Of course a true truce would be realized. You however also used Hiroshima as an example. "Is is ok to napalm a village where there are civilians to kill the enemy/terrorists." And I continually said and was backed up by saying that it is NOT okay. However, if it is to END a war, as opposed to subjugation through centuries, where it will be another Pakistan/Isreal, where they have fought for so long they don't even remember why (religious beliefs, and the 'recent' country boundaries from WWII) then whoever calls it will live with the soul crushing burden of having slaughtered innocents and will probably be brought down to whatever hell s/he believes in for the crimes, and will be brought down through a war tribunal as well.

However, I constantly said, "it's not a yes or no question." you continued to ask over and over and over and over, and would not let go. Even Virt argued that it's not cut and dry. I even STATED that if it would end a war, as I stated to kill a few hundred or even a thousand or two (I know that sounds sick but that's what I said) as opposed to the hundreds of thousands of people who would die through terrorist actions, rebelling against subjugation, plus possibility of ANOTHER war through rebellion afterwards, (Red Faction? Vietnam? Revolutionary War?) Which would presume over the years except through time instead of a single area, it would be more of a world-wide attack, the depression of an entire country through the war, world economic imbalance, so the world would have to suffer over decades of war instead of one quick disciplinary action? I even stated that it's a terrible horrible choice, yet you consistently demanded that it be a yes or no question.

As I said previous I would greatly enjoy peace through choices, I even said that nuking a bit of the desert in Afghanistan you said that I would hit a city instead. I even said "pop the pimple on the face of the planet by nuking it, turn the desert sands to glass." since I requested that we drop one in some random desert somewhere, just to say. And even a 'threat' like that would be an atrocity. yet you said that it was genocide, when I said in fact that It's not genocide, as genocide is everyone in the world, as opposed to the middle of nowhere in the desert. War is never fun and never a good idea. However I'm pretty sure there's only one person who continued to push this conversation when I LEFT THE CHANNEL. Yet you continued to push the conversation.

Side note, you're calling me a sick fuck? You enjoy asking people if you could kill them in the sickest ways possible, especially early on that night you ALREADY threatened my E-fam by killing them when in fact we didn't DO anything! You even asked me ... personal if not even sick things. So I think you should look in the mirror and listen instead of making things up.

I have no idea what just happened but don't worry I still think you deserve to be happy Mephi ^^ *hugs*

Lie some more Mephis. You said it WAS ok to wipe them out at the start of the conversation but you kept backtracking and saying that you never said that. And you never said it was not a yes or no question. Virtual fox interupted and said that. You never mentioned you would enjoy peace through choices. About the desert thing, again first you said nuke a country THEN you said nuke a desert and claimed you did not say the country. I said it was genocide to wipe out a country, which you DID say you would do damnit. Of course you are going to call all this lies, as you usually d when I do fucking catch you lying or you will say you were joking. And you should fucking know I am rarely serious when talking online. All this started cause I said "Hey, did you know the USA refused to sign the treaty to use napalm in civilized areas" You went on about how that was actually a good thing. You also said how you hate babykillers when killing civilian settlements would make you one. So Meph, if say your country at some point did something resulting in a lot of civilians dying like these terrorists did, you would be ok with them fighting back by wiping out your home town because someone may be harboring the enemy? Cause it is the same damn thing. You said if they are known to be harboring terrorists, it is ok to wipe them all out to make sure you get tot hem. And dude, killing civilians just makes them martyrs and makes MORE wars. Think before you talk. The moment you agree with killing civilians for absolutely any reason, even if it means you can get the enemy, you fail as a human being.

Do you think that I don't know that? Any type of fighting of any sort will never end until the people fighting realize at how futile the fight is. pride, thickheadedness, general belief, until the troops, the population, or even the leaders come to the point or realization that there's no point to it, then it stops. Otherwise it'll be something akin to Red Dawn, or anything you said about martyrs.

