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"We found out he was human."
16 years ago
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Kyoo no tema wa kore desu....
Today I was looking at a sketch that I made ages ago: It's an arm & fist coming out of a computer monitor & punching me in my copious gut. I've fiddled with it from time to time, but always I end up putting it away for being too emo.
It was a kneejerk reaction to a comment made by an artist I greatly admire. I loved his webcomic, and I also loved how he shared his process. His site was both highly entertaining & very educational for me. I am paraphrasing, but he said that he didn't start a webcomic just so fat girls would call out his name at a con.
About a year ago, an artist I admire made several disparaging remarks about 'fatties.' Earlier this year, another artist who I think excels in depicting larger women, made a comment about how those were just the kind of commissions he/she gets & how on earth could anyone find someone like that attractive. And just the other day, yet another artist whose work I enjoy was more or less eliciting approval in approaching fat people & saying rude things "for their own good."
Each time, there was that icy-cold feeling of shock. It did for a brief time feel like I've taken a left hook to the gut. But then I have to wonder, why? Why should negative fat remarks from artists shock me any more than those same remarks from anyone else?
Having been rotund for quite a few years, I'm no stranger to disparaging words. It goes with the territory. While I'm unapologetic for my size, I also don't have any delusions-- the majority of people find my size unattractive, even disgusting. Everyone has their own turn-ons and turn-offs. So why should the comments of artists bother me, especially since it's nothing I haven't already heard before?
I think it has to do with this sappy dream of being able to sit down with artists & do an art-jam session. We're not being best buddies or yakking like old friends or saying how much we love each other, nothing insipid like that. We're just sitting down & sharing something we both enjoy with each other.
And I suppose that with every "fat people suck" comment one of them makes, it's the realization that here is one artist who wouldn't do it -- not because they think my art sucks, not because they're anti-social in general, but because they wouldn't want to share a room with someone committing the crime of being fat in public.
Because of this silly fantasy of mine, I've been expecting artists to have a higher level of acceptance of my build than everyone else. And that's really not fair. Artists are human, too.
But, I completed that emo drawing today.
What the hell.
Free arts to the first person who gets the title reference.
HINT: BEATLES
Here's another hint: John Lennon said it
Regular restrictions apply: you'll get what you get when you get it.
It was a kneejerk reaction to a comment made by an artist I greatly admire. I loved his webcomic, and I also loved how he shared his process. His site was both highly entertaining & very educational for me. I am paraphrasing, but he said that he didn't start a webcomic just so fat girls would call out his name at a con.
About a year ago, an artist I admire made several disparaging remarks about 'fatties.' Earlier this year, another artist who I think excels in depicting larger women, made a comment about how those were just the kind of commissions he/she gets & how on earth could anyone find someone like that attractive. And just the other day, yet another artist whose work I enjoy was more or less eliciting approval in approaching fat people & saying rude things "for their own good."
Each time, there was that icy-cold feeling of shock. It did for a brief time feel like I've taken a left hook to the gut. But then I have to wonder, why? Why should negative fat remarks from artists shock me any more than those same remarks from anyone else?
Having been rotund for quite a few years, I'm no stranger to disparaging words. It goes with the territory. While I'm unapologetic for my size, I also don't have any delusions-- the majority of people find my size unattractive, even disgusting. Everyone has their own turn-ons and turn-offs. So why should the comments of artists bother me, especially since it's nothing I haven't already heard before?
I think it has to do with this sappy dream of being able to sit down with artists & do an art-jam session. We're not being best buddies or yakking like old friends or saying how much we love each other, nothing insipid like that. We're just sitting down & sharing something we both enjoy with each other.
And I suppose that with every "fat people suck" comment one of them makes, it's the realization that here is one artist who wouldn't do it -- not because they think my art sucks, not because they're anti-social in general, but because they wouldn't want to share a room with someone committing the crime of being fat in public.
Because of this silly fantasy of mine, I've been expecting artists to have a higher level of acceptance of my build than everyone else. And that's really not fair. Artists are human, too.
But, I completed that emo drawing today.
What the hell.
Free arts to the first person who gets the title reference.
