anything that requires bidding probably disqualifies my participation based on my cheapness, which is probably in the artist's best interest. I don't like the poses, usually, anyhow.

I know what you mean about the poses, sometimes they seem really forced? Or just outright traced, hahah :I

I tend to like really bland straightforward poses. It seems like the harder somebody tries on the pose the less it suits my interest.

For people who are lacking some imagination when it comes to poses, I think these are good xD

I don't mind them aslong as there a regulatr commissions aswell xD

yeah, for some reason randomly drawing poses is really easy for me but once it becomes "draw this character" I can have a really hard time with it sometimes??? x_x

Yush! If the commissioner has a pose for you already or a super description with examples it is okay too I think :)

definitely, I have had a number of commissioners ask me "can you do something similar to this pose?" and link me a picture, which is always a huge help. c:

yeah, the huge cut in time consumption is the big reason I love them so much too. I never thought about having different tiers of pricing somehow?! That's a really good idea, I'll probably implement that at some time ahahah

Personally I like them. Like you said, what you see is what you get so there are no surprises or revisions and stuff like that. It's easier on the artist since the sketch is already done and it's good for the buyer because they know what they're getting.

I don't usually participate in the auction ones since they can get up there out of my price range, but having an auto-buy or buy-out price is nice too (but may limit the potential of getting paid more). I can't stand people who complain about them as well, it's like dude stop policing what people do with their money : P

The only time when I dislike them is when it's an obvious trace either from anime or real porn (it's uncanny valley, near-perfect human bodies with an animal head stuck on it, so blatant haha).

I feel you on the auction end, sometimes they get really crazy high so it cuts out a lot of people that would be interested '_'
oh my god the traces too... it's so hilarious when they're really perfect human bodies (with wobbly lines, always) and just like a weird horse or dog head pasted on

I like them sometimes but more often then not I see a LOT of adult ones getting spammed continuously mostly from the same people over and over. As long as people don't go overboard I think they're fine but they can quickly wear their welcome with YCHs getting spat out every two days or so.

oh that annoys me when I see the SAME ONES like 20 times on the front page... I've been lucky with mine getting snapped up quickly so I've never bothered reposting, but some people really go overboard with it :1

I am kind of neutral on them, but I do not care for them. From what I have seen, mostly the same people bid on them and if they do not win it is by sly chance another person got it. Especially large ych auctions that have multiple people bid on them, plus if there is sexual content in it.

So it is quite boring and repetitive to be honest.
Half the poses are not bad though, sfw or nfw, because in a normal commission if the commissioner does not have a desired pose, it could turn into a pose that could have been for an auction or future auction if liked.

That's an argue a lot of artists fall back on every time a person dislikes it and has the option to speak their mind.
That's my two cents on this subject haha.

the large ones with a ton of characters... I don't really like them?? I think it's a personal preference but it's totally awkward for me to just randomly be pairing up different people's characters, you know? '_' So mine have always been either a single character or a flat-price for a couple, rather than the "bid here for chara on left, bid here for chara on right" kind of thing.
It definitely can get repetitive for sure hahah

I like them because it helps the commissioner be able to "see" their character there. With how many people tell me, "Oh, you can choice the pose" when they request something, having something already laid out helps a lot. Saves me loads of time and stress worrying over whether they will like it and if I have to change this or that. They know what they are getting, and I have less to fuss over. Works out good on both ends.

When I do them, it's an auction. My start bids are usually $5 with levels of details added the more money is bid. But I have a buyout option that isn't more then it would cost for a commission. I try to keep it fair that way. Plus, I use it as an excuse to get out ideas and style I really want to draw but haven't had time/no one commission for. Though I do my YCHA bi-monthly depending on my workload, with two YCHA going at once. And I always have commission open for the people who want something else.

Now I don't like it when people do nothing but YCHA or there's is just a simple carbon copy of the most basic pin-up pose out there.

