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Removal of cub porn
15 years ago
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Dear watchers, your comments are very precious for me, so I don't want to remove submissions. In 20 days, all submissions will be replaced with safe placeholders, if this is allowed.
This or next weekend, all content will be moved to either SoFurry or InkBunny. I'm worried though, because neither of them are safe. They both use AlertPay to process payments, so it's a matter of time before they're banned by AlertPay too. One bad person is enough for this to happen. And considering the way the Internet works, it will happen.
Another option is to use Furnation.ru. As its admin said, English localization is on the way. Compared to FA rules, theirs are less permissive about content (pictures must be furry related, no random stuff in scraps) and more restrictive about quality (no scribbles drawn with your left leg in five minutes).
What option do you prefer? SoFurry, InkBunny, other?
It was bound to happen.
People can't live without witch hunting. It's our nature (I can't say "their", because I'm a human too). Today's witch is child porn. It distracts from other more serious problems. People don't care about millions dying, they want a few persons who share online CP murdered. If we can't find even those who share, let's kill those who draw. If people see hunting, they feel their government cares about them, they feel safe. Without another witch hanged every month, people become fearful.
It doesn't protect children, yes. But witch hunting isn't supposed to work in the first place. It serves another purpose.
Those who would sacrifice Essential Liberty for Temporary Security deserve neither Liberty nor Security. © Benjamin Franklin
It is okay to kill babies as long as they are not naked. ©
This or next weekend, all content will be moved to either SoFurry or InkBunny. I'm worried though, because neither of them are safe. They both use AlertPay to process payments, so it's a matter of time before they're banned by AlertPay too. One bad person is enough for this to happen. And considering the way the Internet works, it will happen.
Another option is to use Furnation.ru. As its admin said, English localization is on the way. Compared to FA rules, theirs are less permissive about content (pictures must be furry related, no random stuff in scraps) and more restrictive about quality (no scribbles drawn with your left leg in five minutes).
What option do you prefer? SoFurry, InkBunny, other?
It was bound to happen.
People can't live without witch hunting. It's our nature (I can't say "their", because I'm a human too). Today's witch is child porn. It distracts from other more serious problems. People don't care about millions dying, they want a few persons who share online CP murdered. If we can't find even those who share, let's kill those who draw. If people see hunting, they feel their government cares about them, they feel safe. Without another witch hanged every month, people become fearful.
It doesn't protect children, yes. But witch hunting isn't supposed to work in the first place. It serves another purpose.
Those who would sacrifice Essential Liberty for Temporary Security deserve neither Liberty nor Security. © Benjamin Franklin
It is okay to kill babies as long as they are not naked. ©
And you exaggerate. I don't see many people who don't like furries, let alone hate them.
http://www.cubcentral.org too
CubCentral is long dead and can't be resurrected.
SoFurry/Yiffstar is very good too. It's older and there is more art there than on InkBunny, but it doesn't seem as big on tolerance as InkBunny.
I don't know all the details, but I do know that inkbunny allows artists to sell pictures via the site. Some of this money goes to the inkbunny website, so they may not need AlertPay as much as FA or SoFurry.
Here's a list of good sites.
inkbunny.net - fiercely tolerant and liberal, promotes a community atmosphere and bans harassment (just joined yesterday :D)
wildcritters.ws - not as sophisticated as FA or IB but the art is mostly cub or chibi related.
cubcentral.org - again, not very sophisticated, but the site is especially for cub art, which helps. ;)
sofurry.com - a rather open site with a lot of pics (cub included)
catcollection.org - has an artist section (as well as a lot of photos of felines) that allows cub
wwoec.com - I know this isn't your favorite but it may be useful for you.
If things ever got *really* bad, there is always rapidshare and similar sights where you could post ZIP files of your pics. Or the drawings could be shared by e-mail. But I doubt it will come to that. ^^
I hope I helped and I look forward to seeing what site you choose so I can follow you there too. Good luck.
I've been a member of SoFurry for a long time and I'm yet to see a single case of intolerance from admins. On the contrary, I've seen multiple cases of art theft ignored, but that's another case...
I'm only interested in galleries that allow all contents of my gallery to be uploaded. That means cub, watersports, scat, anthro, stories etc. So CatCollection and CubCentral are obviously out.
People on WildCritters are absolutely intolerant and arrogant. It's just another image board, like e621, anyway. With the difference that on e621 there are much more tolerant, intelligent people.
CubCentral is dead.
WWOEC is just a very simple hosting with artists directory. I don't see any advantages compared to creating own site. There's only HTML there, it's waaaay outdated.
CatCollection doesn't look like a place to upload scat pictures to.
Just one more thing. This is what I found on WikiFur's page on FurAffinity:
"FA does not permit content containing minors involved in sexual situations. This applies to humans (Loli, Shota) or otherwise human-like characters (i.e. Cub) who are, without question, under the general legal age (18)."
I'm not 100% sure but the mention of "human-like characters" makes it sound more like a ban on anthro cub than feral cub. Not only that, but it also mentions characters who are "without question, under the general legal age."
I dunno, maybe I should ask Dragoneer about that when shit calms down a little.
As for the pics that are in your gallery just now, are you going to post them in your new site?
AlertPay dropped support for InkBunny too. :( But they chose another solution, so I'd say it's safe to post cub porn there for some time.
From what I've heard, admins of FA haven't yet decided what exactly to ban. According to 'Neer, pokemons, Sonic and similar characters aren't banned, because they don't have perceptible age and don't look like humans. No clear statements on feral characters have been made so far. 'Neer said to wait for clear instructions for a few days.
Anyway, I'll keep watching you here and maybe on Sofurry too. Please link to your new site when the time comes so I can watch you there also. :) Who knows, maybe FA will find a solution someday in the distant future. It would be good if some folks started a sight called CubAffinity or something like that. No matter how much the trolls kick and scream with frustration there will always be cub art. It's just a question of where.
I've heard rumors about death threats, but haven't actually seen them or Dragoneer mentioning them. Do you have any info? I'm curious. :)
http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/History_.....raphic_cub_art
I think somehow that Neer would be fair with ferals, he seems to be a very fair reasonable person. I think he wants to defend free artistic expression as much as possible. If there is ever another option I bet he would reverse the policy in a flash. I guess InkBunny will have to do for now. :)