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Season 3 Finale
12 years ago
Ok, this probably isn't the best thing to be putting as a first journal, but I need to get this out of my system, and I'll probably end up just deleting this later.
This will get fairly rant-like and probably a bit rage-filled. You have been warned.
Alright, so I just saw the MLP FiM Season 3 Finale about half an hour ago and the most prominent thing in my mind afterward was... What the fuck just happened? This episode is more rushed than a dog on a new carpet making retching sounds. This seriously needed to be a two-parter, and promising only 13 episodes kind of shot the animators/writers in the foot. Plot points come and go like mad, and I was just blindly following along trying to find something to grasp onto.
Secondly, a couple of plot holes (Stop that snickering). If the ponies' Cutie-marks changed, shouldn't their special talent as well? And the friends just go along with their talents, despite the fact they're miserable at what their doing. Let's ignore the idea that they forgot their real talents (Because it seemed odd only Twilight could remember they swapped), and just look at that. Yes, I know Cutie-marks are supposed to show what a pony is good at, but I don't believe that they nail them down to that thing only. A pony is supposed to relate to their special talent, that's kind of what the whole CMC business was about: If you just try random things hoping to get your Cutie-mark, your missing the whole point that the cutie-mark is supposed to be about you.
Next, one word: Destiny.
Oh my Celestia, stop using that word. I know a lot of writers like to say their character's future's are predetermined, but I swear this word is dropped more often than expensive vases in comedy movies. (Boy, that was a tortured metaphor)
Now, the biggy, Alicorn Twilight. So, at first I was dubious about the whole thing. The writers making Twilight an Alicorn? Come on, their not that desperate for ideas. When it became apparent that this was definitely going to happen, I tried to remain optimistic, but that's hard to do, as I find when writers turn to "Destiny" and making their main characters really powerful, they've run out of ideas. For this episode alone, sure it seemed fine enough, she wasn't really around long enough to piss anyone off, but the end almost seemed like a show ender. There's still another season to go (possibly more), and I think the writers have painted themselves into a corner on this.
Finally, the singing. Now, this is probably my smallest gripe, but it's still worth mentioning. I'm almost certain there's more singing than spoken dialogue, and while I have nothing against an operatic approach, it needs to be done well. The closest comparison I can make to this episode is an old episode of Arthur (Yeah, remember that show?). While there it was more of a collection of music videos (Jekyll + Hyde, The Cooking Song, When You've Got a Library Card) than a cohesive story, the songs were catchy and even now, years after seeing them I can still remember most of the tunes and titles. As for MLP, I have a hard time remembering the tunes of a song I heard this morning. That's pretty bad.
Ok, let's try and find something positive to say.
I really liked the visuals, some of the animation, like when Twilight goes into the ether (I'm sure that's not what it's called, but whatever) to talk to Celestia, that looked really cool, even if it did depend a little heavily on old episode footage. The idea Pinkie would have flat hair when working on the apple farm also made me smile a little. The magic effects were also nice, the element blasts especially, but good effects don't make up for a crappy story. Going back to the bad, I don't remember laughing at a single joke in the episode, aside from "liquid pride", that made me chuckle.
So there, there's my rant on the latest episode, feel free to tell me what you think, where you disagree, and all that jazz.
This will get fairly rant-like and probably a bit rage-filled. You have been warned.
Alright, so I just saw the MLP FiM Season 3 Finale about half an hour ago and the most prominent thing in my mind afterward was... What the fuck just happened? This episode is more rushed than a dog on a new carpet making retching sounds. This seriously needed to be a two-parter, and promising only 13 episodes kind of shot the animators/writers in the foot. Plot points come and go like mad, and I was just blindly following along trying to find something to grasp onto.
Secondly, a couple of plot holes (Stop that snickering). If the ponies' Cutie-marks changed, shouldn't their special talent as well? And the friends just go along with their talents, despite the fact they're miserable at what their doing. Let's ignore the idea that they forgot their real talents (Because it seemed odd only Twilight could remember they swapped), and just look at that. Yes, I know Cutie-marks are supposed to show what a pony is good at, but I don't believe that they nail them down to that thing only. A pony is supposed to relate to their special talent, that's kind of what the whole CMC business was about: If you just try random things hoping to get your Cutie-mark, your missing the whole point that the cutie-mark is supposed to be about you.
Next, one word: Destiny.
Oh my Celestia, stop using that word. I know a lot of writers like to say their character's future's are predetermined, but I swear this word is dropped more often than expensive vases in comedy movies. (Boy, that was a tortured metaphor)
Now, the biggy, Alicorn Twilight. So, at first I was dubious about the whole thing. The writers making Twilight an Alicorn? Come on, their not that desperate for ideas. When it became apparent that this was definitely going to happen, I tried to remain optimistic, but that's hard to do, as I find when writers turn to "Destiny" and making their main characters really powerful, they've run out of ideas. For this episode alone, sure it seemed fine enough, she wasn't really around long enough to piss anyone off, but the end almost seemed like a show ender. There's still another season to go (possibly more), and I think the writers have painted themselves into a corner on this.
