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I'm going to try to keep this as drama free as possible
18 years ago
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Guaranteed to put you to sleep faster than Ben Stein reading the periodical table of elements!
First, to anyone waiting for the contest results, a reminder they'll be posted on the 10th
Now, to the heart of the matter.
Let me first say that I appreciate the interest everyone has placed in my art. Thank you for all your positive attention, and thank you for your support.
I believe that everyone has dark sides and good sides, and I believe there's good in every person. However, it's not my responsibility to bring out the best in people, and I just don't want the hassle of seeing things that break my heart when I look at accounts of people who watch me, and wind up feeling sick for hours. Make fun of me if you want, tell me to leave FA, whatever. I just can't handle it. I'm here to create and to share what I create, not to be disturbed to the depths of my soul when I follow someones account to thank them for watching me, and see things that I disagree with
To try and debate with people would be a waste of time that I don't have. You can call me close minded, you can say that I'm over-reacting, you can say it's not really a crime, it's not wrong if it's online, you can say anything you want about me behind my back. I don't care. I truly and honestly do not care what peoples opinions of me is. The point is, this is how I feel. You're entitled to how you feel, I'm entitled to how I feel. So be respectful and mature and don't make a public spectacle.
That being said, as follows. If you have any interest in ANY, and I mean ANY of the fetishes below, and you watch my account, I politely ask that you unwatch me, and do not solicit my page anymore. I want to keep this drama free, and I like FA as a site for the features it has and for my friends here, so privately, quietly, you do not have to say if you do or don't in this journal, just please unwatch me and if you truly want to view my art, please do so silently.
Unwatch/leave if you like, explore, consider not a big deal the following:
Cub porn/Pedophilia/Diaper fetishes. - This is the biggest one. Again, I don't want to hear any explanations of why it's not wrong, I just don't want you here if you participate in anything to do with it, or if you approve of its presence.
Vore
Unbirthing
Anything to do with urine/scat/vomit whatever nonsense.
Bestiality.
People who rape classic cartoons like animaniacs, tiny toons, sonic etc
Gore/Blood/Violence
Incest
Rape
Transformation
Abuse
Inflation
I'm sure I've forgotten some things. If you can think of something, tell me and I'll add it to the list if it disturbs me.
If something disturbs YOU, and you feel bad about your interest, and you want someone to honestly talk to about the issues you're facing to overcome them, I do have an ear and I will speak with you privately on the matter. I believe in the utmost of discretion, and I'm not here to air your dirty laundry. So yeah, that's all for now.
Now, to the heart of the matter.
Let me first say that I appreciate the interest everyone has placed in my art. Thank you for all your positive attention, and thank you for your support.
I believe that everyone has dark sides and good sides, and I believe there's good in every person. However, it's not my responsibility to bring out the best in people, and I just don't want the hassle of seeing things that break my heart when I look at accounts of people who watch me, and wind up feeling sick for hours. Make fun of me if you want, tell me to leave FA, whatever. I just can't handle it. I'm here to create and to share what I create, not to be disturbed to the depths of my soul when I follow someones account to thank them for watching me, and see things that I disagree with
To try and debate with people would be a waste of time that I don't have. You can call me close minded, you can say that I'm over-reacting, you can say it's not really a crime, it's not wrong if it's online, you can say anything you want about me behind my back. I don't care. I truly and honestly do not care what peoples opinions of me is. The point is, this is how I feel. You're entitled to how you feel, I'm entitled to how I feel. So be respectful and mature and don't make a public spectacle.
That being said, as follows. If you have any interest in ANY, and I mean ANY of the fetishes below, and you watch my account, I politely ask that you unwatch me, and do not solicit my page anymore. I want to keep this drama free, and I like FA as a site for the features it has and for my friends here, so privately, quietly, you do not have to say if you do or don't in this journal, just please unwatch me and if you truly want to view my art, please do so silently.
Unwatch/leave if you like, explore, consider not a big deal the following:
Cub porn/Pedophilia/Diaper fetishes. - This is the biggest one. Again, I don't want to hear any explanations of why it's not wrong, I just don't want you here if you participate in anything to do with it, or if you approve of its presence.
Vore
Unbirthing
Anything to do with urine/scat/vomit whatever nonsense.
Bestiality.