I agree, I think it's a lot less stress for both the artist and the commissioner to visualize what the pose is from the beginning. Saves so much time too x_x
The buyout option is a really good idea, especially if it's comparable to a regular commission price. I'm the same as you, too, where I sometimes draw out something I've really wanted to do for a while and turn it into a YCH so I can have fun with it. c:

Sometimes I see the very same basic pose get spammed as a YCH and they just do like 10 of them?? Of the same pose?? For different people?? That was always super super weird to me. ' _'

Yes it dose, my word. I spend at least an hour or two trying to get the pose to look like how it dose in my head. And half the time, the sketch just looks horrible so I have to start over again. And then you have people who are very picky with how their character is posed (which I don't mind), but it can be a nightmare when the pose just doesn't want to come out right. YCHA takes out all that stress. The pose, and for me the background, is already figured out. They just put their character in it, I line and color, and done. They get their picture faster, and I get to work an art obsession out.

Yeah, I personally never liked the auctions that got over $100. I mean, if it's for something equal to that price, that's fine. But when a basic pose with no background reaches $100, when the regular price for such a thing is only like say $40. Seems a bit unnecessary to me. I understand if it's done for like emergencies or fund raisers, that's fine. But just an everything day, I never liked those.

Personally, I dislike any sort of money grab scheme. Which is all something like that is. Doing the least amount of work, spamming it every where and getting as much as they can pump out of it. YCHA should be treated, at least I think, along the same lines of a artist's choice commission. Only difference is, the person buying already know what the pose will be. And has more say in what goes on depending on the artist's terms.

I personally enjoy them. I'm kinda finicky about the poses, so I don't bid often. However, I really love knowing what I'm getting.

The only downside for me is when there's multiple slots and I don't feel the other characters fit mine. It's a not a complete deal breaker for me, though.

yeah, I don't know if I'd ever do one with multiple slots because that's always struck me as kind of... strange. You wouldn't be able to choose who you were partnered with! Maybe for some people that's appealing, but I don't really like it, hahah.

Haha, don't blame you. I've been refraining from bidding on them, unless I have friends/acquaintances who're interested in other slots. For most folks, it probably isn't a thing, but my personal characters tend to have elaborate backstories so some things just aren't "canon" for them.

I'm exactly the same way, all of my characters are at least somewhat fleshed-out, I have an idea of their personal preferences and taste in partners and everything so multiple-slot auctions just don't hold any interest for me.

I like them because it lets me do a pose I want to draw and the client gets to see a general idea of what they are getting. It allows for people who don't have an idea but want art to visualize something.

it's nice to be able to take an idea you've wanted to execute for a while and turn it into a YCH so you can make some money and give someone else a nice product too 'w'

I'm sick of them. I want to be able to choose how I want the picture to look, and most of them don't favor the top, more the bottom. It takes away my creative flexibility.

I can totally see where you're coming from, they do all tend to be very bottom-focused, don't they?? I always prefer to have an equal focus on both participants personally. FA is also a little saturated with them right now.

I think they're good for the artist and customers. Artists tend to get fair pay for their work and customers who might not be as creative/able to decide on a pose themselves for a normal commission know exactly what they're getting. The only real downside/annoyance is that a lot of artists spam the crap out of submissions/journals counting down the closure to the auction.

ahh I get so annoyed with spam journals and reposts about them... maybe once would be ok, but some people seem to do it like 20 times. :I

I like them but I hate when it's an auction. Like the bidding starts at $30 and goes up to like $200 (ive seen some go higher)
I think they'd be alot better if it was "Your character here, buy this spot"
If the artist was really feeling generous (like in a one character YCH) they could just say anyone who wants this its $X, that way no-ones disappointed and the artist still makes a good amount of money

I tend to do that last option! Just "hey, buy this piece and I will customize it and clean it up for you". A flat rate is a little easier for me to handle, where auctions... they're annoying, because you need to start low, but if nobody buys it I'll be doing a lot of work for very little money, but if it goes really high I feel a little guilty. So buyout options are definitely best on auctions, I think.
I've seen some go CRAZY high, too, like... $400 high... on the one hand, I want to say "good for you, if someone's willing to buy it, go for it!" but on the other hand I am totally jealous of people that can pull in that kind of dough. XD

Exaxtly! Then on all the really popular artists pages the same 5 people always have the same bidding war and its like "How the fuck do you have money, I barely made rent this month ._."

