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Why are people against AI?
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Why are people against AI?
1. Artificial Intelligence is a misnomer. Currently, humans have not yet discovered true artificial intelligence as theorized by the father of modern robotics, Isaac Asimov. True artificial Intelligence would need to be able to learn new concepts and develop those concepts internally with no input. They would need to truly understand these concepts. What we deal with in "AI Art" is simply a large quantity of logic gates and curated digital libraries. Calling computer generated images like what is made from programs like DALL-E, Art Breeder, and Stable Diffusion art is like saying that searching for a term on Google images results in a page that is a collage, rather than results and statistics coming together to display visual information representative of your terms.
2. "AI Art" is, upon inspection, unappealing, Lazy AF, clumsy, and uncanny. This can be seen in both a micro scale; with strange, blurry or even artificially complex details generated from noise; furthermore it can be seen on a macro scale. All AI images have a "look" to them, even across various art styles. "AI art" is largely very ugly and/or very forgettable beside the other flaws it is amazingly outstanding how people (usually young and very impressionable People) can find it "good" to this Souless creations, but that is just a revelation of the lack of actual appreciation and pure ignorance for what real art is, needs, requires, inspires Art!.
3. You can't source back to the original owner. Even if the owner of the art piece doesn't want their pieces shared, putting it through an AI algorithm can obfuscate the source. In some cases, the source can even be illegal to use such to copyrighted images.
Common "Arguments"
Artists Also use references. How is that any different from AI?
AI does not have any true thoughts or imagination. This claim is made in bad faith, or great ignorance. Image compositing programs are not true Artificial Intelligence because we do not currently have artificial Intelligence.
But people borrow art to put on profiles on all the time. It's basically the same thing.
When using AI Generated images, you obfuscate the source of the pieces used to make up said art. This is similar to removing the watermark from a piece of work, dialed up to eleven. There is truly no way to tell if your image is made up of art that is privately owned, was specifically commissioned, is of sentimental value to an individual, or worse, made up in part of an illegal to use as Copyrighted images.
But I put hard work into my prompts and provide my own images for it to use.
The machine still "learned" using art that it didn't get permission to use, in almost all cases. Despite thinking hard about your prompts and using your own images, you are still reaping the benefits of stolen art! that can never be sourced back to the original.
I'm only using it for a hobby/personal use. It's not a big deal.
Your use of AI does not exist in a vacuum. The more we use AI the more accepted it becomes, and the more likely it will be accepted and trained enough to use in commercial settings. This undervalues artists, can shatter unions, and could even put the creative world at risk. If you can use a bunch of computers to just make a product for you, why bother paying artists? Even if the quality of AI products results in something low quality, as long as it's good enough to publish, people will produce it. We need to put a stop to AI now while it's still largely at the independent and hobby level, specially if you want to become an artist yourself! or minimum appreciate other artists works.
I use them as references only cause I some times can't find images of what I need online
We get it your young broke and have not a gram of talent on your bones (so far), there any alternatives? they are, honestly if you can't find some thing on the internet its surely cause your looking for it wrong!. but pls for what ever you do at the moment here are some suggested alternatives. Picrew is a collection of dollmakers in various art styles, created by many users, almost all of which are happy to allow you to use their work for personal and hobby use if you need references. besides that fucking practice! anyone who has tried art has gone threw the "I don't have time", can seem to "get it right", "can't do it", "I am not good enough" STOPS SAYING THIS TO YOURSELF! That is what actually will make you appreciate ART! REAL ART! cause you will know all required to produce the real thing! you will never go further if you do not continue the pursuit of it and become better and instead use this shitty AI generators! its not just images on your computer you can fap to! they take time, work and dedication hours of skill development and inspiration.
"Como podria haber aqui Arte? Si no habian Artistas para Empezar?"
"How can there be Art here? if there were no Artists to begin with?"
.- Efraín Enrique Recinos Valenzuela (1928-2011)
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1. Artificial Intelligence is a misnomer. Currently, humans have not yet discovered true artificial intelligence as theorized by the father of modern robotics, Isaac Asimov. True artificial Intelligence would need to be able to learn new concepts and develop those concepts internally with no input. They would need to truly understand these concepts. What we deal with in "AI Art" is simply a large quantity of logic gates and curated digital libraries. Calling computer generated images like what is made from programs like DALL-E, Art Breeder, and Stable Diffusion art is like saying that searching for a term on Google images results in a page that is a collage, rather than results and statistics coming together to display visual information representative of your terms.