People who rape classic cartoons like animaniacs, tiny toons, sonic etc
Gore/Blood/Violence
Incest
Rape
Transformation
Abuse
Inflation
I'm sure I've forgotten some things. If you can think of something, tell me and I'll add it to the list if it disturbs me.
If something disturbs YOU, and you feel bad about your interest, and you want someone to honestly talk to about the issues you're facing to overcome them, I do have an ear and I will speak with you privately on the matter. I believe in the utmost of discretion, and I'm not here to air your dirty laundry. So yeah, that's all for now.
Also: DON'T FORGET INFLATION
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/DannyRose
8-YEAR OLDS IN WHEELCHAIRS FTW!
Secoundly, and this is no insult to you, but I feel it's apportiate here :THE INTERNETS, SERIOUS BUISNESS! 8D
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byebye~
I know I could continue to watch you but I won't do so. I'll remove you as you asked.
I hope that in time you'll come to find that many people who support the various things you mentioned above come here for the sole purpose of not having to have it in their real lives because of shame or fear of public harassment.
Best of wishes Ma'am.
~Nyn
You personally have proven yourself to be a very witty, well educated, thoughtful person. I respect you as an individual, and I know that a single interest doesn't define who a person is, but at this point in my life I have to be black and white about some matters for the sake of my future *hugs*
I remember when you first watched my account and the discussion we had when I was asking about the appeal of your interests since I was trying to understand the reason behind the person, so you can be sure this wasn't just a random attempt to stir up trouble, but rather a decision after many months of thought and debate.
*returns the hug*
I might fall under a few of these categories.. but I more or less do so for the sake of storyline. So, do I fall under this category?
I am not going to do this, but I still wonder. Just how far will you go to not see things you consider evil in this world? What steps will you take to censor your world so you only see what you consider good and pure? How much will you unbalance your own existence so that you cannot not see what you do not wish to see?
Too much light without darkness leads to one becoming blind. I just am curious to if that is your goal, to blind yourself to these realities. If so, you should just go ahead and mate yourself blind and def. Even if trapped in a world of darnkess, at least you wont have to hear or see the things the make you feel uncomfortable.
There's a difference between wrapping yourself in a bubble, and minimizing the things you can. Danger exists everywhere in the world, I think the internet has proven that even if you live physically in a totally safe environment, there's still always that outlet that exists that's going to bring something into your life that you might not like. It's not my goal to live in a bubble, and it's never been my goal. It's like when you raise a kid. If you don't give them enough knowledge of the world, bad things could happen because they don't know how to prevent them. But if you make things too strict, on the flip side, that could lead to rebellion and them actively jumping into the very thing you were trying to teach them to avoid.
I'm pragmatic, I don't censor out the things that I care about. I have friends in real life with issues that I don't approve of, but I love them fiercely and I don't condemn who they are as a person just because of their interests. But neither does that mean that because they're my friend, I'm going to broach my own morals and actively participate in the same things they do just because they're close to me. It's a delicate balance, one that requires alot of respect, and alot of objectivity, on my end, and on theirs, to maintain such a friendship in spite of those differences.
The point of this, though, is that the things online on this site, it's not like it's one of my close and personal friends we're discussing. It's random watchers for whom I do not know, and I don't have the time to invest myself in finding their good. Like I said before, everyone has good in them. But my life is about to get alot busier, school is starting again in a few weeks, and I don't have the time to selectively weed out the things I don't like while still keeping other aspects active. Thus, this post.
Point in fact, it's just not that big of a deal for people to like what they like, dislike what they dislike, and not want to look at the latter. It doesn't mean they're going to forget it exists.
What I saw reading this response was "I'm insecure about what I like, and I can't deal with people telling me they don't like the same things in a mature manner, so I'm going to act superior as a defense mechanism." Making principled choices without being either a social pushover, or intolerant, is a fine line to walk, and I admire Sharra for doing so skillfully.
You, on the other hand, err on the side of intolerance.
If you see things as what they might become - then you realize someone who looks at pedophile art online might become, or may already secretly be, a child molester.
The connection that those that look at child pornography are predisposed to sexually molest children would be no different than saying one that views normal adult pornography is or will become a rapist.
The majority of adults who are sufficiently motivated and willing, can go out and get consensual sex. It has been shown in studies though, that a large majority of rapists are people with strong sex drives who have some sort of condition that keeps them from easily getting a consentual sex partner, ranging from just being extremely unattractive, to social interaction issues. But the point is, people don't start to go down the wrong mental road that leads them to becoming a rapist till they have a drive that they can't fulfill.