I really like them. My only bitch is when they become the only way to get art from the artist. Price wise they can get up there, but i really love the bidding. it can be a lot of fun. I lied, there is another bitch....SNIPING. It's very uncool....

sniping is the worst!! I've seen a lot of people make it so that after the last bid there is automatically a couple of hours added to the auction time, so nobody can snipe at the last second, which is a really good idea.

I like them fine. It's kind of neat to know what you're getting and I don't find anything wrong with the artist making an actual profit (which seems to be the main complaint, how dare they go for more than you can afford!), so I don't have any particular grudge against them.

I can see why it would bother people if someone stopped doing normal commissions at all in any form in favour of YCHs, but it's just supply and demand, and not something to hold against the artist.

yeah, in general when they get crazy high I just think "hey, if you can pull in that kind of money, good for you" (I'm totally jealous, but also, it's cool. Hahah). If it happens with me personally, I sometimes feel guilty if my general commission price for something similar is way lower? But it's probably not something to worry about.

I actually feel ok about people who only do YCHs and cut out other commissions, because I can see how artists who are really busy with other things in life might only want to spend time on a sketch they already liked and decided to sell.

Don't feel guilty! All that means is you're probably undercharging to begin with and there are people who clearly think your work is worth more if they're willing to bid and pay that. And remember, it's out of your control, you never forced anyone to bid. There's nothing to feel bad about!

You're right! My girlfriend keeps telling me things like that too, but it's hard to break out of that mindset, hahah. Thanks!

I like them but when gender locking you block a lot of bidders/ or commissioners when you decide to do them thus making them feel left out ;P

Oh and i tend not to do auctions, specially if it goes up for more than the price is if you were to get a commission but not everyone minds paying more :3 so it's just a me thing hehe

I'm guilty of that, hahah 'w';; I really enjoy drawing girls, so most of the time that's what my YCH pieces are... but in the future I'll definitely think of more gender fluent options, that's something I didn't really think about.

"(since sketching tends to be the hardest part of a commission for me, even though I have a file filled with random poses I've drawn over time...). " I really relate to that and it's why I'm considering offering those later on.

Generally speaking, I'd say I like YCH, either set price or auction, tho I'd probably rather buy a set price than try to win an auction because it's harder to expect how it will go and thus what to budget.

I'd definitely try it out! I was honestly shocked at how much faster they go than my regular commissions, and are fun and easy to work on too since I already have a good idea of the final product.
I find I'm leaning more towards set prices than auctions too. It's less stress and they seem to get taken a lot faster so I can get to work, rather than worrying about people bidding (and sometimes retracting those bids, and having to deal with that). 'w'

I personally dont mind them. I find that at conventions usually there is two types of commissioners to begin with: the folks who have an idea in their mind of something in particular they want drawn...and the folks who just kind of want their character drawn and want to give the artist free reign over what the pose is. For the latter, I find the YCH pictures to be a good match since it usually gives the buyer a chance to get a good idea of what to expect.

I admit though I've never done a YCH and I've never bought/bid on one. But I can certainly see the market for them and don't fault anyone who does. And really I find as long as the person selling and person buying is happy with the result, that's what really matters.

I've never actually checked out the art at a convention, that's really interesting! And I can see how it'd save a lot of time and take the pressure off in such a high-stress situation like a con. 'w'

Indeed! I know a few folks who have the equivalent of YCH poses set up on badges that they keep in reserve under the table since most of the time folks who get badges are not overly specific in the pose. So it saves them a lot of time in that they can just adjust and add the details.

i quite like them. i've been finding that all of mine get snapped up quite quickly too (I only tend to do one at a time, though i don't re-post the pose if it doesn't get taken). i like that the commissioner can see what type of pose their getting and I get to do a pose I want to do.

