Why manage it when you can let it get out of control!? Thats when the fun REALLY begins xD

I don't get what's wrong with being popular.
Oh well.
And the anger management thing is kinda dumb.
Unless you plan to use that later or something.

I like your anger.

And now I like you more for hating that stupid "pop-u-fur" status.

LOL nobody calls somebody a "Popufur" unless they themselves wish they were more popular

and anybody who thinks that ANY of your comics are real or signal something more serious then rainbow colored cheerios needs to GO FINISH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL!!!

o.o Wow...so the people that take your comics that seriously...do they also send aid to Tom the cat and Wile E. Coyote? Wonder if Jerry the mouse and Road Runner get sued...

The difference is that the Looney Tunes weren't the avatars of actual people. Not to mention usually comics involving couples are somewhat "yeah this is how we feel about eachother"

The fact remains: This is made by an individual portraying comical scenes between two characters of theirs. No one has the right to sit there and spout out worthless drivel about what they -think- is right.

That's up to the original owners of the character(s) and that's that. Anyone else who tries to place facts in a place where they've no bounds to even make such statements need to be bombed.

Sometimes an outside viewer can have a better viewpoint than those more closer tho!

Not true in this situation. Any attempt to state as such is also invalid. Who would know more than the owners themselves?

Cognitive dissonance and Battered Wife / Stockholm Syndrome could be factored into the situation comes to mind here.

You have really become an annoying individual. *Points to the journal* It has already been decreed that nothing is going on. Your point is invalid because of this.

*points to door*

You've never had a friend have you?

What does this have to do with anything?

While everything you've said is fundamentally correct, you're basing it off of a funny comic of fursonas, with no evidence of the actual lives of the two people. Just seems... shallow. Like you lack human contact.

How is that "lack of human contact"?

I like how people are assuming that I don't trust Sheninagans here. I'm pointing out that while he isn't being abusive to fatigue, the way people are defending him kind of stinks!

You should probably have made that point during one of your posts, seeing as how it's absent. I'm not defending the guys (girls?), I don't even know them nor do I care. I just dislike the incorrect analytical use of basic psychology concepts. It's a pet peeve.

Eeep I started something! xP
I just figured that Sheen isn't REALLY abusive because if you look at Fatigue's page he's not saying "ACK Sheen is so mean and abusive! D:"

Actually the two seem to be terrific :3

That isn't always the case I'm afraid. People on an abusive relationship can have an hard time or can be pressured by third parties (Family, friends of the abuser, socioeconomical situation outside the house are a few examples) into continuing the relationship.

However, since has enough varied folk to talk to, if there was indeed something going chances are the discussion over here wouldn't be so unanimous

Then why are you even bothering to insinuate such things, and henceforth undermine the entire point of this journal?

Because I am not a sycophant? I can believe or support something and at the same time consider the arguments against so.

but it seems like all you're doing is saying things just for the sake of saying things. Yeah, it -could- be interpreted as there being problems between the two, but they're very obviously isn't. I'm just confused as to why you're stirring things up when you don't really need to..

because such was mentioned on the opening post, and trying to solve this on what could be perceived as a circlejerk won't do any good.

Because some people have nothing better to do than but their head in with 'what ifs' and try to make themselves sound smart. Like their educated opinions will somehow put insight into something if they keep talking long enough

Yes, that is most definitely the case in this point. I don't care of you're a doctorate in Psychology or Social Relations, (warranting that's even possible with the latter) If you cannot hold the common sense that your opinions are not wanted, then you deserve scorn, or at least a healthy bitch-slap in the form of a polite reminder. Then, should they persist...bring on the flames.

seriously? they're sending notes asking to stop the violence? XD dumbasses...

People still use "popufur" these days? And aren't surprised that the same dynamic also applies to doodlers on other places?

Some people take stuff way too seriously, your comics are funny! But instead of goofy characters, you use an asshole character, and that's funny! I love my IRL gay asshole friend.
Just ignore the people that are like "omg /wrist this comic is so srs this is so painful to read"
For every few lovers there will be some haters
Draw a picture of you shoving a boot up their ass :/

might you be talking about lol i have to know if its him lol cuz i get the brunt force of it but he is an awesome person i just gotta know if its him you speak of

Just remember the majority of folks who enjoy your work will do so silently and without much feedback. You're creating for all the right reasons, mainly because you enjoy it. There will always be those who aren't content to simply not like something, they want to bother everyone else who happens to like it. Just ignore them.

