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It Really is Just, TOO Easy... -_-
16 years ago
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There's really no sport in it anymore... *sighs*
"Well the evidence I can present is, we've got a book written over 1500 years ago by 40 different authors on one subject, and it doesn't contradict itself." -- Ted Haggard
"It's all over, it's ALL Over! The Atheists have been defeated! These mother fuckers have been called on their bullshit! HA HA HA HAAA VenomfangX is the truth! VenomfangX Shut them DOWN!" -- Tony48219 from YouTube, to the song 'One Winged Angel' From Final Fantasy VII
"Scientists have been desperately searching for water on other planets, however this search is futile... This planet, this amazing planet just happens to have all the water in the universe." -- VenomFangX
"Science has never found a genuine transitional form that is one kind of animal, crossing over into another kind, either living or in the fossil record... Now what I'm about to show you, does not actually exist. These were created by a graphic artist, but I want you to keep your eye out for this, because this is what Evolutionists have been searching for, for hundreds of years... So here's some transitional forms, [Holding up the picture and says,] This is called the Crocoduck" -- Kirk Cameron, from WayoftheMaster.com Quoted from a video they posted themselves on You tube.
"Reese's Peanut Butter Cups! ... that does not just naturally happen! It doesn't naturally happen that my peanut butter got into your chocolate... Someone had to design that, correct? So Design exists in the Universe... and humans exist and 'Design' that capability is within us right? So we can't just make something out of nothing, because nothing comes from nothing and therefore design existed before there was a design. It came from God." -- Steven Colbert
"Call me now for your free Tarot card readin." -- Ms. Cleo
"Do you realize that up until Noah's day, people lived to be nearly a thousand? You don't die because you get old, you die because you're a sinner. Up until Noah's day, there's no record of rain." -- John Mackay
"The way you have framed this in your uhh, closed mindedness really is a good example of the kind of, censurship that we see within the scientific community that won't even allow discussion about the controversy. If Evolution had occured, then SURELY, wether it's going from birds to mammals or, or even beyond that, SURELY there would be at least ONE Evidence!... Show me the bones! Show me the Carcas! Show me the Evidence! of uh, the inbetween stage from one species to another." *Then she begins giggling at him.* -- Wendy Wright, Concerned Women for America
"We walk with faith, instead of our eyes." -- Church sign near my house
"It is a grotesque sin against God to not be thankful for I.E.D.'s, I'm so happy about those I.E.D.s it makes me jump up and down with glee. To mock the jar heads, I say, HOO HAA!" -- Westburro Baptist Church
"Would you consider yourself a good person? Have you ever told a lie? Have you ever stolen anything? Have you ever used Gods name in vain? Have you ever covetted anything? Yep, so you are a lying, theiving, coveting, blasphemous um, person. Do you still think you're a good person?" Deborah, age 13, Servant of God.
"The Atheists Nightmare! Now if you study a well made banana... Now if you go to the top of the banana, you'll find like with the soda can makers that placed a tab at the top, so has God placed a tab at the top. When you pull the tab, the contents don't squirt in your face..." -- Ray Comfort, Wayofthemaster
"...each chromosome contains the blueprint, the instructions for how to build the entire person."
And,
"Most people don't realize we are being X-rayed by the sun, right now. The Suns X-rays are coming right through that roof, right through your body, and blowing you full of holes inside the building, except on cloudy days because water stops X-Rays." -- Kent Hovind
"Well the evidence I can present is, we've got a book written over 1500 years ago by 40 different authors on one subject, and it doesn't contradict itself." -- Ted Haggard
"It's all over, it's ALL Over! The Atheists have been defeated! These mother fuckers have been called on their bullshit! HA HA HA HAAA VenomfangX is the truth! VenomfangX Shut them DOWN!" -- Tony48219 from YouTube, to the song 'One Winged Angel' From Final Fantasy VII
"Scientists have been desperately searching for water on other planets, however this search is futile... This planet, this amazing planet just happens to have all the water in the universe." -- VenomFangX
"Science has never found a genuine transitional form that is one kind of animal, crossing over into another kind, either living or in the fossil record... Now what I'm about to show you, does not actually exist. These were created by a graphic artist, but I want you to keep your eye out for this, because this is what Evolutionists have been searching for, for hundreds of years... So here's some transitional forms, [Holding up the picture and says,] This is called the Crocoduck" -- Kirk Cameron, from WayoftheMaster.com Quoted from a video they posted themselves on You tube.
