All I have is an EDC at this point, the BOB is still under construction but the plan is to follow Volwest's guide. Our modifications would be less weapons (Canada doesn't allow guns the same was the US does, although I'm wondering if having a look-alike BB handgun might be an effective bluffing tool if push comes to shove) and more peanut butter. I'm aiming for it to last 72 hours at minimum, although since you don't get to pick the disaster most convenient to you I'd have things that could come in handy for extended periods (ex: rat traps to catch squirrels, cache of medication, extra rolled-up Platypus bottles, etc).

http://lesurvivaliste.blogspot.ca/2.....g-out-bag.html [original website with strange moonspeak]

http://www.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Flesurvivaliste.blogspot.ca%2F2010%2F09%2Fbug-out-bag.html [pidgin English version]

A roll of twine takes up less room than rat traps for squirrel catching: http://huntergathercook.typepad.com.....os_fig_8_8.gif Easy and works fairly efficiently from what I've seen.

I've got at least one soft fold/rollable water storage container in mine, it's a 10 gal container that folds down to the size of a can of spray paint, and when empty weighs next to nothing. Food we can do without for a few weeks, water not so much.

I'm not familiar with Canada's weapon laws, so can't advise with any certainty but the US has concealed carry permits you can apply for, I would assume Canada had open carry/owning permits you can apply for? Better to have something than nothing, and in a survival situation between the three options of shotgun, rifle or handgun I will take the shotgun every time(Small game, large game and EVERYONE knows that noise!)

I don't know about Canadian grocers but there are some prepackaged 'space meal' style indian foods you can get in the international section for about $3 each that last for a long time. We've got about 10 of them in the BOB with our other foodstuffs(Mostly beans, rice, crackers, hard candy(great source of calories on the go), steak sauce(In case of venison), and a few MREs(Civvy MREs not the military ones)). Peanut butter though you're right, is a great source of calories and easy to eat on just about anything. I should really throw a pair of jars into the old BOB.

Do you have experience with trapping, actually? I've been reading up on it briefly and got mixes responses-- from what I gather snaring/deadfall doesn't work as well as the army tutorials claim and I got the rat trap idea from a guy on YT whose logic was "squirrels are stupid and have no idea what these things are anyway". Living in an urban environment we've never been able to test anything out, so it's pretty sink-or-swim for us :\

I didn't know soft containers came in those sizes, I'll look for one. We have a few Platypuses and a pair of jerry cans so far as well as assorted bottled water in our "oh shit box" (less a BOB and more a crate of useful things that hangs out in the bedroom and goes in the car boot during road trips).

Well... the short answer for Canada and guns is... you can't have guns. We basically have three levels of gun ownership; unrestricted (rifles, shotguns, semi-automatic rifles, etc), restricted (handguns mostly), prohibited (fully automatic, SMGs, military assault rifles). The unrestricted permit is obtainable by most people, you do a class with a test. Restricted is the same thing but even more classes and tests and money spent, plus you can't carry it anywhere unless 1) you have business carrying it (ie: you're going to a range, you can't shoot it anywhere else at all) and 2) you've told the police where/when you're transporting it. Prohibited is just forget it for regular people like us. In all cases concealed or open carry is completely illegal for firearms, and in our city there's a bylaw even against knives. Worth mentioning to my fellow Canadians who are curious about guns in Canada: we don't have a barrel length limit on shotguns for unrestricted firearms, provided it's factory-standard and not a mod you did yourself (yay snub-nosed shotguns! <3). Also, the short of shooting home invaders with restricted weapons? Don't do it. Self-defence laws are much harsher on restricted firearms, like a guy has to actively be stabbing your family before it's "okay" to shoot him with a handgun (with a shotgun tho, lol >:3).
tl;dr get hunting guns as handguns have too much red tape, hunting rifles are only for home defence. Better go learn karate or get a combat umbrella if you're worried about being attacked outside of your home (kinda sad, eh?).

Nephis will take over for me on the subject of food and some other BOB stuffs, that's his bag.

Only a little practical experience. My great uncle was a trapper and would take me out all the time to set traps and check them. That deadfall was the best I could find, I can't find the one we used for squirrels- basically really fine wire tied into a little slip knot and stuck upright from the tree limb. You bait the other side of it with peanut butter or whatever, the squirrel goes to get a snack and if he backs up he gets stuck. You can tell you've got one from the ruckus they make. Have to get out there relatively quick because they will gnaw through it if it grabs their body instead of their neck. For the life of me I can't find it. I agree I don't like deadfalls because I've never seen one that worked(We didnt use deadfalls anyways), but snaring seems to be hit-or-miss.

Yeah, you can special order them from different places. I found mine at olley's one day believe it or not lmao, on sale for a scant $25. Tested it when I got home and sealed the seam around the outside with a little extra rubber just to be on the safe side(its kind of flimsy). We've got a 5 gal and 2 1 gal water containers too. Having been on plenty of primitive weeklongs and such it seems a little over the top but for 2 people yeah, water. Can't ever have enough water.

Can't you home defense with rock salt rounds? It doesn't mortally wound them, although it will absolutely disable them. That stuff SUCKS! Also damn wtf Canada :( Its cool you can come down here and play with my guns instead.

Good to know about snares, and it reminds me I should go talk to my friend's dad (who is an honest-to-goodness trapper and once paid Nephis in trout to fix the computer).

And yeah, it's kind of sucky about our gun laws as we lack the freedom to make choices, but for me I'm really only interested in hunting rifles anyway so the no-handguns-on-your-person thing doesn't really blip on my radar all that much. Our streets are generally pretty safe, I would not want to conceal/open carry even if I could. For home defence, I'd have to read up on it but I do think we have something like Castle Law where as long as the exit wound isn't on the bad guy's front like he was fleeing and you shot him anyway, you're allowed to kill home invaders in self-defence. There's also this thing where in terms of the law, it's better to shoot someone dead with hunting rounds than to be caught wounding people with less-lethal/self-defence rounds ("oh, you are a bad man since you loaded your gun especially to shoot other humans!"). This is our less-lethal system, being on the wrong end of a shotgun is universal for "go away now" http://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbvi.....-your-face.jpg


...I think it's really cool that we can talk about this kind of thing without tinfoil hats getting in the way. We had a local prepper friend who we bought heritage seeds, etc with but now all he does is link us to chemtrails, NWO, fluoride in other countries' water (since it's not any over here).

LOL agreed. I have my fair share of tin foil hat nutjob conspirator in me, but thats something to leave at home when talking about actual disaster preparedness.

If you get the chance you should absolutely talk to that trapper. I bet he could help you learn some really cool stuff that you can't find out any other way XD (and then share it!)

That sounds very much the same as in the US, although its' more of an unspoken law "If you're going to shoot someone breaking into your home, shoot them and make sure they're dead.. otherwise they'll sue you and since YOU, THE BAD GUY- CURSE YOU WANTING TO SLEEP SAFELY IN YOUR HOME!- defended yourself, you get to give them a ton of reparations >.>'