Agreed

<3

Fully agreed. It is sad it has to be said to the people in the back of the room.

Well said!

Agreed.

And it is people’s freedom to believe what they want. Even if they think gays are satan’s spawn, transgenders shouldn’t exist, and god forbid furry porn, that is their beliefs. So long as they keep those beliefs to themselves it is their right to have them. (If It looks like im arguing im not, simply making sure both sides are stated. I agree with your point of view.)

Wrong. We do not tolerate intolerance. It leads to actions that have consequences. You do not let people hate for the sake of hating, it will lead to them harming others. You stop that shit where it begins.

Teach kindness and compassion, none of this 'let bigots be bigots' because now we have a fascist as president-elect in America because of that kind of mentality.

I can get behind "we do not tolerate intolerance"

As long as it doesn't devolve into "We do not tolerate intolerant people."

because that would make one quite the hypocrite.
Compassion through understanding, understanding through education is definitely the way to go. I haven't seen any textbooks or anything but I can definitely see that in some cases the ideology and information is force fed to people. This shouldn't be the case either. Present the information as all other information is presented, and let the recipient formulate their own opinions, or the backlash from angry people would simply negate the whole point of education.

There are evil people in this world. Even if you understand why the man wanted to kill jews, you cannot show him compassion. Even if you understand why the man wants trans people to die, you cannot show him compassion. Keep that in mind. You cannot tolerate intolerance blanks the evil in the world too. There is a limit, lad. -w-...

Unfortunately, this doesn't work. Google "the paradox of tolerance." Not tolerating the intolerant is not hypocritical, any more than someone who believes violence is wrong is a hypocrite to forcefully stop someone from committing violence.

Transgenders have been around years before books were ever written. In some cultures they're believed to be on the same level as shamans and are worshipped. If it wasn't for colonists and the bible thumperd, none of this bullshit would be happening.

divide and conquer is a staple, age old tactic for a reason.

You said a lot for "Okay".

true.

But it's not okay when we believe those people should go hug a land mine?

Hm. Okay, whatever you say, Boris.

I think you mean vladimir. Might get confused and think you're referring to boris johnson

People are allowed to those thoughts if they'd like but they can not and should not allow that hatred to influence laws or public life. Someone wants to be a bigoted piece of shit they can go fuck off and live in their own hell hole. They are also not free from consequences of stating their hatred.

By the way, people tend to become less bigoted the more educated they are (actual education, not propagandized by Facebook memes and Joe Rogan) and the more exposure they have to a diverse group of people.

That's pretty much the methodology of the long-extinct Small Government Conservative. "I don't approve, but it's not my place to interfere in their lives. Good fences make good neighbors." But keeping people rational like that is unprofitable, it's much easier to manipulate folks who are afraid and angry.

It's also worth noting that a lot of transgender people don't like being called "Transgenders".

noted. I would love to name them by their chosen sex but in this context Idk which way they went, mtf or ftm.

If you're referring to transgender people as a group, "Transgender" will do.

"Transgenders" reduces them to an object.

That's different than a person's preferred pronouns. That's an individual thing.

To be fair tho I do refer to the female demographic as “women” and the male demographic as “men”.

That's a completely different thing. Those designations are not considered offensive by men or women.

How tf did you reply that quick

I just happened to notice it.

The issue is that they don't "keep it to themselves". Thought crime isn't real, I don't care if some people "think" I shouldn't exist or "disagree" with it. It's their actions that matter.

No, that's not okay. People who mistakenly believe any of those things you listed are dangerous people who are dangerously wrong, and they're not keeping their beliefs to themselves, obviously not or we wouldn't be aware of them to talk about them, they're spreading their cruel ignorant beliefs everywhere so that people like them can gang up and get rid of people like us.

I cannot say I sympathize, as I am in neither of the groups, but I will say "us vs them" is a very destructive mindset to have.
Similarly, "they are wrong" is dangerous to have, because it means you have already ruled out all possibility of understanding. of finding common ground to work towards. It will take effort from both sides to mend anything.

