Well I dont' know about the end of days... But the end of humanity will surely be caused by itlsef. Anywaw I have done several dreams of the "end of days" that I called my "visions of apocalypse". They are quite beautiful, my favorite is the "when crows fall from the sky" one. It's not a scenario but like a passage of a movie...
ahaha i'm crazy don't mind.

No, I'm interested!

Tell me about the "when crows fall form the sky" please?

'grey goo' is a cool one, where nanomachines screw up and devour everything and multiply until the planet is a grey goo. there's a 'green goo' scenario too, basically the same except it's a bacterial entity instead of nanomachines.

there's also one related to string theory, it says that scientists doing experiments accidentally upset an important 'string', undoing physical laws and basically all atoms fly apart instantly.

FUNTIME

Yeah, I did a paper on string theory on the 8th grade.

All I can remember from it is that, if we could find a way to manipulate it, we could create worm holes and have teleportaion. I've also heard that the strings are like..stitches in the fabric of time and space, and if we break one of them, it would rip a hole in..well, time and space.

That grey/green goo doesn't seem believable to me really. Maybe it's because I haven't heard of it yet.

yeh for real, i don't think any kind of major end of the world thing will play out. if it does, i don't think it'll be by human hands. comet or big bad ass meteor or something, maybe.
even though sometimes we do stupid things, i'm kinda confident in humanity on the whole.

I don't know how confident I am on Humanity, but I am confident on how quick a cause, and effect chain reaction could be. If we do do something that messes up the fabric of time, or maybe someone accidentally sets off a nuclear bomb, do you think we will be able to react in time to save ourselves, or will we panic and destroy ourselves while we are trying to survive?

i don't know, but i do have confidence in us!
but it really does depend. like, if string theory is real, and we fuck it all up, the reaction would be so instant we wouldn't really have time to react.
with the nukes, it would certainly be bad, VERY bad. but for the sake of argument, if every nuclear and atomic bomb in the world went off right now, there'd still be a lot of unaffected areas. the claim that there's enough nukes in the world to kill humanity several times over is just a bit of propaganda from the seventies.
i'm really much more afraid of solar EMPs. if one hits earth directly, it's goodbye computers, batteries, cars, factories, infrastructure, anything utilizing electricity or circuits. not to mention internet porn!! NOOOOOOOOOO

no pr0n = no fun :'C


I think that eventually, even if one nuke goes off, unless we live under ground for years, we could all still dies. This is because of the radiation will circle around the world in a huge cloud, and it'll contaminate the water and earth.

What are solar EMP's? Do they upset the frequency in electricity? How does that work?

do you think we will be able to react in time to save ourselves, or will we panic and destroy ourselves while we are trying to survive?

You're about to find out. We need to reduce carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions drastically, immediately, and we aren't doing that. Failure to act rationally right now may result in panic later.

For reasons we did not anticipate 30 years ago, global warming speeds up. http://www.time.com/time/magazine/a.....176980,00.html The polar ice caps reflect a lot of solar energy back into space. But now they are melting into liquid water, which absorbs that energy instead of reflecting it, so the planet gets even hotter even faster. Similar feedback loops occur in other unexpected areas. http://www.guardian.co.uk/climatech.....546824,00.html

It is hard to predict how bad the climate will get. There is probably a relatively narrow range of temperatures that can support generations of sustained human life. There is no particular reason to expect that the climate will not veer out into those ranges. Some climatologists think it may be too late already. http://www.commondreams.org/headlin.....05/0123-01.htm

Assuming we can still fix this, we would need to begin acting immediately. Most governments aren't doing much (the Kyoto Protocol isn't enough) and large polluters like the USA, China, and India aren't doing anything at all. Most people aren't paying attention, so they aren't putting any pressure on their governments, and the petroleum companies win the lobbying game by default right now. This can change. But we aren't changing it.

