either get a job and get the money to pay someone.... or try to make your own
RF: i realize that... but at least its worth asking.
Me: if you dont understand the tutorial
send a message to the person who made it and ask them if they can clarify the confusing parts for you
RF: yeah but.. i still dont understand
Me: Okay how about you find some tutorials you dont understand and message them to me and I will try to help you understand
because it's really not that hard
RF: even if i did understand i could make them still. im only talented in 2d art. not 3d
Me: See this is another "I can't" that is stopping you. Sure you may not be great at it the first few tries.... but everyone who is awesome at it only got there by lots and lots of practice.
RF: .... Still if i bought the material id be wasting it, just trying to make one
Me: So practice on cheap stuff. Use old T shirts instead of fur until you get it right.
RF: i barely have any shirts to begin with.
Me: So use old bed sheets?
RF: ... Dont have any
Me: Wow okay. All I'm trying to do is help you make a cheap fursuit and all you're doing is shooting down my every suggestion. NOBODY is going to give you a suit for free. So how about you stop whining about not having one, stop pestering people for free suits and either get a job to get money to buy one or actually take the advice of someone who is trying to help you make one... I'm trying to be nice and go out of my way to help you out but it looks like you just want people to hand everything to you... nobody is going to hand you the things you want in life. You have to WORK for them.
Good luck trying to get your free fursuit at the expense of others. I'm done wasting my time trying to help you.
I probably got a bit mean at the end but I get really sick of trying to help people and having them literally slam down every suggestion I make with "I can't" or "I don't" or "I won't." Apparently she's been pestering other people on facebook too and told one of them that she would start prostituting to get a suit... WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH SOME PEOPLE?
FURRIES! THERE IS AN ILLNESS RAMPANT AMONG US!
Posted 14 years agoIt's called.... FREEBRAGE.
It is possible you might have it!!
Look out for these key symptoms: a mislead sense of self importance, irrational feelings about entitlement to ALL TEH ARTS, feelings like the world will end if you don't get ALL TEH ARTS, and a need to lash out at anyone who gets free arts when you dont/the artist who did not give you teh free arts you are of course obvi for sure desu desu entitled to.
If you feel you may be suffering one or more of these symptoms, please seek help IMMEDIATELY... and by seek help I mean step off that self-righteous stool of entitlement and self importance and GET A LIFE.
FREEBRAGE is a very serious condition and often results in a downward spiral leading to death or worse - the banhammer and being ostracized by your community.
Fortunately FREEBRAGE is not contagious... however many weak willed furries have known to be susceptible when in the presence of someone who has FREEBRAGE.
It is a curable illness so if you have it, DON'T WORRY! There is medication to help you! RAEG-B-GONE can be prescribed by a real doctor (
dipper, PhD.) to help alleviate your symptoms and cure you of the disease. Side effects are mild paralysis, twitching, a sense of hopelessness, and diarrhea BUT at least your friends won't think you're an asshole anymore! Not to mention, scat is also a legitimate fetish!
Now that you have been educated about FREEBRAGE, spread the information. Awareness is power, people.
Original scientific research on FREEBRAGE published by
icee
It is possible you might have it!!
Look out for these key symptoms: a mislead sense of self importance, irrational feelings about entitlement to ALL TEH ARTS, feelings like the world will end if you don't get ALL TEH ARTS, and a need to lash out at anyone who gets free arts when you dont/the artist who did not give you teh free arts you are of course obvi for sure desu desu entitled to.
If you feel you may be suffering one or more of these symptoms, please seek help IMMEDIATELY... and by seek help I mean step off that self-righteous stool of entitlement and self importance and GET A LIFE.
FREEBRAGE is a very serious condition and often results in a downward spiral leading to death or worse - the banhammer and being ostracized by your community.
Fortunately FREEBRAGE is not contagious... however many weak willed furries have known to be susceptible when in the presence of someone who has FREEBRAGE.
It is a curable illness so if you have it, DON'T WORRY! There is medication to help you! RAEG-B-GONE can be prescribed by a real doctor (
dipper, PhD.) to help alleviate your symptoms and cure you of the disease. Side effects are mild paralysis, twitching, a sense of hopelessness, and diarrhea BUT at least your friends won't think you're an asshole anymore! Not to mention, scat is also a legitimate fetish! Now that you have been educated about FREEBRAGE, spread the information. Awareness is power, people.