I will say this though, with social media and news polarizing people for engagement, it is most definitely a tall task. Its much easier to blindly hate than to put effort into understanding. Best of luck to ya'll.

There is no common ground between me wanting to exist vs them wanting me to NOT exist.

But those people DON'T keep those beliefs to themselves.

If they did, this would have all been a non-issue. It wouldn't be a huge looming threat to various different communities.

You're not "making sure both sides are stated," you're stating a completely non-existent fantasy that people who hold hate beliefs aren't going to believe that it's right to act on those beliefs. Of course they're going to want to act on them. If they thought it wasn't okay to hate people, they wouldn't hate in the first place. And if they DO think it's okay, then by extension they think acting on it is justified. You can't pretend that belief and action are somehow magically separable.

I will somewhat cede to this point. I have homophobic friends who have homosexual friends. They are under the unstated mutual agreement of "Y'know what, as long as you don't direct that at ME, we're chill." The homophobes do not understand. They do not accept. They do not interact. however they also do not hold that against. It is definitely unfortunate that the people you have interacted with are somewhat...radical, but middle ground does exist, and I feel you are as much a victim to social media and propaganda as they are. Somewhere out there there is a hyper religious far right-wing family who told their gay son "as long as you don't do it under my roof."

That... is part of discrimination and why it's a problem, though.

Having people who won't interact is harmful when those are people you have to interact with to be able to have the ability to do things people should have a right to do (have housing, get a job, get education, etc.).
"As long as you don't do it under my roof" is extremely harmful if it turns out that people with that view own most of the roofs around, including the ones you have to work and live under.

This is just the idea of pretending "separate but equal" is ever actually equal, or ever actually fair. It isn't. It can't be.

These should not be political points, these should be human fucking rights. THE DEFAULT.

These are all nice ideals but you're going to need to convince over half the country to care.

Technically a quarter... Since half didn't vote, were suppressed, were intimidated, were lied to, or scared to cast their ballot due to hostility from friends, family, and coworkers.

If they were capable of caring about anything at all, this wouldn't have happened in the first place.

But with RFK Jr. in charge of HHS, there will definitely be another pandemic. So my advice to everyone is to put back into practice your social distancing and home-secluding habits now so we'll outnumber them in 2028 after the next wave of truck morgues are filled to the brim with red hats.

It's impossible to predict when a pandemic will happen, but you can guarantee that they will. RFK will be a disaster for healthcare here no matter what, though.

Unlikely to see a pandemic. Just the return of kids with leg braces & living in iron lungs.

Heh.

Yeah, my mom had polio when she was a kid. You don't want that. Or a certified nutjob like Kennedy in charge of the Health Department.

He is even worse than the dipshit that DeSantis found to run the Florida health department.

Yep. the man is tetched.

And the fact that Drumpf would give him that assignment is appalling.

Thank you

This should be among the most basic principles we follow as a species.. But some people really can't just get with the times sadly. As if giving others rights is somehow infringing on their own

They're entertaining fantasies that, once all the "others" have been *ahem* dealt with in one way or another, they will be the only ones left to claim all their stuff.

Which they should already know is not the case. That was supposed to be the light at the end of the Covid tunnel: That the decrease in population would lead to a decrease in demand, and with it, price reductions, especially for housing.

Instead, a very rich few snapped up all those extra houses, took most of them off the market completely and jacked up the prices on the rest. And instead of lower-priced goods and better-paying jobs, we got "supply chain" price hikes and "nobody wants to work" signs in the windows.

But these are generally the lowest hanging fruit of the entire human race -- the people who flunked out of high school, got fired from even the deadest of dead-end jobs, and now the shit they were born with is literally all they've got.

No arguments here, old son.

Well said, and agreed.

Louder. For those who think they can control us in the way they think is right because a book told them so.

The Big Red Button.