"Reese's Peanut Butter Cups! ... that does not just naturally happen! It doesn't naturally happen that my peanut butter got into your chocolate... Someone had to design that, correct? So Design exists in the Universe... and humans exist and 'Design' that capability is within us right? So we can't just make something out of nothing, because nothing comes from nothing and therefore design existed before there was a design. It came from God." -- Steven Colbert
"Call me now for your free Tarot card readin." -- Ms. Cleo
"Do you realize that up until Noah's day, people lived to be nearly a thousand? You don't die because you get old, you die because you're a sinner. Up until Noah's day, there's no record of rain." -- John Mackay
"The way you have framed this in your uhh, closed mindedness really is a good example of the kind of, censurship that we see within the scientific community that won't even allow discussion about the controversy. If Evolution had occured, then SURELY, wether it's going from birds to mammals or, or even beyond that, SURELY there would be at least ONE Evidence!... Show me the bones! Show me the Carcas! Show me the Evidence! of uh, the inbetween stage from one species to another." *Then she begins giggling at him.* -- Wendy Wright, Concerned Women for America
"We walk with faith, instead of our eyes." -- Church sign near my house
"It is a grotesque sin against God to not be thankful for I.E.D.'s, I'm so happy about those I.E.D.s it makes me jump up and down with glee. To mock the jar heads, I say, HOO HAA!" -- Westburro Baptist Church
"Would you consider yourself a good person? Have you ever told a lie? Have you ever stolen anything? Have you ever used Gods name in vain? Have you ever covetted anything? Yep, so you are a lying, theiving, coveting, blasphemous um, person. Do you still think you're a good person?" Deborah, age 13, Servant of God.
"The Atheists Nightmare! Now if you study a well made banana... Now if you go to the top of the banana, you'll find like with the soda can makers that placed a tab at the top, so has God placed a tab at the top. When you pull the tab, the contents don't squirt in your face..." -- Ray Comfort, Wayofthemaster
"...each chromosome contains the blueprint, the instructions for how to build the entire person."
And,
"Most people don't realize we are being X-rayed by the sun, right now. The Suns X-rays are coming right through that roof, right through your body, and blowing you full of holes inside the building, except on cloudy days because water stops X-Rays." -- Kent Hovind
I want to point out I'm not an atheist. My mom is an atheist and she will preach for hours on her belief there is no god. Me? I'm a pandenominationalist don'tgiveashitist. I don't care if there is a god or not... if there is, I fully intend to bust him square in the nose if I can and if there isn't.. well there isn't. My money is on there not being one though because using Occam's Razor and the observation that the universe has uninterrupted causality that spans from galactic clouds to sub-atomic particles. As far as we can tell, the universe gets along quite well without one in residence so then the simplest answer is there isn't one.
There we do not agree. I should point out, that "I" Don't have a problem with people being religious. I wonder if that blew your mind. :p Really I don't. I have religious friends, and said friends are actually quite good friends! One I even yell at if she doesn't pray before eating a meal but I am side tracked. I think religion cannot be beautiful beyond an artistic sense. Art, movies, and so on, religion can be really cool. In fact, I've been working on a comic script involving Vampires, Demons, Werefurries, and the Church. I even reference historical religious people in it. Makes a good story, and can be a real beautiful concept... but in a non artist sense, I cannot believe religion is at all beautiful. It's an insult to human dignity.
Uplifting? Yes. It can be uplifting, but then what most people call "white lies" have the tendency to be meant as a helpful thing. Some people are pleased by lies, and comforted by lies. I'm not, but that's because I care about what's true. The Universe has been a much more comforting thought to me then any religious story has ever been able to muster. When I was little, and believed in God, and prayed and so on, I was always amazed by the Universe. Like any good person who loves the Universe, I began my quest with Earth. I mean, this is where all humanity was, and God put us.... so I learned about it... studied..... which lead to my Atheism and Anti-Theistic perspectives today.
