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took a look through that H.R. 1808 bill and
3 years ago
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here's the list of guns it would ban.
“(H) All of the following rifles, copies, duplicates, variants, or altered facsimiles with the capability of any such weapon thereof:
“(i) All AK types, including the following:
“(I) AK, AK47, AK47S, AK–74, AKM, AKS, ARM, MAK90, MISR, NHM90, NHM91, Rock River Arms LAR–47, SA85, SA93, Vector Arms AK–47, VEPR, WASR–10, and WUM.
“(II) IZHMASH Saiga AK.
“(III) MAADI AK47 and ARM.
“(IV) Norinco 56S, 56S2, 84S, and 86S.
“(V) Poly Technologies AK47 and AKS.
“(VI) SKS with a detachable magazine.
“(ii) All AR types, including the following:
“(I) AR–10.
“(II) AR–15.
“(III) Alexander Arms Overmatch Plus 16.
“(IV) Armalite M15 22LR Carbine.
“(V) Armalite M15–T.
“(VI) Barrett REC7.
“(VII) Beretta AR–70.
“(VIII) Black Rain Ordnance Recon Scout.
“(IX) Bushmaster ACR.
“(X) Bushmaster Carbon 15.
“(XI) Bushmaster MOE series.
“(XII) Bushmaster XM15.
“(XIII) Chiappa Firearms MFour rifles.
“(XIV) Colt Match Target rifles.
“(XV) CORE Rifle Systems CORE15 rifles.
“(XVI) Daniel Defense M4A1 rifles.
“(XVII) Devil Dog Arms 15 Series rifles.
“(XVIII) Diamondback DB15 rifles.
“(XIX) DoubleStar AR rifles.
“(XX) DPMS Tactical rifles.
“(XXI) DSA Inc. ZM–4 Carbine.
“(XXII) Heckler & Koch MR556.
“(XXIII) High Standard HSA–15 rifles.
“(XXIV) Jesse James Nomad AR–15 rifle.
“(XXV) Knight’s Armament SR–15.
“(XXVI) Lancer L15 rifles.
“(XXVII) MGI Hydra Series rifles.
“(XXVIII) Mossberg MMR Tactical rifles.
“(XXIX) Noreen Firearms BN 36 rifle.
“(XXX) Olympic Arms.
“(XXXI) POF USA P415.
“(XXXII) Precision Firearms AR rifles.
“(XXXIII) Remington R–15 rifles.
“(XXXIV) Rhino Arms AR rifles.
“(XXXV) Rock River Arms LAR–15.
“(XXXVI) Sig Sauer SIG516 rifles and MCX rifles.
“(XXXVII) Smith & Wesson M&P15 rifles.
“(XXXVIII) Stag Arms AR rifles.
“(XXXIX) Sturm, Ruger & Co. SR556 and AR–556 rifles.
“(XL) Uselton Arms Air-Lite M–4 rifles.
“(XLI) Windham Weaponry AR rifles.
“(XLII) WMD Guns Big Beast.
“(XLIII) Yankee Hill Machine Company, Inc. YHM–15 rifles.
“(iii) Barrett M107A1.
“(iv) Barrett M82A1.
“(v) Beretta CX4 Storm.
“(vi) Calico Liberty Series.
“(vii) CETME Sporter.
“(viii) Daewoo K–1, K–2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR 110C.
“(ix) Fabrique Nationale/FN Herstal FAL, LAR, 22 FNC, 308 Match, L1A1 Sporter, PS90, SCAR, and FS2000.
“(x) Feather Industries AT–9.
“(xi) Galil Model AR and Model ARM.
“(xii) Hi-Point Carbine.
“(xiii) HK–91, HK–93, HK–94, HK–PSG–1, and HK USC.
“(xiv) IWI TAVOR, Galil ACE rifle.
“(xv) Kel-Tec Sub-2000, SU–16, and RFB.
“(xvi) SIG AMT, SIG PE–57, Sig Sauer SG 550, Sig Sauer SG 551, and SIG MCX.
“(xvii) Springfield Armory SAR–48.
“(xviii) Steyr AUG.
“(xix) Sturm, Ruger & Co. Mini-14 Tactical Rifle M–14/20CF.
“(xx) All Thompson rifles, including the following:
“(I) Thompson M1SB.
“(II) Thompson T1100D.
“(III) Thompson T150D.
“(IV) Thompson T1B.
“(V) Thompson T1B100D.
“(VI) Thompson T1B50D.
“(VII) Thompson T1BSB.
“(VIII) Thompson T1–C.
“(IX) Thompson T1D.
“(X) Thompson T1SB.