When you press the big red button, there is no going back, or it is extremely difficult to unpress it.
The moment someone makes you feel like a hero when you hate or are cruel to a person, it changes you. Cruelty is necessary to human predator nature. We need to kill, protect, and be intimidating. When we are, it fills us with serotonin, validating that our choices and actions are the correct ones. That doesn't apply with modern day society, and modern intelligence should override this with common sense and basic polite decency revolving around the agreed upon social contracts.

Unfortunately, there are those that "drink the Kool-Aid" and get sucked into certain groups of like-minded individuals. It only festers from there because they develop an "us and them" mentality, resulting in a subsequent "right and wrong" according to their opinion. This seeds deeply into the innate instinct of tribalism we all have. To solve a "wrong" would mean to them they'd be a hero. This validation can start when they are told they are doing the right thing, or someone important validates and praises their actions. It can be set on as early as grade school with bullies, or with aggressive sports like Football and Wrestling. It doesn't apply to everyone though. We can be taught to not press the big red button, and it's easy to have empathy or sportsmanship. In most cases, respect and acceptance, and minding your own business.

The best way to avoid all this is to not press the big red button, and to not do that, all you need to do is have common sense. Easier yet, knowing about the big red button improves your chances of being a decent person. So never press the big red button.

Sadly our country is run by a cult of wealth that believes human rights are something you can just take away.

I wish I didn't know this as fact but a lot of people with the most power dont see a lot of us as human. it's why we need to stick to our small communities and take care of each other. Gate keep people out until they have proven themselves so as to protect those near and dear.

Very well put. I can't agree more.

I wish I could favourite this journal right here

A lot of people who are left-leaning struggle to wrap their heads around how many Americans think that universal human rights is *wrong* and *bad*. And these people are not mislead or misinformed--they're *just bad people*.

And we're surrounded by them...

It literally sounds so simple and yet people wanna be absolute buffoons

I didn't realize I was a single-issue voter until 2016 gave us a candidate who violated that issue. The issue is "Everyone should have the same rights."

Hear, hear.

The fact the first statement alone is lost on a lot of Americans is telling.

Truth.

I'll skip this discussion
gl with all of that

Very much agreed.

"I really don't see how anyone can argue with these things"
That's why you lost. When you live in an echo chamber, and any disagreement is considered heresy, you can't understand any other viewpoints. You believe yourself to be 100% morally right and think anyone who disagrees with you is evil. You refuse to listen to anyone else, and it's a cult.

These are basic human rights. Please tell me why you disagree and think some people don't deserve them. I've unblocked you so now's your chance.

I don't disagree with any of that, and neither do the majority of Republicans. The media told you that the people who voted for Trump did so because they hate you, but that was a lie. They voted for Trump because they believe:
-We should focus on building a strong economy in order for the country to survive.
-Illegal immigration is harming American society. It only benefits the ultra-rich who want cheap labour.
-Crime is rampant in Democrat-run cities, and they're ignoring it.
-The government is trillions in debt, and needs to save money.
-This overspending is causing inflation, which is making it harder for the average citizen to afford to live.
-Government censorship (under the guise of "hate speech") is bad.
-Citizens have the right to defend themselves from criminals and from tyranny.
-Kamala Harris was a puppet candidate propped up by the DNC (without being elected in the Primaries) who couldn't make it through a single interview without fumbling it.

Democrats don't care about any of this. And Democrat propaganda machine ignored all these issues, instead focusing on one thing: the lie that Trump and his supporters hate you and want you dead. At no point did he ever say he'll ban abortions or execute gay/trans people. He didn't call neo-Nazis good people, he explicitly condemned them. But since Democrats influence the vast majority of traditional and social media, the only thing people heard about him was negative. And since leftists don't stray out of these insulated propaganda bubbles, they don't know they were lied to.

I live in Texas. Our economy DEPENDS on the cheap labor of illegal immigration. You want to utterly destroy Texas agriculture and construction, close the border and deport the immigrants. Two out of every five dollars of economic activity in Texas comes from immigrants. Cutting off that vital source of labor is not how you "build a strong economy." That's how you destroy it.