HINT: BEATLES
Here's another hint: John Lennon said it
Regular restrictions apply: you'll get what you get when you get it.
Tangent
FUCK! Isn't that why we're in the fandom? No, not for the fucking, for the common interest. Furrys tend to be all open-mined and "I want to snuggle everyone... except for that Christian, and that griffin, OH NOES! A Republican! -_- We just have to add to the list don't do we.
Well, in other news. w00t pudge pride!!
My mind is running too fast right now, might be able to spit up a better comment later... >.>
~Your Spazz-tastic Dakota
Having said that, I appreciate the support. ::hugs!::
Now if you'll excuse me, I here tell there's a Republican in these here parts.
::dons a pith helmet & brandishes a thwack-em stick.::
(this is a joke, people [kind of sad I have to clarify that, eh wot?])
I am....kind of chubby yes >__> But I still has feelings DX
I think that is a rather rude statement to make 8( I guess it would be like a punch in the gut. >__> Some people are cruel and don't realize it.
What's the problem with wanting to share a common interest? Isn't that what we're here for? The artworks? :3 If people were all the same size, well....that would be pretty boring ya know >__>
Sadly, more recently, I've found myself doing much of the same to people I meet. I find it hard not to look down on liars, dopers, and thieves. ^.^
I still think that your stature is merely a side effect of how full of awesome you are. I don't think your abundance of kindness and your winning personality could fit in a smaller frame, and Skunk and I very much miss it.
*moogle hugs* ^.^ (and maybe a quick fondle for good measure >.>)
Ryo: What is it now Hoshi you have been acting strange sense your fight? I knew I was but this was real now.
You: Anubis I can feel him coming but something is different I feel only darkest now when the last time I fought him I felt something pure but confused. I knew they were confused now but that is the feeling I got from him that last time.
Rowen: You know that last time we fought with him I broke his mask in two and we found out he was human. I nod as the sound got closer.
From A Ronin Rose: Chapter 15
::hugs::
Hint above.
As for art-jams...why wouldn't you attend one? The ones I go to (when I get a chance to, at Conventions) have artists of all weights (from the emaciated-thin to the very-heavy) attending them.
::goes into fan-girl 'eeeee' mode::
The truth is, sex appeal-- the conventional form of it-- is a totally irrational influence on people's behavior. And because it's irrational and fairly immediate to the sentiments, people just don't handle it the way they would more ordinary situations, scraping by with the half-assed, unreflective ethics and in the absence of decent manners (which are otherwise unecessary, but traditional exacly because the world is full of irrational influences and shallow people).
And aside from it (the influence of sex appeal) being a completely irrational and indigestible part of life, there's also the fact that culture stresses it as one of the few sources of self-worth-- really, and sadly, lots of folks like that realize on some level how little they have to offer by any standard of their own, except possibly that they're decent looking. Which -- rightly -- makes them fucking insecure.
I believe the term is narcissism. Thank you, I reinvent the wheel all the time.
People are disappointing.
I got all introspective & realized I more or less expected artists to be more accepting than everyone else in the world---which is both unfair & irrational.
I'm sure I've got my own personal bugaboos that may hurt people who enjoy my own stuff. :/ Can't stand to hug someone with poor personal hygiene, for example (I make the rare exception, such as :iconDakotahwolficon *)
And you don't re-invent the wheel, so much as create much-needed improvements upon it. ^_~
*DAKOTAH I'M TEASING YOU BECAUSE I KNOW YOU CAN TAKE IT.
I'LL NEVER BALK FROM HUGGING EVERY FOUL REEKING CRUSTY INCH OF YOU, HONEST. COME BAAAAAAACK! AUNTIE KWAN MISSES YOOOOU!
you don't like how some dresses? get over it!
I recently saw an article online whining that fat people in furfandom ruined cool by: wearing fedoras, aviator's sun glasses, and Drover coats. Who THE FUCK cares what folks like this think!
Self Centered pissant worthless motherfuckers can't accept that THEY are NOT the center of the FUCKING UNIVERSE! I have a fist available to anyone who argues this.
Forget those fuckers. Tell them they are shit for even thinking shit like that.
