Regarding controversies surrounding the late Dragoneer
a year ago
This is just something I want to get off of my chest since it's been bothering me for awhile now.
I don't know if the controversies are even true. I also don't know if they're false. I can think of at least one of them I'm inclined to believe simply because it involves a known third party who was the victim of abuse and had their abuser defended.
I remember when certain things first "came to light". It was back when an anti-furry had hacked the website and "leaked" a bunch of stuff. Naive individual that I am, I took it at face value.
But here's the thing. There was absolutely no guarantee that even half the stuff leaked was real. Just like the Republican obsession with "Hunter's" Laptop.
This is the kind of stuff that was shared all around certain places like a "dramatic encyclopedia" and a farm for new zealand's flightless birds.
Both of these websites are notorious for faking stuff.
The other aspect about this is that the people most aggressively pushing all of this stuff now, in his wake, are alt-righters, MAGAts, and anti-furries. Yes, I know they're not the only ones, and that a lot of leftists are also complaining about it, but a lot of them are citing the aforementioned places - places that were notorious for harboring alt-righters and such.
There's also a lot of people who are saying "He can't have been a good person because of these horrible things he did."
And here's my response to that, with the *assumption* that the allegations are true.
"Two things can be true at once. A person can do horrible things. A person can also do great things for people. There is someone who will remember you for your worst, and some who will remember you for your best. And both will be right."
Dragoneer can have done horrible things. He can also have done amazing things. We're complex creatures and boiling things down to "good people" and "bad people" is often how a lot of our issues start in the first place. Your good deeds do not undo your bad deeds, and your bad deeds do not undo your good deeds. They both exist and will leave ripples to come.
Nevertheless, that doesn't mean believe every accusation. And if evidence can be falsified, you should be especially skeptical.
And the evidence against Dragoneer has been very falsifiable and came from some very suspicious sources. And often, the response to skepticism has been "lol you'd do anything to defend a zoo-loving pedo" without any actual substance.
If you think it's unreasonable to be skeptical of that... then you prize rhetoric over truth and therefore I have no reason to trust anything you have to say.
And if you're leftist, I especially wonder why you choose to trust the alt right so aggressively and insistently without even a mote of skepticism.
I don't know if the controversies are even true. I also don't know if they're false. I can think of at least one of them I'm inclined to believe simply because it involves a known third party who was the victim of abuse and had their abuser defended.
I remember when certain things first "came to light". It was back when an anti-furry had hacked the website and "leaked" a bunch of stuff. Naive individual that I am, I took it at face value.
But here's the thing. There was absolutely no guarantee that even half the stuff leaked was real. Just like the Republican obsession with "Hunter's" Laptop.
This is the kind of stuff that was shared all around certain places like a "dramatic encyclopedia" and a farm for new zealand's flightless birds.
Both of these websites are notorious for faking stuff.
The other aspect about this is that the people most aggressively pushing all of this stuff now, in his wake, are alt-righters, MAGAts, and anti-furries. Yes, I know they're not the only ones, and that a lot of leftists are also complaining about it, but a lot of them are citing the aforementioned places - places that were notorious for harboring alt-righters and such.
There's also a lot of people who are saying "He can't have been a good person because of these horrible things he did."
And here's my response to that, with the *assumption* that the allegations are true.
"Two things can be true at once. A person can do horrible things. A person can also do great things for people. There is someone who will remember you for your worst, and some who will remember you for your best. And both will be right."
Dragoneer can have done horrible things. He can also have done amazing things. We're complex creatures and boiling things down to "good people" and "bad people" is often how a lot of our issues start in the first place. Your good deeds do not undo your bad deeds, and your bad deeds do not undo your good deeds. They both exist and will leave ripples to come.
Nevertheless, that doesn't mean believe every accusation. And if evidence can be falsified, you should be especially skeptical.
And the evidence against Dragoneer has been very falsifiable and came from some very suspicious sources. And often, the response to skepticism has been "lol you'd do anything to defend a zoo-loving pedo" without any actual substance.
If you think it's unreasonable to be skeptical of that... then you prize rhetoric over truth and therefore I have no reason to trust anything you have to say.
And if you're leftist, I especially wonder why you choose to trust the alt right so aggressively and insistently without even a mote of skepticism.

TicklishBear01
~ticklishbear01
This is very true. Humans are complex, do the right thing, and do the wrong thing. Being skeptical is a good thing. Our skepticism can help us find the truth in a sea of lies. That’s all I wanted to say, really. I agree with your thoughts.