A Great Teacher? no. I can't, under good conscience say that teaching people to not think, and to not listen is a good thing. With religion being your teacher you can only learn to be small minded, to not listen, and keep your eyes down to you. You're a sinner, there's SOMETHING wrong with you and you need to fix this.
If you think that's a good teacher, then our definitions of a 'Good Teacher' is very different. To put it simply, I think a good teacher, will teach things and teach others to think for themselves because, take morality for example. There are no solid rules of morality that can be followed 100% of the time AND have that be the moral answer.
If they would leave me alone, I would leave them alone, but they don't, so I don't. The difference between an Atheist and a Religious person in Politics, say "In God We Trust" on our money, Atheists are trying to remove that not out of petty beliefs, but it shouldn't have been added to our money. period. Sorry, but Church and State are separate. That's just for one example. I'm just so tired of hearing them say, "Well God We Trust is even on our money!" yeah, since 1961. The Constitution was signed in 1787
Yeah, more important things is it. Instead, they're stuck on trying to keep marriage religious instead of civil which in turns means they're fighting on the side to take it out of the Constitution but they don't view it that way. Then they also think people like me would rape babies and so on too. (I'm Bi)
STATUS - [== MYTH BUSTED ==]
MYTH - Ancient Norway - Thunder came from Thor's Hammer, Moljinar
STATUS - [== MYTH BUSTED ==]
MYTH - Ancient Native Americans - There's a rabbit in the mood
STATUS - [== MYTH BUSTED ==]
MYTH - Holy Roman Doctrine - The Earth is the center of the Universe
STATUS - [== MYTH BUSTED ==]
MYTH - Early 20th Century - the canals on Mars are evidence of a spacefaring cluture.
STATUS - [== MYTH BUSTED ==]
MYTH - There is an all knowing, all seeing "god"...
STATUS - [==Why Isn;t This Solved Yet?!==]
STATUS - [==Why Isn;t This Solved Yet?!==]"
Depends on how you phrase it. The example you have given, the reason it hasn't been busted is simply because it's not based on something tangible, while the rest of the examples were. I propose:
Myth - There is all knowing, all seeing "god" that is omniscient and omnipotent.
STATUS - (== Myth Busted ==]
It's just being the most recently busted concept it hasn't spread around enough yet, AND Christians have put in a lot of effort into training themselves to not listen or be observant. Further, they're bad at English. (Though that one isn't unique to them, but I'll argue it's a majority thing. Most don't understand the bible when they read it but in the end, the words mean, what the words mean.)
I have nothing to add here..... Stupid people just need to shut up and deal with reality... one day at a time.. Like the rest of us. The only accurate one was the 13 year old girl.... minus the gods name in vain.. Cause god has no name... just a title... God... whats his friggan name? Even Jesus had a name.. not just "holy Demigod" whats God's friggan name.. Or are they so egotistical that he did not need a name.. Pricks.....
I'm a lil sad right now.. a friend in the marines is getting deployed.. just found out.. I'm deeply worried for him...
If theres a friggan god.. why do millions need to die over some stupid crap he put in the ground... or because on person thinks they beleave better then others... Get off your lazy holy ass and take some responcablity for this chaotic antfarm you call a planet you bum... Oh right.. your fake. You only exhist in the minds of those brainwashed into beleaving that you float over their heads and reward them for smashing babys into rocks.. Or rapeing innocent children... Or Wiping out entire cultures.. Or causing massive suffering for something pointless as black liquid crap in the ground.
Meh. If god exhisits.. just send me to Alex Raynards naughty Level now. Cause nobody but holyest of loonys are going up to suck your holy cock.....
To those who take offence.. I'm not a happy camper right now.. its text... you guys ignore parts of your own bible.. text... Just move on and go find some cause to take up elsewhere.. Cause bugging me will accomplish nothing.
If i cause trouble Crystal. I appologise... you i respect
Again, if there's a friggan god, I wouldn't worship him still because he's obviously a monster. I cant' help but point out if he is a monster, then the jews must have it right since they go for the Old Testament. I also can't help but note that there's one simple fundamental issue with the bible that Christians never notice or accept. How do they know, THAT book is the true word of God and not Satan's trick? Yes I've been told, "Because it says its the word God" o_O See? bad English.
