[Kink Talk] Pregnancy and "Wholesome"
3 years ago
Make an attempt to brighten someone's day.
I'm going to commit a bit of a cardinal sin here and say that I don't particularly like "wholesome" focus of pregnancy. Now hear me out, I'm not anti-emotions or something like that, but I much, MUCH prefer to use it as an erotic narrative device than to create some sort of overly cutesy and saccharine character/idea.
Perhaps it has something to do with how the word "wholesome" has been bastardized and overused over the past few years, or more accurately how it's overtaken spaces that are normally supposed to be erotic in nature. But I have a hard time enjoying stories or art that try a little too hard to be cute or "non horny" with a major emphasis on belly rubs and hand holding. It can seem a little disingenuous. I'm not sure why people are so opposed to making more erotic stories about pregnancy that don't draw the line at softcore moans at getting her belly touched, or why people try so hard to ignore the sexual nature behind pregnancy. That's something I don't think I'll ever really understand.
While those elements can be good to add to a story, I'm an erotic creator, so they should be supplementing a story that is already built around the horny nature of procreation. The deep, inner desire to breed, followed by the subsequent marathon sessions of raw sex, and then playing with what it does to her body. Hell, maybe she becomes more attractive to her partner and they have even more sex, also thanks to her wacky hormones leaving her horny at the weirdest times. There's so many interesting and fun ways to make pregnancy inherently erotic, and I love exploring those different narrative avenues. Like I said in my last journal, especially the power dynamic and instincts of it are what really drive it home for me.
I just tend to get bored with "she likes belly rubs", I feel like there's a lot more to pregnancy than just that.
Perhaps it has something to do with how the word "wholesome" has been bastardized and overused over the past few years, or more accurately how it's overtaken spaces that are normally supposed to be erotic in nature. But I have a hard time enjoying stories or art that try a little too hard to be cute or "non horny" with a major emphasis on belly rubs and hand holding. It can seem a little disingenuous. I'm not sure why people are so opposed to making more erotic stories about pregnancy that don't draw the line at softcore moans at getting her belly touched, or why people try so hard to ignore the sexual nature behind pregnancy. That's something I don't think I'll ever really understand.
While those elements can be good to add to a story, I'm an erotic creator, so they should be supplementing a story that is already built around the horny nature of procreation. The deep, inner desire to breed, followed by the subsequent marathon sessions of raw sex, and then playing with what it does to her body. Hell, maybe she becomes more attractive to her partner and they have even more sex, also thanks to her wacky hormones leaving her horny at the weirdest times. There's so many interesting and fun ways to make pregnancy inherently erotic, and I love exploring those different narrative avenues. Like I said in my last journal, especially the power dynamic and instincts of it are what really drive it home for me.
I just tend to get bored with "she likes belly rubs", I feel like there's a lot more to pregnancy than just that.
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The hormonal changes alone spur a plethora of affects ranging from nausea, to weird hungers, and spontaneous increases in sex drive. Exploration of the sex drive aspect in art I believe is so underutilized because so many people have just become so terribly afraid of anything slightly tangential the thought of sexualizing the miracle of making a new life.
It seems to me it's become extremely common to dissociate a woman as a person with carnal needs or desires once she becomes pregnant, and that now her sole purpose is to resign themselves as a beautiful and untouchable shrine until the baby(s) is born.
Personally I don't mind if folks prefer to stick to the "niceties", obviously not everyone needs to like something simply because it exists, but I would like to see more art like yours crop up. I know I try my best to get around to it myself. Sex and extra tender neediness during pregnancy is very real and deserve to be explored as much as the cute and sometimes over-romanticized bits.
And like I said people are allowed to enjoy what they want, but I would love to see more people exploring the raw, erotic nature of it. Need more people letting themselves be horny over a rounded out belly.
Your point is also well-taken that it can certainly feel odd and dishonest for pregnancy to be de-sexualized, given that sex is how pregnancy usually happens in the first place! It can turn sex into the "elephant in the room."
But, I wholly understand and support people not wanting pregnant people to be objectified and wanting pregnancy itself to be treated with a modicum of respect and kindness, and I also understand and respect folks desiring more wholesome stories and art that are just based on gentle warmth, respect, and intimacy.
Pretty much limits art that gets me going to extrapolating what I can find in "wholesome" pregnancy art, and very rare artists that occasionly indulge in intensely horny Solo & F/F pregnancy stuff (rapid/instant/magic preg, etc.), it's out there, just never gets as much time to shine as the usual IRL-saddled M/F pregnancy content. The horny, rough, heated aspects are still there, just revoling around feminine characters only. Also, it means avoiding reading any text involved in pregnancy art, since most of the time the text included impiles some masculine character interaction.