However, there is no reasonable fulfillment for a person with a sex drive directed at children, no such thing as informed consentual sex; so every person who actually has such a drive immediately fits the first, most significant factor for becoming a sex offender.
and how does this affects someone who likes watersports? I doubt he'd piss you in the face just because he draws it
someone who enjoys drawing cartoon porn is not necesarly a pedophile, lots of us artists grew up with Rescue Rangers, Robin Hood and Tiny Toons, we grew with a love for Fifi, for Robin, for Gadget, and some express it
I like Bondage and that does not makes me a total pervert
Transformation, Inflation, Vore, Unbirthing
right, none of those I like, but ohgods, god forbid I ... wait no, I can't become either
I'd discuss that pedophilia is not the same as child molesting but I wont bother with this since Sharra said she does not wants this discussed, nor do I care to lose my time with this
right, if you care to keep this up, go to PM, doesnt matters, this is way off theme
my point here as I already discussed with Sharra is that I feel this very sad that I am having to take down from my watch list an artist that I enjoyed watching just because of my personal tastes, oh well
I really hope this doesn't become the new SuperMEME.
So long.
I am watched by like a few people but im gonna throw something like this up there any way..... just not into most of the things on the list.....
Only one I dont mind is transformation from human to anthro and vice versa. as long as its dont tastefully!
Sorry someone made you feel this way hun.....
oh 2 extra things.....
1: YES YOU ARE A BIG NAME ARTIST!!!!! so shuuuush
2: did you ever get the letter i sent?!
And no, I haven't gotten any letters from you =(
You don't think it got lost, do you?
LOVE ANOTHER LETTER NOW SCUM BAG!!!!
hun your not the first letter i have sent to go missing at all...... your about the 12th this month alone!
I will get onto writing you a new one asap! lolz
plus im sorry this journal has turned into some sort of bitch session for perverts to exercise their sick thoughts like ther weirdo with his light dark comments
hell, if you check his favorites list you'll notice it's far far more tasteful than the average watcher, I'll admit his is even cleaner than mine
I respect Sharra's right to express her thoughts, she has a point and it's valid
likewise, I'd like you to respect my boyfriend's thoughts, he might have been a bit too direct, that's how he is with his opinions, but I don't think it's fair you label him a pervert sharing his sick thoughts, because we share the same tastes, tastes that are completely harmless to society
That deficating on someone is RIGHT?
that Watching somone beat another being during sex is RIGHT?!
all 3 of which are illegal in most of the USA and ALL of england as far as im aware.
It was incited by his comment of closed mindedness....
it is not closed minded to dissaccociate yourself from these things.... it is intelligent and Very realistic. I do not wish to see them, and any being with a single ounce of moral fiber would find the thought of raping a child immoral and offensive in the extreme.... because if they dont I qould SEVERELY worry about their humanity.... and before i get flamed.... I KNOW THIS IS A FURRY art site.... but you are human..... i take my fursona VERY seriously online.... but im human IRL..... nothing can change that..... and as such I have human standards on decency and morality..... and most of the things on sharra's list I share a dislike of.... some even an aboration/disgust..... and opinions require no metaphores.... they are plainly spoken without worry of reprise.... not cloacked in stupidity and a social want to be heard. So i should really question a relasionship with a person who can condone the things referenced here!
I am not looking for a fight..... but next time if your going to note me and say
[QUOTE] I wish you'd think what you say before you fling shit at other people :/ [QUOTE]
then dont come and snipe on a post as well..... say it here or in a note..... not both.... and if he is soooooo direct he should have noted me himself....
I requested no pm's but some people dont listen!
I wont post on the thread for the sake of preventing drama like Sharra asked, but way to go, bring up my private message just for the sake of bashing me
again, I wish you'd get your facts straight, we have our principles, we're both productive members of society, we do not condone of child molesting in -any- way, we do not condone of rape, we hate gratuitous violence and we hate scat, way to overexagerate our views :/
If you actually took the time to read and think rather then jumping into an immediate posturing match with someone who really could not care less what you think as in life everyone makes up their decision about a person in thier first 30 seconds of meeting them.