“(XI) Thompson T5.
“(XII) Thompson T5100D.
“(XIII) Thompson TM1.
“(XIV) Thompson TM1C.
“(xxi) UMAREX UZI rifle.
“(xxii) UZI Mini Carbine, UZI Model A Carbine, and UZI Model B Carbine.
“(xxiii) Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78.
“(xxiv) Vector Arms UZI Type.
“(xxv) Weaver Arms Nighthawk.
“(xxvi) Wilkinson Arms Linda Carbine.
“(I) All of the following pistols, copies, duplicates, variants, or altered facsimiles with the capability of any such weapon thereof:
“(i) All AK types, including the following:
“(I) Centurion 39 AK pistol.
“(II) CZ Scorpion pistol.
“(III) Draco AK–47 pistol.
“(IV) HCR AK–47 pistol.
“(V) IO Inc. Hellpup AK–47 pistol.
“(VI) Krinkov pistol.
“(VII) Mini Draco AK–47 pistol.
“(VIII) PAP M92 pistol.
“(IX) Yugo Krebs Krink pistol.
“(ii) All AR types, including the following:
“(I) American Spirit AR–15 pistol.
“(II) Bushmaster Carbon 15 pistol.
“(III) Chiappa Firearms M4 Pistol GEN II.
“(IV) CORE Rifle Systems CORE15 Roscoe pistol.
“(V) Daniel Defense MK18 pistol.
“(VI) DoubleStar Corporation AR pistol.
“(VII) DPMS AR–15 pistol.
“(VIII) Jesse James Nomad AR–15 pistol.
“(IX) Olympic Arms AR–15 pistol.
“(X) Osprey Armament MK–18 pistol.
“(XI) POF USA AR pistols.
“(XII) Rock River Arms LAR 15 pistol.
“(XIII) Uselton Arms Air-Lite M–4 pistol.
“(iii) Calico pistols.
“(iv) DSA SA58 PKP FAL pistol.
“(v) Encom MP–9 and MP–45.
“(vi) Heckler & Koch model SP–89 pistol.
“(vii) Intratec AB–10, TEC–22 Scorpion, TEC–9, and TEC–DC9.
“(viii) IWI Galil Ace pistol, UZI PRO pistol.
“(ix) Kel-Tec PLR 16 pistol.
“(x) All MAC types, including the following:
“(I) MAC–10.
“(II) MAC–11.
“(III) Masterpiece Arms MPA A930 Mini Pistol, MPA460 Pistol, MPA Tactical Pistol, and MPA Mini Tactical Pistol.
“(IV) Military Armament Corp. Ingram M–11.
“(V) Velocity Arms VMAC.
“(xi) Sig Sauer P556 pistol.
“(xii) Sites Spectre.
“(xiii) All Thompson types, including the following:
“(I) Thompson TA510D.
“(II) Thompson TA5.
“(xiv) All UZI types, including Micro-UZI.
“(J) All of the following shotguns, copies, duplicates, variants, or altered facsimiles with the capability of any such weapon thereof:
“(i) DERYA Anakon MC–1980, Anakon SD12.
“(ii) Doruk Lethal shotguns.
“(iii) Franchi LAW–12 and SPAS 12.
“(iv) All IZHMASH Saiga 12 types, including the following:
“(I) IZHMASH Saiga 12.
“(II) IZHMASH Saiga 12S.
“(III) IZHMASH Saiga 12S EXP–01.
“(IV) IZHMASH Saiga 12K.
“(V) IZHMASH Saiga 12K–030.
“(VI) IZHMASH Saiga 12K–040 Taktika.
“(v) Streetsweeper.
“(vi) Striker 12.
“(K) All belt-fed semiautomatic firearms, including TNW M2HB and FN M2495.
“(H) All of the following rifles, copies, duplicates, variants, or altered facsimiles with the capability of any such weapon thereof:
“(i) All AK types, including the following:
“(I) AK, AK47, AK47S, AK–74, AKM, AKS, ARM, MAK90, MISR, NHM90, NHM91, Rock River Arms LAR–47, SA85, SA93, Vector Arms AK–47, VEPR, WASR–10, and WUM.
“(II) IZHMASH Saiga AK.
“(III) MAADI AK47 and ARM.
“(IV) Norinco 56S, 56S2, 84S, and 86S.
“(V) Poly Technologies AK47 and AKS.
“(VI) SKS with a detachable magazine.
“(ii) All AR types, including the following:
“(I) AR–10.
“(II) AR–15.
“(III) Alexander Arms Overmatch Plus 16.
“(IV) Armalite M15 22LR Carbine.
“(V) Armalite M15–T.