I was just gonna read and go away but your comment hit me right in the face. I'm exactly like that I silently appreciate the work hardly ever leave comments (attention disorder doesn't help with that). So sheen & Fatigue, right here just to let you know you have a silent fanboy who smiles at and enjoys your comics, doesn't judge or care about your personal life (not in a cold terrible way just saying I'm not nosy where I haven't been invited) and what in the bloody hell is a popfur? sounds like some disgusting flavor of popcorn

well i personally love how in the comic your an ass hole it gives a new flavor to the stuff that i usually see and i enjoy your comics so much i save them on my ipad for later reading and as for your relationship in real life that aint nobodies buiseness but your own so those others givin you shit can go eff themselves

I think they are the greatest thing ever

idk why people would send hate mail :/

It's not like anyone is being hurt or you're insulting anyone or anything x.x

It's like my good friend told me, "Remember, if people hate you, it means you're doing something better than they can."

Amen! :)

Don't worry about it so much. Some people will hate you simply because you're popular and that's their problem, not yours.

Just enjoy the fans that you have.

a hot caddle prod in the anus usally remidies problems like these

Are people really taking a comical comic as real life representations? Wow... just wow.

Your relationship is fine, but the last comic definitely wasn't fun at all

I thought it was funny.

I didn't find the most recent one that funny, but I am not upset on a moral level. They are cartoon characters, which are often used in violent situations. Shenanigans mentioned it was an inside joke anyway and if anything I think it is just exaggerating mixed signals to the extreme. You know, extreme, like how cartoons are!

Cartoons don't torture characters who have no clue whatsoever (because it would be cruel), and even the ones targeting "older" viewers don't put gore between characters who otherwise love each other.

There is cruelty in fiction. Fiiiction. It isn't like shenanigans is promoting the behavior.

I don't know, I don't want to seem like a jackass with "LOL VIOLENCE I WILL HIT PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH VIOLENCE BEING FUNNY" and such but I just see it as a work of fiction. I don't get angry when there is rape, murder, or abuse in movies. Why would I with a comic?

:u People these days... lol

"haha .. i've called the cops on you dude ... i've seen you murder your mate ... i've seen it with my own eyes (in a comic though - but it still counts). and there are other witnesses too, and a photographic evidence (your comic again)"

yea :P i'll never understand that.

and here i thought we all showed how much me cared each other with baseball bats or other long hard objects to the head >w>;

You are doing something that makes you happy. That angers me because I'm too lazy to do something with my own life. If I don't have happiness then no one else should have it either.
*Shakes fist*

and you think posting journals like this will help?

GAWD i wish i could see this comment on so many journals :V

Well, this journal does, nonetheless, point out the nature of impulsive little manchildren who can't tell the difference between fiction and reality :b
Furries; staying classy!

Thats the problem, anything I post in defense of myself makes matter worse weather it be a comic or a journal.. The only real solution to this problem is to stop posting comics.. but then im accused "ragequitting.."

Im pritty much gonna get it no matter what i do...

1. don't be a whiny bitch
2. continue making comics
3. delete this journal right now

he's like Tiger Woods.

Doesn't seem too much like whining to me, otherwise the journal would be a lot longer =P

stupid people.....complaining.... don't know the difference between tough love and abuse...

What we should do is all start appreciating one of these people who supposedly hate "popufurs", and see what they do... If they enjoy it, then they're a hypocrit. If they don't, they'll kill themselves. It's a win-win situation!

That's a perfect idea.

lol

I like this.

Forget the stupid people who have nothing better to do with their time than try to bring you down. I personally LOVE your comics, and think they're a riot. I can't wait til the next one comes out! So don't let those other punks get you down!

How people can get so worked up over a comic is beyond me. Don't these guys have something better to put their time toward, like their lives off the internet?

Well it is understandable how homophobes are going to act as they do.

Anger management? Nah. A few more good swings with that baseball will get the anger out.

Uh, it has nothing to do with homophobia ??? I don't see where you got that from haha

Well, the fact that his comics are of two homosexuals (Please do not get angry at my wording, I was trying to use the least offensive words that I can), people who don't like homosexuals are going to bitch and complain about his work, giving him a hard time about it.

I don't think that is the case though, it is just the abuse and rape n' shit :I Less anger at the rape though, strange!

Ah true, didn't think of it that way.

Heh this is like a lot of avid book readers, people who want more out of what they see so they make shit up in their mind that isn't actually there.
I guess it makse them feel whole since they accomplish little else.
Keep up the good work on the comics~

Its a strange and twisted world out there.

I say your next comic should be 12 panels of you viciously beating fatigue with no punchline!

haha ^^ *totally agrees*

In all honesty, the amount of praise you get off everyone here & elsewhere should be enough to tell you that you are doing nothing wrong.

People all have different opinions so some of your stuff might not be to everyone's taste, but I do find them hilarious as many others do.

