Wanted to add, please dont anyone call me right now, I really cant handle it

I can't imagine the anxiety both of you are going through. I hope the advice from the US embassy is good so you two will be able to be together for at least some time. Stay strong dood.

Thats just seriously fucked up. Nice to see they have their priorites right /sarcasm they turn away good people, walk all over the lgbt community too and yet knwon terrorists and criminals who slip through are STILL sitting here in houses paid for by tax payers. If i could do anything about it I'd up and leave, the uk's become such a joke.

My thoughts are with you, deeply sorry to hear this has happened and cant begin to understand how its hurting.

You have the sympathy of me and Drayke, know we don't really talk nower days but no one and I mean no one deserves to be forced apart from the one they love least of all by the fucking immigration... we're here for you if you ever need us...

GIVE. THEM. HELL.
Christ you and Mangusu don't deserve this shit. Make their lives a serious living hell.

Kick up hell, this happened with my brother and his now wife while they were dating so I saw first hand how much it tore my brother up with it happening (she too was coming over from the States). They ended up going the partner visa route but it was only a short stay - it was a lot of fighting to see each other over the years but they finally kicked immigrations ass and are now together.

I know it's hard but please keep on fighting.

-hugs and nuzzles- just be there for him.. and you both are in my prayers... I wish i could be able o do something... U GUYS LET MANGUSU GO!!!! RAWR!!

It will get better love, hold your head up for him and your mate.. I loves chu both!!!

What was the official reason they refused Mangusu?

I feel terrible for you two. That sucks so much, the amount of emotion your showed should prove to these officials you care for each other...all I can say is take the Embassy's advice, and ask the border agency to explain on what grounds they refused entry in first place.

Emotion for a partner isn't a reason for granting admission on a tourist visa :p In fact mentioning you are visiting a partner is very risky, for any country it's best to not ever mention that, certainly for the US it will raise flags as to whether you are entering with the intention of staying (which is prohibited on tourist visas).

Actually now you mention that whenever I gone to US, always say am visiting friends and sightseeing, which is also true.

Omg my blood is boiling just reading this. I can't believe it! I'm like.... jaw on the floor in shock. *GIANT HUG* If either of you need ANYTHING please don't hesitate to ask. I wish I could reach out and hug you. I can say tho that everything is gonna work out alright. This is just a bump in the road. Yea, maybe it is a big bump but you two can pull thru and at the risk of sounding cheesy, love will find a way. I still can't believe what I'm reading tho. This is all sorts of messed up. Gah. Take care kitty, you guys are in my thoughts!

Dashel, I am so very mad right now at reading this that it's unreal. Are you kidding me customs?

I first off hope that mangu is at leadt okay wherever he is. Second, I hope that this solved quick fast and in a hurry for both your sakes. Neither of you should have to wait longer for this after so long and brit customs should be ashamed that the police ended up showing up them by trying to do something About it quickly.

Happened to my sister and her boyfriend at the time. She was going home to Ireland for about a year. Her boyfriend was coming along.immigration sent him back to JFK within hours. I'm so sorry it happened to you and mangusu. I hope it gets resolved quick and you guys can be reunited.

Perhaps he can stay at the US embassy near Heathrow? See if they can get ahold of him. That's American soil...and a big duck you to immigration.

Sadly the US embassy has no power to intervene over right of entry

Damn. Sorry to hear dash. I hope this is resolved quickly and he can come back to the UK soon.

All this over the visa not being a same sex one? I didnt even think they existed, or even mattered. your partner is your partner! no matter what sex.

its sad to think they sent him back when they should of be concentrating on the large number of illegal immigrants that come across our boarders....

Good luck and i hope they let him in on the second visa!

*hugs tightly* I'm so sorry hun...where there is a will there is a way. Dont stop fighting. Love you two <3

Dude, I don't even know what to say. I'm so sorry that happened. Why the hell did they refuse him entry, though? Was it because his planned stay was too long?

Still, though, that's fucking crap. I can't imagine what you two are going through right now... :(

Ok so a little more to the story and an update. Basically, when we were packing I very stupidly told mangy to take all his important documents, so we chucked in a folder with all his stuff. Said folder contained his resume and work/study certificates. Because he had quit his job and moved out before coming to the UK and had work documents with him, they felt that he was intending to stay and work here and was not a visitor on holiday. As someone who watches border patrol all the time I feel very very stupid.