"Crime is rampant...." That's a right-wing fiction, and absolutely laughable that anybody could still believe it in the face of actual statistics. But Republicans don't let facts get in the way of a good fear campaign.

"Trillions in debt..." the largest chunk of which was run up by the very stable genius who was just re-elected.

"Inflation..." was a worldwide affliction caused by the pandemic. Decisive action helped shield the USA from the worst effects of it, and it is currently in the process of correcting. Other countries had much worse inflation than the USA. But that will be NOTHING compared to the price hikes that will be seen when 200% tariffs are implemented. Expect everything to immediately get 2X-5X more expensive. But, of course, that's technically taxes, not "inflation" so I'm sure you'll be fine with that.

"Government censorship..." Another right-wing exaggeration, and the Trump administration was much more draconian about attacking free speech online. Expect that to be expanded to government censorship of mainstream journalism that dares to criticize the upcoming administration, as Trump has promised MANY times.

"Right to defend themselves... Tyranny." this is such a pathetically ignorant joke, it's not even worth dignifying it with a response. Nobody who ever says this has flexed a single brain cell to comprehend what it actually means in practical terms. What you're talking about is exactly what happened with Trump being shot at by someone who judged him to be a tyrant. Is that what you advocate as being every citizen's right?

"Puppet candidate..." sheer, unadulterated conspiracy nonsense. Vance was also not "elected in the primaries" yet he is directly in line to be president behind an obese, dementia-riddled, senior citizen. Why do you not find THAT intolerable?

Thanks, though, for illustrating how successful the decades of right-wing propaganda have been in warping the minds of an entire generation to the point that they are incapable of distinguishing facts from fantasy.

so you don't disagree that those are basic human rights... yet you throw them all under the bus just to save a dollar on eggs (which is not even gauranteed. i'm not holding my breath for inflation to get any better, especially with trump's idiotic tarrifs he's going to impose again. that shit didn't work the first time and it's not going to work now. we have imports for a reason, cutting them off isn't going to magically make domestic production fill the gaps, it's just going to make shit more expensive 🙄
i don't disagree that there are plenty of republican voters who do so for "the economy!!!" or whatever, not out of hate specifically. but truly putting that above human rights makes me question your morals. You're not a good person if you don't give a shit about anyone else and only care about your bank account.

A lot of the stuff you mentioned here is blatantly false. crime is not any more rampant in "democrat run cities" than anywhere else. that's just idiotic. Illiegal immigration is not a very big issue, despite what your media tells you in order to stoke your hatred of brown people. Who's going to pick vegetables and shit if you get rid of immigrants? i don't see you or people like you wanting to do that. Frankly none of us do. immigrants, legal or not, are a vital part of our economy. They deserve better than the jobs that we don't want, but this is capitalism, so that's how that works. If they didn't do it, no one would. Illegal immigrants are certainly not taking the jobs that people want.
If you hate immigrants being here illegally, improve the avenues for them to become legal. Immigration is a fact of life, it cannot be stopped. A reasonable government would try to work with it, rather than vilify it.
You claim censorship is bad, yet the right is working hard to censor LGBTQ media in every place where it shows up. Libraries and schools especially. And if you all had your way, it would be illegal. So you want hate speech to be acceptable, because you think everyone is entitled to their opinion or something, yet you want trans people to suffer alone and repressed because they think there's something wrong with them and don't have access to resources and literature that reassures them they're okay. Suicide rates among trans people are very high because of this. But you clearly would rather pay a dollar less for eggs than care.

Fuck you.

Because of trump abortion is already illegal in a large portion of the country. it's directly his fault. it was his fucking goal. he wouldn't have appointed judges who specifically aimed to remove that right if it wasn't. it won't be long before it becomes banned nationally, just wait. And that's ridiculous, especially in the 21st century. Thinking this is not a concern really shows how much you care about women, or freedom. People should have freedom. Your guys are trying to remove their basic human rights. You're delusional

To put it simply, you are completely brainwashed and full of shit.