If the climate changes aren't so drastic as to make human life impossible, the loss of resources (due to rising sea levels and desertification) will crowd people who don't much like each other. That kind of situation has always in the past been a recipe for war. These wars won't be any comfort to the winners, though, who will still be left with a dying ecosystem and the same stress they started with. It is not inconceivable that this cycle might destroy the infrastructure of civilization and usher in a new dark age. This will mean no interbutts and very little furry porn! (The little things hurt the most.)

So, if you ask, I'd say that unless we start taking the next decade very seriously, the world will end not with a bang, nor with a whimper, but with a "lalalalala I can't heeeear you!"

Yeah, most of the world's gov. is so corrupt. I don't think, unless it directly effects them, the people with the power in office won't take action. Too much money.

Thank you for these links, I've been reading some and I have yet to read the rest, but will. I can't believe that I didn't mention global worming in my journal.

But, humans are doing some things to prevent GW. Like, there are a lot more electric cars, harmful gases that were in hair sprays and air conditioners are banned, people are recycling more, especially in Europe. But I doubt that it would help much, eh?

It is really great that some people in industrialized nations are thinking about the issue, and I don't at all mean to disparage that.

China and India are going to be humongous polluters in upcoming decades and it's very difficult to say to them "we had our years of blind ultraconsumerist binging but you can't have yours." India can undo any progress Europe makes. China can drown us in carbon.

We literally need to reverse carbon levels. If America and Europe are willing to take on very stringent carbon legislation, India and China may be willing to play along. But if they feel that they need to do "whatever it takes" to compete economically with the G8 countries, the results will be bad for everyone. A lot depends upon America's willingness to reduce consumerist excess; many other nations keep pace with America's economic decisions.

But when I say we need to reverse carbon levels, it's hard to imagine what that means. There are market regimes called "emissions trading" or just "carbon trading" which attempt to put a price on pollution by allowing companies a certain amount of pollution and if they need to make more, they have to buy "carbon shares" on a market like a stock exchange. It almost sounds like a reasonable idea, until you realize that the baseline "cap" on emissions is set at the current industry output. All it does is say "no more emissions next year than we made last year", which is not even close to acceptable. We need to take carbon out of the air, not keep producing year after year at the current level.

For all the good that voluntary civilian efforts like recycling do (and they do measurable good), no country is currently coming close to zero or negative greenhouse gas emissions. We need strong public pressure on governments to impose extremely strict regulations on industry, and a willingness to bite some of the economic effects this may cause.

It is good that people are paying more attention than they were ten years ago. It is good that people consciously think about hybrid cars and compact fluorescent bulbs and all that jazz. Making day to day decisions that consider the ecosystem is necessary to get people serious about pressuring their governments. I don't want to knock all that; it helps. But it isn't, by itself, enough.

I think the apocalypse will be brought on by mankind itself. Each day I grow a little more confident that the end of the world will be prefaced by, "Hey, what does this button do?"

XD Dude, that would be a sad way to go.

I agree with you though. I think that, during 2012, since it's widely believed that the world is going to end then, people are going to go crazy. Like, there might be massive suicides and rioting and stuff. If you want to get all astrological, I've heard that the last time the planets were "aligned" like they will be in 2012, the Great Depression happened.

I did not know that re: the Great Depression part. But rest assured, in 2012 I'll be out rioting and looting like crazy whether I'm feelin' it or not. Except I don't want to wait that long. (But seriously, I'm gonna have to google-fu moar on this 2012 theory.)

I don't believe in it.


I find every theory I've heard to be nonsense.


My own personal religious beliefs kinda disprove it as well. I believe in reincarnation and that the point of our existence is to experience everything. Since that is an infinite number of things life can never end.


Hmm, and even if Earth came to an end that would just mean we would be reincarnated as aliens or something.

I've never thought of that.

Is it possible to be reincarnated into space matter? Maybe, once the world ends, we would be reincarnated into space dust, or into the engery that fuels stars.

If that's the case.... well.... doesn't sound that bad then does it?

