Got it, hated it. and sold it, and I assure you I am no 360 fanboy in disguise. I love my ps3, I won 47 games for it, but GT5 Was so hyped and failed big time massive loading times, so many damn patches, and over an hour just to install 8 gig on a hdd? Worse ps3 dissapointment ever. Oh feel free to add me if you wish. Challenger-UK

So what is it that kills it for you? I don't mind the waits on it (I multitask like a motherfucker.) but for me a BIGGIE is creative ability. It's like my Camaro... building it and designing it is almost more fun than driving it.

Well I can tell you that I'm nearly done with the Aspec side, finishing the first of the endurance races last night. That will take just less than 2 hours with a highpower car. And I am going to do the Mazda Miata 300km on the Tsukba circuit tomorrow when I hit level 26 tonight.

Despite what Challenger says it's pretty damn good, with all the normal complaints you would expect from a game that does take up a ton of usable space already. Once you can get past all that and find out how good the game can be it's a time killer and lots of fun. Honestly GT5 isn't for someone impatient and worried about loading times, simply because of the endurance races. You have the 24 hours of Lemans and Nurburgring as the final endo races. And the Indy 500.

The Bspec is rather annoying because the drivers all follow the driving line and get tired forcing you to keep upping their pace and irritating them into making mistakes. Even with a car that is 10 seconds faster a lap than the fastest opponent they slow down so badly.

The cars themselves. 200 premium cars that are on levels of customization. With body kits and wheels, and 17 of those can be race modified with your own paint of choice and numbers, including the 69 Camaro and 70 Challenger.

The other cars all you can do is put wings on them and repaint them with the colors that you receive from buying or winning cars.

GT6 whenever it comes out is going to be a huge improvement over 5, but considering 5 is the first one on the PS3 format there are obviously going to be annoyances.

Yeah, the creativity is what I love about games. Gimme a WWE game and spend more time getting creative making a character than playing the game. I was having a blast and a half on Midnight Club DUB and Midnight Club LA. I was able to make a very close to perfect replica of my Camaro.

Okay, so where the hell do I get a truck at?

That's a tough one, they're only in the used section and I had to finish several races before one even came up. I think it took me six days worth of racing a couple hours a night before one showed up. The games bad about that too. I had to wait almost two weeks before another car showed up and it took 90% of 2 million credits I had gained for the German touring car races on the Extreme series.

I dont think i will make it far enough to make that series. never even had more than 110k in credits. i dont have the patience to go back and re race several events to get money.

Yeah unfortunately to even get to the big money you have to be on the Expert series

And strangely enough the biggest money is in the American racecar championship. 98,000 a race. The first race is 5 laps on the Indy oval. 98,000 every four minutes compared to even the Endurance 200 mile Laguna Seca which only gets you 190,000 for 2 1/2 hours and non sports Lexus concept car.

Even the dreamcar challenge first race is 10 laps around Indy and only gets you 73,000.

I'm still waiting to get to level 28 to run the Indy 500 but that again would probably be a couple hours and only a couple hundred thousand.

The more I play it the more I realize it shouldn't be this hard or this repetitive to get what you need to finish it. Then of course there's the B-spec which frustrated me into a headache last night when my best driver let the Corvette Gran sport beat my fully race modded ZO6 on the Daytona road course. The very same car that I put 8 seconds on all the other American race cars at Indy myself with only 5 laps to do it.


There are definitely some major issues to be worked out for the sixth edition whenever they decide work on it.