gotta say i agree with you 100 percent

Thank you.

course! :( it is seriously annoying how artists do that...

D: I hope everything gets better for you :c

I hope everything gets better for this site.

Yeah :c

Some people certainly take this stuff WAY too seriously.

It's just fantasy! *dodges incoming bricks* >.o

*switches the Br with a D*

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ontopic, i have to say i agree, thought people will steady defend themselves by saying "It's just how i Am."

Thoughts can hardly be tamed. Actions, however, can.

Treating "The Person I Am" like it somehow makes your differences a matter that is not up for discussion doesn't work in real life, and it shouldn't work here. For example: If you fantasize about murdering specific people to the point of sexualizing it, and then create a highly detailed image to the effect, and then post it...

At what step were things outside your control?

Hey, I understand both sides of the argument. Tastes differ. There are plenty of people who see the pics I work on as atrocities. And you know what? I'm honestly sorry to have upset them. It's why I try and keep what I post in the same general area of tastes.

But yes, some people DO take things way too seriously, on both sides of the fence. There are a lot of hard feelings from one group to another, and a lot of condescension from the so-called "Haves" to the "Have nots." Similarly, there's a lot of complaining from the people who produce very little.

That's the thing. Regardless of your talent. Regardless of posted content. Being petty, mean, selfish, and downright awful is never acceptable.

What gets me is how much of those sentiments are expressed artistically, as well.

Thanks for being willing to offer a counter-opinion, by the way.

No problem, I take being a guinea pig as fun. :P

But seriously, I would like to hope things get better, but in the end, we're still human.

Personally, I'm no artist, but I have great respect for them. I can't understand why some people would feel "entitled" so much when it comes to this stuff.

"Compromise" isn't a bad word. But maybe I'm getting off topic... :x

Whats dumb is that they block people for it :P
It sucks to see how some artist are like this to people. I tend to find them very picky of who to hang.
They sure have grown such nasty attitudes, but least some are very cool people though.

And some are.

There are some absolutely wonderful people here, as well as some people who could be wonderful if you just took the time and patience to help them. But I find that most of them are either unpopular, untalented, or are very popular, but fear the backlash that can come from stating an/any issue that has become more or less completely obvious.

I dunno. I feel that you run your risks if you have the mature filter turned off. That said, warning thumbnails are a nice thing, especially when fetishes get involved.

That's why all of my thumbnails are tailored. By and large they give you a pretty solid idea of what you're going to see. It still upsets some people, and I'm actually sorry that happens.

As to the other point, plenty of disturbing images are posted without mature tags. Just because it's not smut doesn't mean it can't be upsetting.

Some people are legitimately bothered by some of the content that shows up here. And you know what? Their feelings are just as valid as those of the people who created it. Just because one side made an image does not mean the difference of opinion automatically defaults to them, and this isn't a land war.

We're a social species. When we see something that causes us emotional distress, we want to solve it. "If you don't like it, don't click it," while a valid argument under a lot of circumstances, does not automatically mean the other party is no longer a human being.

Of course smut isn't the only category deserving a mature or even adult tag. It doesn't have to be porn to need a warning label.

My problem is that: Person A puts up a piece of work.
Person B clicks it because they are curious, and there isn't a warning thumbnail. They find that the subject matter is disturbing to them.
Person B posts "I don't like things that involve [theme]"
What can person A do to respond? "Well, I'm sorry you don't like [theme]."?
"My apologies, I'll make sure to not make anything else referencing [theme]."?

I get that "Well you shouldn't have clicked" is a rude and off-putting response. But frankly, when someone's opening statement is how they are offended by a major theme of the work, there isn't anywhere for that conversation to go.

Yes, and I see your point. There are tactful ways to go about addressing the problem material, and a comment like that definitely isn't tactful, but it doesn't mean that there can't exist a reasonable disagreement between both parties.

And...I personally see nothing wrong with "I'm sorry you don't like this piece."

Admittedly, this specific matter is one that demands compromise, but when a piece is posted having a high likelihood for backlash, and done blatantly...I dunno, it feels like the first insult hurled wasn't that of the commenter.