Like i said.. I'ma gonna burn... But i'm gonna do it with the rest of the fun people XD
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One thing that still bugs me about that episode; when the Doctor meets the Cult of Skaro, face-to-..... dome, he then busts the door to the Spehere Chamber, and the Cybermen and the Pete's World Ops. pour in together.
Namely: why are the Cybermen and the Pete's World Ops. pouring in together?
"God Made You.
Now make him regret it."
http://www.venganza.org/ if you are so inclined to do so too.
My favorite part of the group is how dressing up like a pirate helps fight Global Warming. It's really creationist logic emulated flawlessly.
Or, I dunno, chimpanzees are a good example, too, no? : D
They also found water on mars, so that's bullshit, too.
The whole "are you a good person" thing is stupid, too… no one lives sin-free if we go by the bible-definition of sins.
Or a tad shorter, just about anything they said is stupid… though I am pretty sure Colbert was just trying to make a parody.
No, a chimpanzee would not be a good example because in actuality they are not part of the tree that lead to us. A common ancestor of the chimp is where the split was from us. Hmm, let me look up a video I saw on You tube really quick...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh0F4FBLJRE&feature=PlayList&p=101582689E353E13&index=10
Hah, found it! :3 There ya go, that'll help you on that Chimp thing. ^_~
Water is actually one of the most common things in the Universe. H2O, water. Maybe not in the form that we are more used to here on Earth, but still, atomically, it's water. :3 We found it on Mars, we found it on the moon, other moons of other planets, hell we even found miles of ice on Saturns rings... not to mention (stops myself) There's a video series that touches on this, lets see if I can find it really quick... Oh and VenomFangX makes an appearance. ^_~ Hahah I forgot that he quotes the quote I threw up from VenomFangX
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS5vid4GkEY
"no one lives sin-free if we go by the bible-definition of sins." One of the basic foundational things to make a religion is making sure that everyone knows they are a sinner, dirty, bad, or has some sort of negative aspect to them and need to be fixed, healed, or work to make themselves pure and good.
Colbert makes many mentions of being religious. Now, is it 'true'? I don't know, he could be acting to appease his fan base, which are by majority, christian.
I was just citing one of many examples, actually, but yer right, it's just about anywhere in some way, shape or form.
Well, of course, I realize that's how it works, but if you think about it, no one can ever truely live sin-free and thus, we should all go straight to hell, so… why even bother? xD; Of course, I do follow moral guidelines and all that (to some extent *Shot* ) but… eh, there's a line for everything. xD;
Well, he may just as well just make money with his words without actually believin' what he says. … then again, if he can do that, he could just as well become a politician. xD;
is looking down and saying "Sheesh These guys are F in moron s
Give your evidence that he is "loving", not just heresay and fear-motivated ramblings.
EG; some victims of spoutial/parental abuse I have heard"
"My husband didn't hit me, I walked into a doorknob. I'm staying with him because he loves me."
"Daddy hits me with his angry-time belt, so I must have done something wrong."
"God exists because I'm a terrible sinner, so he'll make me all better."
No difference, same leaps and flaws in logic. Present your coutnerpoint debate, not just "he MUST be, because I'm really really sure!" that you've been doing.
And what's with your spelling being so bad? If you really have to, run it through a Spellcheck; you are on a computer.
Both old and new... He did have his good points and reasons for what is going on.. he wasnt PSYCHOPATHIC...
for me now. I realize that my view of God is tainted because I never had a good father figure in my life.. so instead of thinking of god as someone that is mean.. I accept him as someone that does love me and can do nice things for me if I ask...
I just need to do things for myself thats all. (He does want me to be self reliant..)
its all in how you look at things..
that's actually a very interesting thing to say. That implies that a dictator who created you (without your permission), who you have to worship (or else) which is why you were created, further created sick and commanded to be good, who loves you but created a means of punishment that will last for ETERNITY as the other option from worshiping him for ETERNITY once your painful and sinful existence ends, would have any real impact by having a good or bad father figure in your life. It's interesting to me that you would confess if you had a good father then you wouldn't believe. I had a good father figure in my life, but I can still see the problems from what the bible teaches about God. The only ones who have any hope in the discussion are Desists, or "The god that created everything, and then left taking his cares with him." mentality... but of course the things you are saying wouldn't apply to a Deist God.
