You know us drawing OUR characters doesn't give anybody the right to cratize their torso being big or the fact that's it line paper so what I use lined notebook paper big whoop not like I have the money for other paper yet if I make my character with I long or big torso its because that's how my character looks and how I or my wife picture them so step off don't cratize something if you don't know how its supposed to be made we have a lot of chars to draw of our still and don't have anywhere near half done if we want them a certain way that's how we are gonn draw them if we have somebody else draw them we will tell them what we want so don't say something if you don't know how we see them not that we mind being cratized cause we both are still praticing and learnin on this stuff but if you don't know what I want don't say anything