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Fed up, annoyed, and time to squash this b.s.
a year ago
"Power over others is the way of cowards...
(IF YOU'RE FROM THE OKC FURRIES GROUP AND YOU KNOW YOUR LITTLE CLIQUE YOU'RE IN,
FUCK YOU TO! COME AT ME, BECAUSE I LITERALLY HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE! I'M THOROUGHLY FED
UP, ALONG WITH COUNTLESS OTHER FURS WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED YOUR BULLSHIT!)
Be warned, if you move from a different state and want to come to Oklahoma, be aware there
are some people that will do what they can to ruin your reputation, (and typically ban you and delete
any conversation you had with them so you can't record their bullshit) for their gain. Trust me, I know, and I've had enough!
TL;DR:
-Joined a few fur groups in Oklahoma
-Get blocked by a few people
-Convention starts up, already negative information comes up about me
-Word is I'm handsy, invading people's space, weird and a stalker (Lol, you guys who personally know me, know that's b.s.)
-Apparently I was going around not asking permission to hug people. (In or out of suit, doesn't matter.)
-Get banned from the 18+ OKC chat in less than 2 hours
-After the convention, more b.s. comes up about me
-Get told by a friend who's con staff of basically some extra bullshit
-Get blocked by a few more people
-Banned from, (currently 2, total of 3 now) chats with poor reasoning
-Reason: "Behavior towards a mod that required someone to remove them from the situation.
Just fuck off in general." <- Exact phrase
-Conclusion: Nearly countless other furs have had the same experience, albeit not this exact situation, but being banned for
basically no reason at all and have agreed that these people are seriously toxic.
If you care to read more:
Through all this, there really isn't any issues that convention staff had heard or noticed.
I have been reassured that there hasn't been any physical reports by people specifically about me,
during the time I was at a recent convention. Yes, good news, but I bet it won't stop there, so
I'm posting this just so I can warn others who decide to move here, or join the groups.
I'm not saying I'm perfect, but by no means am I'm going to idle here and be ousted because of
some circle jerk snowflakes who want to smear my name, (and other people who have had the
same issue) with these stupid clique of furs. I don't mean to be putting some drama out, but
It's kind of fucked that being on a large hiatus for 5 years from the fandom, (mostly not
attending conventions, furmeets or other large gatherings due to military stuff) that I return
and be welcomed like this!
When I had first joined the group here in this state, I had felt something was off, and didn't feel
welcomed. So I figured something was strange, and sure enough I was right.
Yes, there are other furs who have had the same experience with this clique as far as
being randomly banned for no apparent reason. I'm just sticking up for majority of these
other furs who have been hurt by their actions, but don't want to be involved or have ignored their stupidity. But
I prefer newer members not be affected by their actions, so I'm making a stand.
Again, I'm just fed up at this point because if they're ousting me, so be it. I'll return the favor
and post a few names that those should be weary of. Gladly! (Obviously I won't post it here, since FA is pretty strict
about that. Though you can look at some of the information here: https://twitter.com/Jibade_Najja/st.....37836671435226)
Do I care? No. Do I expect any backlash? Sure. But again, I'm not going to just sit here and have
others who come out here to have their experiences ruined due to these individuals who think they
can't do no wrong!
Basic information, but to get clarity on the situation:
Some of the conversations I had with some of these people are straight forward, sure. I've been told I'm persistent,
but some of you know I don't do it with harm and care about many of those in the fandom.
Either way, here's what has happened:
-When I arrive at the convention, I had a con-roommate who is staff, (thankfully) who had gave me a heads up about some
negative information going around about me. He did explain to other staff that I had been in the fandom prior before the
pandemic, and knows that a lot of shit has been fucked since after the pandemic. He assured I was good, but I knew there
was going to be more stupidity to come. (Basically the accusations are I am weird, invading people's spaces, handsy and a stalker.)
I was told to join a 18+ OKC group, and not even within 2 hours, I get banned. (I only got at least about 4
messages in the chat total.) There have been countless other furs who have been through this same exact type of random bans
with no proper reason and that NONE OF THESE INDIVIDUALS HAVE HAD A PROBLEM WITH ME, WHAT SO EVER! They even
said that these individuals are making the state of Oklahoma furries a toxic environment with their attitudes!
