Eh, they usually rip off other people's songs all the time, so failure's to be expected from them.

Now let's bring Outkast back from the dead. :(

Someone showed me an old BEP song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8kS7atmTis

I don't know why they don't make songs with that kind of laid-back mood any more. There's still sampling in it but it's a lot more coherent than the sampling in a song like "The Time".

I told you, they rip off music. It's easier to do that to gain popularity, because people won't remember the guys they ripped off. :(

Find me an argument that explains why it's okay for, say, Daft Punk to "rip off" music (in which case people have LITERALLY never heard of the originals) but not okay for the Black Eyed Peas to do it.

I don't think I've ever heard one instance where they were using someone else's mix in the way BEP does, and most of the time people were collaborating with them or had at least asked for permission to use their motives. (Remember the fact that I keep listening to these things. Even solo, I've never heard Thomas do anything that could be considered ripping off.) Fact of the matter is, if they are ripping off themes, at least they would ask for permission to use them.

The thing that The Black-Eyed Peas likes to do, however, is completely take such motives, change hardly anything about them, and put their own lyrics over them, see Fergalicious and I got it from my Momma (the remix), ripped off from J.J. Fad's Supersonic and, oh look, Daft Punk's Around the World, respectively (the former is quite blatant in this). Hell, they even ripped off most of the video's style from them too.

In short, if Daft Punk does do this, they don't do it without pissing someone's Lawyers off.

Here's a demonstration of the samples Daft Punk uses on Discovery: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8Ndijo2ysM
Here's Robot Rock (a blatant "we didn't change anything"): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVVfZAZdIUs

Now, I am personally comfortable saying Daft Punk is usually more entertaining to listen to. However, this means you can't attack them for using samples. Unfortunately, I don't really have the vocabulary to explore the issue more deeply than that. What's the difference between being repetitive and being repetitive in a bad way? What's the difference between repetitive vocals and vocals as a rhythmic instrument?

Maybe I should do a track-by-track comparison of Human After All with The E.N.D. Discovery is an obvious classic, but I'm not sure Daft Punk is on great footing otherwise.

But by their sampling they're making new things of their own (okay so Robot Rock was kinda blatant, but even the original song went somewhere completely different). Also, I'm pretty sure that they've asked for way more permission than BEP likes to do, considering that we're even talking about who's using who's motives.

What the Black Eyed Peas do isn't so much sampling as it is stealing a bunch of stuff. The originals can be heard, but they do a new thing with them instead of changing absolutely nothing. Sure, it's new lyrics, but they rush these things so fast that the people associated don't get all too happy about it.

I would bring up an example pertaining to how classical composers would do the exact same thing most of the time. Same basic argument, taking motives from their teacher's work and using it as themes for their own orchestral pieces. That is essentially what they do here in those examples you brought up.

Superwhat?

The Superbowl is a series of expensive advertisements, inserted between dramatic rounds of handegg. In the middle of it is a musical performance with poor mixing, featuring either an extremely popular studio pop group or senior-aged classic rock artists. (Exception: Prince, who was reportedly good.)

Crappy music performance and ad gluttony is an American tradition.

Black Eyed Peas only used to be good. They were a thing of the past. Their future is undesirable.

football is stupid why is there a superbowl journal not about commercials gosh, meebs

Because the commercials were even worse than the peas. Half the commercials I saw weren't even superbowl specific, just dumb stuff like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh8NtnLqdhY

NAILED IT.

I THINK THAT WAS A AREA SPECIFIC COMMERCIAL because i totally didn't see that one, it's terribad.

Then again, this year's supoerbowl commercials were subpar compared to the past.

http://buttersafe.com/2011/02/08/super-bowl/