Guess it depends on peoples sense of humour.

Those who are dissing you...well, they're just jelly.

BONERS

I'd like to apologize Sheen; up above I seem to have involuntarily started something, which was not my intent :<

I'm really sorry, and keep up the good work *digs through wallet to send you a big donation*

Its not your fault, lol.. you dont have to do that

Well you know honestly Sheen I love your comics, and aside from that I really like your art ^_^
As an artist (no I make films, I don't draw x3) I know how hard it is to work your craft with the pressures of life, and some donations certainly helps things along the way.

I'm in a position where I can help a bit so I want to help :3 Just give me a couple days to get a prepaid card and teh monies will be on the way 8D
Until then keep up the good work ^^

You're such a sweetheart, you c: ~ <3

x"3 *purrs and blushes* Mmmf, naw I'm really not; all I'm doing is supporting artists, which is one of my favorite things to do <3
Thanks for your comment though ^_^

I think you're doing well though c: A nice, cheerful and supportive man is just what should be seen around a bit more often, huhu~ <3

Think of it as a compliment for being a good person c:

Think about this like most do...


no matter what...

HATERS GUNNA HAET!!!! D:<

...so yea...slap them in their hating faces with more stuff to hate on! >.>

A comic is a comic and not meant to be read too much into
Love your work. And looking forward to seeing more of it

This is popular now?

oh god, my indie cred... no.... nooo

Really? It's just satire, I would have thought that the nature of the previous comics would make that pretty obvious.

Unless... unless you really have Fatigue put on antlers and shove them in your ass.

Punch those furfags in their furry faggy faces!

Popufur?

Nah.

Popufurs are self righteous assholes that only think of their Jew money and how much they can fuck the customer over. Popufurs are narcissists that will put themselves over anyone else because they think they're worth something because their name is shit on over at ED. Popufurs are horny fucktards who whore their character to the highest bidder just for a couple watches.

Your comic s funny, and I'm saying this right now, if I get myself more than $10, guess where that money is going.

People complain and bash your comics?

Yeah, people have a hard time realizing that art isn't reality. But what's worse is they're selective about it. They'll go out of their way to be outraged about certain taboo subjects (pick a few that they seem to troll people about), but be totally silent about other taboo subjects (guro, vore, necro, scat, etc). So not only do they illogically care about fictional things, they do it inconsistently. Plus they're only doing it for themselves, fighting against things they don't like, and don't seem to care who it effects positively or negatively just as long as they have it their way... and this is all over something fictional/fake... People really have too much time on their hands. ^_^;

Fiction and reality, how do they work??

Some people I swear. e_e Sorry you've had to put up with this.

Sorry to hear that you are being berated by people who cannot separate fantasy from reality.

Your work is inappropriate, sadomasochistic and definitely bordering on psychotic at times... and I love every bit of it!

I'd say it's pretty also pretty "mean, horrible and abusing etc" by the persons noting you about things like these before actually being fully aware of the current situation that is in front of them, leaping into it like a rabid dog or something :I
Assuming things = Please don't..
Wish people'd think about that too sometimes, eh?

You make the best comics!! Hands down. I could show them to any non-furry and they would crack the fuck up.

I wouldn't worry so much about the people around here if I were you.

I facepawed reading the comics, the fact they took it like that. I saw it as funny, because its an exaggeration. I know situation of mixed signals and the comic made me think of it. Its damn funny, and people need to loosen up. :3

*the first comics is comments..i fail

Wow...

I can't believe that kind of stuff is happening O.o

That's.. ridiculous... Like, everytime I saw each of your streams you, yourself, were pretty nice and humble to everyone there. It did kinda surprise me a little but by no means I expected you to be abusing or such. I think some people have their heads so immersed in the internet they're starting to have problem discerning a comic from the truth.

That's actually why I didn't start working on my own idea for a strip. I didn't want to work with made up characters, but rather play around exhagerating situations with friends and such. I had a pretty funny idea for a first strip, and everyone I showed it too was like "That is mean! You're gonna make him really sad" and such and.. seriously.. it wasn't a big deal but.. holy crap there's an amazing potential for drama around here, so I just figured I'd drop it. I feel bad for it. Y'know what's funny? A while later I told the 'victim' how I was planning that one strip.. he felt it was funny...

I haven't become popular to the point of people talking about me behind my back (at least not that I know of) but I have to the point where people realize I'm a pretty pricey commissioner, and yet they feel entitled to ask for pictures just because I draw gifts now and then. They pressure me into working on pictures for them. Some of them do it 'the right way', but some insist on kind of demanding it, like they've earned something...