-Fast forward to about almost two weeks into February. My con-roommate had addressed me again and said this:
"AFAIK people said you were being very “handsy “ with people and not asking to touch or just in general being too close to others.
I remember you telling me you are used to old cons where people would be up on each other all the time but AnEx and TTFC did
away with that sort of content years ago due to the amount of young people who show up now."
(Which this is CLEARLY understandable about the young people, but I have NO affiliations with minors. Period! And I did
not realize that this has now become the "norm" for both of these conventions.)
"So basically the only real way you’d be able to redeem yourself would be to talk to staff and apologize for the behavior. I’m still trying to gather what I can from telegram"
(Which I don't plan on apologizing for doing anything wrong. If people want to get emotional about with their "reason", then
it carries absolutely no evidence, what so ever! And it is their own personal problem!)
Literally every single person, in or out of suit, I made sure to ask or verified about touching, hugging, etc. after I had been
told about the situation the first time while at the convention. (Which was the first day of that convention, and after that I did
the proper procedures.) If my behavior is a problem, then I guess being friendly/nice is a fucking crime!
-2nd. chat I get banned from, which was a chat made for certain cities that people live near or in. This happened after I had my
con-roommate explain the information above and the ban reasoning was, as it says in the TL;DR:
"Behavior towards a mod that required someone to remove them from the situation. Just fuck off in general."
Very "professional", if you ask me.
Which then I have another individual who I was friends with, blocked me, and then kicked me out of their own small group
that I was a part of. (Which again, one of the people that was in that group chat, didn't even notice I was gone, and was
surprised by the b.s. that I had explained to them.)
Since then, there are at least 6 people I have listed on "X", as one of them just recently deleted our conversation
and blocked me, after I had mentioned about these accusations against me. (Which they've shown their true colors.)
Now, if you read this far, great! I appreciate it, and did my best to narrow down the important parts. So if you or anyone else hears
anything about me, (Jibade/Anyx) make sure you do your own research first to see what's really going on. And to be honest
these people in this clique, if they don't like you, they'll do shit like this to anyone.
FUCK YOU TO! COME AT ME, BECAUSE I LITERALLY HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE! I'M THOROUGHLY FED
UP, ALONG WITH COUNTLESS OTHER FURS WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED YOUR BULLSHIT!)
Be warned, if you move from a different state and want to come to Oklahoma, be aware there
are some people that will do what they can to ruin your reputation, (and typically ban you and delete
any conversation you had with them so you can't record their bullshit) for their gain. Trust me, I know, and I've had enough!
TL;DR:
-Joined a few fur groups in Oklahoma
-Get blocked by a few people
-Convention starts up, already negative information comes up about me
-Word is I'm handsy, invading people's space, weird and a stalker (Lol, you guys who personally know me, know that's b.s.)
-Apparently I was going around not asking permission to hug people. (In or out of suit, doesn't matter.)
-Get banned from the 18+ OKC chat in less than 2 hours
-After the convention, more b.s. comes up about me
-Get told by a friend who's con staff of basically some extra bullshit
-Get blocked by a few more people
-Banned from, (currently 2, total of 3 now) chats with poor reasoning
-Reason: "Behavior towards a mod that required someone to remove them from the situation.
Just fuck off in general." <- Exact phrase
-Conclusion: Nearly countless other furs have had the same experience, albeit not this exact situation, but being banned for
basically no reason at all and have agreed that these people are seriously toxic.
If you care to read more:
Through all this, there really isn't any issues that convention staff had heard or noticed.
I have been reassured that there hasn't been any physical reports by people specifically about me,
during the time I was at a recent convention. Yes, good news, but I bet it won't stop there, so
I'm posting this just so I can warn others who decide to move here, or join the groups.
I'm not saying I'm perfect, but by no means am I'm going to idle here and be ousted because of
some circle jerk snowflakes who want to smear my name, (and other people who have had the
same issue) with these stupid clique of furs. I don't mean to be putting some drama out, but
It's kind of fucked that being on a large hiatus for 5 years from the fandom, (mostly not
attending conventions, furmeets or other large gatherings due to military stuff) that I return
and be welcomed like this!
When I had first joined the group here in this state, I had felt something was off, and didn't feel
welcomed. So I figured something was strange, and sure enough I was right.