Cockmonglers, the brain is the sexiest organ hands down, and if you don't agree, EAT ME!
I like you Kwan, for who you are. forget those self-rightous pricks, I am in you corner.
::Big hugs:: to you, sir--but really I'm far more bothered by my reaction than what anyone has to say about my size.
Furry fandom doesn't hold a monopoly on being assholes; in my experience Anime fandom reigns supreme in that skill. Example: at an anime con I was once ordered not to go out front of the hotel, because there was a news crew there & I would 'make the fandom look bad.' This from a guy who desperately needed introduction to a toothbrush & deodorant, and for someone to take a hose to both himself & his clothing (his hair alone would have qualified to be its own ecosystem). Whereas I was clean, groomed, and as I was wearing slacks & a blouse I was better-dressed than 99% of the attendees.
First of all, sorry about replying to this journal... several days after you've probably forgotten about it. ^^;
Second of all, I really like how Kwan puts every detail of those icky events into perspective. How it's not what the artists said (those jerks) >>; but her reaction, the feeling that the art jam she had envisioned would not be possible, now... and how she understands that there are people who don't like fat people, and how people have the right to be wrong... ^^
It's great that Kwan knows exactly where she stands. ^^ Comes with being our age, I'd say. ^^;
Anyway, I'm sending you a note, so I don't spam your comments with long, pointless, old man rambles. ^^; I hope you've had a wonderful nine days since this journal! ^^
What a wonderful note, thank you! ^__^
It's helped me IMMENSELY with coming to grips with why people react to large people the way they do, why we react to *ourselves* being large as we do, and how to go about breaking out of that AND being healthy, as well as happy with ourselves.
I *suspect* that there is a large portion of the population who for some reason are annoyed when a fat person can actually enjoy themselves & have a good time...and an even larger portion of the population who view fat folks as a 'safe' (& obvious) target to vent their own bad feelings on, but that's just a theory.
Thank you, ma'am!
::facepalm::
Wow.
Just....just...
WOW....
So what if you are heavy? You are a beautiful person inside AND out. Don't listen to them and perhaps, the next time you hear that comment, ask them WHY they dislike over weight people? They may not even know themselves. Also, suggest they get to know the PERSON before making such a statement.
Yeah, everyone has a (sexual) type. But that doesn't mean they have to be rude about the ones they don't with to bed.
I am also very happy seeing that you are FINALLY sharing your wonderful work with the world! LOL (remembers artwork of not letting others see your work)
Chin up girl! Just remember, you ARE better person than those that talk like they do!
::flees!::
Perhaps it's just the disappointment realizing that people still think that way. That people are all too willing to let small things (and in the grand scheme of things, one's appearance is a very small thing) influence who they interact with to the point that they'd refuse to interact with someone just because they're fat or ugly or... whatever the case may be, you know? It's just so disappointing that people are willing to close themselves off like that, willing to shut out potential friends and acquaintances over something so shallow. I mean, even as much as you try to temper your expectations, to expect the jackasses to be there and exist and say rude crap (half the crap they say my mother would have ended me over had I dared say it while in her presence, she was a big believer in being polite), it's still just so terribly disappointing.
Hell, it's disappointing how many people lack basic manners these days. Can't believe people actually approve of going up to random folks and saying rude, hurtful things, as if someone's very existence as something they dislike gives them the right to do so. Feh.
I know people are only human but we're all well and fully capable of being civil and polite, so it really grinds my gears to see people actively go against that grain :/
Because frankly, I have a huge bugaboo about people who don't maintain good hygiene. I seriously would avoid sitting down & doing an artswap with someone who smells & looks like they don't use soap, a comb, or clean clothes. That might be the sweetest person in the whole wide world. I might be missing out on a great experience. But I can't get past the layers of bad body-funk. :/
I guess that's what I focused in on because sheer rudeness is a big pet peeve of mine. It's ok to have preferences but to state them in such distasteful manners as some do just isn't on.
I'd probably do the same, really. Although I think my nose is fried, I can't detect "bad hygiene" until it reaches "escaped from the landfill" levels of funk.