Finally, the singing. Now, this is probably my smallest gripe, but it's still worth mentioning. I'm almost certain there's more singing than spoken dialogue, and while I have nothing against an operatic approach, it needs to be done well. The closest comparison I can make to this episode is an old episode of Arthur (Yeah, remember that show?). While there it was more of a collection of music videos (Jekyll + Hyde, The Cooking Song, When You've Got a Library Card) than a cohesive story, the songs were catchy and even now, years after seeing them I can still remember most of the tunes and titles. As for MLP, I have a hard time remembering the tunes of a song I heard this morning. That's pretty bad.
Ok, let's try and find something positive to say.
I really liked the visuals, some of the animation, like when Twilight goes into the ether (I'm sure that's not what it's called, but whatever) to talk to Celestia, that looked really cool, even if it did depend a little heavily on old episode footage. The idea Pinkie would have flat hair when working on the apple farm also made me smile a little. The magic effects were also nice, the element blasts especially, but good effects don't make up for a crappy story. Going back to the bad, I don't remember laughing at a single joke in the episode, aside from "liquid pride", that made me chuckle.
So there, there's my rant on the latest episode, feel free to tell me what you think, where you disagree, and all that jazz.
Well, not really, but it was still bad.
Vinyl. Scratch.
Ok two words over.
I completely agree with you, The initial problem (The cutie mark mix up) was solved a little over halfway through the episode, even episodes 1-12 weren't THAT bad. (At least in that sense) But it left around 8-9 minutes of this whole destiny bullshit, which was not only bad storytelling and not to mention corny and cliché as hell, but it was just downright BORING. They left half the freaking episode to the whole alicorn nonsense, not even a cheap song to keep you interested, just... Ugh (Maybe there was a song, I don't remember either! Guess it proves your point huh?)
I mean sure, I liked it, but then again, I like MLP, so maybe I was a bit blind by it.
But there's one thing that is really worrying me. We can agree Season 3 was a train wreck... season 4? My god, that god damn train is going to get nuked.
Anyway, Yeah you ranted, but it was very accurate and everything you said was true, no exaggeration , a very intelligent rant.
And I'll say it again because she technically appeared twice...
Vinyl. Scratch.
We all know that the whole Alicorn Twilight deal was not DHX being bad at their jobs. It was Hasbro's idea to incorporate this into the series as product advertising for their product. Larson stated that the whole thing was NOT what they had originally planned, and tried their best to integrate it into the storyline. Obviously, there were problems, but it was a matter of 1) not enough episodes for this season, 2) Hasbro being the nit-picky, corporate people that they are. It was also stated that this poor excuse for a finale was considered part 1 of 3, the other two being the season premier of 4.
I'm not going to tell anyone to "stop whining and enjoy the fact we actually have a season 4 with 26 episodes and not 13 in the making," mostly because we all have our own opinions, and we're entitled to what we think. I WILL say that despite what we've been through, we should be grateful that nothing, I MEAN NOTHING, of MLP:FiM could ever, EVER, be as bad as Series 1-3.5...especially 3.5...*shivers*
We should be grateful that this series still has SOME dignity compared to that. Be that as it may, this season was rather lackluster. I don't think I remember ever having SO MUCH DIFFICULTY actually opening the YT link for the episodes as much as this season has. Other than at the start of season 1, for obvious reasons that everyone here could agree to, I was usually really eager to watch the next episode whenever it came up. This was...admittedly, not the best season so far. Not to mention the shortest. Trying to compress all that into 13 episodes instead of the usual 26 was not the best move. You can only put so much into that amount of airtime, and for a series that heavily relies on semi-deep storytelling, that wasn't enough to go off of.
Again, DHX is not completely to blame for this. Hasbro played a rather big, (or rather big enough,) part in this season's downfall.
Just saying...
I'm not saying your wrong for challenging me, (I'm actually kind of glad someone did)I'm just defending why I said what I said.
Personally, I was just stating what was on my mind. Challenging you was not my goal at the time, but I'm glad to have helped.
Anyway hasbro is forcing the show for sell toys since the end of the season 2 (that is why Laurent Faust don't want watch the show anymore), I think that the final seasons are and will be episodes for sell new toys for that reason I don't expect that they will be good episodes I learned it with the wedding, I'm not trying to say that the end seasons are bad but I think that they are forced for hasbro.
If I blame someone is the hasbro's marketing department, for only think in princesses stuff, with the disney's ideas, to my knowledge, Walt disney (the person, no the company) do princess movies because he liked the fantasy classic fairy tale stories it isn't manly for girls marketing the modern Disney (company) did it something more commercial and a feminine stereotype and hasbro fallow it, for that reason Luna and Celestia are princesses and no queens.
I don't feel that all season 3 was bad, liked some episodes liked the wonderbolts academy, the scootaloo's episode or the babs seed's episode... maybe was a good season for the CMCs and spike, but no for the mane 6 (mainly for rarity).
I'm not upset, to be honest I feel that is and exaggeration think that MLP is ruined for some bad episodes only was a season of 13 episodes and I don't think that all episodes was bad. for me, yes, it was the worse season, but I will wait for season 4.