"I just need to do things for myself thats all. "
That's another interesting thing, citing that as if it were evidence that 1: contradicts Evolution. 2: Contradicts my position, 3: As if one cannot come to that reality unless they believe in a super natural entity.
You did say one thing though that we can both completely agree on, so long as it is read independent of your statement about self reliance.
"its all in how you look at things.."
True, the natural world can exist without any form of contradiction if you base your views on the natural world. One can view, say the Earth quake in Haiti as being natural like me or super natural, like Pat Robertson. It's all in the way you look at things, though in truth one side has evidence and the other doesn't.
I must confess great satisfaction that murder trials require evidence before conviction.
Cant independence and belief in a supernatural entity coexist..
Sorry, you were trying to make a case 'for' Evolution?
"Cant independence and belief in a supernatural entity coexist.."
Yep, Deists. :) Creationism is still pretty silly in itself mind you, but to answer your question, yes.
what were we talking about again I for get
I believe in a one on one with God ... Church is just a hospiteal for the believers
I"m curious, do you accept any texts as a basis for your beliefs of this God or does he talk to you directly, or is he kind of a God that created everything and then didn't do anything after or what?
But you don't seem to be one from what you've said to me. In all honesty, you confuse me. First you say that you have a one on one relationship with God, and then say God created everything and left it to us... I mean, consistency is important in a discussion.
Broaden my mind
The fact you don't seem to be aware of how many sects there are within Christianity (some of which war amongst each other as all religions do, which is yet again, another example of why Atheism doesn't cause wars while religion does), means that this conversation is truly a lost cause. You really don't know anything about your own religion or those around you. I'm simply not going to sit here and hold someones hand and walk them through every step of the way.
If you're unwilling (yeah, unwilling) to take that first step into learning, then there's no point in teaching you anything. o_o I'm sorry if I seem rude, you'd be wrong of course. I'm not being rude in the slightest here, but still I apologize if you feel I am. This is just the way it is.
Its just a word to me thats all.
I dont know what I believe or presonally I dont care...
I believe in Jesus Christ and I have read the Bible at one point. Im just not going down as a lemming is all
SO, since you are willing to take it on absolute faith that Jesus Christ existed, you are therefore a Christian. The part you don't lemming about is which denomination of Christendom you are part of.
And I just love how they quote stuff, whilst missing the other 97 quotes in the bible xD
And why do they keep bashing the Noodled Lord of epic awesomeness? Is it because some drugged down and/or retards didn't make him their D&D character back at year 0?
But my favorite part is still when they came to "my people" (the vikings) and explained that Thor's hammer didn't cause lighting, there is no gods that do all that stuff and they shouldn't be happy, acceptant and all that, and also do this and that just to complicate life and reduce the living standards. Which they use science to back up now. And right after they prove that "Mjölner" didn't cause lighting, it's something by nature, they say [I]"Hey, did you know It's God that's making those lightings?"[I/]
I ought to think that most of the morons should be dead by now, which allot of them thankfully are. But they just keep breeding and threating their children with this junk which makes them believe in the fairy tales, yet while telling them other religions and etc are, whilst their isn't.
I really /facepalm when they manage to find ~1 homosexual that's an total ass and say "See? We said the gay's were bad", totally neglecting the other ~95 % that actually act normal, and often even better then straight people (talking bout religious here), how come you forgot to mention the shitload of pedophiles, murderers, rapists, violent people and other things that happen to be "a good straight Christian (or w/e religion)", it like a what? 1-300 ratio?
Wouldn't surprise me if they somehow in the feature implanted some kind of electronic device (male and female model) in your genital that would electrocute you if if came within 3 cm range of one of the same type.
Then after doing all that, they would prolly smile and say that they can now prove that it's god's will that two of the same gender shouldn't be together <=<
Oh, and I really hate parents that go like "Oh no, we will pray for him/her instead of pulling out that rusty spike he stepped on! God will save him/her... well, so far no-one that people only prayed for has survived for that reason, but it's still a totally safe way" and when they die from sumit stupid that could easily have been avoided like... stopping the bleeding with bandage, they have the freaking mouth to say "Well, there was nothing we could have done... it was their time"...