Hurrrr. First human race dies within the next centuries, then Earth gets to heal its wounds for the next million years and re-start evolution. After a few million, the sun grows into a red giant, devouring Earth and the current dominant lifeforms will go "hoshi---"
Other option would be that humans destroy all plant- and animal life - you've seen how fish are dying in the oceans already - but there are micro-organisms that still exist, but can't really evolve into anything even after humans die out - so Earth becomes the next Mars, a lifeless piece of rock with polluted oceans, acid rains and especially no ozone layer to cover Earth from the harmful ultraviolet radiation.

But Dougal Dixon's book After Man: A Zoology of the Future is awesome read, with weird new species of non-existent animals evolved from their ancestors - with breath-takingly realistic illustrations. Warmly recommended.
Wish I got to read other books by him too ... like Man After Man: An Anthropology of the Future 83 pure science fiction.

With this whole global warming thing, It's hypothesized that the world will flood over, I think. Like, Venice is sinking, and so is New Orleans and Florida. So, we might just be a planet of water.

What I don't get is the idea to go and live on Mars, when our planet is going to turn into Mars jr. (according to what you said)

Good point as well. I don't know much about all those factors. But yeah, pretty much a planet covered in water - but fish have become extinct due to water contamination and so forth X3

But Mars, when they probed the planet's surface apparently found something they assumed was frozen water with some bacteria in it. So the planet might have had some sort of life.
I don't believe the human race will ever make colonies on other planets after Earth is ruined. Nopey nope.

when humanity is wiped from the face of the earth...

when this planet is reduced to an empty wasteland...

alien archeologists will land, searching for any trace of the intelligence that once populated earth...

And all they will find is the fur-affinity server...

LMAO!

Omg, if that were true, then the aliens will think that humans were sum fukd' up peoples.

i really don't know how humanity will end... but i'm almost certain it will look like the paintings of master beksinski:

http://www.beksinski.pl/

Wow, that guy has some A-MAZING art. That is the most positive response I've gotten so far XD.

yah!! He's very good! It gives me some nice mixed feelings looking at his art.. it's very disturbing... yet somehow beautiful! ...it's funny because people say he was a nice, and shy person, i usually wonder what inspired his work.
hahahah isn't it a bit contrasting to get a positive response to a journal about apocalipse...? XD

Yeah, I am actually kinda regretting posting this up here XD *is getting depressed*


Maybe he draws that kinda stuff because thats the only way he can express that part of him?

HOLY COW
Wow. 8O Amazing works.
(and the music is great too X3)

Earth's core will cool causing the magnetosphere to disappear and everything on Earth will diiieeee.

Why do you say this?

'Cause it'll probably happen some time. Not soon though. I don't think it'll bring the end of humanity as we now it.

If we don't get sucked into a black hole before then :P

I think I'd rather get sucked into a black hole.

yeah, I'm interested as too what a black hole looks like.

I bet there are unicorns.

Tons of them.

I'd say 2012, honestly.

Explanation:
Christian religion, the Mayan Indians, Scientists and the Chinese Calender.. all unrelated right?
First off, the Mayan Indians were very precise time and calender wise, more precise than we even are now. They said that the world would end in 2012. 2012 is the year of the Dragon in the Chinese calender. The Christian relgion says dragons will appear in the end times. The scientists say at the rate of Global Warming we have 5 years to turn it around or have it be irreversable and ultimately destructive. It's 2007, 5 years from now it's 2012.
Huzzah...

Then again, a day is 23 hours and 57 minutes long, not 24 hours, so it isn't even 2007 techincally if you subtract 3 minutes from every year ever. We just simplfied it and rounded it up and all this could be thrown off due to lazniess, or just mean even more. Oh well, just gotta wait 5 years.
The exact date the Mayans gave for the world ending was Decembre 23rd, my birthday is of course, Decembre 22nd, woop de fuckin' do. :D

Oh God, that could either be a very awesome birthday, or very sucky.

Yeah, but the Mayans were constantly changing and updating the date of the end of the world. If they were still around, I'm sure they would have change the date again and again.

