What Makes Mythological/Fantasy Gods Enjoyable?
a year ago
Hey everyone. Had a couple of random thoughts lately. You’re getting one now.
Recently, I’ve read a couple of retellings of Greek Mythology. One was Stone Blind, a rather bitter retelling of the Medusa story, and the other was Circe, (kinda obviously) about the famous witch. In both, the gods and great powers of Greek Mythology were represented very differently, and it got me thinking about what I like about gods in fantasy stories to begin with.
I’m still collecting my thoughts and plan to share them when I have them completely sorted, but I was curious. When you’re reading fantasy stories, or anything else that would involve gods, demons, spirits, etc., what do you want when it comes to the pantheons of power in them? What makes a good group of deity-like figures for you? What makes them a part of the book that you’d prefer not to see? What are some examples of this done well?
I’m curious, and I’d like to see how it works for other people before putting out my own thoughts.
Recently, I’ve read a couple of retellings of Greek Mythology. One was Stone Blind, a rather bitter retelling of the Medusa story, and the other was Circe, (kinda obviously) about the famous witch. In both, the gods and great powers of Greek Mythology were represented very differently, and it got me thinking about what I like about gods in fantasy stories to begin with.
I’m still collecting my thoughts and plan to share them when I have them completely sorted, but I was curious. When you’re reading fantasy stories, or anything else that would involve gods, demons, spirits, etc., what do you want when it comes to the pantheons of power in them? What makes a good group of deity-like figures for you? What makes them a part of the book that you’d prefer not to see? What are some examples of this done well?
I’m curious, and I’d like to see how it works for other people before putting out my own thoughts.
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Some good examples for me would be the writing in Hades for the Greek Pantheon. For demons, Abyssus Abbey, by PenDarke: https://www.sofurry.com/browse/fold.....p;folder=73555
I think what particularly engages me about Abyssus Abbey is the solid and consistent rules for interacting with demons; even though there's a LOT of room in them to make things happen however the author wishes, it doesn't feel cheap and it leaves lasting scars on everyone who tries. There's also a lot of similar themes there in terms of how they don't fundamentally think the same way as mortals.
As for what makes me uninterested in them, I think it'd have to be flat portrayals. They don't have to be the most nuanced things in the world, but if Zeus is just made up of Zeus memes then I don't really care. If they're excuses for things to happen in the story, then I wish they weren't there.
As maybe a useful example for contrast, the pantheons in Omniscient Reader, I feel like, are "good enough". Some of the individual gods are more interesting than others, but it's clear at least that the pantheons at large have their own motivations, and in some ways are as limited by the duties and archetypes they're made up of, as they are empowered by them. The story isn't really about them, but they're good enough that I don't wish they weren't there.
So god(s) could exist of low power, and god(s) could get into situation even they couldn't easily resolve, as opposed to modern day god(s) that can make a boulder too heavy for themselves to lift, and lift it anyways.
In a broader sense i'd probably say that they are removed from the flow of time in a sense but still interacting with it.
Also that, to a degree at least, some gods are just not changing with their experience. Be it because they are incapable of doing so or we just can't perceive their inner workings.
For example, gods that are attributed to some certain thing: war, wisdom or even hedonism.
How do they do what they do, experience what they do and still, seemingly at least, just continue being.
Do "war"-gods experience the tragedy of battle or do they just perceive the "glory" of winning? Do they even care?
... maybe i'm already taking this too far but it's things like that that keep me interested in mythology (be it ancient or new) if it is done well. Which can be a very, very narrow path to walk and in the case of ancient mythology probably isn't the right way to look at it.