if you whip one up, i'd be interested in checking it out! definitely up my alley :>

Thank you ^~^

Discords can be cool, I would certainly consider it!

I'm in that latter Discord and it's still a good Discord. What exactly is the issue? If it's the fact that there's only 1 channel dedicated to writing, I'm not sure how you'd go about fixing that issue?

Having your own Discord is definitely an option regardless. A lot of artists have their own Discords for their communities :3

I must disclaim that I am not being judgmental on the current state of things, I simply have anxieties as to what it'll end up like. 99% sure nothing would change and I'm sure they'll pick a good person to take it over, but I have concerns towards the current state of 'yeah let's have some Discord mods dox you' that is becoming prevalent on servers in general. And while some people have no issue with that, for me, I'll simply never give away my personal info or ID to any Discord mod, so from my POV, that would effectively leave me with another server I ain't going to anymore.

(To clarify, I'm not trying to be argumentative or anything at all, we have talked before and I 100% trust you are speaking in good faith, so I did not want to make it look like I'm just tossing shade for no reason)

As to the whole 'one channel for writing thing', the solution isn't coming to mind at the moment. I was just thinking something more focused on writing or interactives or so forth would be a good idea. Moreover, there's very little support for things like interactives on e621 for example, so I feel like the interactive-Twine medium is in a sorry state right now and perhaps some spotlight on that would be warranted.

Oh, I never assumed you were being judgemental. As for the ID thing, it'll never be a thing on the server in question, and as for that other server, I've warned that person that doing that has wider implications because Discord caches images and they've reverted to simply asking age instead of using ID.

Interactives are... Difficult to sort out in most cases, as it requires the GM to be online and available whenever someone tries to be part of the interactive. I've personally entertained the idea of starting an interactive myself, but it's hard because as said, I'd need to be available. The closest I've come to is long-form RP's, where the wider world is taken into consideration and NPC's are brought in.

There's nothing really stopping you from doing an interactive if you wanted to, you'd just have to occupy an RP channel and go from there - but that's for hosting. As for story-writing, I feel like there are better places than Discord to do that form of interactive.

Dunno.

You may know it'll never be a thing, by virtue of whatever information you're privy to, but as for myself, I have never received such assurances, so I'm not going to bank on it. Presuming we're talking about the right ones in the right order. Nonetheless, I'll keep what you said in mind and I think we shall leave it at that, since this doesn't affect my calculus all that much, but it does affect it.

But anyway, what I mean by interactive is Twine stories & other formats like Construct 2, etc., y'know the web browser ones. I would like to see more of those as well as even help/teach other people with regards to making them. I haven't really thought that particular bit over beyond that.

Though, yes, DM/GM stuff is cool and I have done it before. It's something I would also consider doing but it takes a certain degree of patience/consistency which I don't really have nowadays. However, I still have a passion for tinkering with dice games, so I think discussing and experimenting with rules for those and so forth would also be neat.

That being said, less image-y and more write-y is what I'm thinking. Probably a bit wider of a net than just CTF, because even I like a dash of variety!

I didn't receive assurances; it's more a fact that if they did it, there'd be severe backlash. I would make a new server duplicating the server we already have before we get "ID verification" and I can tell you that if I did that, there'd be no ID verification.

I know very little about Twine/Construct 2 or other such things, so I can't really say anything about that.

Yay variety!

We both understand it's a dumb idea, but that doesn't mean it's impossible--I am of the opinion the fact that it was considered/nearly implemented means it's still a thing that can happen at some point. But I really don't wanna harp on it--I normally keep my 'hot takes' to myself, but I was really annoyed by this turn of events, and to be honest this journal was going to be a lot less 'nuanced', but I digress--If you don't mind, I'm gonna pivot away from this particular line of conversation.

So, Twine. It's pretty cool. I actually think it's a lot better than RPG Maker for a lot of reasons and I think if there were things like some templates for RPGs and interactives on that format, then that would encourage more people to mess around with it. I've had a very distant goal/idea of maybe making some kind of 'RPG Maker' within Twine which would allow it to be even more user friendly for the user. Probably not a full fledged RPG but y'know at least a battle system or module. It'd be able to support a lot of different mechanics and so forth like vore and TF and whatnot, so anyone so inclined would just be able to slot their writing into the passages and it'd display whatever feedback text and so forth that the creator wants.

How does it work? Is it 3d or 2d or even text-based? My only experience with interactives have been Inform, Flexible Survival, or 2d like Corruption of Champions (though I wouldn't really say the latter counts)

Well, most of those HTML games like https://www.furaffinity.net/view/41153472/ Paladin's Horn are made in Twine, I've made both of my games with it, it generally looks text-based with UI. If you play around with UI and so forth, you can make it easily look like the original Corruption of Champions. Hmm well yeah, actually it pretty much is like Inform or Quest, but more meaty. Because it supports CSS and those other UI tidbitties.

I personally prefer to make it '2d-esque' by having sprites on a battlefield or so forth for the combat. But I have dabbled with making movement possible on a 2d/3d map, which was relatively easy to implement--Just mapping arrow keys to sprite movement, but I never tested collision detection since it was just an experiment, but it would probably be possible. Given valid coordinates, slap a background behind the screen, and it would be able to imitate RPG Maker's overworld sections.

But besides that limitation, I think it's better than RPG Maker because it's more flexible, easier to learn, and teaches you some code-y things, so it transitions better into using JavaScript for more advanced stuff. Whereas RPG Maker has a 'skill ceiling' of sorts where you need to download all these plugins just to make fancy status effects and the skills don't really carry over much.

Ah, I see. Fair :3

I briefly thought about the same idea, but monitoring a platform seems like more work than it is to just float around various themed servers to provide content for them to enjoy. *shrugs* who knows.

Oh for sure. Floating around also has the benefit of exposing more people to your content; advertising.

I think it kinda makes sense, from a business POV as an artist, to have your own self-promotion thingy. One possible application is 'flash sales' where you could do a YCH or some such via Discord (I've seen one guy do this). In your case, I would recommend a server, even a private one just for Patreon supporters or whatever could be real cool. You could talk to your fans and so forth, more importantly you can do things like circumvent a certain site from dumping your Patreon stuff as easily (I won't elaborate on that in public though). Additionally, it's a good measure if you're ever banned for some arbitrary reason which seems to be the case more and more nowadays (Patreon banning f*ral stuff, FA banning certain content or links to certain sites, Twitter just banning people at random for NSFW, pick your poison).

Id join your discord if you'd make one

Thank you! ^~^

if anything a tg channel would be better