Heh, I still prefer our H&K MP-7.
But it looks quite sexy nevertheless and might be good for SWAT teams in short range combat where carbines are overkill and sniper weapons are totally useless.

The MP-7 may *look* formidable, but it's ammunition isn't;

http://www.angelfire.com/art/enchan.....PDWdebunk.html

The 4.7 mm ammo was designed to incapacitate the target by the shock it emits to the nervous system, not by sheer mass and momentum like the .45 ACP or the 9 mm Para. Additionally, the fact that the larger calibers tend to go through the entire ballictic testing blocks prove that they are less effective in that manner: the smaller bullets expend ALL their kinetic energy inside the target (they get stuck), while the larger bullets and especially the "large" 5.56 leave the body again, which means there is lots of kinetic energy left in them, and that just a rather small part is transfered to the body.
If you wanna knock someone off his feet, the 9 mm and the ACP are your ammo of choice, no questions (take the .45 if the target wears body armor to break some bones, otherwise he may get up again). That's why they are still used for pistols, as you need to take your foe down with the very first shot (after all, you don't have that many shots in your clip and even less time time to fire them all).
The NATO 5.56 is better suited for larger ranges, for medium and short ranges, it's massive overkill.
The 5.7 and 4.7 mm were designed (and were also approved in various tests, if I get this right from the bundeswehr forum I'm reading right now) to penetrate Class 1 body armor and then expend all of their kinetic energy inside the target, causing a paralyzing shock without leaving excessive permanent damage.

*TILT!*
I mean 4.6 mm, of course. Sorry, still kinda sleepy here. Replying to a comment at 6 in the morning is a bad idea from time to time. xD

Well it wouldn't be the first time someone phails on making a new gun design with these issues.

And I am sure it wont be the last.

There seems to be a LOT of "engineers" who think they can make a weapon "better" by adding size, bulk, and complexity.

Let's recall when Colt tried to market a "wowie-zowie" new polymer-framed handgun back in the early 1990s;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_2000

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthre......php?p=4214977


Then again, back in the early 1990s, Colt also took quality-control shortcuts with other products as well;
http://www.thegunzone.com/gunwriter.html

Someone's been watching too much anime, methinks.

Nonetheless, a sexay design.

Looks just as big as a Desert Eagle though probably not as heavy. Lord knows I wouldn't use that even if I was in private security sector. If I wanted an armor piercing handgun I'd get an FN Five-seveN. Its proven and more compact.

It's as big as a Desert Eagle all right, but NOWHERE near as powerful for all the bulk that it has.

You can also shoot 9x19mm AP rounds out of any 9x19mm-chambered weapon with a Stellite-lined barrel, so buying this monstrosity just to pierce body armor is sort of pointless.



BTW: The amount of energy that a .44 Magnum (or more powerful) round transfers to the target actually causes MORE damage to an armored target, because the armor transmits more force from the bullet to the target (than if it simply passed though).

Looks kind of clunky...and the presenter really shouldn't be trying to channel Deckard, it just makes him look silly.

Very Star Wars, but I don't want one.

It looks a lot like a prop gun, doesn't it?

In practice, guns designed by "Hollyweird" usually aren't workable --- they're Thespians, not Engineers.

Yup. I didn't like how the stock, and slide are so close, too easy to grab the wrong bit in the heat of combat.

Looks more like a gun from a Resident Evil game.

When I think of Resident Evil handguns, I think of the Beretta M92FS, Browning HP, Desert Eagle, STI Eagle, Colt Python, Luger, Glock 17, and the M93R... not to mention Resident Evil 4's "Handgun", Punisher, Red 9, Blacktail (XD), Matilda, Killer 7, and Broken Butterfly...


All of them much neater and more compact than this hulking monstrosity.

erf not another PDW

It seems like the guys who came up with this weapon haven't noticed that there already IS a weapon with all of these characteristics, that was already a big success even before the whole "PDW" craze began; the IMI Uzi.

True, so very true! And for that matter so was the M3, and the MP5K or at least they were designed to the same type of specifications. the whole PDW thing is just another way to promote the smaller style SMG's anyway, its nothing new at all.

The whole PDW thing is to basically sell SMG's and common carbine-pistol conversions as pistols to avoid the Class III license requirement targeted to a narrow niche market. I can only see private security corps and military benefiting from these kinds of weapons. For the average Joe civilian its just another cool toy because lets face it, its not a concealed carry weapon and carbines generally don't make good home defense weapons (mostly from the legal stand point).

well there is hardly any semi auto (aside from the semi only ver of the UZI) PDW's so civies can't get one without the class III anyways. In my book, home defense has been and still is best served via a 12 gauge welcoming committee.