Mine tend to get snapped up crazy fast, too, which I'm really lucky for hahah. I only do one at a time, too... I actually only seem to do them once every couple of months. 'w'

i've been doing them a bit more frequently as they've been selling and my husband hasn't been getting enough hours so we need the money.

I don't really care much for them myself. I have no disposable income so I can't usually afford auctions. It does make it easier for the artist though, and some commissioners prefer to see the sketch before buying.

I can see the appeal of them, but I generally don't even really care to have my commissions done in crazy poses, and I'm never really specific as it is, so it's never something I think I'll partake in.

I'm actually the same way I think, I love doing them as an artist but I'm not sure I'd buy one since they just don't tend to appeal to me all that much.

Yes. I think they are a good idea financially, and they are good for artists. It's also good for commissioners with more money, especially since they are often fullbodied and fullcolored when bought, the highest tier of 'finish'. I usually opt for either experimental styles, headshots or sketches because it's cheaper and I'm le poor. VuV

I love them, and if people are against auctions, you could always flat sell them. I, personally, don't mind either way. : )

I think flat selling is a little easier for me, since running an auction and having people bid is stressful for me for some reason?? XD hahah.

Yeah, I understand. Auctions can be stressful.

I've bought them at auction before and I think the whole thing is pretty great- and I also am setting up a ych collab auction with a friend at the moment.. I have also sold slot commissions in the past (ych with enough available spots to sell them at a flat price) and those work out well.

that's really interesting! How do you set up a collaboration?? Does one of you line and the other color, or if it's multiple characters do you each do a character? I'm really curious 'w'

With this particular girl I usually do the layout and sketch and she does the final inks and colors, but I am thinking I may steal inks from her this time- I always loved the pictures where both artists collaborate all over the place though, with both doing work at every stage in the process, and I am itchin' to do that sort of thing with a local friend one of these days.

ooh, thanks for the insight. 'w' I'd love to do the simultaneous type of collaboration too - one of my teachers in college was a professional scientific illustrator who had a studio with her husband, who was also a scientific illustrator, and they would collaborate on pretty much everything and just leave the image open on their computer and whoever was around would work on it!! I think that's so cool.

It's not my thing, but I don't mind seeing them.

I like surprises, so I usually commission an artist and give them total artistic freedom haha. Part of the fun to me!

I love those types of commissions, both as an artist and a commissioner 'w' it's so fun to see what people do!

I'd be okay with them if they were in moderation. The issue is that artists who make use of these YCH auctions, generally speaking from my experience, tend to use them to the exclusion of other commission types. The end result is that I see less art from that artist (almost every artist I've watched that does these seems to drastically scale down production), I end up having to compete against random people, and I may end up paying for a service that I could have gotten cheaper via another method. So I end up refusing to bid on any auction, because I refuse to pay more or less what I think the art is worth.

If more auctions were silent instead of latter, that'd make me a whole lot happier.

I rarely see YCHs as anything but auctions, so it baffles me why any consumer would willingly pay more for a product that they have less creative control over. A flat rate YCH is a whole lot more tolerable.

I don't mean for this to sound strange but sincerely, thankyou for your opinion! I really agree with a lot of what you said. Personally I feel more comfortable with flat-price YCH commissions rather than auctions, but I can see the appeal for other artists if they consistently get a high price for them too. I've never considered doing a silent auction but that's a really good idea!

I'm always hesitant to voice this opinion because those auctions are definitely moneymakers for artists. I just don't like their farreaching effects. YCHs don't seem to let the artist evolve; they really just feel like a shortcut. I'd rather let an artist experiment with my commission than take a YCH or presketch from them.

I totally see what you mean for "shortcuts", with certain artists I can see how they sort of promote laziness. They're easier than normal commissions but it's not really stretching your art brain.