Anyway, sorry, I kinda went off my point there... my point is... well I don't really have one. I just think it's absolutely ridiculous and pathetic that some people think about you that way, but it's the kind of thing that happens when you get a spotlight in a drama-oriented community. I mean, don't get me wrong, there are lot of amazing people here, but there are some lunatics and there are some who want nothing but to stir things up.

Try not to let this kind of thing get to you. Your comic is enjoyed by a lot of people, I myself consider you to be a nice guy, at least when you're online 'with us', and I know it's none of my business (and I wish people would learn that bit) but I always had a really good feeling about your relationship with Fatigue and I wish you guys all the best in the world.

xD It's all fun and games when you're watching the drama. Then people start bringing it to your table -3-
REGARDLESS
I love your comics. :3 I'll donate if I ever find extra fundsyfunds

I LOLed

People might think you are angry and an ass like your character. I was thinking that before you said the thing about fatigue and the abusive relationship. All that that might have something to do with how they are acting.

*the abusive relationship /in the comic/ I mean. I'd assume that was understood but someone reading my comment will probably get it wrong if I don't add this part >.<

"A few of you have noted me links to websites that bash my comic and myself personally saying some pretty harsh things."


I gotta see this. You should totally post the websites.

Do it.

I approve of this message.
Which may or may not mean anything at all x3

1 word for assholes like them

FuckYou =D

Sorry, meant to say shitballs

I think your comics are freakin hilarious. They make me LOL, in fact. As for the bashers, I'd guess it's jealousy as well. Fuck em just do your thing.

Mixed Signals... I was like WTF?, but I know hyperbole when I see it.

BUT YOUR COMICS ARE REAL!!! THIS IS THE INTERNET!!! NO ONE DRAWS FAKE STUFF ON HERE!! STOP KILLING FATIGUE!!!

Yeah, some of the comments remind me of the trolls on Youtube who see an obviously fake vore video (often a cartoon) and post comments like "Where did this horrible incident take place?" or "Why didn't the camera guy help her?". But you got 235 favorites (so far), so I would call it a success.

Whoever hates will die a slow and painful death and burn in hell

OH WAIT THE COMIC'S NOT REAL


MY WORLD = SHATTERED

I really love the work you do; your style of drawing and the comics you produce are wonderful. It's a real joy to open my inbox and see that you've done another one. Whether you're popular or not makes no difference to me, so long as you keep being awesome.

Bleh.. Knew someone somewhere would take that comic too seriously..

People hate popular people because they are either jealous or hipsters. Sometimes they are jealous hipsters. Either way keep going, haters make you famous.

wow how could people seriously bash you for doing these comics? and for being popular?... lol if there is something a hater cant stand its a winner

you shouldn't have to apologize for being popular, it isn't something you have control over. and besides, there is no such thing as bad publicity, right? these bash comics are only accelerating an interest in you.

don't stop the madness

Weirdly, I'd take it as a compliment. Your readers really like Fatigue and some folks get distressed when bad stuff happens to him. It's a sign that you're connecting with folks.

Bastards just need to learn to let people express themselves...
It is just a comic!

Those bastards D:

Also, remember you are dealing with furries, lots of us seem to not be well endowed in the logic and reasoning department sadly enough

Dear, Shenanangnaganagngnagaganigans,

I like your comics. You are a pretty cool guy.

Sincerely, some other guy.

If you let anyone dictate how you create art other than yourself, you're wasting everyone's time. Part of being popular on the internet is dealing with people who don't like you without even knowing you. If you want to create art that everyone reads, this is always going to happen. Just keep doing what you do if this comic is important to you. The real fans will stick around. Don't give this any more legitimacy by commenting on it any more.

You know, anything that is loved by people is also hated by people. Always. Every person, every food, every movie, every discovery, every idea anyone ever had or will have. I'm surprised you didn't know that when you started.

somehow i doubt that people slinging terms like 'popufur' around get out more than 1 hour a day ,wouldn't have pegged you for a guy who let crap like that get to them though ;3 ... anyways, you're pretty awesome; ditto @ your comics ... people who try to literally derive your personality from your comics are the same people harassing actors for characters they've played, etc. , well.. either that or analy retentive beyond reason x3
If there's anything they should be jealous of it's the fact you seem to have a life xD

As I saw in another comic that a friend of mine is creating and posting, furries apparently take comics VERY seriously..
Now I don't know what it's like to have to deal with and see all this retarded shit people online say about you/your comic/your relationship/etc, so I don't know if this is just shitty "advice", but there will always be idiots who take things way too seriously, even if it's just a drawing. Just ignore them and keep doing what you want or whatever.. for each retard who takes things way too seriously, there are 100 other people who enjoy what you're doing, and can take a joke.
Just a ballpark estimate.