A Question About Quality (FEEDBACK REQUESTED)
6 months ago
So my 15 year anniversary on here is coming up very very soon and I’m honestly a little sad. I feel like for the time I’ve been here I’ve had very little reach, that I’ve been growing extremely slow. Granted there were several years where I barely uploaded due to untreated depression and ADHD (both of which are finally being addressed as of this month) but even so it feels like I’m not doing what I need to do to be more, well, popular. I want more people to enjoy my art. I’ve got friends who haven’t even been on here 1/5 of the time I have who are absolutely dwarfing me in terms of numbers and I get more than a little discouraged by that. It feels like something is wrong with my art either in the art itself or the way I run my page.
A friend suggested that I’m spending too much time on each piece before uploading it. I was told that if I upload a higher volume of comparatively lower quality sketches or flats that I might get more eyes on my art, or people who already know it might enjoy it more. I just personally don’t understand this, I’ve improved a lot over the years and I want to show it. I also consider my gallery partially as sort of an advertisement for my commissions and want people to know what kind of quality they’re getting. If it fills up with a bunch of half-done sketches or flats I’m worried people will see that and be turned away. Plus there’s the question of whether or not I put them in scraps or have them float in my main gallery.
To these ends, have a couple of questions for people about my art. I want to know a few things and I would appreciate as many thoughts as you have on them.
- Would you all want to see me start doing simple little sketches and uploading those en masse, provided I have enough ideas for such volume? Why or why not?
- Is there anything about my gallery that I could do better on to reach more people who enjoy the art and kinks I do? It could be subject matter or particular kinks that I may neglect and you want to see more of, frequency of uploads, something glaring I need to improve on, stuff like that.
- What drew you to my page as a watcher or customer in the first place? If there are qualities that are working for people that I could focus more on it would really help to know.
Please leave me some comments to let me know your answers to these questions.
A friend suggested that I’m spending too much time on each piece before uploading it. I was told that if I upload a higher volume of comparatively lower quality sketches or flats that I might get more eyes on my art, or people who already know it might enjoy it more. I just personally don’t understand this, I’ve improved a lot over the years and I want to show it. I also consider my gallery partially as sort of an advertisement for my commissions and want people to know what kind of quality they’re getting. If it fills up with a bunch of half-done sketches or flats I’m worried people will see that and be turned away. Plus there’s the question of whether or not I put them in scraps or have them float in my main gallery.
To these ends, have a couple of questions for people about my art. I want to know a few things and I would appreciate as many thoughts as you have on them.
- Would you all want to see me start doing simple little sketches and uploading those en masse, provided I have enough ideas for such volume? Why or why not?
- Is there anything about my gallery that I could do better on to reach more people who enjoy the art and kinks I do? It could be subject matter or particular kinks that I may neglect and you want to see more of, frequency of uploads, something glaring I need to improve on, stuff like that.
- What drew you to my page as a watcher or customer in the first place? If there are qualities that are working for people that I could focus more on it would really help to know.
Please leave me some comments to let me know your answers to these questions.
Your pictures are visually impressive, and improving! Your leap to 3D was really natural, there didn't seem to be any practice phase. I think you're right to make high quality pictures slowly, instead of making low quality pictures quickly. Honestly, it breaks my heart to see people assume they've got a strategy problem when the furry world goes quiet on them. Furry world just always goes quiet on rare furries.
Artists are a community, sure, but don't let them tell you the rents are equal in the village. People with new interests will always have nervous fans, and people with old interests will get cozy ones. People with kinks will always alienate people with no kinks. People with rare kinks will just, stir fewer people's feelings than the people with common kinks, it's a math thing. And then there's the biases! Furries are more progressive than alot of other scenes, very openminded and queer. But furries approve of alot of stuff without actually ever faving it. I've noticed that people who aren't pan/bi never fav head swaps between characters of different genders, for instance. Galleries that contain 100% drawings of cis men tend to outperform galleries that contain 100% drawings of cis women, which seem to outperform galleries with a diverse mix. And some other people (Me, sorry!) are a flavor of asexual where we approve of, but rarely enjoy sex scenes. Some people just don't like certain videogames, or they only like birds, or they can only get off if it's barefoot with toes. Some people need there to be multiple limbs, or rubber clothing, or a certain emotional aura. Some people have weird religious hangups, or phobias, and whatever your favorite color is, somebody out there hates it. Please don't let these people want stop you from creating the stuff that only you'd create. If you don't make it, who will?