Well the internet makes it closer to 5 seconds *FACT*
And all I saw was arrogance and an excuse to whine at someone for their beliefs and their PERSONAL wishes.
If you cannot respect my simple asking of NOT sending me private messages to procarastinate and add subject to your own morality and "social" standing then I will have no respect for you.
I posted an opinion..... you didnt have to read it or even reply to it..... but you made a consciensious decision to do so on "behalf" of your boyfriend?!
So he is capable of pseudo-psycobabbling but not coherant constructive comments?!
This I would see as a major problem, and the fact you dont makes me wonder on your personal state in life. I am happy with mine and the people who know me here know why I am, and the reasons for this. But I alsos know the reasons why
and I am saying this for 1 more time.
DO NOT PM ME!
I know you will recive notice of this on your account, so consider it a final warning before i get outside intervention. Such a shame there is no block button next to the watch button.
Cheers! :]
Vore I find just funny, I get nothing out of it sides shits and giggles, but generally I only play it on occasion and still not really into it. Here I'm pretty much neutral.
I'm also fairly neutral in transformation, makes a good story telling element, but here as well all it's useful for is such.
I don't mind violence because I know it happens, and can often be fairly useful for story telling, some of my stories will have violence, though I don't think I'm too gratuitous in describing it.
All the rest that you've listed I either don't like, or don't even want to see.
I'm glad I'm not the only one out there that doesn't want to see those things
That horse dude is nuts
What's wrong with adoption for gay couples? WHY must one of them have a baby?
heh, don't blame ya huny and alot of that list makes me go 'ek' as well!
Also, I respect your wish to have this be non-dramatic, I'm just confused as all git-out and wanting some clarification.
<3
And yup! Your gallery is clean and sparkly!
Now, I've faved a vore pic or two, but not FOR the vore - mostly for the artistic style and talent (like T. Mick's latest Rain pic... I don't even LIKE the vore, but was exceedingly impressed with just how gorgeous the pic was, otherwise)
And I do like a little violence, but not in a sexual context. SO not in a sexual context. Really, the fastest way for someone to turn me off (and possibly turn me ON them, if they persist) is to shove guro under my nose. I WILL NOT tolerate that, or "cub"/child porn - even the occasional LOL SERPRIEZ DOGSEX! that gets thrown in my face doesn't bother me as much as those two things.
Most of the stuff I just tune out, but I can understand not wanting to see it at all. Rest assured that those things will never rear their ugly heads in my gallery. Ever. :)
Like you said, violence happens, but as long as it's not in a sexual content, or violence for the sake of violence (such as if someone drew their take on the movie Se7en's murders..) then it CAN be an integral part to plot lines, and it's understandable. My comic has a great deal of violence in it, but it's mainly implied, never zoomed in on.
And I'm glad to hear you say your gallery won't ever have those things = D
Truth be told, except for a few responses like yours, I was beginning to think I was the only one out there who had a problem!!
I've had a few of those who are into those things ask me to do art to their "tastes" I totally understand where your coming from.
And you're more than welcome to borrow this if you want. For the longest time, when it was just someone here and there watching me, I grumped but put up with it, and now over time it's just disgusted me on such a level I don't want to deal with it anymore.
And yeah, having people ask you to do art for their tastes, or asking permission for them to use your characters, is the worst.
As your request I won't add anything to my comment that could incite drama, so I will stop here and instead of unwatching you I will remove anything that could possibly make you sick in my favorites. Your friendship means more to me than a few lousy pictures that you don't agree with.
One fetish I noticed wasn't on your list that I could care less for is spanking.
I'm not going to describe in detail about what I think is arousing on a fictional level, but to stay quiet would be equal to lying and to claim that I had no secret off-mainstream kinks would be hypocritical.
Its a shame, because you seem like a nice person and a talented artist... And I believe so far we've been enjoying our mutual watch. But because I like you and because I'm an honest person I will respect your wish.
I have issues, *puts away the comics* so sue me. ^^
Thank you for saying it's an admirable thing though, to stand up for what I believe in
1. Do you have issues with herms?
2. For some artists (example: Aubrin, Yifferfox) Inflation is used to/for comedic punch. While I do not favorite them, I do get the occasional chuckle.
3. I did not notice bondage on the list, I entertain an interest in the gentle art of restraint.
4. Hyper art? I know a majority of hyper art is below par, but on occasion there is a good or extremely amusing piece (example: Karno, Aubrin, Gideon.)