Do'h sorry fer the random rant again xD
Because Creationists like to think their God is watching over them because to them, reality is depressing. It's sad that they think this.
They keep attacking the Flying Spaghetti Monster because they believe it is mocking them. This is why they boycott movies like, The Golden Compass, and Avatar.
To a Christian, there has to be a 'reason' that someone is bad, or evil. It cannot be because of Morality because bad people aren't christian. When someone is christian and does something immoral, it's because of the Devil.
"in your genital that would electrocute you if if came within 3 cm range of one of the same type.
Then after doing all that, they would prolly smile and say that they can now prove that it's god's will that two of the same gender shouldn't be together "
If they could, they would. They already have places they send Homosexuals to get rehabilitated.
You'll like how I concluded the story I posted (true story by the way) on the charities website,
"One of the greatest revelations of space exploration is the image of the Earth, finite and lonely, bearing the entire human species through an ocean of space, and time." - Carl Sagan
There is nothing else that can pave a way to a cure except humanity. If we don't set down those stones, nothing else will.
It's what I do :3
It's like they think they can feed a baby using only water, and when it after several days starve to death, they just shrug and takes out the next baby.
Haven't seen the Golden compass, but why Avatar?
Cuz it "speaks" of that there might be life on other planets?
Yeah, that makes me sigh, like when they leave their children out in the "wild" and they get killed because they were to busy worshiping gods testicles to notice their kids walked away, then it's either "gods will" or "the devils work" <=<
Aye, I know.
It's like telling a girl to either "grow a penis" or "get rid of the clit and lips" (w/e religions that insist that females shouldn't be born with a vagina) or they're gonna have to remove with with a sander.
The best thing they could do would be to say they had one, but ofc they can't show it since they don't have it. Which is pretty much what they do atm, just lie about "being cured" while still being completely normal inside.
On what charities website?
I'm a bit spaced out atm hehe
Imo, christians would have better luck with putting 2 of every animal in a lab and hope they somehow find a cure for something then sit on their ass and wait for god to do it :P
Cuz it "speaks" of that there might be life on other planets?"
Because Avatar teaches you to worship nature.
http://www.angiosarcoma.org/index.php?option=com_poll&id=15:howarrive-poll
Oh wait, there wasn't any "kill this, rape that or make those rules" in that part was it? :P
Like there is with sex :P
Actually there 'is' water on Mars, amongst many other places in the solar system including Earth and its Moon let alone the Universe. H2O is one of the most common elements.
You might want to clarify the "*Then she begins giggling at him.*" bit. IIRC, wasn't this from an interview with Dawkins?
"because water stops X-Rays" Yes as we all know since taking X-rays to see through largely-water soft tissues is totally useless and never at all used for medical purposes. At all.
I know I'm not really adding much insight... but damn some of those lines are so retarded, I feel compelled to do at least *something*.
Yes, however, despite about 30 minutes, I was unable to locate the full interview on you tube, despite how I used to be able too. because of this, I was unable to actually quote him precisely in FULL. I do feel bad for involving him, but it was still worth it at the same time. : / sorry if my memory doesn't serve as well as yours in this one.
"Yes as we all know since taking X-rays to see through largely-water soft tissues is totally useless and never at all used for medical purposes. At all."
HAHAHAHHAHAAH beautifully worded!
All those lines are retarded, thus my point. There's just no sport in it anymore...
What's gonna happen to the world when you and me are gone? There will only be insane people left, lol.
Oh well, with some luck, they'll all wipe each other out and then the planet will be left alone to recover. Just hope evolution is more careful in future, lol.
Personally I hope the rabbits get a go at being the dominant lifeform, although I think we'd multiply WAY too fast, hehe.
It's important to remember that in truth, there are more people who think with reason then there are blacks or jews. Atheists are a much bigger minority then these groups. No, when you and I are gone, the world will not be full of nothing but insane people.
Hehe well, we'd have to lose that aspect of birthing. ^_~