Thats an oof. Honestly I use to like their stuff as well before I started seeing some not so great things. Then seeing this account you shared is a big yikes/oof. Like character designs are great and all but ooof the person behind them- It's why I steered clear from associating with the show/fanbase as much.

She seems a vile person and the first impression of the shows seems a red flag. The creator has a dark or creepy mental mindset. The show and fanbase are very contradictory vibe and not mature in mannerism.

The fan base I rather be in stem, toy story or accounting world.

Creepy person oof

I know that a lot of the stuff about her is blown out of proportion and cherrypicked to look as bad as possible, so I'd take it all with a heaping pile of salt. ESPECIALLY coming from Twatter. People there love causing problems and taking stuff entirely out of context. They also love leaving time out of it because people who said stupid shit in the past can often change a lot over the years.

Twatterites will take the joke about how important commas are and claim that you are trying to eat your grandma with screenshots. (The joke I am using as an analogy, for context: https://cdn.someecards.com/someecar.....M5MTliZjk2.png)

I have been accused of defending a pedophile after telling people to sit down, shut up and listen and outright stating that cancel culture needs to stop. Context was that I was telling people to sit down, shut up, and listen to the alleged victim, who was being talked over and being directly harmed by the massive wave of harassment, and being entirely dismissed and ignored... which was causing her massive amounts of stress and emotional pain .... and them attacking her as much as the alleged pedo was doing way more harm than good. On top of that, it entirely buried any potential proof with nothing but harassment and arguing.

The point I am getting at, with all this rambling, is all they showed was the parts that looked absolutely HORRIBLE, with all the context taken out and the worst parts cherry-picked from conversations. And the exact same thing has done the rounds about Vivzie several times. It's been a thing to hate on Vivzie for ages. I don't know her, I don't know what sort of person she is, but I've seen several claims about her refuted in the past, time and time again. I also inherently distrust anything spouted in Twatter threads because it's Twatter and people there just like to be reactionary for attention.

Also... people are just awful. 99.99% of the human race is a trash. You wonder why so many cool things are made by shitty people? That is because people are shit in general. Maybe I sound cynical and jaded, but I have very good reason.

i do agree there are some that are cherry picked and shit but in general hearing that she hired an SA fetishist (allegedly) makes me very uncomfy idk how true that even is anyway friend showed me like beastiality she drew with a minor and im like uuugh

Honestly, if it's fictional art, I would just ignore it. IF somebody did draw something like that, ick? But like, better that than actual people or animals being hurt. And I saw some of the claims about the "pedo" art bouncing around a few years ago, and the character was 18. Some of it was just down to the style at that time, she did a lot of art that, because of her toony style, looked younger than the character really was ... and one of the others that was bounced around as "proof"... were minors drawn NSFW while she herself was a minor. I drew a 12 year old kissing an adult teacher... when I was 12. And had a crush on my adult teacher. Granted that was WELL before I had access to the internet, so the old doodle is nowhere to be found, was thrown out ages ago. But, I bet you cash if I had posted it, any enemy I could potentially make would turn around and use it against me and conveniently leave out that I was a minor myself when I drew it. That's the problem with twitter... 99% of the context is completely left out, and the past is dug up again and again.

I won't defend any bad behavior she did do, of course; she very much SHOULD be held accountable for anything she did, but, I also won't turn around and hold all that stuff against her when most of it is entirely unproven, what is "proven" is taken vastly out of context, and a vast majority of it was 10+ years old. We should absolutely not have our past come back and bite us in the ass after ten years because who we are now is not at all who we were then. And I feel that goes for her as well; she may be behind a popular show that has a fanbase that can be really icky, but she's still a human being and does not deserve to go through rounds and rounds of cancelling for past behaviors. I hope that makes sense! (And doesn't come off as me condoning or defending shitty behavior xD)

I always wanted to draw one of the characters form that show, but I always ruled agenst it because besides the characters I don't like anything about it...

tons and tons of stuff is just a smear campain.
dont believe everything you read on the internet
tbh i didnt go through this twitter because i cant be arsed, several years ago the same shit was attempted to make her look like a horrible person with shit that happened 10 years ago. some dedicated haters wont stop yappin. peak losers.

i've seen some of beastiality with a minor done by her ... plus the SA stuff shouldn't even be in it.

was that recent or over half a decade ago. these allegations were largely exegerated and taken out of context iirc
i also havent kept up with any drama since the pilot for hazbin hotel dropped because 99% was as I said earlier just to throw shade and ruin the success for hazbin hotel.

Vivzie has been a piece of shit for a long, long time and i've had to force myself to ignore her existence for the sake of enjoying the shows so my friends will include me in their discussions

I had a personal run-in with her years and years ago which was NOT pleasant and was what stopped me from creating art for nearly 10 years.

People will say 'omg so much smearing you cant trust the internet!!!!' but uh. yeah. Vivzie is a person I would stay away from.

Most of the stuff I've seen is either blown out of proportion or entirely false. Twitter is garbage and people will do everything in their power online to start hate campaigns. That being said, I'm sure she's done some bad shit, that's human beings for you. The bestiality/pedo thing: after TONS of searching the only thing I can find is a drawing of some person sitting in a tub filled with snakes (no visible nudity or indication that the person is underage) that was apparently drawn over a decade ago, bit of a stretch. I'm still gonna watch the show because I like it and because I take everything I see online with a grain of salt.