Yes, there are other furs who have had the same experience with this clique as far as
being randomly banned for no apparent reason. I'm just sticking up for majority of these
other furs who have been hurt by their actions, but don't want to be involved or have ignored their stupidity. But
I prefer newer members not be affected by their actions, so I'm making a stand.
Again, I'm just fed up at this point because if they're ousting me, so be it. I'll return the favor
and post a few names that those should be weary of. Gladly! (Obviously I won't post it here, since FA is pretty strict
about that. Though you can look at some of the information here: https://twitter.com/Jibade_Najja/st.....37836671435226)
Do I care? No. Do I expect any backlash? Sure. But again, I'm not going to just sit here and have
others who come out here to have their experiences ruined due to these individuals who think they
can't do no wrong!
Basic information, but to get clarity on the situation:
Some of the conversations I had with some of these people are straight forward, sure. I've been told I'm persistent,
but some of you know I don't do it with harm and care about many of those in the fandom.
Either way, here's what has happened:
-When I arrive at the convention, I had a con-roommate who is staff, (thankfully) who had gave me a heads up about some
negative information going around about me. He did explain to other staff that I had been in the fandom prior before the
pandemic, and knows that a lot of shit has been fucked since after the pandemic. He assured I was good, but I knew there
was going to be more stupidity to come. (Basically the accusations are I am weird, invading people's spaces, handsy and a stalker.)
I was told to join a 18+ OKC group, and not even within 2 hours, I get banned. (I only got at least about 4
messages in the chat total.) There have been countless other furs who have been through this same exact type of random bans
with no proper reason and that NONE OF THESE INDIVIDUALS HAVE HAD A PROBLEM WITH ME, WHAT SO EVER! They even
said that these individuals are making the state of Oklahoma furries a toxic environment with their attitudes!
-Fast forward to about almost two weeks into February. My con-roommate had addressed me again and said this:
"AFAIK people said you were being very “handsy “ with people and not asking to touch or just in general being too close to others.
I remember you telling me you are used to old cons where people would be up on each other all the time but AnEx and TTFC did
away with that sort of content years ago due to the amount of young people who show up now."
(Which this is CLEARLY understandable about the young people, but I have NO affiliations with minors. Period! And I did
not realize that this has now become the "norm" for both of these conventions.)
"So basically the only real way you’d be able to redeem yourself would be to talk to staff and apologize for the behavior. I’m still trying to gather what I can from telegram"
(Which I don't plan on apologizing for doing anything wrong. If people want to get emotional about with their "reason", then
it carries absolutely no evidence, what so ever! And it is their own personal problem!)
Literally every single person, in or out of suit, I made sure to ask or verified about touching, hugging, etc. after I had been
told about the situation the first time while at the convention. (Which was the first day of that convention, and after that I did
the proper procedures.) If my behavior is a problem, then I guess being friendly/nice is a fucking crime!
-2nd. chat I get banned from, which was a chat made for certain cities that people live near or in. This happened after I had my
con-roommate explain the information above and the ban reasoning was, as it says in the TL;DR:
"Behavior towards a mod that required someone to remove them from the situation. Just fuck off in general."
Very "professional", if you ask me.
Which then I have another individual who I was friends with, blocked me, and then kicked me out of their own small group
that I was a part of. (Which again, one of the people that was in that group chat, didn't even notice I was gone, and was
surprised by the b.s. that I had explained to them.)
Since then, there are at least 6 people I have listed on "X", as one of them just recently deleted our conversation
and blocked me, after I had mentioned about these accusations against me. (Which they've shown their true colors.)
Now, if you read this far, great! I appreciate it, and did my best to narrow down the important parts. So if you or anyone else hears
anything about me, (Jibade/Anyx) make sure you do your own research first to see what's really going on. And to be honest
these people in this clique, if they don't like you, they'll do shit like this to anyone.
Seems like you already know the routine.
Props.
Every state has their own furry group chats with different names, it's just OKC is the name
of main ones that people typically join when they're here in this state.
But it was funny though, which is why I find it ironic as well that you said that.
It's like foreshadowing in a way, and you didn't even realize it.
Oh, and just a little hint, one of the names I mentioned on "X" actually live down there. (If you're still there.)
BDSM related fetishes and most of those names listed are specific Telegram entries.