Original scientific research on FREEBRAGE published by
iceeIcee's Iron Artist!!
Posted 14 years agoI have decided to start up an iron artist in attempt to get better at drawing, get used to using a tablet, and hopefully begin to develop my own style. Now before everyone gets super excited, this isn't open to everyone. I have decided to show my appreciation for everyone who has shown me a little love! Anyone who has ever drawn free art for me is invited to be a part of my Iron Artist. I've made a list of everyone and am going to do the best I can to give each person something of equal value to what they drew for me. If your name is not on the list below and you feel it should be, please send me a note reminding me what you drew for me and I will make sure your name gets on this list. Please note that those who were a part of my 10 Free Sketches journal and drew something for me in exchange are not eligible for this Iron Artist as I've already drawn something for them for free. Also please note this is not a trade. If you draw free art for me beyond this date, you are not entitled to a spot.
You do not have to participate if your name is on the list. Please keep in mind it is probably going to take me quite some time to get through everyone and I am by no means practiced with using a tablet/digital art.
This is open only to those who have given me free art. This will not cost you anything. You already paid for it with the art you drew for me. If you would like to be a part of my Iron Artist, please comment below with a reference image and any other information needed (i.e. an expression suggestion for a headshot or a pose suggestion for a full body image.) NOTE: I am not opposed to nude/adult art but I will NOT draw scat, gore, or cub. There may be a few other things I’ve forgotten to add to that list so bear with me. I will draw these out in the order that they are received.
Should I decide to open for commissions during this stretch of my Iron Artist, those will take priority so please be aware of that. Also please note that this is a GIFT. Much like the free art you all have done for me, you are not entitled to these so please do not send me notes asking if I’ve gotten to you yet or how much longer it will take.
Click Here for the Queue
The List of in Queue
Onissarle - Full Body Color
goldfischen - Knee Up Sketch
Amun – Full Body Sketch
Sdark391 – Couples Full Body Sketch
MissOro – Waist Up Color
Wienerdog – Feral Color
AnniePopokios – Full Body Color
Kri – Two Full Body Sketches
Kaiizree – Waist Up Color
inpu-ankh - Full Body Color
CaseyLJones – Bust Sketch
SynthariaDesire – Icon Color
Porin – Waist Up Color
Hiddenwolf – Waist Up Sketch, Bust Sketch
TheSearchForLostWings – Two Full Body Color
ErinKitty – Waist Up Color
Charu – Chibi Color
Radio-Gaz – Badge Color, Full Body Sketch
ThatDamnGoat – Waist Up Sketch
FulgensCat95- Icon
Ritsuka-Kun25 – Full Body Color
You do not have to participate if your name is on the list. Please keep in mind it is probably going to take me quite some time to get through everyone and I am by no means practiced with using a tablet/digital art.
This is open only to those who have given me free art. This will not cost you anything. You already paid for it with the art you drew for me. If you would like to be a part of my Iron Artist, please comment below with a reference image and any other information needed (i.e. an expression suggestion for a headshot or a pose suggestion for a full body image.) NOTE: I am not opposed to nude/adult art but I will NOT draw scat, gore, or cub. There may be a few other things I’ve forgotten to add to that list so bear with me. I will draw these out in the order that they are received.
Should I decide to open for commissions during this stretch of my Iron Artist, those will take priority so please be aware of that. Also please note that this is a GIFT. Much like the free art you all have done for me, you are not entitled to these so please do not send me notes asking if I’ve gotten to you yet or how much longer it will take.
Click Here for the Queue
The List of in Queue
Onissarle - Full Body Color
goldfischen - Knee Up Sketch
Amun – Full Body Sketch
Sdark391 – Couples Full Body Sketch
MissOro – Waist Up Color
Wienerdog – Feral Color
AnniePopokios – Full Body Color
Kri – Two Full Body Sketches
Kaiizree – Waist Up Color
inpu-ankh - Full Body Color
CaseyLJones – Bust Sketch SynthariaDesire – Icon Color
Porin – Waist Up Color
Hiddenwolf – Waist Up Sketch, Bust Sketch
TheSearchForLostWings – Two Full Body Color
ErinKitty – Waist Up Color
Charu – Chibi Color
Radio-Gaz – Badge Color, Full Body Sketch
ThatDamnGoat – Waist Up Sketch
FulgensCat95- Icon
Ritsuka-Kun25 – Full Body Color
