About AI and furry art
a year ago
I wrote a big ol' essay about this because I think it's an important subject: https://open.substack.com/pub/kyell.....e-in-a-society
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Happy New Year everyone!!
And hey, I appreciate all y'all still watching me over here. In 2024 I'm going to try to remember to post more stuff here, but in the meantime if you want to keep up on all the updates about my work, and get writing tips, head on over to http://kyellgold.substack.com where I post three times a month about stuff.
Happy New Year everyone!!
In my somewhat limited opinion, I think your view of the fandom as a whole and empathy within comes from a position of survivor bias. For example (this is a bit heavy), in the past I made a suicide attempt and created a journal about it. What followed was several messages and comments calling me a liar, that I was attention seeking, etc. Despite the fact that I went through with the attempt.
More recently, when I shared the three AI images on Twitter, I was bombarded with comments calling me inbred, a moron, all manner of disgusting things, and even started receiving death threat DMs from dodgy accounts. Naturally, I responded with hostility to those responses. Why would I be polite in the face of that? But politely to people who were also polite (leading to me changing my mind). However, since then I have been blocked by several artists who I have supported financially, who I have known for decades, without any dialogue or conversation.
Up until that point, I had spent thousands of USD on art, supporting the community both financial, and individual members where I could when they were going through a hard time.
It's worth mentioning that I have ASD (and I'm open about this) and severe recurrent depression, and the symptoms of ASD make it particularly difficult to deal with the kind of large-scale pile on that I experienced earlier this year. More recently I lost my income and face homelessness in the near future. My life has been quite difficult and I had my own reasons for being excited about AI image generators at the time. For example, the future potential of these technologies to bring my characters to life and let me lead a life that brought me hope in a way that I had previously not had.
I'm not sure where you got the idea that furries largely support each other and that artists are the ones with empathy in this situation. The response I got exposed the fact that the majority of people in this dialogue have absolutely zero empathy or care about what the other person believes, regardless of their position. Since then it has left me (and others I have spoken to) in a position where we have stepped back from the furry community, and are unlikely to financially support it in the future.
Many furries are perfectly lovely and empathetic, and I have great friends in the community, but this whole experience has left me severely disillusioned with it, especially given my current circumstances.
It is one thing when people who have been told how it uses art theft and skimming non-consensual artists work to make stuff and try to defend it anyway, but I always try to give people the benefit of the doubt at least at first. Glad that some level heads were able to talk to you and hope that the anger for a honest mistake has died down since then. I will never in my life understand how anyone can resort to death threats over art, AI or not.
Additionally, when I saw the statement by "the OP", my immediate thought was that they have a fundamental misunderstanding of art, the art market, and why people buy art. "Just get better at art" will never solve the problem of artists losing jobs to AI, as it isn't amateur artists who stand to lose the most from AI -- it's high-skill artists who are at risk of losing their jobs & livelihood. I am firmly an amateur artist, and rarely do people pay for my art. If they do, it's more because they want to support me as a person rather than that they necessarily crave things in "my style". Thus, I do not feel threatened by AI. But I am terrified for my high-skill artist friends whose entire livelihood revolves around their art and ability to gain professional clients seeking book covers, interior illustrations, concept art, etc. It's their art that's being fed into the AI meat machine, and its their art it is trying to emulate, not the things that amateurs and hobbyists do for fun. They have every right to be terrified, and those who say otherwise do not understand business (we have already seen big companies cutting corners by using AI "art"!) or art.