The worst part was that we really did have no intention to work here in the UK. We were playing by the rules and he was barred simply because of a suspicion.

No no, the worse part was how they treated us. Making us wait for 8 hours, not letting us see eachother or talk to eachother. Keeping Mangy locked up in a cell with complete strangers (some guy from uzbekistan) then moving him to crummy accomodation with a tiny bed. The whole experience was a sickening nightmare and it simply didnt need to be with just a little courtesy from the UKBA. I am very disgusted that this is what happens to innocent travellers when the system is so ineffective at catching those who arent guilty, because they know some simple tricks.

Anyway, I've talked to Mangy this morning, and things are going to be ok. We'eve both calmed down and accepted it, we love eachother very much and will try again in a month. Mangy will be staying with his parents for awhile, Im sure he'd love to see some of his freinds when he gets back. He's on a plane already, should get in to Orlando later this afternoon.

I know it's hard to take in but having those documents on him was the killing blow here, no matter what country you go to having anything like that on you is a huge risk as in the eyes of immigration that is a sure sign you are looking for work and as such is grounds for cancelation of the visa. Immigration is very much a cut an dry thing no matter what country you are going to :(.

Really sorry to hear about this though take the solicitors advice and work the systems.

If anything at least you now know for the future :)

They seriously think in this digital age people intending to work illegally would be blatant enough to put their CV in their luggage?

I really do dislike the way immigration treats people like the worst kind of scum on the smallest of suspicion, some people are intending to do illegal things, but that shouldn't give them the right to treat anyone that badly.

To be honest, what they did was right. They were just doing their job and sadly it didn't go in his favor. Its a shame and I hope it hasn't put too much of a downer on things, a few small minor details and he'll be back over here in no time. But at the end of the day, they did their job. The smallest suspicion can mean everything to their decision, no matter how honest and truthful someone is.

I know they do an important job and that everything was done according to law, all I meant was that a little more communication and civility wouldn't have gone amiss, immigrants are people too.

Employment documents will get you turned around when entering any country unfortunately, it's almost impossible to explain away why they were brought on a tourist visit.

That, and combined with recently quitting a job (and leaving his accommodation?), asking to stay the maximum amount of time (this would have triggered the questioning), and visiting a partner would probably all add up to well over the "no" threshold.

Thankyou all for the kind words in this really tough time. Really its amazing to have some wonderful people out there who care about us. Love you all.

Chin up mr :) Its.. heartwarming to hear how you reacted to it all. that's some pretty powerful love right there.

Sometimes... I hate my county, no scratch that I really hate my country's enforcers, jumped up little Hitlers on a power trip.
I'm so sorry about your treatment and hope you both get in, if you ever want to try again.
You get an extra special #Freehugsfriday hug

Have a return flight ticket to show for next time further proving he's not there to try and stay. Going to any country with a one way ticket always throws up red flags with Customs/Immigrations personnel.

Oh we had a return flight ticket.

Sorry to hear that mate :( You can try again so it's only temporary but it sucks.

Not to worry, we'll take good care of him until things get worked out.

Chin up guys <3 He'll be back over here in no time. Just a minor hiccup <3

Dont feel disheartend at least he is ok and nothing serious happened.

Just to add - can people ease up on UKBA bashing?

It's no better/worse than any other western country, and anybody who has watched any of the "fly on the wall" documentaries will know that turning up in the UK/US/Aus/NZ in such circumstances (staying the maximum amount of time, no job, possibly no permanent address back home, bringing employment documentation) will always end up in the person going home.

Also being abusive to the staff does not help one bit :/ I'm surprised you didn't get thrown out of the airport!

Gaz, why you always gotta be so contrary man? And I was actually very polite to the staff at UKBA, the only outburst was when he repetitively called Mangy my "Freind I was sponsoring" and not my boyfreind or partner which he so clearly was. That really got to me, I lost it. Otherwise I was very sensible. And yeah, UKBA were just doing there job, but the way they do there job is wrong, and goes against pretty much everything else this country stands for and does. The UKBA man said himself that Mangy had not commited a crime, he was just refused entry, so why the hell do the treat him like a prisoner? Also "comfortable accomodation" as advised on the UKBA website, it certianly was not.

After the decision to refuse him to stay has been made, I see no reason at all why we had to be separated, or that I couldnt call him.

May I also note, that the rest of the airport staff were not only understanding, but the information manager was sitting there on google with me trying to read through immigration laws and contact solicitors so that we could do something about it.