Projection is literally all you people do.

You can have a difference of opinion on things like whether pineapple belongs on pizza. When you disagree that all people deserve human rights, that actually is evil. There is no defensible "other viewpoint."

We will never forget and never forgive people who make excuses for this new turning point in American history. Your grade school debatelord rhetoric will count for nothing. If you fail to recognize the moral abomination of this moment, you will be a pariah forever.

These are basic human rights, dude. Wanting them respected isn't cult like, are you stupid? Or do you just want to be bigoted and not have consequences for it?

They're making the argument that they do believe that everyone has the right to be themselves with the caveat that it can't come at the cost of someone else's rights, many republicans are making the complaint that many of the people protected by democrats are breaking this rule, it's why they can't shut up about trans people competing in sports, ie they think trans women are given more rights then cis women etc.

In summary, they believe in a misguided righteousness that nobody asked for

100% agreed!

*nods*

YOU SIR! Make me proud to be a furry

Louder for those in the back!! Absolutely agree. My existence shouldn't have ever been a political fucking issue.

I completely agree! But the problem is that so many people don't care about the rights of other people, so long as their own aren't at stake... And if they feel any of someone else's rights offends or doesn't benefit them, then it's not worth fighting for or, even worse, should be banished.

The sad thing is so many women voted for him. Internalized misogyny is so rampant here. I've seen texts showing mothers gloating to their own daughters about the results. Truly depressing

Misogyny and patriarchy.

That's disgusting... How can someone call themselves a caring parent and then do that kind of shit?
Those are the kinds of people that don't deserve to have kids... I can't even wrap my head around that amount of uncaring...

100% agreed

They argue against it because they simply hate other people. Many of them believe in a sky wizard who promotes the hatred.

It is all about hate, greed, and sometimes envy.

You'd think this is simple common sense, but more and more it seems common sense has become a novelty for some people. It's disturbing to see the gradual loss of humanity

Absolutely 👏

I agree, I just wish everyone saw it that way.

No reasonable person would disagree.
No reasonable person will soon lead the USA.

I agree. As a queer woman I'm devastated. And I can't believe that so many furries support him. Do they not realize how many creators- artists, fursuit makers, animators, etc.- are queer or AFAB? And how the majority of that party wants to ban pornography?

I and many others are going to be out of work because of this decision. It will directly affect the furry community. It's disgusting to think that some of you would rather elect a rapist, racist, and Russian asset over someone with actual experience just because she's PoC and a woman. You'd rather have cheaper eggs than guarantee basic human rights (and it's not like prices are going to go down anyways!) I'm barely hanging on and I know a lot of others feel the same.

I don't want my friends to hurt themselves but I know it's hard when the majority of our country just told us "fuck you." I'm so scared and it's beginning to feel like the only way out.

I hope you and your friends and loved ones are doing okay right now. Sending love your way. We tried, it just wasn't enough.

It's grim, but hang in there. The fewer of us who give in to despair means fewer little victories for them

Not only do they want to ban porn, but a lot of those folks want to class anything about queer people as porn.

Totally agree

100% agree.

I've been fighting since 2012 to remove my uterus. I graduated in 2009. I've been registered as infertile with no chance of child since roughly 2005ish due to medical issues. I've ALSO had thyroid disease so bad that in 2015 I died 3 times. IN the span of roughly 60 days. 3 Grand mal seizures and a stroke. I was pushing 240 heart rate resting when it should be 90. If I hadn't had the stroke I would have literally had a heart attack. The fact that I still draw literally at all after some severe mental damage is astonishing to my doctors and in a way they seem impressed. In that single year I literally lost everything about my adult life I had yet to work for and still have not recovered.