“(VI) Barrett REC7.
“(VII) Beretta AR–70.
“(VIII) Black Rain Ordnance Recon Scout.
“(IX) Bushmaster ACR.
“(X) Bushmaster Carbon 15.
“(XI) Bushmaster MOE series.
“(XII) Bushmaster XM15.
“(XIII) Chiappa Firearms MFour rifles.
“(XIV) Colt Match Target rifles.
“(XV) CORE Rifle Systems CORE15 rifles.
“(XVI) Daniel Defense M4A1 rifles.
“(XVII) Devil Dog Arms 15 Series rifles.
“(XVIII) Diamondback DB15 rifles.
“(XIX) DoubleStar AR rifles.
“(XX) DPMS Tactical rifles.
“(XXI) DSA Inc. ZM–4 Carbine.
“(XXII) Heckler & Koch MR556.
“(XXIII) High Standard HSA–15 rifles.
“(XXIV) Jesse James Nomad AR–15 rifle.
“(XXV) Knight’s Armament SR–15.
“(XXVI) Lancer L15 rifles.
“(XXVII) MGI Hydra Series rifles.
“(XXVIII) Mossberg MMR Tactical rifles.
“(XXIX) Noreen Firearms BN 36 rifle.
“(XXX) Olympic Arms.
“(XXXI) POF USA P415.
“(XXXII) Precision Firearms AR rifles.
“(XXXIII) Remington R–15 rifles.
“(XXXIV) Rhino Arms AR rifles.
“(XXXV) Rock River Arms LAR–15.
“(XXXVI) Sig Sauer SIG516 rifles and MCX rifles.
“(XXXVII) Smith & Wesson M&P15 rifles.
“(XXXVIII) Stag Arms AR rifles.
“(XXXIX) Sturm, Ruger & Co. SR556 and AR–556 rifles.
“(XL) Uselton Arms Air-Lite M–4 rifles.
“(XLI) Windham Weaponry AR rifles.
“(XLII) WMD Guns Big Beast.
“(XLIII) Yankee Hill Machine Company, Inc. YHM–15 rifles.
“(iii) Barrett M107A1.
“(iv) Barrett M82A1.
“(v) Beretta CX4 Storm.
“(vi) Calico Liberty Series.
“(vii) CETME Sporter.
“(viii) Daewoo K–1, K–2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR 110C.
“(ix) Fabrique Nationale/FN Herstal FAL, LAR, 22 FNC, 308 Match, L1A1 Sporter, PS90, SCAR, and FS2000.
“(x) Feather Industries AT–9.
“(xi) Galil Model AR and Model ARM.
“(xii) Hi-Point Carbine.
“(xiii) HK–91, HK–93, HK–94, HK–PSG–1, and HK USC.
“(xiv) IWI TAVOR, Galil ACE rifle.
“(xv) Kel-Tec Sub-2000, SU–16, and RFB.
“(xvi) SIG AMT, SIG PE–57, Sig Sauer SG 550, Sig Sauer SG 551, and SIG MCX.
“(xvii) Springfield Armory SAR–48.
“(xviii) Steyr AUG.
“(xix) Sturm, Ruger & Co. Mini-14 Tactical Rifle M–14/20CF.
“(xx) All Thompson rifles, including the following:
“(I) Thompson M1SB.
“(II) Thompson T1100D.
“(III) Thompson T150D.
“(IV) Thompson T1B.
“(V) Thompson T1B100D.
“(VI) Thompson T1B50D.
“(VII) Thompson T1BSB.
“(VIII) Thompson T1–C.
“(IX) Thompson T1D.
“(X) Thompson T1SB.
“(XI) Thompson T5.
“(XII) Thompson T5100D.
“(XIII) Thompson TM1.
“(XIV) Thompson TM1C.
“(xxi) UMAREX UZI rifle.
“(xxii) UZI Mini Carbine, UZI Model A Carbine, and UZI Model B Carbine.
“(xxiii) Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78.
“(xxiv) Vector Arms UZI Type.
“(xxv) Weaver Arms Nighthawk.
“(xxvi) Wilkinson Arms Linda Carbine.
“(I) All of the following pistols, copies, duplicates, variants, or altered facsimiles with the capability of any such weapon thereof:
“(i) All AK types, including the following:
“(I) Centurion 39 AK pistol.
“(II) CZ Scorpion pistol.
“(III) Draco AK–47 pistol.
“(IV) HCR AK–47 pistol.
“(V) IO Inc. Hellpup AK–47 pistol.
“(VI) Krinkov pistol.
“(VII) Mini Draco AK–47 pistol.