2. "AI Art" is, upon inspection, unappealing, Lazy AF, clumsy, and uncanny. This can be seen in both a micro scale; with strange, blurry or even artificially complex details generated from noise; furthermore it can be seen on a macro scale. All AI images have a "look" to them, even across various art styles. "AI art" is largely very ugly and/or very forgettable beside the other flaws it is amazingly outstanding how people (usually young and very impressionable People) can find it "good" to this Souless creations, but that is just a revelation of the lack of actual appreciation and pure ignorance for what real art is, needs, requires, inspires Art!.
3. You can't source back to the original owner. Even if the owner of the art piece doesn't want their pieces shared, putting it through an AI algorithm can obfuscate the source. In some cases, the source can even be illegal to use such to copyrighted images.
Common "Arguments"
Artists Also use references. How is that any different from AI?
AI does not have any true thoughts or imagination. This claim is made in bad faith, or great ignorance. Image compositing programs are not true Artificial Intelligence because we do not currently have artificial Intelligence.
But people borrow art to put on profiles on all the time. It's basically the same thing.
When using AI Generated images, you obfuscate the source of the pieces used to make up said art. This is similar to removing the watermark from a piece of work, dialed up to eleven. There is truly no way to tell if your image is made up of art that is privately owned, was specifically commissioned, is of sentimental value to an individual, or worse, made up in part of an illegal to use as Copyrighted images.
But I put hard work into my prompts and provide my own images for it to use.
The machine still "learned" using art that it didn't get permission to use, in almost all cases. Despite thinking hard about your prompts and using your own images, you are still reaping the benefits of stolen art! that can never be sourced back to the original.
I'm only using it for a hobby/personal use. It's not a big deal.
Your use of AI does not exist in a vacuum. The more we use AI the more accepted it becomes, and the more likely it will be accepted and trained enough to use in commercial settings. This undervalues artists, can shatter unions, and could even put the creative world at risk. If you can use a bunch of computers to just make a product for you, why bother paying artists? Even if the quality of AI products results in something low quality, as long as it's good enough to publish, people will produce it. We need to put a stop to AI now while it's still largely at the independent and hobby level, specially if you want to become an artist yourself! or minimum appreciate other artists works.
I use them as references only cause I some times can't find images of what I need online
We get it your young broke and have not a gram of talent on your bones (so far), there any alternatives? they are, honestly if you can't find some thing on the internet its surely cause your looking for it wrong!. but pls for what ever you do at the moment here are some suggested alternatives. Picrew is a collection of dollmakers in various art styles, created by many users, almost all of which are happy to allow you to use their work for personal and hobby use if you need references. besides that fucking practice! anyone who has tried art has gone threw the "I don't have time", can seem to "get it right", "can't do it", "I am not good enough" STOPS SAYING THIS TO YOURSELF! That is what actually will make you appreciate ART! REAL ART! cause you will know all required to produce the real thing! you will never go further if you do not continue the pursuit of it and become better and instead use this shitty AI generators! its not just images on your computer you can fap to! they take time, work and dedication hours of skill development and inspiration.
"Como podria haber aqui Arte? Si no habian Artistas para Empezar?"
"How can there be Art here? if there were no Artists to begin with?"
.- Efraín Enrique Recinos Valenzuela (1928-2011)
If you want more Info check the Link
Threats To The Furry Fandom
And Share it if you can.
Another issue is that "AI" is a concept, not an implementation. People love to say that visual AI systems generate completely new content rather than steal from existing works, and totally does not use collage methods. Well, the truth is that each AI implementation is different, and unless you can see the source code, you don't know if it infringes or cheats.
In practice, the AI systems based on stable diffusion, like those from academic circles, tend to produce weird results and nightmare fuel. The "cheating" AI systems, like the ones used by commercial AI companies, are the ones that produce impressive results. Take a guess as to why. It's always easier to cheat than to do things the hard way, and AI doesn't have consciousnesses or a sense of ethics. The "good" AI systems certainly do infringe. I've seen plenty of AI images that have nearly perfect perspective and correct source lighting, as well as smeared or distorted signatures from artists. I mean, give me a break.
It's going to take a while for us to sort out this mess, and it's not going to be easy.
Also AI learn faster than human, like thousand times faster,,, it will took just a year or two for ai to reach higher like what they are now in chess industry.