I dunno what exactly made me want to post the SFM work I’ve been doing recently. I’m glad people are liking it though!
2) As stated before, more uploads that communicate your ideas would be great. I'm loath to suggest a particular kink or interest as I'd prefer you follow your heart. I find quality/charm increases if you're motivated to draw what you do.
...........maybe more conjoinment lol.
3) You have a very cool and charming art style and I like seeing it show up in my feed regardless of kink. Seeing more of that would be lovely (but not to the point of burnout ofc)
-Whenever you do sketches, and I mean whenever, unless they're absolutely meant to be 100% private, just put them in scraps! People love seeing sketches, you'll often have the most variety in terms of what topics you draw in them. I'd say go back in your files however far you want, and just upload them en masse.
-I don't know how exactly much art you've posted on Patreon in the 4-5 or so years you've been running it, but I do know that most of it never seems to leave the paywall. Most successful Patreons I've seen don't quite operate like this. The majority use it as a way to see art early and see exclusive alts. After a month of being posted on Patreon, or whatever timeframe you think is reasonable, you should upload at least the base version of that image elsewhere. You can, in addition to that, post previews, just cropped versions of that art or even the sketch, on the same day it goes up on Patreon, to perhaps entice potential patrons to subscribe. Same as with the sketches, I'd recommend going back however far you feel comfortable, and just posting everything that would fit the criteria to be public by now.
-As for the commissions you've made; I've commissioned you four times I believe? I definitely plan on it again once I have a job. Irregardless, out of the four times we've done this, I believe you only ever uploaded one of them, when I and I'm sure many others would've loved to have seen all four. The same goes for all the other people I've known to commission you, 99% of it seems to just remain private. You really should just upload everything by default, with the option still being there, at customer request, to remain private. As before, go through your back catalog, and just start uploading stuff. You definitely have my permission to post my comms wherever.
My main point being, people like variety, and variety is a very good way to advertise yourself. Unless you have a really good reason not to, just upload everything when you're going to move on from it! And you have a very healthy supply of past art you should heavily consider uploading in the meanwhile as you work on new stuff. If you wanna discuss any of this further, I'm always open to it, either here or on Discord.
...also maybe do more Pokemon and searching for head scenarios lol
It’s just something else I think I can blame on having untreated depression and ADHD for such a long time. I think I went like 3 or 4 years without uploading at one point and I only just started to get back into it recently.
2. For gallery improvements, perhaps create folders dedicated exclusively to original characters for the sake of browsing? Like have all Kira pics in one and Vic pics in another?
3. As for what made me discover you in the first place, it all goes back to my discovery of the modular community back in 2018. At first I didn’t think we had much in common kink-wise but as time went on I began feeling more comfortable embracing my “weirder” side in the fandom! Since then you’ve been a true friend that’s helped me through a lot~
1) If you drew up sketches every once in a while, I would not be opposed to that. I must say though, your art is beautiful!! It is visually very pleasing to look at, your style and everything about it is absolutely gorgeous!! I will admit I'm gravitated towards it a bit more than your SFM work, but that is also very impressive and fun to look at!!
2) Personally, I don't think there is anything more that you need to do. This coming from me who actively searches for people with similar kinks to myself, and I don't see a need for any different ones on your profile. Frequency of uploads is something that catches up to all artists, and it is hard when backlash is received from their audiences, but it says more about them than it does about you. Artists need time to make the art they love to make, they way they want to make it!! So by all means, take all the time you need to make your art as you see fit!!
3) What drew me to you was your art, and love for modularity and similar transformations. As a lover of transformation magic, and more so modularity on this platform, it is nice to see the modular sub-fandom on this community have so many nice people. Pretty quickly, however, what drew me to you was your overall vibe; I really like the way you talk, and seem to think, you are very kind, which I greatly appreciate, especially in your warm welcome to me, and as I said before, you are true to yourself, which I admire very much.
Overall, I would honestly just love to see you continue what you enjoy doing for your fifteenth anniversary here!! I love seeing what you create and how happy it makes you to create it!!
- I discover most artists through commissions and collaborations they've done with artists I already follow, so perhaps you could commission someone more famous
- I think I found you through some other modular fur's page, and I like modular and geometric art in general