What To The Slave Is The 4th Of July?
a year ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wtf.....&t=28s
Originally given on April fifth 1852
The text of his whole speech:
https://loveman.sdsu.edu/docs/1852F.....ckDouglass.pdf
The Fourth of July has always made me uneasy, and it's always been a really weird day for me.
To some degree I'd trace this back to having been raised in Berkeley California during the sixties, when the US war on Vietnam and the protests against it were raging. I saw it on the TV every night. The effects of our misguided imperialist and anticommunist policies were on full display, and this made me a lifelong crusader against war.
By the time I was ten or twelve I was refusing to stand for the national anthem or the pledge of allegiance, or to recite that. I haven't done those things once since then.This has led to uncomfortable situations, more for others than myself, I suspect. I get a lot of looks, and even my ex GF didn't like it.
I don't like flag waving, or blind patriotism or nationalism anywhere. Nationalism is too right wing for me. Regarding the US, I see it as a sign of our colonialism, imperialism, and hegemonic jingoism, as well as American exceptionalism. Our rampant flag waving literally makes me queasy. A great example of that was the explosion of that post 9/11. There were so many cheap Chinese made plastic flags everywhere that it became common to see pieces of them as litter.
I wish that one day I could feel good about seeing our flag, or be proud of the US, but that's not likely to happen in my lifetime.
Another odd thing about the Fourth of July is that it ended up being the day my dad died in 1997. When that happened I said to myself "No wonder this has always been a weird day for me."
America - Laibach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6Y.....&t=52s
Originally given on April fifth 1852
The text of his whole speech:
https://loveman.sdsu.edu/docs/1852F.....ckDouglass.pdf
The Fourth of July has always made me uneasy, and it's always been a really weird day for me.
To some degree I'd trace this back to having been raised in Berkeley California during the sixties, when the US war on Vietnam and the protests against it were raging. I saw it on the TV every night. The effects of our misguided imperialist and anticommunist policies were on full display, and this made me a lifelong crusader against war.
By the time I was ten or twelve I was refusing to stand for the national anthem or the pledge of allegiance, or to recite that. I haven't done those things once since then.This has led to uncomfortable situations, more for others than myself, I suspect. I get a lot of looks, and even my ex GF didn't like it.
I don't like flag waving, or blind patriotism or nationalism anywhere. Nationalism is too right wing for me. Regarding the US, I see it as a sign of our colonialism, imperialism, and hegemonic jingoism, as well as American exceptionalism. Our rampant flag waving literally makes me queasy. A great example of that was the explosion of that post 9/11. There were so many cheap Chinese made plastic flags everywhere that it became common to see pieces of them as litter.
I wish that one day I could feel good about seeing our flag, or be proud of the US, but that's not likely to happen in my lifetime.
Another odd thing about the Fourth of July is that it ended up being the day my dad died in 1997. When that happened I said to myself "No wonder this has always been a weird day for me."
America - Laibach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6Y.....&t=52s
FA+

-They only care about free speech when they’re the ones talking, but whenever the people they don’t like suddenly start using those same rights to give them backlash, suddenly free speech no longer matters, not for those groups.
-They only care about guns whenever they’re the ones who are armed, all so they can have whatever power enables them to shoot down people they don’t like, but when the people they don’t like suddenly start arming themselves, suddenly they don’t want as many guns around, not if it means those people now have the means to defend themselves.
-They only care about voting rights when they get to vote in their districts, but when the people they don’t like want to vote, they’ll resort to gerrymandering and all kinds of voter disenfranchisement, all to ensure that those people don’t get to have a say in how policy is made.
It’s not about rights or freedoms, it never was, it’s all about having more power over the “other” and making sure the other can’t fight back.
Also, Juneteenth is in my opinion the real American independence day.
And today on July 4th, the British people declared their independence from 14 years of Tory rule.. although Keir Starmer's Labour Party is a huge downgrade from Corbyn's. Keir's Labours are like Tories in red. For a meaningful change and progress, Greens, SNP, and/or Workers Party GB are needed. Though the system will never let them win.
Starmer strikes me as rather conservative for a labour member. This is rather reminiscent of the Dems and the bipartite system here.
Corbyn was much better as far as I can see. Like here, he was attacked as an antisemite by Zionists for supporting Palestine. Pathetic.
https://www.thenational.scot/news/2.....n-only-spaces/
Another bad news is that George Galloway, the most vocal pro-Palestine MP, lost his seat. The far-right Reform Party won 13 seats.
https://x.com/CAGEintl/status/1721287628396347816
He's a grifter too. It's probably another "meet the new boss, same as the old boss" situation.
And I can't see anything on Xitter because I'm not on there and they recently made it so that anyone who isn't signed up there can't see anything.
How about that Macron, though? -Talk about a dumb idea...
I recently got a new 'puter, so I can see it now.
EDIT: But I don't live in the UK so it doesn't matter that much to me anyways.
And in my area everyone voted Tory...then again most people in my area are inbred freaks who barely know the world beyond their crumbling towns.
Maybe idea of a nation overall is just unecessary and people would be better off without it.
Definitely a hard thing to achieve, but If we don't dream it, we'll never do it.
About hard to achieve dreams I just want to sleep all day. Probably couldn't do that even without the state, or it could be even harder.
...yes, another Evil Plan is afoot.
I am personally dedicated to giving voice to the silent, the oppressed, and the less heard. But you may have noticed that.
And praise science!
along with the bounty of your usual and ever welcome clarity of vision
and depth of understanding!
Douglass' speech is sobering and timeless. I believe you have shared it with us
at one point, but something like that can never be brought to the public attention
too often.
I feel your stance on this, and, having started my exploration of the U.S. culture
in the years of George W. Bush, I have had my inoculation against
the angry blind patriotic rage, even though my home region
is likewise rife with examples of the same pompous belligerence.
However, looking at the U.S. from the place where brutality and tyranny,
hypocrisy, deceitful propaganda and murderous ideologies
have long thrived, I can appreciate some virtues of your country
without dismissing its sins.
While imperfect, fragmentary, disgraced and blood-stained,
controlled by the petty privileged elites disdainful of their marginalized countrymen,
the democratic systems of the Western world
do at least provide the safe haven for the humanist thought
and practices that benefit the world, although they are
far from being the only beacons of freedom and justice
shining across the oceans of our planet.
For all those artists, scientists, journalists, politicians and activists
who, although censored and intimidated,
could still do their heroic work,
and who have paved the way
for so many civic institutions
that have shaped the ethics across the world,
I can find it in me to keep a flame of gratitude
for the European and post-European countries.
I think it is possible to celebrate this day as a U.S. American
while still being mindful of the country's history,
not exclusively honoring one nation, but the ideal,
the torch of Statue of Liberty, and not the sword of manifest destiny.
But given my own attitude towards my own country,
which has also given some good to the world over the years,
I can fully appreciate the rejection of any grand and indiscriminate
festivals of unthinking praise for something so complicated
and burdened with indisputable horrifying evil.
May those who make it their life's work
to give meaning to the words "Liberty and Justice for All"
feel appreciated and righteous in their endeavors on this day.
For the rest of us, there's aspiring towards joining in their efforts.
It's an endless struggle to form a More Perfect Union. I don't really expect that struggle to ever end.
to do their duty is Essential Maintenance, it doesn't have victory state,
except the continuing vigilance and dynamic feedback.