what is the voct?

vore original character tournament

im so sorry, but all your fans see how good you are and care

thanks man

youre welcome ^.^

oh im Rotty

nice ta meetcha

so roop what can this lil pup do to help?

its just good to know i have fans of my work. if ya ever wanna chat or anything, feel free to hit me up

well id love to chat nao if its okay

sure, got a messenger?

yahoo mail IM

what messenger do you have?

mine are all posted on my page

Sorry, Roop. *Hugs tightly*

*hugs back* thanks Vet

*nods, hugs tightly* Always here for you, dude.

Wait, what warnings? What happened?

the judges dont care for integrity, long story short

If you feel like giving the long story, I woulnd't mind hearing it. If you're not comfortable discussing it in public, Notes would be fine.

still think your story was better

thanks *licks*

Sorry to hear that things didn't work out for you with the VOCT.

To be honest, I haven't read any of the entries since the middle of the first series. A mixture of totally not agreeing with some of the judges choices for some of the entries, and not having enough time to read everything.

I still wish anyone involved the best of luck and hope they have a lot of fun, but it was simply something I couldn't spend the time following any longer.

Just don't let this get you down. It's in the past now, and best to focus on the future. <3

it just sucks man, i had so much invested into the tournament, to see it tainted by poor judging and lack of caring for integrity really bums me out

Ok, I wana hear the story about this.

His opponent has no sense of grammar or spelling or such, and was still ranked higher than he was. So when he went to the judges about it, Mage told him to cry some moar.

Basically. :P

I heard it from mages perspective. I want to hear it from Roop

we'll chat next time we're both on AIM

You may not have been there, but conversations about the present VOCT took place at AC. Issues like this were raised, especially regarding past tournaments. Sorry to hear that this ish got the better of you. No one can say you didn't try.

I'm sorry Roop! :( But yeah...I guessed that the judges were as crooked as their leader. XP But cheer up. Your a great artist and writer anyways. You don't need a competition to determine that. :) And if people don't like them, then they're just jealous!

I take offense to that

Sorry! ^^;;

its ok *noms you*

You know you've been forgiven, when your nommed. It's like the voreiphiles' version of a hug! XD

indeed *chuckles*

It'll be okay, Roop! :( It's tough to swallow, but you did your best. While you deserve to go further, it's okay to duck out. I don't blame you, since Mage has always been a superdouche and always will be. Even in VOCT2 with Luke he was, and from what Keith has said from past experience. It just doesn't stop. XP In retrospect this could be a good thing, you can distance yourself from that guy.

That's a nice thing to say about someone you've never met.

Secondhand smoke is worse than firsthand.

that's kind of a dumb response

It basically means it's probably a good thing I haven't met him. :P I've just seen his antics from afar through my friends.

heh, nevermind

Of course, not to be totally hateful, I give credit to your writing abilities from one writer to another, you're a good author.

Well I thank you for that. Also I don't blame you for thinking of me in that way, there is a lot of tonal infliction that is lost over the net.

i'm honestly not really surprised something like this happened. honestly, for this contest's sake, i hope they end it after this one. it doesnt deserve the fame it gets, and its attempt to "legitimize" itself has an OCT is just sad and embarrassing.

Good news, we probably will.

just because you stop something doesnt mean it ends.

VOCT? They're still doing that shit?

Bravo to you Roop. Screw the VOCT. It's a load of crap; it was when it began, still is now, and always will be.

I welcome you into the high coveted walls of "Go Fuck Yourself"

Oh grow up. This isn't sour grapes; I've been saying the VOCT is a load of crap since it began. It's half art-whoring, half dick-swinging contest. I'm not an artist and I don't care to know whose preds are better / worse than any of mine, so. . . Well, yeah, go fuck yourself.

Which is exactly why you have no say in the matter you pompous dickbag. Why don't you act like you know all about something you haven't participated in or researched beyond the bare minimum. Some people go to a lot of effort to make something half decent out of a bad hand and they don't need clueless fuck-wits like you shitting on them for all their hard work.

So because I personally have not participated, you assume I know nothing about it, even though I read the rules before deciding not to partake and have over a dozen of the past and present participants on my watch list.

