aw what happened?

Sadly, people are like that..... :(

If they choose that path, they'll soon learn that fame is fleeting, and soon they'll end up alone and sad, with no one to blame but themselves.

Hmmmm. I don't know what to say. I can't defend the babyfur community either, even if I'm one...

Every month, I read a shitload of journals, journals like "baaaw they hate us for no reason" and stuff, while I actually don't feel endangered, hated or something. (I've seen another one this morning) When you read their profiles, a lot of them are agressive, writing stuff like "I'M A BABYFUR I DONT CARE IF YOU DONT LIKE GO AWAY" while they just made their accounts some weeks ago. You can see the same thing on pictures, sometimes. No question possible, treating "strangers" like total shit "IF YOU'RE NOT A BABYFUR DONT COMMENT" as if the only goal of other furries was to go nazi on babyfurs.


But being one ... I can say that I never got harassed, and thought I hade some doubts (which is why I tend to be careful about what I say to other furries, who in fact don't care about what I am, mostly) and that thing tends to annoy me, it's just pure stupid paranoia.

Then when it's not "we're being hated" it's always "I am so lame, look at my low self esteem problems!" ... I mean ... if I see someone doing proper babyfur art, I watch him/her, and then BANG, emo drama in every journal from him/her for the rest of my days.


At the end, I think people really hate us ... because it seems like most babyfurs want to be hated.

Kazootles! You definately put a lot of what I have seen over the course of my journeys on here very well.

I'd like to elaborate on the "...babyfurs want be hated" and drama aspect you brought up if it's cool. :)

One of the saddest things I ever read is lines on user pages about how "ashamed" a babyfur is to be a babyfur. Reading it reminds me of how I used to feel about myself before I gained the courage to join FA with the purpose of discovering who I really was on the inside and whether I could find acceptance in having a diaper fetish and pure love of all things cute.

The way I see this site is a chance to find acceptance where otherwise you cannot. Unfortunately, I fear too many people opt to not grow themselves in lieu of finding quick comfort in groups or attempting to gain superiority over those who they may see as less talented and/or capable.

What would be nice for folks to learn in being at a site like this is that it CAN be different than High School, College, or Work. The reason is that it is an outlet for us to use our creativity to convey messages we may not otherwise be able to share. It's not about how talented you are compared to another person as much as it is being able to put yourself out there and say, "This is me and I like me and if you like what I do let's be friends and grow together through our shared interests and talents."

Being able to shed shame and learn to appreciate yourself while understanding how everyone has something unique about them is truly an important lesson and feeling to internalize. I have all sorts of pals here and a good amount are not babyfurs. This isn't because I don't like babyfurs, but because I choose to be open and understanding to others' feelings while not limiting myself to a single ideal. I'd have never built the confidence in myself that I have now if I hadn't burst out of my comfot zone and challenged myself to interact with slews of different folks with different tastes and sexual orientations. It's how we grow and is neccessary to further ourselves both as individuals and creative forces.

Bottom line, if people could stop being sheep in search of a shephard we'd be in a lot better shape around here and in real life, too. It's okay to find a role model or mentor, but sheepishly staying trapped in a comfort zone will never allow you to do anything more than find drama as you never come into yourself and just get caught up in group mentality drama. We each have reasons to be followed and follow and should never forget that the only real person who can change how we feel about anything is ourselves. People can help, but we have to be able to take that help, embrace it, grow, and share the love by being there to aid those who, like us at a time, were in need of someone to give us a chance. :)

The way I see this site is a chance to find acceptance where otherwise you cannot. Unfortunately, I fear too many people opt to not grow themselves in lieu of finding quick comfort in groups or attempting to gain superiority over those who they may see as less talented and/or capable.

This is true.
Before I discovered the ABDL community on DA, I thought that I was the only one like that in the whole world - Which was probably one of the sources of low self esteem problems I had back then. I didn't wait to join when I discovered that place. But yep, some people just spend their time doing journals that look like questions... while they don't accept any of your solutions, just as if they were waiting for a "magical solution" to change everything. I just wonder if these journals actually mean "I'm looking for help" or if it's to seek attention, just like a contest... "See, see, I'm even more sad and pathetic than the others who are claiming the exact same thing!"


Then, immaturity and being a babyfur could be related, for very obvious reasons. You just have to see how diaperfurs, who simply have a diaper fetish but aren't in the whole babyfur/regression thing generally act better for instance. Then, some people just think that their life is just a big fetish, falling into excess, pure immaturity, and all.

Being able to shed shame and learn to appreciate yourself while understanding how everyone has something unique about them is truly an important lesson and feeling to internalize.

I'd just like everybody to understand that. But that would be an utopia. I tried to make some people understand that, but they don't really seem to understand, even if they answer affirmatively... Since nothing changes then.

Bottom line, if people could stop being sheep in search of a shephard we'd be in a lot better shape around here and in real life, too.

Now that's a funny thing. I remember someone in secondary school who was incredibly smart for his age (He was 14... And basically smarter than teachers themselves) He was actually so smart that people would just ... follow him and all, almost worship him.

He realized that, and explained them, in a big speech, that it was not a good idea, that anybody could be as smart as him (though I doubt that) and that it didn't mean anything, anyway, since being smart doesn't always mean having good intentions, or being right, and then told them to think by themselves, a bit like Kant did ... in ... oh well I don't remember the name of the book.

But at the end, they totally worshiped him more for the smart thing he said (They obviously didn't understand him) and nothing changed. Kant would probably be facepalming to that, I guess ...

Some people just think unable to think, even if you want them to, they'll keep searching for a master.

Then, I agree with mostly everything, especially on the last sentence :/

*hugs* I don't really mind if you leave babyfur-ism as long as you still draw and do art I am more than happy you are getting away from the drama and being happy yourself