In 2019 I finally got to remove my THYROID after fighting tooth and nail with abysmal health. A long process to be sure, years in fact. On the surgery bed, the day of the fucking surgery to remove my thyroid after like 6 months of pre-requisites for JUST this surgery. The male doctor ON THE TABLE asked me if I had my husband's permission to remove my thyroid as it would impede child bearing.... On the table... preparing the sleeping drug. I still had to ask permission. ... About my own thyroid that almost successfully ended my life at 25 years old. I still haven't removed my uterus and now, the surgery I was 2 months away from to do just that, may be canceled due to politics. As it may, through legalese, be considered abortive..... No doctor wants to throw away their career for someone like me.

I literally cannot get pregnant in a meaningful way. And my life is absolutely wrecked by constant issues stemming mostly from this. This vote has very literally set me back for all this time... again. Possibly indefinitely if people choose to just roll over and give up.

I just want to be seen as a human adult and this fucking past 12 years has shown me the rest of the world REALLY doesn't want that.

Sorry to scream into the void on your post :<. You're at least sticking up for the right shit. Most of this fandom does and it sucks to know I'm alienated here too for some dumb art I draw XD. What a weird existence in every way.

Thanks for sticking up for basic decency tho. I appreciate you. For whatever that might mean.

I'm sorry you have to go through that. I can do nothing, but wish you well in spite of all that sh*t you've experienced.

Feeling seen means a whole lot more than it's given credit for :"). I appreciate you and the effort of the post in a real way, thank you.

You're welcome :)

Fucking crap, that's just awful. And inexcusable.

These assholes just don't give a flying fuck about people. Thanks, patriarchy.

They even cloak this under the guise of being "Pro life"... What a bunch of fucking hypocrites.

*hugs* I'm getting my uterus removed in early January too, I hope nobody bars your way! I've wanted to be sterilized my entire adulthood. I've had to wait so long to finally be insured to do it, and it turns out fibroids are going to supersede my original plan of just getting my tubes out.
I count myself extremely lucky that both dr and where I'm at in the country are both relatively progressive but its still extremely nerve-wracking, by the way things are going I feel like I'm getting in under the wire.
Due to PCOS I have hormonal/endocrine issues as well that will need to be addressed post hysterectomy and I'm still anxious that the next steps of my likely treatment will be impeded one way or another. I came from Texas and hearing about how terrible things have gotten for healthcare across the board there since I left last year makes me fear for the rest of the country.

I'm sick to my stomach every time someone says they think Trump will make life better- his appointments have already condemned countless Texans to needless death and suffering.

I'm wishing you the best and rooting you on. All we can do is fight harder! Hustle in spite!

That's so horrible, dear... And I'm so sorry your life has been so rough up to this point.
But you're not alone and we won't give up. Just because some evil bastards are doong everything they can to make life miserable and dangerous for people like you and others doesn't mean we won't fight to deny them the satisfaction of doing it. We'll all be here for each other.
I've never been a political person until 2016, but this shit has gone too far and I can't stand to see people that I care about and people who deserve to live a comfortable, safe, healthy life be denied it thanks to some bigoted idiots.
Just know you're not alone, Feathers
You're never alone.

I genuinely appreciate you and your kind words! We will persist despite the horrors and as I told EveAra, I plan to still hustle in spite.


if the world I knew is dead, it's time to commit necromancy.

Oh hunny! *gives big hugs* your post has me in tears, im so sorry youve gone through allll this. Its just stupid that this country treats women like it does....
Its no longer the time of (old) men, yet they think they still run things. Whys it have ro be sucha fight for a woman just to survive...we dont need permission to survive!

It's gonna be alright, but sometimes it do be like that. I figure I should stop being silent about it tho and most of the time I don't talk aobut it all publicly. Not usually, so it's nice to yell at the void a little bit. Even nicer to know a couple folks responded so kindly. Thank you for taking the time to post!

Huge agree on every bit, really comes off as common sense to me. Those who want power over others will be driven to do so by any means necessary and that's why civility on these matters is impossible, gotta keep fighting.

I guess the next step in the process is to see if the Judge that convicted Trump on 32 counts actually grows some balls, and gives Trump jail time. Each count can get 1 1/3 to 4 years each, with a max of 20 years total.