When I favorite a piece of art I look for more than just a specific fetish, I look at composition, quality and the feeling the piece gives off. Thus I do not have several thousand pictures in my favorites. Standards perhaps?
I admit I lean towards horses as the subject matter, but I am not a speciesist :P
Your take on the subject, My lady?
2. Comedic punches are quite understandable. My main issue is those who use it for sexual gratification, something completely different
3. Bondage is fine with me, as long as it doesn't fall under the abuse category (there's a difference between scene play and flat out abuse - abuse is non-consentual) BUT, bondage is NOT fine if it's bondage like, say, kkatman style bondage. (If you don't know who that is, you'd be wise not to look it up)
But that's the only person who's ever gone to such extremes, so regular bondage is fine.
Quality does have alot to do with it. However, I have seen artists that have the best quality in the world do disturbing pieces (such as a skunk peeing into someones mouth) so subject matter always takes priority with me before quality, but I understand, and like I said, you don't have to unwatch me, your presence is gladly accepted
It was like a car wreck on the freeway, fascinating and disturbing at the same time. He must absolutely hate women to put them through such horrible abuse in his art... *shudder*
On a lighter note, thank you for your approval.
*bows*
however I am currently in the process of completing quite a few pictures for a commissioner which is basically "the fetish alphabet" as far as I can remember none of the ones you listed are part of it, but I would hate for you to see me drawing all these fetishes, and think I will continue to post lots and lots of art of them. I'm actully getting more into "tasteful nudity" and most "porn" will be old commissions I'm finishing,
one thing I find sad is I worry about posting pregnancy and breastfeeding pictures, simply due to people useing them in completly the wrong way than I intended.
I'm very happy to see someone speaking up about their personal prefrences as to who they are associated with.
I'll take the alphabet series with a grain of salt when I see it on my watch list - I know that as an artist we get offered tasty sums of money for things like that, (not that I draw it! haha, don't anyone read this and think you can commish me for such XD) and as you said, it doesn't include any from the list, so that's all right. I'm sure doing such a commission though is going to make your popularity soar with most of the people who watch FA!
And yes. Breastfeeding, pregnancy abominations, when people taint something nature intended to be beautiful, really pisses me off. Especially since I'm a mom.
But that's I think one of the beautiful things about FA. It's for everyone. And after watching some of the throw-downs on deviantART (where I originally came from, art website wise) that's a biiiiiiig thing. I can feel free to express myself through my art, without going "I really, really hope I'm not toeing the line here!" and constantly worried about having my stuff pulled down because of it. Sometimes for the silliest reasons, too.
That doesn't mean we have to look at it, though.
I agree with most of the stuff you have up there, and won't get into the stuff I disagree with. Like you said, everyone has the right to decide what they do and do not like, and it would be very hypocritical of me to flame you for not liking something up there that I find to my tastes. Not to mention immoral.
That being said, there is one or two items on that list that I enjoy looking at in mild form, or even moderate form. I don't ever plan on putting them in my own gallery, but will occasionally favorite something of a questionable nature, especially if it has excellent composition / lighting / shading / coloring / etc. So, I guess the whole point of this is, is it okay if I still watch you, Sharra? *puppy dog eyes*
I consider that stuff fanart...adult fanart but still.
Hmm...does inflation include fat furs...I mean I don't really have any HUGE furs but I've got some thick chicks on here.
*scratches head sighing* God I've been away from here a lot lately. Suga was leaveing, now she's not, and this...been writting more then drawing lately and its got me backed up on here.
Let me know if I should drop you on my watch. You've been a good friend to me Sharra and I love ya! But I don't want to bug you or annoy you.
Actually thats one of the reasons I stopped drawing recently. I'm getting kinda worried that my art is more bothersome to the people who watch me then it is good. Don't get me wrong I'm not really drawing the porno stuff just to get looks...I geniunely enjoy drawing it! But I got alot of folks now who watched me because they liked my style. Now I feel like I"m just insulting them by posting more slutty stuff then nessicary.
Oh shit, I'm sorry you asked for no drama *nervous laugh* I'm a little out of it....been studying...sorry hon.
Let me know if I should drop the watch. Really I don't want to offend a great friend like you.
Forgot to mention I watch you because your art is also awesome. Cheers!