None of the IRL impossibilities de-sexualizes it AFAIC, in fact it makes it more sexy, it removes it from IRL into a more comforting and approachably atractive form for the few like me.
But, that's kind of an interesting thing about fetishes, a bunch of people can generally be into fantasy pregnancy, but none for exactly the same reasons, some being polar opposite reasons, most just Venn diagrams of combined interests; Possibly the only major overlap being the a love of the shape of pregnant tums.
Anyway, interesting discussions you're bringing up! It's a double-edged sword to dig into the why's of kinks publicly, but it's open and refreshing and positive so far.
I just really don't care for the wholesomeness, I already see that plenty in pregnancy ads and romantic comedy movies. I'd much rather have the art revolving around what the folks in the big leagues won't want to explore -- the sheer fact that pregnancy is going to be an erotic thing for many people. It's inherently sexual, and can only be further sexualized with however many ways you want to. Sure M/F content is going to be much more prevalent than F/F content for obvious reasons, but it's still, for some weird reason, not nearly as common as solo F with *zero* mention of how exactly that belly got there. Which just completely ruins it for me. Belly alone or some sweet rubs from someone just does absolutely nothing for me. But it seems to be the only thing people ever want out of this kind of content.
F/F stuff can be fun, for sure, but as I'm not turned off by seeing or having mentioned a dude, or at least someone with a dick to make that belly happen at some point, I'd much rather it be included in some fashion. It at least allows me to fill in the gaps and maybe make up some headcanons for what's going on -- when all I have to go off of is "She's pregnant, no there is no father, she just wants belly rubs and ice cream", I'm just kinda like............I don't really find that very fun. I just wish more people weren't so afraid to make things horny and allow characters to be sexy instead of just cute.
I just find it a bit boring and unfulfilling to see something that just takes a little snapshot of what it looks like 7 months in. You can like what you like, absolutely, but I don't think I'll ever really enjoy that kind of thing that feels like it's just there for the sake of being there. Although I don't know much about you and your preferences so I won't make any assumptions there, just stating what I tend to like doing. I get a lot of people coming to me for wholesome preg stuff and I just, don't really like it.
Real-life pregnancies are full of pain and disease, and discomfort, and the responsibility of further lives, which often is handled terribly IRL, it's all too visible and nauseating in real life that it's not sexy to some, even brings back painful memories/experiences best left buried. But the fetish of pregnancy and related fantasy variations of it's aspects is still there, it can be explored in many ways, from wholesome fluff scenes to intensely/extremely horny stuff, venturing into the fantastical/completely impossible; We're not limited by IRL, Furry art itself is a testament to that.
And please don't get me wrong, everything from variations on sex and conception to outrageous styles of birth and variants of what can be birthed and how gestations or anatomy can work are involved in my view of the fetish. After a point, IRL-influenced M/F stuff is alien, could itself be dull, and becomes a reminder of the ugliness of the world at large. It's not a dislike or "fear of making it sexy" as you put it, but a whole different view of what is sexy.
We're at totally different ends of the pregnancy fetish interest, but I must say there's an incalcuable number of your pieces I consider exquisite pregnancy/labor art, since you do in fact make solo feminine shots/sequences, some waterbreak here and there, hyper tums, eggs, even surrogacy, the list goes on. It's not the main focus as your journals explaing your interest in preg define, but I hope you can see how those of us outside of the view you have can enjoy these aspects too, even if extropolating it from a totally different place.
Just my $.02
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Impregnation and Pregnancy is Sexy as #*** ! No ... seriously. Procreation is ' THE ... REASON ' why SEX and SEXINESS even EXISTS!
There is literally nothing in the UINIVERSE that is more Justified and Appropriate to be 'Horny' about. NOTHING.
Getting Pregnant ... Being Pregnant ... it is the Ultimate manifestation of "Sex".
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"Parenthood"
... Parenhood is Wholesome.
Being "Mommy" ... being "Daddy" ...
Loving the kids, or the promise of kids ... that is when Pregnancy becomes beautiful in a 'Wholesome' way.
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I don't get the whole 'Bellyrubs' thing either. It serves neither. It's just silly.
This dawg's preaching wisdom.
So feel kind of caught between two aspects, but I do like some good raunchy fun, and I will link some examples if you are interested:
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/41778702/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/38616145/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/33165867/
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/30354123/
I'm not talking "gentle sex isn't enough" -- I never said that. In fact I'd be satisfied with that too! There just....isn't a whole lot of eroticism and explicit content with the pregnancy tag.