I just don't feel like a person should have to apologize for what they put up in their gallery. But I suppose it does constitute a form of public grounds... To me the compromise is warning tags for certain subjects.

Posting shock images or something for the backlash is rude. But it's all about intention at that point, and it can be hard to judge if someone's posting just to freak people out or because they genuinely want to share with others / have people that want to see the piece on its own merits.

So then it seems in the end we have our disagreements. That's fine. I wasn't expecting my viewpoint to be validated by everyone. Thank you for expanding the subject so thoroughly while keeping an even tone, I appreciate it.

Thank you for taking me seriously throughout. I find that I have to talk it out with people before I can even start to understand where I stand on an issue, let alone where others stand or where I want to be.

I just wish I knew how to help.

And that confession really does make me less than qualified to talk about this subject.

Thank you for your input, though!

Well, I myself am lucky enough to be able to do that. But the surprising lack of social connection that occurs on this site can make things for some...downright awful.

There are exceptions, inversions, and all other amalgamations of this. But it just seems that, by and large, the waters of FA can become very unwelcoming and defensive.

I wholeheartedly agree with that.

But it does take some initiative, sadly, and leaving your own bubble of friends can be daunting. Thanks for your input.

If there's one thing I can't stand, it's people who are "professional assholes" or like to play the "edgy" card.

It's not so much being an outright douchebag, so much as it's the idea that if they do anything to upset you, that that is completely and wholly YOUR problem, and that YOU are the one out of line for taking issue.

Ah, ok.

I can see what you're saying. It's usually pretty hard to talk with people on this site. They always seem ether angry, or depressed.

It can be. And it's not like people come to this site with certified training on how to resolve those kinds of things.

The enmity here on FA can be palpable sometimes, and that just bothers me.

i understand randomness of things people clicking their dislikes , mostly why i post thumbnails and warnings but i still get comments who should not be there:F

people will alweys be an ass , big artists or avange users , some are less some are more

I feel like that's no reason to do nothing about it, or to at least be open for solutions to it.

hidding comment is nice alternative:D

Yes, that's very true. I've gotten a few comments that were volatile in nature, and as much as I hate having to silence other people like that, it keeps me from getting into an argument, and keeps -others- from getting into an argument on my submission. It's only happened a couple of times, but all things considered, I find that it's for the best.

as a matter of choice i like to avoid drama so if coment is made for sense to make argument or being rude in general i love "hide button" person never knows i removed massage unless he activly checks all massages he ever posted:D

The thing I find most irritating is deceptive thumbnails. People using thumbnails with another artists work, with or without permission... Using the same thumbnail for everything... Blank thumbnails that say what it is but give you no idea as to the quality...

A good, thoughtfully made thumbnail that pertains to the content and quality of the actual piece is ideal. How else can a stranger tell if they'll like it or not? The description maybe, if they're not browsing on a tablet...

Different subject, but alright.

I honestly see don't see many deceptive thumbnails, personally, except when it's writers. Writers seem to have quite a habit for ganking whatever they like as a lure to their work. As to thumbnails that give no idea to either content nor quality? I...never click them. I've seen enough stuff on FA to know that 99% of the time, if you're not showing any meaningful hints, the piece is likely going to be garbage.

On that note, do my thumbnails deceive? I feel like they give a good idea of what's going on...

Yours don't deceive. :) they're a good example of the kind of thumbnails I like to see. :)

Trust me, there are impolite people who fell good trashing the others just as there are trolls. These are, usualy, manifestations of jealousy or overconfidence. I had a classmate who always felt important just cause he could draw like a pro. He made up in his mind that he's the big shot. As far as i heard, he failed tests for university. This justproves that a "swollen" head doesn't take you anywere.

I, for exemple, don't let myself be upset with bad comments. I always say: "If there are haters, there a lovers". I know i'm not a talented artist but i'm here to show what i can do. If people take it really serious, ok! I respect them. And respect is a 2 way road.