You should certainly file a complaint if you think anything was contrary to law, their stated rules, or if anyone was rude. It's likely the person will say that referring to him as a "friend" wasn't deliberate though, and it probably wasn't, they aren't stupid enough to risk their job like that!

Also being kept in a secure area is standard practice in every country because obviously the person isn't yet legally entitled to be in the country, and they have no idea what sort of person they are. They should have records of where he was kept - I am surprised he was "locked up" with somebody, are you sure it wasn't just a secure waiting area?

On being allowed to stay with him, I'm sure it has many logistical and security implications. You are probably seeing it just from your personal perspective, but if I was UKBA there is no way I would allow a person refused entry to have some other person staying with them.

Also BTW I'm not trying to be a dick, just trying to look at it from a practical/alternative perspective!

i'm with Gaz on this one, unemployed person with a CV/Resume entering the uk, uk border agency and the american immigrtion agency will confirm if people are recorded as unemployed, although he was not looking for work, it looked really suspicious.

i very nearly got refused access to the USA yesterday, border agencies are picky.

CHHHrist Fucking hell man - i'm so sorry to hear this, how they treated you sounded disgusting and it makes me sick just to read, imagining what you went through sat there all that time.... *Wew*

I'm so sorry to hear about this dude. Unfortunately, all the circumstances were against you, but like you said, Mangusu can re-apply in a month, and at least you will both be ok while you wait.
Chin up dude. I'm sure things will work out in the end

I really want to say I'm sorry for everything that happened. It doesn't change anything but I just hope you feel better soon and your bf and you can be together shortly and enjoy each others company.. <3

Just heard the news, I just wanted to put my wishes on that things are sorted out soon and Mangusu is back with you in no time. My paws are cross for you two. x It's a real shame that honest people always get bad luck while all the bad people in the world get what they want. :( All the best, Shanie.

Sorry to hear both of you have gone through all this. Really, -any- complications at any border are just no fun at all.

I'm not going to try to compare the situation I went through to yours at all, especially since mine managed to work out better, but-

Back in '07 I was visiting a furry friend in England. My trip over had been stressful enough (the 7 pm flight I was supposed to take to catch my 10 pm flight to England got canceled, so I ended up catching an earlier flight at 1 pm, which in turn got diverted to another airport for 3 hours, and I ended up having to run through Newark to make my 10 pm flight). At least I'd slept on the plane, but still, pretty frazzled.

Then I arrive at the border and can't help noticing that the woman I'm talking with only has one arm. I hope to hell I wasn't (obviously) staring, but it's hard to be sure.

She asked to see my return ticket, which I didn't have because I'd traveled via Continental and they'd said "Just print out your boarding pass 24 hours before your return flight!". I had an itinerary which I'll be the first to admit wasn't going to impress anyone, and while I'd known my host for 6 years online, we probably hadn't talked as extensively as we should have about things I should know about him before I had to go through the border.

What probably most screwed me though was that the border guard asked me whether I was planning to get into a relationship with him, and in an attempt to be humorous which I probably wouldn't have done if I'd been at my best, I replied, "Well, I might have relations with him, but..." Sigh.

Without realizing it I'd raised the possibility in her mind that I was looking to get an English boyfriend (not even on my radar) and wouldn't return when I was supposed to. To add insult to injury I'd started a new job 3 months ago, and while I had no intentions of quitting (still there 6 years later!), that's apparently recent enough to be another flag. She specifically asked why I wouldn't be inclined to stay in the UK when I didn't have a lot of ties to the US (say what?).

Thank God I had my host's cellphone number, so she called him and told him she was about 10 seconds from turning me away from the border, and he did some fast talking to convince her that it was in fact just a friendly visit. Then I got lectured on how much more gay tolerant England was than the US and told that I should have just told her I was possibly open to a relationship (nevermind that I wasn't...).

To add insult to injury, my luggage didn't arrive when I did. But the real insult is that on my last day there my friend and I were almost assaulted by a drunken homophobe.

So I'm kind of left in a position where I think how I was treated was a bit crazy, but I also made a couple of mistakes and understand that they're in a position where they really can't take chances. Anyway, all the best to the both of you, and I hope this gets sorted out soon!

My heart goes out to you and Mangusu. I pray that next time, he will be allowed in and you two will spend the happiest moments of your lives together.