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well...minecraft's multiplayer will soon be getting FAR
3 years ago
worse...
The Fight To Save Minecraft Is On...: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvjUNSCWEww
5:54 "we appreciate and value your feedback"
translation: we don't care what any of you are saying or complaining about. we're just going to push this update through whether you like it or not.
"if you feel strongly about..."
uh, no. that is fing BAIT to get people to post in places you can more easily CENSOR and SILENCE them!
that's all this message is. it's a STFU! message to everyone playing the game.
no, comrade community manager MojangMeesh. people should NOT follow your advice in that post. they SHOULD be complaining in places outside of reddit! the ONLY reason you want everyone to bring the discussion to a place like a subreddit is because it'll make your job of mass censorship of the outrage that much easier.
also note, that posts rating was -1983 as of this video. i think people saw through the BS pretty good.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/.....s_out/ihqdwny/ ok...found the community manager post...that was 3 days ago and it's now at -1960.
i hear you loud and clear, mojang! you don't give a damn about the people playing your game and are gonna just push this change no matter what anyone says about it.
edit: https://www.minecraft.net/de-de/art.....reporting-tool
https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us...../7317376541197
(second link) "What can I be banned for?"
my steam moderator bullshit sense are tingling...
"Can I get banned for cussing or swearing?"
probably.
"Will you ban people for talking about suicide?"
maybe if you're pushing people towards committing suicide.
"Why does Mojang need to be involved in third-party server player reporting? Why not just Realms?"
why indeed do they need to apply this...moderation to private servers as well as the official servers?
"What does it mean to be “banned/suspended”? "
"For the duration of your ban, you will not be able to connect to multiplayer servers or Realms on past, current, and future versions of Minecraft."
so...blanket ban across all versions of the game and ALL servers be they official OR private.
"Can I appeal?"
*snirk* lol SURE! if you think they care about you in the slightest! (hint: they DON'T!)
"Are all bans permanent?"
uh huh...and repeat offenders get permabanned from playing multiplayer across all versions and servers of the game...even if they said or did something on a private server.
yes, this system will 100% be abused!
"Why is this an account ban and not an individual server ban?
There are serious forms of abuse that require broad action, part of which includes preventing the abuser from continuing their abuse in other spaces."
well, there's the excuse for this system that will inevitably be used to censor people and discussions of certain topics.
"Will I get banned without my case being reviewed by a human?
No. Our team of human moderators handle player reports. This team is dedicated to Minecraft, and familiar with the community, platform, and lore. Our team reviews every report before any action is taken."
i sincerely doubt this and even when it does happen, you can bet there will be tyranny from the mods all over the place! just like on steam!
"Are you spying on my server?
This system does not monitor chat – no chat messages are sent to us until a player decides to send a report."
ha! i believe this about as much as i believe microsoft doesn't give personally identifiable user data to the NSA to help them spy on everyone INCLUDING US citizens! and microsoft is well known for that dark part of the company's history.
"Is this a player-censoring chat filter?
No. We are not censoring chat. This system does not prevent any chat messages from being sent."
hello, half-truth.
"Can my messages be taken out of context in a report?"
i can say from personal experience with steam moderation and moderation abroad that yes, this WILL happen. OFTEN!
"What technical measures are there to prevent messages being forged?
1.19 introduced cryptographically signed chat, which prevents the forging and/or rearranging of player messages. Any message that has been forged will be flagged for our investigators."
yeah, about that... https://youtu.be/K9qrVwZRCTA?t=138
what was that about "This system does not monitor chat – no chat messages are sent to us until a player decides to send a report."? oh...right...
"Will I be automatically banned if I am reported by a lot of players? What about creators or famous individuals getting targeted?"
but you said "No. Our team of human moderators handle player reports."!
"The volume of reports does not correspond to an automated action being taken on a report. The reported chat evidence is always the basis of any action. The volume of reports does not constitute as more evidence."
so...mass reporting will be an issue...
"What if someone creates a mod that spams/fakes reports?"
this will happen too.
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yeah...this is TOTALLY a great system that no one will EVER exploit and abuse the living F out of! SURE, we TOTALLY trust you to not censor people or power trip like crazy with this TOTALLY NOT AUTOMATED moderation system that is immune to mass report bans...
