Yeah, hard death inbound lol
Pray the legends on mod launchers give us something to work around it

Someone already made a mod to deal with it, but it isn't all encompassing. It's called "no chat reporting" but it requires the servers you join have a setting disabled that relates to the packets your account would normally send. At the very least this may mean vanilla minecraft for newer versions of minecraft is out, and older versions too if the rumors I hear are true about them scurrying to jerryrig chat moderation into popular older versions too.

I sure hope not
Either way, I'm kinda glad I broke off the updates train around 1.16 or so. microsoft can eat shit.

the rumors of minecraft adding the stuff to older versions are partially true, them being true at all is bad enough though.
i believe the way it works is that the bans can only be 1.19.1+, but if you do get banned, its through the authentication servers, making the ban work on pretty much all versions

im pretty late, you might already know this by now, but seen this and thought id say

knowing Micro$haft, before they let Minecraft finally impact the ground like they're heavily pushing it towards, they're going to instate a final rule before breaking up Mojang and making them work on terrible Minecraft spinnoff clones (what's that new one they're coming out with? yea... that shit), that ***any*** modified instance attempting to connect to any servers are instantly and irricovably (because it's Micro$haft, they won't pay people to look at reports), ban on their account. And something as simple Optifine will get your account permanently banned.

If they can't make bank off of peoples misery, then no-one can have fun with a game anymore.

I actually DID like one of their spinoff games, Minecraft Earth- but that one got scrapped fast when they realized nobody was buying their microtransaction BS and was just enjoying the game for free. Sadly the game is unplayable now and the servers are permanently shut down.

MC Dungeons? It's like the LOOK of minecraft without any of the actual play

The new one looks similar, and I don't plan on playing what is essentially Age of Empires or some base defense game but with the look of Minecraft.

People DON'T play the game for the look... they play it because it is a sandbox game with very light survival elements where you can experience freedom, and that is why original Minecraft is the only successful one- until they end up breaking it anyways.

Honestly this has been my biggest turn off from Dungeons. It's *not* Minecraft. It's a dungeon crawler wearing its skin. There isn't even a single hint of crafting, something they could have done quite easily. I didn't even get a chance to play MC Earth before it shut down which sucks, because it actually looked like it would have been a fun little game to play here and there. As for Legends... I'm not sure yet, we've seen so little of it but I feel like it's going to be another Dungeons case. I get they want to recoup the money they invested but surely they've done that and more by now. The game has had such a rise in popularity, they'd be insane to kill it now.

Also optifine being the most popular Minecraft mod of all times is also very telling... people don't like the look, they like the gameplay.

Honestly, I wouldn't even take issue with this if it were just directed at Realms seeing as those are hosted by them. The fact this impacts privately owned and moderated servers is way out of line and the fact they can go over already established moderation is just... I can't, I just can't. It makes me feel unsafe in my own damn server that I pay to have hosted, like what the hell??? What do I do if one of my friends gets banned for saying something a "human" reviewer deems to be offensive when it could just be a joke between us?

It's funny that they were pretty quick to make ammendments to it about profanity and the like but this is still just, awful. I don't condone Microsoft meddling where they have no right to, and if they don't go back on this then I guess I'm dropping Minecraft for good and waiting patiently for whenever Hytale comes out, fingers crossed it doesn't get screwed over. :/

Oh I have no issue with them enacting community guidelines on THEIR servers, and if I got banned from their servers I would have just shrugged and played on private servers instead.

"I have no issue with them enacting community guidelines on THEIR servers"

that's how it typically goes for games that have private servers. and that's likely what's going to need to happen here.

private servers for minecraft are going to need to start requiring account registration for them be made entirely SEPARATE from accounts registered for the official minecraft servers. which would cut them off from this rule change.

official game servers have their "official rules" while private servers are separate and have their own rules.

that's how it is with MMOs and it looks like that now needs to happen with minecraft too. maybe

Seeing that there groups of people who are so seinsitive that they are easily offended, there is of course the chance these guidelines will have the community implode on its own

Oh I don't doubt the community will implode over this

The global banning system is probably the absolute stupidest idea Microsoft has came up with so far. That thing can be abused so easily and it absolutely is an overreach of control. Microsoft should absolutely have no right to decided someone's fate on a private server. I can understand it if it's on a server hosted by Microsoft like realms but private... What kind of damn boomer thought that was a good idea!!??

"How would you like to have your entire account banned from EVER playing online again over something that got misconstrued as offensive or because someone didn't understand a joke with only like 10 people on 1 server?"

sounds like the change square made that can potentially get massive free companies (guilds) destroyed in ffxiv if so much as a single person makes a report about something they so much as perceive to be offensive in some way.

"Yes, I am not joking. Private server owners are no longer going to be able to control who can or cannot join after this coming update, and people will now be permanently banned because enough players reported them to Microsoft's new automated all encompassing moderation system (which about 99.9% of the community hates after realizing what it means)."

ah, hello moderation system that TOTALLY isn't automated despite the fact everyone knows it is fully automated.

i bet they tried to make that claim, didn't they?