I like them. Not really done them myself, and no one has asked me to, but I've considered buying some, but I've actually yet to. (Mostly because one of the following has happened: a pose I wanted was an auction, it was already sold and the artist hadn't removed the picture yet or the artist was offering it for a 'wrong style', ie. I'd like to have a cel-shaded piece but the ych was for a soft shaded piece. (that or I didnt have the money at the time but that goes without saying and isn't really the faul of the prepose))

Since I also like to give the artist a free reign anyway also means I won't be surprised and can choose a character whose personality suits the pose (ie. flirty character in a flirty pose). Though I DO like surprises also, there is nothing quite like having a free reign commission turn out even better than you thought it would turn out.

I don't really care for multiple characters ychs where your character can be paired up with a random person, nor would I ever buy a picture with my character with an artist's character either, simply because I'm just not interested.

that's a good example of why it's good to have different coloring options, which I hadn't really considered before but talked with up in the comments with kasune 'w'. I'll be sure to do that in the future, I think, it's a really good point.

Im a fan(for both buying a selling)

I haven't bought one in a while, but it's nice to know exactly what you're getting(not that i dont like the surprise of regular commissions!)
and, assuming it isnt an auction, most artists do them for cheaper then normal commissions hehe
it kinda sucks when the only way to commission an artist is via YCH auction.. cause that usually drops me right out.

as for selling them... they go pretty fast for me, and let me choose what i want to draw which is great cause i dont get a lot of commissions like that. none of my watchers have complained yet which is cool!

I hear you when artists ONLY do YCH things, it gets really repetitive too. :c A lot of other people mentioned how frustrating that is as well so it seems to be a common thought, hahah.
they go fast for me too, it's so nice! I can just get right to work and have them done quickly, which is the best. *w*

haha, yess
im not going to lie! i do a lot of them, but i would probably cut back on the amount i make if i got more commissions
i can open up for 5 flat coloured slots and only one will get taken, but if i do 5 preposes... they're gone in a few hours haha

I like them. I tend to not be super particular about poses, so sometimes I'll think "Oh, that looks like x" and buy it.

I don't do auctions, though. Continually checking back to see if I've lost it or not is kind of a pain and I usually just go find a different artist if I feel like buying something. That extra step of hassle just makes me say "meh, nm". That probably makes me sound awful.

I'm not a fan of multi-slot ones. The idea of "pairing" someone random stranger's character with mine is just off-putting. But I don't buy porn anyway, so my opinion on that one probably doesn't count for much, lol.

The only thing about YCHs that ever actually annoys me is how many of them seem to be either highly referenced from official anime art or else just outright traced from a photo. That's a no thanks.

I'm the same way with auctions, whether I'm the artist or the one trying to win, I just get kind of antsy, I don't really like the whole process hahah. So I end up not bothering even on things that I would've liked. I feel the same way as you about the multiple slot ones too, I don't really like the idea of my character getting paired with some random other one. 'w'

oh man it's always so easy to tell when they're traced too... especially if the anatomy is PERFECT but the lines are really weird and wobbly, or if they just have an animal head pasted on :I

I like them.
Sometimes I'm bummed because I'll look at the sketch and think it looks really good, than look at their finished work and go "ehhh, the random sketch was much better." But that won't be an issue for you.

I'm pretty good at keeping the feeling of the sketch but I definitely know what you mean, that sucks when that happens :C

I think YCH have their ups and downs, To me the whole point is so that people who lack the founds when commissions open can get some art work for an artist they love..

Problem is people go crazy bidding, many times a YCH goes for twice what a commissioned piece would and that....is just silly to me.

Still over all I like them and think they can be good, but they tend to favor people with much more disposable income.

It does seem to be like, a lot of the time, the YCH auctions seem to go up to crazy prices. '_' A buyout option seems to be a good way to stop that, though in general I'm leaning towards just doing flat prices, it just seems easier in every way tbh.

Yea I can understand that, Whatever yu do my wife and I shall be there ready to pay you!

