Release the Kraken!

take up the fight!

I dunno, mainly try to work out with them that yours gets finished in stream aswell, if possible first,
or just look if they even have a linear working programm or not. Not much to do about it ~_~

Artists can be like wild animals, they do whatever they feel like at times

Happpened to me too. Made me feel pretty uncomfortable as well... in the end I had to ask for a refund even though I actually shared the A and B points with you as well. Took forever too and in the end the artist took offense to it as well, acting as if I had done something horrible, even though I waited several months with the artist doing random commissions and doodles on stream. Makes me wonder if it's the same one...

It was like the artist - after taking my money - lost any enthusiasm for drawing the commission and simply had fun with others on ustream/livestream...

Out of curiosity, who was the artist? (Note me please... so we don't promote hate here or somehing)

Christ, is that a vulpix in bondage gear?

It's actually a vupix drawn in the shape of a ridea species => http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6917493

They're a mix of horse/wolf/fox/dragon, used to help out with heavy pulling, kind of like work horses.

I can keep you occupied WINK WINK.

Talk is cheap! Let's dance D:<

Horizontal Mambo? =D

I can see your frustration. Generally people should be doing comissions in order of payment rather than method or comission style.

Nag the people till they do the work :P I know you don't want to cause trouble (I'm the same) but sometimes, you should be trying to get the "bang for your buck" and all that :P

Well, talking from my own experience as artist. Sometimes you just have an urge to draw something else first.
Maybe the idea of a commissioner inspired you. And when you then draw somebody else's commission you think of the other commission all the time, thus your commission wouldn't be so good.

You are right. A professional artist should be able to churn out pictures when asked regardless how he is feeling.

But if you agreed on a deadline and he manages to finish in time, he still might do other pictures first, depening on what takes more time, uses special techniques and such.

This sounds to me more like the artist procrastinating in favor of derpin around with streamwork. I've had it happen to me before, where I made the mistake of paying someone in full because I wanted their work and I was swayed by his sob story about not having rent money.

I waited patiently for almost a year before asking for a refund since absolutely zero progress had been made, and I saw the gigantic queue that he actually had of back work that he had neglected in favor of stream derp.

The cause? I'd say it was more than likely his pricing structure, since it favored small works over more complex.

Moral of the story: Don't pay for your slot until you see the artist is about to start yours (stream) or has given you some really rough position sketches, otherwise you open yourself up to their whims on your dime.

I didn't know it was a year! I thought it was a few weeks o.o

In the new age of things... welcome to the speed.

250ms, thats all it takes.

http://www.slashgear.com/250ms-is-e.....king-01216392/

Waitwaitwait...

Stream commissions and regular commissions are different things to complete in proper order? I just work on commissions whenever I stream... I don't make a difference like "stream commissions" and "regular commissions." I just find it easier to work when I've other's watching, it gives me a strange sense of motivation.

Some people like to to stream quickie sketches separate from their normal work to grab a quick buck, and get into the habit of pumpin out the quickies for extra cash while forgetting their large ticket customers.

Then they're forgetting the point of a proper commission queue.

Exactly. Since you stream it all, tt'd be like if you prioritized all your sketches before the full color stuff, and kept taking sketch after sketch. In the computer world it's known as starvation. X3

Not everyone has a rigid queue, so to say. And I get that, sometimes you're in the mood for working on a particular project over another. But making a habit of it and never getting around to the oldest work is... bleh.

I've seen this happening, and it really bothers me. If only there was some way to use a long distance cattle prod to get the work started and done! I've only asked for one refund due to neglect because of similar problems, but I never got the money back so I consider the money gone for all practical purposes. It's a trend I do not like at all and I hope that it reverses itself soon.

Happened to me as well. There's a gift I was given that hasn't been completed yet. Pushing two years since it was commissioned.

Could politely ask/remember the artist that you were commissioned first...maybe mention how it usually goes or something? Haven't actually gotten any commissions to myself, so i'v not noticed this other then the fact a few people have been streaming recently.

Pardon, I meant to type remind.

I think its partially because stream commissions are cheaper/easier/lazier/more convenient. The artist doesn't have to deal with complicated descriptions or backgrounds, just quickly do some lineart, maybe some basic coloring, and with a captive audience of fans watching.