"Everyone has a different idea of what is considered hate speech, and furthermore adult only anarchy servers do exist where people shouldn't have to worry about their speech at all."

YEP! it's the same thing square did! because we can't have people going around saying mean and/or offensive words.

That spound like AWFUL news!
What da heck is happening with them?!

This wasn't a Mojang decision. This was a Microsoft decision.

Mojang is being complacent, and I did mention Microsoft in there as well. This is on both the parent company and the company under them. Microsoft is the most at fault though, and they have been receiving a lot of flack over this decision.

I misread the mentions of Microsoft as Mojang when I read. My bad.

This is not where I expected to hear about this.

oh i thought this was gonna talk about how now you need a microsoft account to play minecraft because the mojang accounts are converted over and unusable now.

I didn't really care at first about that because it made sense for the account authentication to be tied to the company that owns it, but now Microsoft is screwing everyone over by enforcing this new "feature" on everyone.

Had some issues with MC in general. It's quite possible I was just being really stupid with my setup for it, but finding the information I needed certainly wasn't easy.
(Happened a few months ago.) I was invited to play on a Minecraft realm server. I hadn't played MC in about a year so figured I'd give it a go.
Mojang requests that I connect my Minecraft account with my Microsoft account, so I do so. I try to update my "old" minecraft launcher, and am unable to, says I need a new launcher (generally.) I ask my realm - friends if they know anything about this "new" launcher, none of them seem to know what I'm talking about. I try a few more times before I delete the launcher, and I head over to Mojang to download the "new" launcher. "Windows 11 Launcher For PC." Load the launcher, fails to load, says I need an X-Box Gold account to play. I already bought MC like 10 years ago, why do I need gold to play -at all-?
I click on the link and it takes me to the X-Box store to purchase Minecraft from the store. "Microsoft Store Minecraft, Two Stars." ... Sure, whatever, I'll buy it again. Oh wait, I can't, because Microsoft says I already own it. Try to re-download the launcher, fail to load, I need to download the launcher from the Microsoft store.
Googles about launcher options. If there's a second option, I can't find it. Contact my friend who works in IT, he spends 3 hours trying to figure out what version I own as well as a second launcher option, he can't find anything. Meanwhile none of my friends who play on the realm seem to know what's wrong since they're somehow still working on the old launcher.
I go to Mojang for support, I have to enter my account information to enter. It says my information isn't attached to a Minecraft account.
What? I was just here yesterday to connect my account to Microsoft? Can't confirm information either, because I can't get the "new" launcher to function, which seems to be the only other way around that! I take a secondary rout for their support, finally get into contact with someone. Conversation boils down to:
"Sorry, we have no idea why it's not working, seems you're SOL."
Never get a follow-up response.
As a last-stich effort, I manage to find my "old" launcher download file off of my PC which I never deleted. I install that, and for some reason, it installs up to the latest version.
Go to access Realms. "This launcher isn't compatible with Realms. Please download the new launcher to access Minecraft Realms." NO information on what where or how to access this new launcher. FML.

In any case, if you need a break away from MC, I'd suggest checking out Core-Keeper. It's still pretty new, but a lot of fun to play with friends!

You would think a game as big as Minecraft (being one of THE most played games in the world) would have enough sense to know how to fix the common issues people have like that. You're not the first to experience that exact issue either, it's something at least 3 of my friends dealt with too.

I think part of the issue was that it seemed to have had different results for different players, not only on PC but also other platforms, as well, which just adds to the confusion. I still haven't gotten a fix for it. XD
I do hope that Microsoft is able to swing it back around, though. It might had just been a case of them trying to milk the product for as long as they could while they owned it, they are fallowing suspiciously in the steps of EA. "If it's broke and we don't have a fix for it, oh well, buy it again or try again later, we already have your money, not our problem anymore." -Especially- with this new ban method.
I could just be doom-calling though. Minecraft still has bucketloads of potential, and is still fun to play, when you can XD

I feel like this is gonna create another riftof the playerbase where players will refuse to use newer versions, like what happened with 1.8

It likely will, and for those that do insist on going to newer versions they certainly won't be playing vanilla anymore.

Yep. If i ever play on 1.19.1 or higher, I'm installing that mod that un-signs your chat.

I've loved that game for many years, but have been unable to play it in a long time due to my computer aging. I ran mods on mine since otherwise the game is bloody dull. I used to run 1.7.10, but got introduced to 1.12.2[I think].. i'd probably end up going back to 1.7.10 though since I liked that version better. However I did convert my account over to Microsoft when this started.. just makes me wonder, does any of this affect single player worlds? I used to play just as a way of unwinding after a rough day at work.

It does indirectly, because if you get banned your account itself gets banned. Single player is technically safe if that's all you do.

All I ever do anymore is single player.. for a while, I did do multiplayer, but it was with friends only, one would host this world from his computer and we'd play around on it, but those days are long over with.

I haven't played in nearly 2 years now, and always preferred single player since i'm real easily distracted and always found it hard to do anything in a public server. ^_^;