Also, my problem was with the VOCT itself, not with all the poor sods that were duped into participating in it, yet you've accused me of "shitting on" the artists instead of the VOCT or the jerk that created it.

Bravo LapSeph. You successfully performed a leap of logic followed by a blatantly false accusation. You are now qualified to work for FOX News.

The Roop is not the first artist to ever tell me he was upset with and/or quitting the VOCT. More like the seventh or eighth. For all the hard work and effort the artists put into the VOCT, all they ever seem to get in return is a middle finger.

You obviously can't read very well then, can you? And you're a writer... How backwards is that?

I was referring to the VOCT itself and the people running it to begin with when I accused you of "shitting on" it. Not the artists and writers who participated. Though I suppose you're really not doing them much of a service with your statements either...

And to further exemplify your "cluelessness" on the entire matter at hand, I can't help but get the impression from your wording that you've completely failed to realize that I AM "the jerk that created it." So I'm kind of stuck wondering if you've just completely overlooked this out of stupidity, are outright lying about having read a damned thing about the VOCT, or if you're just referring to me in third person to be even MORE of an ass. Awful hard call to make really. Feel free to enlighten me.

And no shit Roop isn't the first one to get pouty over losing in the VOCT. Would you like me to NAME every last person to post a soul crushing journal that I have to feel responsible for and carry around on my shoulders for the rest of my life? Because I can. It's not easy trying to wrangle upwards of 64 people over the course of six months and not come away with a few casualties. It's unfortunate and it upsets me to no end. But I tried my best. My volunteers tried their best. And the participants tried their best. And a lot of really amazing things came out of the effort for everyone involved. It was not without it's stumbling points, but I can't name a person who hasn't ultimately benefited from the experience, even if the healing took time for a rare few.

So no, go on, give me some more outside opinion of the matter. Try and tell me something I Don't Already Know. Go on. Spit in my face some more. I can take it. Because as far as I am concerned, Your Opinion. Is. WORTHLESS.

Oh I can read. I'm just not reading it the way you want me to.

And I didn't remember you as the initial dimwit who concocted this massive mound of idiocy because, simply put, I didn't care to commit your name to memory. I'm not so spiteful and full of hate that I keep a list of everyone on the planet that I've ever once thought was a dick, douche and/or dumbass. Though I could have guessed you were he by how passionate you are about defending the VOCT and how low you've sunk in the process of defending it.

You're not improving your case LapSeph. Your VOCT is not some holy wonder that cannot be questioned, the many artists that got burned or burned out by your VOCT are not collateral damage in the name of a greater good, and you are not some poor martyr to the arts. All you're doing is lending weight to my original presumption about the VOCT: That it was the brainchild of a couple of internet trolls.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVCtkzIXYzQ

I applaud your desire to give up thanks to what I have come to understand as a completely ridiculous lot of whining. I've seen much bigger people crying for much better reasons than this. Thanks for carrying on like a good trooper in my stead. -.- You make me regret not ending your game sooner.

wow, thanks for being pleasent... i quit because a judge actually did make a mistake, and i felt i was cheated. if you want to call it whining, thats fine, whatever makes you happy. that being said, ive rejoined the voct, and was just actually about to make a journal to say so

*slow claps*

that's fine then, but seriously... this is the way this stuff goes. Sometimes poor calls are made. Human error. From everything I'm told, even if the mistake hadn't been made, your score still wouldn't have topped your opponent. Either way, it's an awful lot of fuss to be making over a minor issue.

And I've read enough hate in this journal for "pleasantness" to go flying out the window, so pardon me, but I'm not in the least happy with most anyone right now.

*offer paw* truce? im offering to nip any bad blood right here, if you would be willing to. i admit i lost it, and im apologizing for it. my side of the arguement was a little more than im sure what you heard, but im willing to let the matter drop here

This is acceptable... My apologies in return.

thanks man, fresh slate

In my experience: Your characters + Someone you don't know's characters = Asking for trouble
When competition is added into the equation it WILL fail. No doubts about it.
OCTs are jinxed from the get go.

I don't know the reasoning why you dropped out, I haven't been paying attention to it, but I do know that some qualm about it was already overdue.

Oh and of course you mad the right decision by doing so before more bad feelings started festering.