Anymore Disney is woke driven, the woke ideology is found in all their work. I'm old school LGBT and this woke crap in entrainment definitely turns me off so I vote with my wallet. I go to the movies to get away from the day to day stuff and escape anymore even that is getting hard to do.

I agree. I was watching the newest transformers cartoon and they started talking pronouns.
Im not against it, or ones identity, but seriously dont need to see it in every form of media nowadays.

If the media constantly beat me over the head with Heterosexual and Conservatism propaganda at the expense of entertainment quality I'd be PRO GAY.

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You can share "The Message" while still making a compelling and engaging story.
But these fuckers are talentless twats who exploit LBGT as shields for criticism.
When they sell their produce to the Middle East or South East Asia they pretend LBGTQ never existed.
And the worst thing is that thanks to these corpos and their armies of militant useful idiots on social media
the future will be needlessly more hostile to the genuine LBGT.

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I've been part of the LGBT community sense the eighties... I'm old school so you keep what goes on in the bedroom in the bedroom. You don't shove it in people's faces, you live and let live.

What we are seeing... well the crap speaks for itself by how well it does at the box office.

I havent been excited for a disney movie in such a long time. Onward looked to be up my alley at one time, but it was kind of a let down. It was good, yeah, but they dont have that "touch" they used to exude. Zootopia was a thing for me, but even that was kind of a let down. Again it was good, but still kind of preachy in its own way.

Fun/fantasy cartoons/movies need to just tell the story they are trying to tell. Be entertaining, and thats it. There should not be any underlying midden messages.

But it kind of makes you think. This may not really be a new cycle for disney. Consider the WWII cartoons they used to produce.

Someone made an observation in a Youtube video.
One of the critical reason if not the most critical reasons current year Disney's material is bland is because of memorable villains.
or LACK of memorable villains.
Why the old Disney classics were so memorable is because it had great villains the heroes needed to overcome.
The Wicked Queen from Snow White, the Stepmom from Cinderella, The evil enchantress from Sleeping Beauty.
Hell you have Ursela, Jafar, Scar, Claude Frollo, Hades . . . that pushed the main protagonists to go above and beyond.
This kept you engaged the entire film.
Current year Disney flicks either lack an over arching villain (like Onward or Turning Red) or a shallow Twist villain (Like Zootopia and Frozen) .
It seems like they are afraid to craft an actual villain.
Like for example why is The Incredibles 1 still memorable compared to it's sequel.
Syndrome was a phenomenal villain.
The villain in the sequel was just forgettable and had a questionable and self defeating motive.
The sequel was like Deactivate Super Heroes by ACTIVATING them? W-T-F

Zootopia had a LAZY twist villain. It could have been anybody from the cast like chief Bogo or even that fat cheetah at the front desk.
It wouldn't have made any difference.
A Twist villain written well was Mega Mind.
The villain was always a villain from the start of the story.
He was the clumsy underdog so we didn't see the threat but he was always a psycho if you paid attention.
It's when he got his super powers and was not afraid of negative consequences that he decided to act out.

Disney overall is afraid or lack the creative talent to take narrative risks.
Instead they compensate with beating your head ceaselessly with "The Message".

truth...

Vix

The recent massive layoffs and shakeups at Warner Studios proves that this can be fixed.
Unfortunately for us and as Bob Chapek also found out the hard way.
Disney's top shareholders are also woke.

Not only that, the CEO has said they only see animation for children, forgetting a large part of their audience.

Either the CEO is horribly out of touch with the product his company sells and its target customers or . . . he knows EXACTLY what he's doing.
Either way it's bad.

I think it's the former, decades of the Hay's code wreaked havoc on the image of animation and a lot of these older corporates still associate animation with only kid's films. The mass purging from animation from HBOmax is another example of this. It's also the sole reason why sausage party made headlines as parents assumed it was for kids because it was animated. TV tropes refers it to the Animation Age Ghetto

They've been carried in recent years by those terrible live-action remakes that too many people inexplicably pay to see. The good news is that:
1. They'll eventually run out of animated classics to remake.
2. A couple of the lesser ones have bombed, so maybe there's a little hope that the audiences are tiring of them.

The live action and highly forgettable TLK 2019 far outsold the classic 1994 in Box Office sales even adjusted with inflation.
So that's why I have little sympathy for Disney park goers being nickle and dimed while the quality of the park declines.
Also the fact that the live action schlock end up costing far more to produce than the animated counterparts
(even adjusting for inflation) really questions the rational of Bob Iger to close Disney's in house animation studio.
Even GC flicks like Lightyear and Strange World are far more expensive to produce than traditional hand drawn animation
which completely defeats the purpose of CG being cheaper than hand drawn animation.
Disney even pioneered the CG technology of "Style Transfer" making 3D look like hand drawn 2D animation with Paperman.
But Disney is too creatively bankrupt to do something different and take risk.
Having an aversion to taking risk and playing it save peddling the same thing
they are unable to fall back on something different once the audience gets tired of seeing the same shit.
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I think you hit the nail on the head.