The Fight To Save Minecraft Is On...: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvjUNSCWEww
5:54 "we appreciate and value your feedback"
translation: we don't care what any of you are saying or complaining about. we're just going to push this update through whether you like it or not.
"if you feel strongly about..."
uh, no. that is fing BAIT to get people to post in places you can more easily CENSOR and SILENCE them!
that's all this message is. it's a STFU! message to everyone playing the game.
no, comrade community manager MojangMeesh. people should NOT follow your advice in that post. they SHOULD be complaining in places outside of reddit! the ONLY reason you want everyone to bring the discussion to a place like a subreddit is because it'll make your job of mass censorship of the outrage that much easier.
also note, that posts rating was -1983 as of this video. i think people saw through the BS pretty good.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/.....s_out/ihqdwny/ ok...found the community manager post...that was 3 days ago and it's now at -1960.
i hear you loud and clear, mojang! you don't give a damn about the people playing your game and are gonna just push this change no matter what anyone says about it.
edit: https://www.minecraft.net/de-de/art.....reporting-tool
https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us...../7317376541197
(second link) "What can I be banned for?"
my steam moderator bullshit sense are tingling...
"Can I get banned for cussing or swearing?"
probably.
"Will you ban people for talking about suicide?"
maybe if you're pushing people towards committing suicide.
"Why does Mojang need to be involved in third-party server player reporting? Why not just Realms?"
why indeed do they need to apply this...moderation to private servers as well as the official servers?
"What does it mean to be “banned/suspended”? "
"For the duration of your ban, you will not be able to connect to multiplayer servers or Realms on past, current, and future versions of Minecraft."
so...blanket ban across all versions of the game and ALL servers be they official OR private.
"Can I appeal?"
*snirk* lol SURE! if you think they care about you in the slightest! (hint: they DON'T!)
"Are all bans permanent?"
uh huh...and repeat offenders get permabanned from playing multiplayer across all versions and servers of the game...even if they said or did something on a private server.
yes, this system will 100% be abused!
"Why is this an account ban and not an individual server ban?
There are serious forms of abuse that require broad action, part of which includes preventing the abuser from continuing their abuse in other spaces."
well, there's the excuse for this system that will inevitably be used to censor people and discussions of certain topics.
"Will I get banned without my case being reviewed by a human?
No. Our team of human moderators handle player reports. This team is dedicated to Minecraft, and familiar with the community, platform, and lore. Our team reviews every report before any action is taken."
i sincerely doubt this and even when it does happen, you can bet there will be tyranny from the mods all over the place! just like on steam!
"Are you spying on my server?
This system does not monitor chat – no chat messages are sent to us until a player decides to send a report."
ha! i believe this about as much as i believe microsoft doesn't give personally identifiable user data to the NSA to help them spy on everyone INCLUDING US citizens! and microsoft is well known for that dark part of the company's history.
"Is this a player-censoring chat filter?
No. We are not censoring chat. This system does not prevent any chat messages from being sent."
hello, half-truth.
"Can my messages be taken out of context in a report?"
i can say from personal experience with steam moderation and moderation abroad that yes, this WILL happen. OFTEN!
"What technical measures are there to prevent messages being forged?
1.19 introduced cryptographically signed chat, which prevents the forging and/or rearranging of player messages. Any message that has been forged will be flagged for our investigators."
yeah, about that... https://youtu.be/K9qrVwZRCTA?t=138
what was that about "This system does not monitor chat – no chat messages are sent to us until a player decides to send a report."? oh...right...
"Will I be automatically banned if I am reported by a lot of players? What about creators or famous individuals getting targeted?"
but you said "No. Our team of human moderators handle player reports."!
"The volume of reports does not correspond to an automated action being taken on a report. The reported chat evidence is always the basis of any action. The volume of reports does not constitute as more evidence."
so...mass reporting will be an issue...
"What if someone creates a mod that spams/fakes reports?"
this will happen too.
---
yeah...this is TOTALLY a great system that no one will EVER exploit and abuse the living F out of! SURE, we TOTALLY trust you to not censor people or power trip like crazy with this TOTALLY NOT AUTOMATED moderation system that is immune to mass report bans...