I would let others know though, as that person is from that state you're in and I don't want people to
start having issues if they start having any...mental problems.
*hugs*
These bastards should be doing the apologizing for who they're fucking with.
I have 0 tolerance for these people. They want to oust my name? Cool, so be
it.
https://tenor.com/bsAwK.gif
You get all the love though. *Hugs back*
Gotta make sure I had permission though!
But from what I had been told, it has progressively gotten worse here.
And usually the groups here tend to be a lot smaller compared to Texas.
I just know I never had an issue when I used to live in Virginia, but just feeling
unwelcomed has been rather frustrating since I haven't even lived here for
that long.
Though there should be stable and welcoming groups for every state, so others
can avoid this type of problem.
No, no, no, no. Wait, wait, wait! Don't bring them here!
Ha! Jokes aside though, there is recreational marijuana use here, and I did
have an idea. Some liked the idea, others were skeptical. (Even though one of them
actually did the exact same thing I had thought of.)
Their excuse? "Didn't want to smoke with strangers". I mean...the whole damn fandom
is full if "strangers". But as one person told me, it's the escapism everyone wants. So I
know exactly how you feel.
Hope you'll be fine tho.
Almost as if they force any group to join their's. Guess the good groups need
to keep it on the down low. But I may have an idea.
Thanks for the hope, though.
I was actually at one of the meets from last year, when the police apparently got involved.
No one would tell me what happened, which is funny.
I just wanted to make sure if everything was ok. All I know is, we were told we had to leave
in a large group and not leave alone.
Makes me think. 🤔
But I do know the one fur mentioned in your Tweet has a major attitude problem, a higher than thou superiority complex and a "my shit don't stink" complex. Pretty much thinks they're better than everyone else and everyone else around em is scum.
Though with the people listed from twitter, I know there had been many others who have told me about their
background as well. Again, I just want any new, returning or passerby's to not have to run into this problem.
Hopefully I can come up with some idea so this doesn't continuously happen.
I've known you for a long time and I know you can be a little forward (name me one military person who isn't 🤣 I'm guilty of it too lol) l. The problem is, these prats are intimidated by someone being forward with them, they're society inept. I'd dare say they have a mental problem but that would be an insult and mockery of individuals who have legit mental health concerns.
I was in the STL furs chat, SFW and 18+ and the few times I would interact (once a bluemoon or so) I was met with lifted browlines and in most cases outright ignored or existing/active conversation railroaded because some slut wanted attention for the 'aweful cruise partner he/she just had' (side note, I find it annoyingly contradictive to be in a smut chat based on meeting locals to shag... And when someone takes them up on the offer, they clam up and screech how their privacy has been violated... That's a special kind of asinine stupidity and one of the few things that genuinely get me riled up.)
I didn't last 2 months before I left both of them and the admins (I know all of them personally) asked why I left. I explained my concerns and most of them left me alone however, one of them will still occasionally try to bring me back.
You leaving those bunch of losers is a blessing. The community as a whole is not like that but as the others before have said, be weary of local group chats. They're often an echo chambers that are often not a No Strings Attached (NSA) interaction. I.e: local politics may drive most of them, for example and if you seemingly or positively sway away from what they think should be a cordial interaction, you'll be ousted and exiled without contest.
This. This! It's almost exactly what happened, (or what I've noticed has been happening.)
Though I did leave the group, (while also being banned from others with no valid reason) I already knew it was best anyway. Since others have
experienced the same thing. At least I still know someone from staff at 1 of the conventions here, I hopefully won't have to be to worried about
being banned from a convention.
You at least know me being straight forward, persistent from what I had also been told, but I guess it helps in the long run.
At least I have a roommate who knows the issues that are arising within the fandom itself. You're not wrong though, some of
it does have to deal with mental related issues, but the pettiness as well.
I dated you, Star. I know you're a cool guy. Hell, we owned a sim on Second Life together for a time. We may not have worked out as a couple, but you're still one of my very good friends.
to deal with from being on hiatus.
I get it, there's a lot of this that happens everywhere, but the main point of me getting back into the
fandom was to get away from it all. Not come back into the same situation.
there was a point police had arrived and dealt with furries last year.
No need to apologize though, just another way of being welcomed, I guess.