Even if the judge was lenient, and gave him less than the minimum on each count, he could still give Trump 20 years behind bars.

i really don't understand why he faced no consequences. the president is not supposed to be above the law, but clearly he is, and people are just... okay with that. if it had been literally anyone else they would be in jail
at the very least he should have been disqualified from running. "law and order!" screams the rabid right. my fucking ass...

This is what astounds me. Any of us folk if we committed these same crimes, they'd ask for our head and be damned if we ran for any sort of office.. it doesn't make sense

Easy.

because he literally is above the law.

This is America, where freedom reigns! You can have as much freedom as you can buy, including freedom from the law.

*34 counts.

Too right!

Facts.

Agreed!

There use to be a time, long ago, I thought to myself "They're worried. They read their magic man book and it says bad things happen to bad people after they die. They don't want bad things to happen to their kids or their friends so they try to make them stop..."

No. That was so naive... It's like the AIDS epidemic. They're afraid they'll catch it simply by standing next to a gay, and then they'll go to hell because they sure as fuck know they aren't good people so they just want every one else who's weird or different dead. To save their own hide. They don't give a damn about being good or Christian or neighborly.

What's worse is that they don't care what happens to the planet, or leaving any sort of enduring legacy- to them, this life doesn't matter because their magic sky daddy is going to sort it all out.
But heaven forbid they can't control the price of gas or eggs. If only they elect THEIR guy, he'll press the magic button that makes the prices go down. That's worth a few million people dying and suffering, right?

You're still right though, both then and now. They're motivated by nothing but fear AND hatred.

And interesting you bring up AIDS... I was just wondering how so many young people could not bother to vote. They don't remember. So many were lost to AIDS. And I'm an older millennial, I was not part of the community through the worst of it but it only takes one look at the AIDS blankets, to read any of the stories, and realize how dire it was. But to those born after me, it might as well be ancient history. They don't even know what the country was like, what being an adult was like before Obergefell v. Hodges.

Do we really have to go back to the dark times before people realize that anything but a cold firm grip on their rights will get them ripped away?

It really does seem like they believe in that magic button.

The worst part about not remembering history is the slogan - Make America Great Again. ... but they don't want to say when that "great" was, or who's going to lose once we get there.

Christianity in america is a trend, an identity. It ain't something they practice.
https://discover.hubpages.com/relig.....American-Jesus


American nationalists think their country is holy and free with every other stereotypical aspect of it like the eagle or the waving the flag. It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

Should be, yes. Sadly, decades of evolving marketing technology have turned the brains and hearts of an overwhelming number into sewage.

Totally agreed. This country is a shitshow. Can't believe we elected a racist circus clown twice.

100% agreed to all the points made there!

I Agree

Agreed.

And if you don't agree, because of uh, *checks notes*, gas prices?

As a member of this site you should at least care about this part of the conservative plan.

"Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned."- Project 2025, Foreword, PG.5

Now, you could make an argument that they were referring to the previous statements with those sentences, but let's be honest here, this is legalese, those are two full sentences with zero definitions or specificity. There is no wiggle room under the law, if it's classified as pornography, they are going to outlaw it, or at least try really fucking hard to. So, if what should be basic human rights doesn't sway you, maybe that will.

And if not, well we're all in this burning building together now. Don't claim to be a victim when folks turn on them whom are holding the matches.

I agree, maybe in another universe it might be real, but we are in hell

Agreed, thank you!

Thank you for saying this. I honestly congratulate you for leaving comments open for discussion, and I wish a very merry go fuck yourself to the brain-washed shitheads who commented on here with the 'it's just, like, our opinon, man' excuses for evil.

yes

A heads-up, but kiwifarms assholes have you in their crosshair.
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/furry-...../post-19847019

Expect troll comments from here on out.

Ah yeah, they did that last time too, i guess even though this journal is basically a repeat of the same thing, they are just that bored
Those guys really need a real hobby... and like, a hug from their moms or something

100% agree.

I'd like this chizzled in stone and nailed to the White House