As for the Cristian and Chinese thing..I'm not sure what to think about that :C

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Nothing special is going to happen in 2012.

There is no archaeological evidence that the Mayans believed the world would end then; it was just a calendar cycle for them. Even if they did think the world would end then, who cares? Every prescientific culture's predictions about the end of the world, whether astrological, numerological, or exegetical, have been completely wrong so far. Superstitions don't provide answers or guidance for our lives; they just make money for frauds and liars.

I'm tempted to start keeping a list of people I know who are interested in 2012, so that I can call them on January 1, 2013, and laugh at them. I think I seriously might do this; then at least I can get some enjoyment out of this nonsense that they get so hyped up about.

There won't even be riots. A lot more people thought that the world would end in 2000, but there weren't any riots then. Since 2012 is less widely acknowledged than 2000, the chance for riots is even less. I should clarify that every year, there are riots in some part of the world, about something, often political. If there are any G8 or WTO or World Bank meetings in 2012, there will be riots in that city; you can always count on that. But there won't be any special riots just for the fact that it's 2012. Why? Because even though it's cute to ponder, very few people actually care enough about this or take the Mayan calendar seriously enough to go start a ruckus. There will be a lot of new age types making shit tons of money from other gullible people though.

One thing that will happen in 2012 is some hippies will have big parties, and there will be a lot of psychedelic drugs at these parties. I might go to some, and I might have a good time if I can avoid the people who want to chat me up about crystals and auras. I have never learned how to effectively turn these people away or change the subject to something interesting. I've got a new strategy though that I will try next time: "I was Adolf Hitler in a past life."

Theres a lot of hidden messages in the christian bible and blahblah. The mayan calendar goes in an out of periods. I dont believe the world is ending according to the Mayans, just a new period is begining (one beyond their scope?). And or they died out before they remembered to get back to their big future telling project.

2012. Aliens. Comet. War. Jeebus. More war. Nuclear radiation. Earthquakes. Ecological upheaval. Volcanoes and floods and polar shifts. Stupid... All this 2012 junk. And polar shifts dont just HAPPEN over an hour. Geeze. Humans are always at war, and the planet is always alive, so 2012 doesnt mean much. Life will survive an asteroid impact.

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As for the world, ultimately. Humans will evolve out and eat themselves and Ill be dead a few million years before that happens so who cares. I dont. I just hope I dont suffer immensly as I live for the next few dozen years. Ahfuckit. Why bother with life?! Humans will do what they do. Life will continue in some prolapsed manner, as it always does. Mass extinctions come and go. And on that note, Im quite disappointed I wont be around to see wtf happens to life after humans are long gone. Evolution is fascinating.

Sad to think itll all disappear in a big boom of hot death in a few billion years, if we, or some pissed off aliens, dont blow terran up from the core first.

Curious thing is the magnetic field of the planet. It may be dying. Which is ultimately out of our control. And would rape the surface pretty hard.

The future is confusing. I prefer not to think of it. Or astronomy. So many ideas, contrived and planned for and many more waiting to be discovered. If the human race doesnt die out over one, itll survive into another breakdown. And another.
And Im just rambling. Too many ideas and options. And do you mean the end of humanity, or the planet as a whole? An asteroid wont destroy it in one blow, surely. Complete death takes centuries, or longer. Everything is out of the span of the human lifetime. So... ... im back to not caring.
Youve made me hyper.

Interesting points. It's fun to see what peoples attitudes and predictions are for the end of the world.

I guess what I mean is the end of humanity because, who cares about what the world will be like later when we have come extinct? Or if the world ends while humanity is still in it's prime, then that will also be the end of humanity.

I like this thread. You might be getting tired of it though?

I've seen a number of end scenarios here that I find implausible: the sun wearing, the planet's magnetosphere diminishing, falling into a black hole.