Anyway, I didn't say it was OK to wipe them out. I never said that. I know what I said, you continued to poke because you went form napalm to nukes. And of course I said I wanted peace through choice. It was was one of the LAST things I said. And I didn't "go on about how it was actually a good thing." I continually said that it's not cut and dry, and continued to reference Japan in WWII as you had as well. I'm not lying, you're trying to cover up what I said. Everyone in the channel heard you and me. Also, "And you never said it was not a yes or no question. " Uh. yeah I did. I said that it's not easy to say, and I refused to state a yes or no, but you CONSTANTLY berated me for it until I just said whatever came to mind. So whatever YOU are getting out of this is your own choice and fault.

Side note, "And you should fucking know I am rarely serious when talking online." So the threat and hope that you'll kill me or my family or something like that? I really doubt it, since during ... private. Conversations you were MORE than serious about doing things including to yourself. However, this is a more private matter. And when you finally man up like the person you claim to be, we'll talk face to face, instead of making making a public ass out of yourself.

P.S. I sort of grew up since the last time we talked (a week or two ago) so public bitchfits aren't goign to fix or solve anything.

Yeah making a public ass of yourself. You know, no one really reads my journals and you are not watching me, which meant you came looking. You didn't have to post a reply at all. Could have let it drop but you felt you needed to post and to tell your friends so they could comment. So before you say you grew up, think about it. If you had, you would have just ignored this rather than continuing this whole thing. But anyways, yes you did not say it was yes or no; Virt did. You are taking things other people said and then saying you did. And yes you fucking did say it was ok at the start of our conversation. And continued to reference Japan? No, I said it once in reference to the effect of a nuke. And if you really were grown up, you would not talk about private conversations. That is a childish thing to do, so again, you are lying. Mephis, in threatening or even hinting at private conversations, you show you are an untrustworthy person and therefore unfit to be leader of a group. If they can not trust the person in charge, then you should step down. And Mephis, you are wrong in your statements and the points you are making, and really trying to defend even though they are lies, and these are symptoms of being a pathological liar. I know you wont accept it but I am not the only one in GA that knows this. And part of being a pathological liar is that you honestly believe you are telling the truth even when you are not. Anyways, you just keep showing me your are not a good person and not a good group leader. Remember, you could have let this whole thing drop but no. You decided that being grown up meant being a child and calling in your friends to check this out and give it more public attention rather than letting it fade into obscurity.

I think I'd have to if you noted a number of people who notified me of it. And I do mean a NUMBER of people.

Nope.avi

Your only mad cos no one actualy liked to listen to your patroniseing ways...Just have the guts to come on the vent to deal with it. as usual you like to make a scene outta anything... PERIOD. I know a couple of people will agree with me with this post

No idea who you are and don't really care too much. And patronising? Oh no, I don't like hypocrites so I must be patronisin him when he does it. Topic was dead dude, let it go now.

Well you should cos im the one always telling you i dont care about your suicidal crap... just get it in your head you don't have friends simple as

I'm not suicidal, I was joking and I only told that to one person. Seeing also as you made an account just for today, you actually made a troll account just to harass me. Nice job. Yeah and i don't have any friends, as if vent was the only place I was at. Good job.

BTW its whybrow and yes you are suicidal. whoopee do you have family issues other people do aswell but your like " oh look at me, i tell shitty by-laws from the ancient years" big deal. so why harass other people if your so bigger than others. if you have friends then talk to them and not give crap to community members!

Uh huh. And I suppose no one sent you here to harass me either, like what Mephis did to Jasu and happy. Keep trying to troll and failing at it man. Oh noes, I looked up old by laws, big deal. Other people found them funny so that is why I did it. And harass him? I posted here and then left it alone until people started commenting here. The topic was dead a month ago but nooo, you had to try to be a troll and revive it. Good job, grow up, and go back to mucking around in vent. And I am acting like Hero? No, Hero gave people special treatment in his vent if he liked them so they would be exempt from the rules. Sounds like someone else to me.

your basically a mini Hero for GH. haha yes you are