I'm okay with them only in the circumstance that they're for one single buyer, and even then I vastly prefer my own concepts and scenarios. "Your character here" commissions where slots in the picture are sold to multiple separate buyers make me puke in my mouth a little.

yeah I never like those either... :I it just seems weird to have your character paired up with someone else you can't choose imo.

Simply, I like them because you know what to expect when you see the pose and look at their artwork..you know what the style is going to look like and you can see the pose. I've never gotten one, but I have seen some REALLY good ones done!

I agree! I haven't ever actually gotten one either but they do seem like they tend to turn out nice. 'w'

I like them, because I am horrid with poses. I couldn't think of what I'd want my characters to be doing, and end up leaving it to the artist. But at the same time: I'm poor and I don't really like auctions that often. Plus, a lot of the time they are NSFW and I'm not really into NSFW stuff.

Yeah, poses are often difficult for me, I don't want them to be too boring and generic but I don't really want them to be super crazy either, you know? Hahah.
This comment just gave me a thought, I don't usually like multiple-slot auctions but if it was a SFW, with a ton of characters hanging out on a beach or something, that could be fun 'w'

I think a multi-slot SFW one would be pretty neat! I always wanted to, when I got better, do one in a bar. Like, with a pool table, darts, a few booths with people just chilling and talking, maybe a rowdy bunch of Sports Fans crowded around one tiny TV yelling their heads off. Something fun!

Personally, I really enjoy them. Sometimes, it's hard to come up with poses for both the artist and the commissioner so it's a good way of dealing with that. And I like getting an idea of what it looks like.

The only ones I don't like are couple pictures where they have separate auctions. I don't like those because I'm afraid I'll lose one and then I wouldn't know what to do with the one I won. >_<;

yeah, the multiple-slot ones are weird for me too... since you can't choose who your character ends up with, what if it ends up with somebody totally weird? hahah. 'w'

I just don't like it because I tend to get those types for me and my mate. XD

Though I saw one interesting approach to it. Person has separate auctions unless someone was willing to bid so and so amount, in which case they would get both characters and the auctions combined into one.

I'm perfectly okay with YCH things that are sold at a flat price. It was a concept I was mulling over some time ago. I mean, you tend to do a lot of unrefined sketches when practising. Why not tidy them up a bit and sell them for a cheap price if you don't like them enough to finish them yourself? I'm totally against auction selling, though.

I mean, you're selling a piece where you've take away creative control from the commissioner. I've seen several where the artist stalwartly refuses to change details and that the piece must be a specific species with a specific gender with a specific body type. Why should that ever cost more than a normal commission you sell? As far as I'm concerned, it's pretty dishonest, IMO.

Not even to get into the horrible territory of multiple slot YCH pieces (particularly adult ones). Why would I ever want to pay someone else way over the odds basically for the "privilege" of prostituting my character out to someone I probably don't know at all? I'd only ever do it if I could get all the slots and I'm not ever going to do that. I'll just get a similar piece from someone else.

I know what I'm willing to pay, and a lot of that is way too high a price.

I usually have at least a little leeway with gender and body type, it being restricted doesn't both me but I've seen other people complain if it was "girls only" and things like that so I know you're not alone with feeling that way.
The multiple slot ones, the more I think about it the more odd it is, hahah... maybe some people *like* the randomness I guess? I can't imagine it. '_'

I don't have a lot of time for full CG stuff, so I offer them for auction, sometimes preposed, sometimes a full commission slot. I offer regular commissions on the side as well, but not full CGs.

I fucking HATE people who bitch about them thought. Especially when they come on your auction to do so.

I tend to go for nice full coloring when I do them too, it's nice c:

people bitching, man, that's the worst. I see the same thing on adoptables, people feel the need to butt in and be like "WOW I HATE THESE!" that's nice, asshole, they clearly aren't for you then.

Depends on the pose, really. I also prefer flat prices because auctions are stressful. Idon't like those mixes that people do sometimes, where there are two or more slots and you can bid on each separately. At least, not when it comes to adult art. "Here, is my character being f&cked by who knows who!" XD