All of these scenarios are far off, on the order of a billion years or more. I do not believe that our descendants will be humans anymore, nor will the "planet Earth" exist. If we survive ecological disaster in the near future, then we will be able to direct our own evolution fairly soon. It will not be "humans" who face these far-future problems, although those beings will look upon us as their cultural forebears. For that reason, I still feel comfortable using the term "we" to refer to them, although this is a loose term since they may not be humanoid, organic, or even individuals.

By the time the sun nears its expiration date, we will probably have dismantled Mercury, Venus, Mars, the asteroids, the rocky moons of the gas giants, Earth's moon, and Earth as well, and used all the raw materials to build something like a Dyson sphere. In that we can build an ecosystem, free from the unpredictable natural disasters we now contend with. As our star dies, it will be a minor engineering problem to tow our new world to a different star, and another after that, assuming we don't find a better fuel source than stars in the meantime.

Long before the black hole at the center of this galaxy is really a problem, we will be living all across the galaxy, and our technological abilities will be impossible for modern humans to imagine. It may be possible to dismantle a black hole, split it up and separate it to mitigate its effects. There may be other options I can't imagine. But I expect this will amount to a fairly mundane engineering problem.


If we avert global warming and bring the planet back into a stable climate soon, then there are only three things I think are capable of destroying us.

In the relatively near future, a nearby star, besides our sun, going supernova, could bathe our planet in too much radiation for eukaryotic life (or, perhaps, any life) to survive. There are too many stars close enough to kill us; we cannot monitor them all and we will not be able to for quite some time. It would be impossible for modern civilization to shield ourselves even if we saw it coming. After a while, this will no longer be a threat, either because we direct our evolution toward near-invincible bodies, or spread out away from this one vulnerable stellar neighborhood.

There will be a "heat death of the universe", when usable energy is exhausted and there is no fuel left to sustain life. There are theories that we may escape this by kick-starting a new universe and entering it, leaving this one behind, or by exploiting quantum effects in this universe to defy entropy. Neither of these are necessarily plausible; they are entirely science fiction at this point and it will be a very long time before we know whether either is possible, or desirable. It's likely that this "heat death" will ultimately destroy us no matter what we do, but "trillions of years" is a tiny, tiny fraction of that timeline. I am optimistic about this scenario because even if it's inevitable, we will have long since had the option to evolve into beings that can gaze upon certain death without fear or anxiety. We may all die, but without sadness or regret. We may even happily celebrate our lives until the final instant when we cease to exist.

The third and scariest scenario is a social and political threat. Soon, it will be possible for authoritarian people to develop a technologically advanced fascism, that may be capable of literally controlling everyone's lives. It is uncertain, at this time, whether technologies of freedom, like cryptography, can continually overcome technologies of control, like surveillance. People who want to control our lives may be able to do so, and we may be powerless to stop them. In this scenario, humans keep eating and fucking, and in a thermodynamic sense, "life" will exist, but the most charitable propagandist would not be able to call it "living." We could only hope for the annihilation of humanity, that is, if we could hope at all. This can be averted by political resistance and social action, and though there are plenty of people today who have a hard-on for fascism, I don't have any idea how likely or unlikely this might be.

I know I haven't commented on a few of your posts, but thats because, after I am done reading them, I am speechless.

Are you a professional somehow in figuring out the possible scenarios of the end of the world, or do you research this stuff on your free time?

I just have an insatiable curiosity. :] If this thread makes me look like a bit of a weirdo, it's only because it's about the end of the world. You started it. ;]

Speak to me of art, biology, mythology, ontology, epistemology, law, rights, ethics, purpose, or your very human fears and hopes, and I'll show a bit more breadth.

Also! Draw me pretty pictures, and I'll squeal.

you see the world is going to end one day after my 19th b-day on 09/09/2009 upside down the last number on each set of numbers is 666 and on that day experiment #99 (the reanimated corps) will escape from a miltary facility. it will attack someone only having the basic of skills, to walk and feed, said person will seak help and eventually turn into a mindless corps, whos only concern is to feed, thus starting the zombie apocalyps.

Like that movie...um...28 days later or something?

yes! and feel free to make fun of me i'm a dumbass teenager.