I think my biggest turnoff to the entire shape of a Kaisura has to do with Sergals, and seeing pictures of Rain involved in guro. It's just tainted everything about how I see them, to a subconcious level.

But Sergals and Kaisura are virtually nothing like each other? o.O

Echoen dear, I have gone on tangents in my stream chat room about people who say that kaisura are Senegal lookalikes, wannabes and likeliness and such, explaining countless times the differences between the two. I've even made a submission added to FA last month with visible reference between the two, with the added fictional explanation of the two, barring going down to a deep anatomical and biological tear down. Trancy Mick himself signed on and have it the thumbs up, and its been confirmed that kaisura (present generation) was created years before sergals. And considering that I had some take in creating them, as well as first putting them to canvas, and not withstanding your stature, I'm a little disappointed. :/

As I said, it's subconscious, not conscious. And it sounds like this was a big problem for you long before I came around and mentioned this.

Given all you've done and how you're still dealing with the issue, it likely isn't something that will be solved. There will probably be people that even make Pyramid-Head connections as well, or comparisons to Renamon or Burmecians. Humans connect similar things to each other, and if we've been traumatized (As far as trauma goes, it's probably a 1 on a scale to 10, but it's still there) then when we see anything that reminds us of that trauma then that's what pops into our heads. It's our problem, not yours.

If I spent considerable time with someone who had a Kaisura character, my subconscious would probably adjust and I'd never think of Sergals again when I see a Kaisura. But since I can't visualize off the top of my head exactly what a Kaisura looks like without blending Sergal imagery, the mental connection will continue.

I'm sorry to disappoint you.

If I were you, I would release Kaisura species to public domain because then nobody could steal it or make it without permission. Problem solved.

If you were me, you'd have spent numerous years working on the different iterations of the Kaisura design, not to mention the background material and fiction. I rather doubt you would consider it "problem solved" then, either.

Actually I would consider it as problem solved because my philosophy on species is that they're meant to be public domain so the creativity can bloom freely. Notice also that Kaisura can be a lot more popular if it were public domain.

So, by your philosophy, if you are sitting on a fount of wealth, that you give handouts to select people who hold some form of value to you, you should have no issue giving handing out that wealth to every Tom, Dick and Harry because money is meant to be public domain and wealth is something that should be able to bloom freely.

Amirite?

Money and species are two different things.

And yet, it's the same principle, is it not?

There's a fine line between where creativity ends and destruction begins.

I've gone to great lengths - time and effort both - creating, revising, refining, and polishing the background information, the fiction, Kaisura society, politics, culture, biology, etc. For this detail to exist, there must be constraints - rules - boundaries. There are physical traits a Kaisura cannot have and still be a Kaisura, and so on. When these constraints and guidelines are not respected, the subject starts being degraded and destroyed.

You give people free reign with something they will take it to the stupid zone very quickly, and far beyond before long after that. You can call a Kaisura with four wings and two tails that shoots lightning out its ass "creative" - I call it ridiculous, stupid, and incorrect. I created the species - I define the rules. You don't have to like it. You can call me whatever you like, because of it. But you won't change my stance on it.

The Kaisura are my creation, and I will protect them. I'm willing to share them, but I do so on my own terms, as is my right as their creator.

As for the issue of popularity? You really have no idea how little I care.

"I've gone to great lengths - time and effort both - creating, revising, refining, and polishing the background information, the fiction, Kaisura society, politics, culture, biology, etc. For this detail to exist, there must be constraints - rules - boundaries. There are physical traits a Kaisura cannot have and still be a Kaisura, and so on. When these constraints and guidelines are not respected, the subject starts being degraded and destroyed."
I understand that.

Btw, I sent you note asking permission to create a Kaisura.

It seems I accidentally removed my status message when I revised my profile information; I'm not currently answering permission requests to make Kaisura at this time.

You're welcome to ask again - if you still wish to - when I open to them again.

i have to say i find the Kaisura to be fascinating, their hierarchy, social structure, everything. i enjoy reading about them, might look into requesting permission for a kaisura (not sure which species yet) when you're open to them again ^^

also don't be too hard on Echoen, i know i was the same way with sergals at first, but i warmed to them after awhile (tho i make sure to stay far away from the ones into guro), i have no idea how he linked Sergals to Kaisura (they don't look similar to me) in his mind, but thats the subconscious for you, think of it like a spoiled little child that does whatever it wants to do no matter what you want

I'm not hard on people who do, actually. I just find it surprising, because even Trancy says they don't look alike...and Fur's done a picture showing just how /un/alike they are. So when people say I'm kind of like "...wuh? o.O"

They're neat creatures. I've occasionally befriended someone who has their own species that they've come up with, sometimes to the point of wanting to make a character of that species as a gesture of friendship to them. But I always ask first. Always. Anything else is rude and uncivil. And you know what the funny thing is?

The answer is ususally no.

I don't blame them one bit. I'll just keep being an insufferable and lovey gryphon for them.

I would potentially be interested in seeing whether I could make a Kaiskari Equus once more information about them is released, due to my affinity to equines in general. But I would not do such without permission.
As it stands, I'm more of a writer than a visual artist anyway and would most likely write about such a character rather than try to draw them and destroy everyone's eyeballs in the process. (My art is bad.. XD)

I don't see how people mix up the Kais races and Sergals. They're nothing alike. I, for one, could never see myself making a Sergal character, even while I have the above sentiment about wishing to explore the possibilities of making a Kais character at some point in time.

I wish to say you did very good on creating these races and they are a lovely sight to behold. The Kaisura, Kaisiri, Kaisroki, and Kaisgarou have all been lovely to behold in your own and Furball's drawings. Their language also makes an odd kind of sense to me. I see similarities here with some Asian languages where certain written symbols can have various meanings depending on their location within a sentence or pronunciation.

I wish to express the hope that the few that "break the rules", so to speak, never get so annoying that they take away the joy of creating these creatures. I would love to see them grow and prosper as they make the transition from your mind to (digital) paper.

as published artist my take on it is exactly as the creator chooses. if i am asked to work a piece of music or art i work it. i also get paid. i release my artbwork to said company (unless it is a proformance) for that company alone to use my art as they see fit whether it is a logo, or an illiteration, a concept, or what ever it might be. i take pride in my work and expect tue rights associated with being an artist for protection of my work. the product of mind, the allocated time, and the practiced skill it takes to make what i make is mine alone. if you steal a work of art whether that is the visual (copying a picture), concept (creation of the mind not restricted to actual skill of making it on a visual realm), or invention (i wont define it) it mskes you a theif. as artists we have a right to make our own pieces. my grandfather had those rights as a jeweler, my mother has those rights as a painter, and my dad has those rights as an inventor and creating concepts and laws for medicine. these laws protect our intellectual property. that is what this falls under. if you do not like it do not bother going to a site.full of art free to look at. go to a pay site full of porn or what ever you need to do. but do not harrass an artist about thier choices.

furthermore i wish to thank this artist for their creations. they took the time to make all this yet willing to show us what they designed. thank you very much.

apologies for the grammar, and terrible typing. this had to be written with my touch screen phone that is finicky, and cracked. as my computer, and good phone are out of service.

After reading this throughly and realizing what I actually did, I can confess to the fact that I was a shithead and I regret what I did truly.
I know it might be too late to say it right now, but... Lathander, I am deeply sorry for the fact that I made it look like I was disrespecting you by not asking.
I know better now.