“(VIII) PAP M92 pistol.
“(IX) Yugo Krebs Krink pistol.
“(ii) All AR types, including the following:
“(I) American Spirit AR–15 pistol.
“(II) Bushmaster Carbon 15 pistol.
“(III) Chiappa Firearms M4 Pistol GEN II.
“(IV) CORE Rifle Systems CORE15 Roscoe pistol.
“(V) Daniel Defense MK18 pistol.
“(VI) DoubleStar Corporation AR pistol.
“(VII) DPMS AR–15 pistol.
“(VIII) Jesse James Nomad AR–15 pistol.
“(IX) Olympic Arms AR–15 pistol.
“(X) Osprey Armament MK–18 pistol.
“(XI) POF USA AR pistols.
“(XII) Rock River Arms LAR 15 pistol.
“(XIII) Uselton Arms Air-Lite M–4 pistol.
“(iii) Calico pistols.
“(iv) DSA SA58 PKP FAL pistol.
“(v) Encom MP–9 and MP–45.
“(vi) Heckler & Koch model SP–89 pistol.
“(vii) Intratec AB–10, TEC–22 Scorpion, TEC–9, and TEC–DC9.
“(viii) IWI Galil Ace pistol, UZI PRO pistol.
“(ix) Kel-Tec PLR 16 pistol.
“(x) All MAC types, including the following:
“(I) MAC–10.
“(II) MAC–11.
“(III) Masterpiece Arms MPA A930 Mini Pistol, MPA460 Pistol, MPA Tactical Pistol, and MPA Mini Tactical Pistol.
“(IV) Military Armament Corp. Ingram M–11.
“(V) Velocity Arms VMAC.
“(xi) Sig Sauer P556 pistol.
“(xii) Sites Spectre.
“(xiii) All Thompson types, including the following:
“(I) Thompson TA510D.
“(II) Thompson TA5.
“(xiv) All UZI types, including Micro-UZI.
“(J) All of the following shotguns, copies, duplicates, variants, or altered facsimiles with the capability of any such weapon thereof:
“(i) DERYA Anakon MC–1980, Anakon SD12.
“(ii) Doruk Lethal shotguns.
“(iii) Franchi LAW–12 and SPAS 12.
“(iv) All IZHMASH Saiga 12 types, including the following:
“(I) IZHMASH Saiga 12.
“(II) IZHMASH Saiga 12S.
“(III) IZHMASH Saiga 12S EXP–01.
“(IV) IZHMASH Saiga 12K.
“(V) IZHMASH Saiga 12K–030.
“(VI) IZHMASH Saiga 12K–040 Taktika.
“(v) Streetsweeper.
“(vi) Striker 12.
“(K) All belt-fed semiautomatic firearms, including TNW M2HB and FN M2495.
In the unlikely event the bugger WAS passed, that would trigger CWII.
i just can't. that pisses me off WAY too badly.
So the Antis and Government Agents best not look to start one against me. ^.-.^
don't think i've heard any actual proper argument for this bill yet. mostly appeals to emotion and the democrats using shootings to try and justify this ban. which i really don't like because it sounds as if they're trying to exploit those killed in the attacks to push their political agenda which is...a bit fucked up.
i think some of the republicans called out the democrats on that being the reason they wanted these guns banned (because of how the guns look).
11 hours...ain't watching that without taking breaks!
could it be that all your gun control bullshit does not stop gun crimes?
2:23:23 law enforcement is routinely outgunned at every turn? and you unironically think this ban will do anything about that.
this ban will do nothing about gun crime and you know it won't. because this isn't about stopping gun crimes.
also, friend of mine pointed this https://mises.org/power-market/poli.....irms-yet-again out to me and...just amazing... no, seriously...that really does explain a LOT of things.
can't really call police "law enforcement" if they're not required to enforce the law.
"“Neither the Constitution, nor state law, impose a general duty upon police officers or other governmental officials to protect individual persons from harm — even when they know the harm will occur,” said Darren L. Hutchinson, a professor and associate dean at the University of Florida School of Law. “Police can watch someone attack you, refuse to intervene and not violate the Constitution.”
The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that the government has only a duty to protect persons who are “in custody,” he pointed out."
"“Courts have rejected the argument that students are in custody of school officials while they are on campus,” Mr. Hutchinson said. “Custody is narrowly confined to situations where a person loses his or her freedom to move freely and seek assistance on their own — such as prisons, jails, or mental institutions.”"
just incredible!
do you democrats have even one single valid argument that isn't an appeal to EMOTION? just ONE argument on a way to fight gun crimes?
this is ridiculous!
Ask the Chinese about nun-chucks.