mm... been there a couple times. I realize you probably don't know me, but remember, that no matter where you go, it's only a temporary fix... you have to fix what it is about yourself that keeps you down... before you can really ever move forward... unless you're living with someone who makes your life hell?

this is hard for me to say. The friends I have out here. I love them to death. But the one I mostly am around.. knows actually nothing about me... and gives me so little credit to me.
The friends who do try and want to understand me... i just cant see often at all.

and thinking about this kinda thing brings me to tears... it breaks me up inside.

Sounds like you need to have a good long talk with this friend... but really they don't sound like the type of person to care... It's probably worth a shot though. Sometimes being direct about issues is the best way to be heard and taken seriously. I think I know what you mean tho... they're so wrapped up in themselves... that despite being around you forever, they've never actually learned anything about you or reached out? I don't know... I think some people are just like that... If I were you I'd try as much as possible to see my other friends... it'll probably help you all around, a lot of what you feel seems like loneliness.

Thats a beast in of itself. I just dont feel that there is much worth in having a serious talk with said person anymore. its such a long story sadly.

thank you for your reply and advice btw. I find it neat how when i post journals like this. I usually get warm hearts from "strangers" who come and reply first.

Lazzy said it best. People like the person you are talking about sound way to caught up in their own stuff that they really can't put enough effort in helping others, whether they want to or not. As for the depression part, I know where you are at all to well... I mean hell, its 3am and I'm drinking Amp and eating potato chips and contemplating 'life'. The past few months seem to be shitty for most. Hang in there, you want to vent feel free to shoot me a PM.

I find it neat that every time i post journals like this.. Its USUALLY not the people I know beyond their FA page that reply.

awesome advice from the pair of you though. The friend in question is sadly one of those..that.. well everything is a negative in their world. Ive been direct in telling them as such. but they mostly seem the type you just.. cant talk to at all. I dunno I feel ive given up on trying with that direction with said person. Seems like it wouldnt bear fruit no matter what was said.

People deal with negative situations differently, perhaps this person is such a downer because they are dealing wiht stuff they can't truly handle. I mean thats what its like for me atm. Some people would rather shut others out than get hurt further. Or they have a negative outlook/approach so that their optimism isn't thrown in their face should something go wrong. People who suffer from depression display and live with it in many many ways as I'm sure you know. Sadly, as I'm struggling to make sense of all the BS going on from the past year and my current situation, I don't know if I can't really help with your dilemna other than offering an ear and whatever advice i got from living this far

any words help honestly.

Im proud to say Im not one of those who cry on their journals who pout and complain when people offer help. Not realising the journal is a request for help (sorta)

No prob.

I think the worst is putting one out there for help and not getting it. My little corner of FA is lonely haha

I know how you feel sometimes *hugs*. In my case i need a new job and quickly. I just need some decent changes around here.

i need that aswell actually

I have to agree with Aduleon, I use to be one of those negative thinking people, I always had to deal with things on my own without without help, till someone i lived with made me sit down and talk... If you feel like your not making any headway, maybe you ask what is on that persons mind, but that might not be easy as they are most likely always having his/her guard up.

It not the best advice, but what Aduleon and Lazzydragon gave the best advice. Also don't be worried about turning to friends for support, they will help you.

With the best of wishes,
James

if all the well wishing doesn't seem to cut it, have you put thought into antidepressants? they are a LAST resort but moving your life to try and escape your troubles doesn't work, please trust me on that. antidepressants don't have to be a lifelong thing, just long enough to fix the things that are going to shit in your life.

I wish I knew something to say to help you but i`m all the way over in Arizona and dont know your situation *hugs* I do hope things work out for you though.

I kind of have been feeling the same way lately. Do you think that'll help if you start over?