What game are you referring to?

A number of them:

WoW in the past, with twinks of experienced, well connected players altogether.
Halo occasionally, with clans of experienced, well connected players. (although it's far from as bad now)

Tengaged is what spawned this. It's all about who you know there, because the games are entirely social. It'd be more fun if enrollment in games was random, but because it isn't, people often recruit friends because they're scared of losing. 90% of the time, it seems the 'best players' there simply just know a lot of people. Folks like me who can't play often and don't know anybody are screwed 95% of the time, unless you somehow get a really lucky break. =/

I see. I know how you feel. Team Fortress 2 is the same way. Everyone there is amazingly good, and so it's hard to GET good, cause you're confused in the havoc that ensues. Not fun.

Thats when you need to somehow break into a guild D:

You mean like when you have to play with strangers and it matches you up with people seemingly way above your skill level and you get owned? I know that, totally.

Yeah, exactly. And even if skill levels are similar, there is far less of a chance for them to mess up since they're so organized. xP

Yeah, exactly. And even if skill levels are similar, there is far less of a chance for them to mess up since they're so organized. xP

Halo Reach is pissing me off right now cuz it has a "match me with similarly skilled players" option, but it's totally broken. I still get my head beat in. I'm no pansy either, I usually play on Legendary with the Iron Skull (No Respawning).

I was actually considering to go play some Reach really soon here. xD Did you want to hook up and play some? I was a 46 in a couple of playlists on Halo 3.

Sounds good actually. I haven't played in a couple days. I'm "Scrimno Longbow"

Yeah, know how that feels. Happened a lot in Age of Conan. When it wasn't pre-made though it was tons of fun.

Yeah, and that's the thing. I normally don't mind losing, as long as I have fun. When you're matched against folks that you have no hope against, it's like, what's the point? =P

Ugh, I know the feeling, haven't played any of the games your referring to, but I get enough of this in Guild Wars, League of Legends, and Left 4 Dead 2. Sometimes you see the matchup and its like, well crap, this is going to be a huge waste of time.

When I started playing PvP games recently I had split feelings: Starcraft 2 repeatedly matched me with people far far above my skill level. I got fed up quickly. Team Fortress, while I was ALWAYS outmatched (I suck at shooters), was lighthearted and more about random actions and witty banter, and both teams made me feel welcome. The aggressiveness of PvP or anti-noob sentiment of some online gaming today drives everyone but hardcore players away. Everyone starts out a noob.... so why can't we be tolerant and better coaches?

This is why I stay well away from PvP as a whole. Everyone gets ahead of me, and then they come after me. :P

Hey, I've been missing out on gaming for awhile. Do you have a steam or live account?

Ah, now I can comment since I read Red's response (had no idea what you were talking about at first ^^; )

I totally agre that a lot of games have this issue, mainly FPS and MMORPG's. Luckily I don't really get too involved with games like WoW and such because it takes over peoples lives! Lol, in all seriousness, the thing I do when I get this issue is just server browse. By doing that I've found a lot of servers that don't have hardcore gamers and usually have a lot of lackluster, fun guys that I've grown to love playing with in matches. I don't know how Halo: Reach works as far as servers go (although I'll find out soon enough when I buy Evan's 360 in a month), but keep playing in different clans and whatever until you find the right fit :3

*hugs tight* ^^