I know why they want to do it, what I don't understand is how they think it's okay to simply never do older works which have been paid for.

Which is why I never take payments upfront, myself. Yeah, there's a chance I can get screwed over, but there's much less pressure/guilt.

Definitely understand what you mean, there is one particular artist as well that I have commissioned from, but then do busts and such in streams but I don't want to get refunded either cause I want the art, so it's like, you're kind of obligated to stay :x .

I have been waiting about 6 months now for my art that I purchased. It never hurts to email the artist too! I have done that after 4 months of waiting and I got a reply back but now it's 6 months and still nothing . I am tolerant with it though, have waited many months for such before, and it was worth the wait (sometimes) x) .

I'll never understand the point of a stream commission. Ok, you're doing it on a program to let others watch you draw so you can boost your popularity and work load a bit, it's still a commission and it still needs to be done.

Best bet would be drop weekly reminders to said artist "Oh hey, I was wondering when you'll do my {insert picture here} on {insert streaming program}?" or something along that line. Let them know that you've been very patient. If worse does come to worse, and it's been a while still, it's time to try asking for a refund or compensation for the wait.

If all else fails; RELEASE THE HOUNDS.

I need to assemble some hounds, then.

If ya don't find any volunteers (I'd volunteer just for the hell of it.), I guess a field trip is in order. We'll find you hounds in no time!

before you go yelling at them. artists will do them czuse they need the extra money. they are usually nothing in detail as there commisions. an example: artist i payed a week ago for a high rez pic is doing badges,icons or whatever so they have money for things like FWA thats coming up. they are probally working on it. but u could probally nicely ask how far they are on it.

5 years with no progress.

yikes! then that it a reason to yell at them...why did u wait so long.....

I've tried polite nudging before. Doesn't do much.

tell them plain up i want my art now...give them a deadline to or you will report them or somethin

Artist Beware, let em have it on there. :P

o.o

...that's around the time you met me o.o

What the hell? Are you sure they haven't just screwed you over or forgot?

Quite sure!

Yeah, it does get a bit irritating. As I've seen, they'll do stream commissions as 'quickie' commissions, just fast stuff they can kick out for cheap so they tend to use them frequently when they need cash. But yeah, that's still not really an excuse since they've agreed to do the work.

My pet peeve is still artists that take commissions, then just dick off and do a bunch of personal art or gift art, oh but when you prod them "oh I'm SO BUSY".

I do try to be patient and understanding, but there is kind of a limit where they're just taking advantage :P

:o I hope it isn't me! The reason I been doing Livestream donation stuffs is BECAUSE I wasn't getting commissions! X3

Of course it wasn't you, silly

Yeah, I've had the same thing happen to me. Paid an artist like 60 bucks for a commission, and then they suddenly decided that they needed emergency money for some convention, so they started doing rapid-fire $10 stream commissions. This went on for months, with various different reasons why she needed money immediately, and as long as she was doing those, she wouldn't touch my commission that I spent 6 times as much on. When it finally passed the year mark, I gave up and asked for my money back, which it took another 3 months for me to get (she 'needed time to get the money together' and then 'forgot')

Incidentally, are this artist's initials PP?

Nope D:

I try playing nice guy with problem artists and it doesn't get me anywhere.

You will have to be a hardass and say either that you get a picture or a refund or they'll go up on the artist_beware LJ community. Especially if it has been five years.

In my opinion he should do the art in order. What is the difference in taking money from you and making you wait and taking money from someone else and making them wait? What he should do is accept payment to show that he's going to do the art for someone, then let them know there are others in front of them and that there will be a wait for the art. That way he keeps himself out of the financial trouble but also does things fairly.

Not saying that you should be a quitter, but I think you should count your losses and move on. I've been dicked over by about 2-3 artists so far and sure, it does suck that they get your money for nothing, but if they feel that they can treat people the way that they do, karma will eventually bite them in the ass. (I know one of the artists that scammed me has already been bitten and it feels good :3 ).

Try to get a refund if you can, if not then put a post on artists beware then try to forget about it.

I've been waiting over a year for my commission to be done by a noteworthy artist.

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