Stuff like rape and sexual encounters in video games that aren't predominantly based around them are really weird to implement, I think you could do something along the lines of having a morality-based option to go with it you could have rape exist in a more morally-corrupt character who would get bonuses similar to what they express although I don't know if you plan to include the whole trifecta of character/player alignments

I would suggest having the standard stat system for it, but you could play around with extra modifiers (things like intimidation, renown, and other junk that might effect enemy characters actions/reception towards the player character)

To expand further on the sex stuff you could have an even more in-depth system implemented that would link differing sorts of monsters (or tribe or things etc..) that would directly be affected by the actions propagated by your character

The more debauched and generally "bad" things the character does the deeper his alignment goes, and as such would allow him to do more heinous things in combat or just in general to random people; and these actions could play a role in building up renown and intimidation so that certain enemy characters would be less likely to attack or even refuse to fight your character due to their negative reputation.

and on the flip-side if your character is more reserved and all-around "good" he could the benefits of more building trust with monsters (and tribes and things etc..) thus causing them to be less likely to want to fight/ attack and maybe even help them in their quest, and of course you could implement an option for sexual relations through some sort of "trust" stat or something

Just throwing shit out there and seeing if it isn't too goofy or potentially game-breaking in certain ways

I'd prefer no rape option and for it to stick to consentual sex. Perhaps you recruit followers into your party and build relationships with them as they assist you in battle?

Rape:
I would say no, but I think it should depend on the feeling of the game. How dreamy or nightmarish should it be?
Depending on the general feel of the game you could make it optional, together with other options. For example:
Combat option: Fight it out
Social option: Charm/persuade your opponent.

Or alternatively, the looser of combat has to submit to the whims of the victor.

You could put something like Dream/Nightmare points in, making the raiting influence some decisions and the end of the game?

Stats:
That depends a bit on how much loot there will be equipment-wise. And will the stats used only for combat or something else as well.
Also, will there be classes/skills? (Not probably as it looks like a point-and-klick adventure, but I had to ask)

Note:
Personally I would leave Magic out. It tends to make things more complicated or is just a combat tool and there is enought you can do with equipment in that regard.
As this plays out in some dream realm, you could learn some abilities to influence it, some of them combat oriented, some social oriented (maybe something else?)

I know this will make the game more complex to program, but why not plan for several different ways to end the game? So it would allow different ways of style to play. You could either fight, charm, rape, sneak or seduce your way through it?

Yeah, I like the charm/social/persuade thing. Maybe every turn you can do a social "power" that can calm the attacker. Though charming/persuading wildlife should be interesting o_O

I might not do traditional "magic" at all but traits and things that just cling to you and give stats or other quirky things. But most likely no fireball throwing :\ Maybe something to enhance the social/persuade.

dream/nightmare points seems interesting but not sure what I could do with those :D Maybe a resource you gain and then used to alter the realm? :D

btw not planning to make it into a point and click but more of a rpg adventure.

Dream/Nightmare points: If you have Nightmare points, it is easier for you to talk to nightmares(-isch encounters) instead of having to fight them outright. The same with Dream Points and dreams. Of course, if you have more points in on cathegory than the other, Creatures from the side you have fewer points will be more likely to attack and not talk at all.
Maybe you need a certain number of points to even leave the Dream Realm, and/or enter some places? Just an idea.

As for charming wildlife, well, having a piece of food with you could enhance your chance to persuade a wolf not to attack you.
A spritz of 'wolf bitch in heat' might charm a male wolf to mount you and female wolves to ignore you. 'Dominant Wolf # 5' might make male wolves to let you pass and female wolves could offer themselves to you.
Just throwing in ideas. It also depends on haw many types of loot/equipment you want to include.

Makes me think of the Law/Neutral/Chaos system SMT has going.

And many other games.
In this case it should be more about how much of a nice guy/asshole you want to be in the in ci#onversations and such.
I't thinking about decision making as in Mass Effect. Also a little like beings that think alike can talk better with each other. So it's not exactly an aligment thing, even if it can be seen as such.

+Rape, as long as it involves clowns.

Since you're trying to make an RPG system on your own, you might find it easier to lift ideas from early games which were also one-man or small team creations, like Eamon:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eamon.....mputer_game%29

The EamonAG site in the links section has downloads for modern OSes as well as online Java gameplay. The stats system is pretty simple, similar to yours, though it includes a charisma score which is used to decide how a monster reacts to you at first. If I remember right, it was all coded in BASIC, so if you get the original source you can get an idea how it works internally pretty easily.

Given the reaction to this, I don't think rape would be too much of an issue. At least when it comes to horny monster ladies who don't take no for an answer. You could always have it as an option people could enable and disable at will (maybe separate options for player-initiated/male enemies/female enemies).

As for stats, probably better to keep it simple instead of something more akin to SPECIAL. I also had lust and aggression as substats for enemies in my eternally-unfinished game thing. Low in both = friendly interaction/run away, high aggression = attack, high lust = seduce/offer themselves to player, both high = rape.

For comparison, Corruption of Champions has sexual encounters at end of fights if player lost or player won with high enough lust (or teased the enemy to submission). Although the border is really blurred there whether there is consent or not with whole game running on gimmick of sex everywhere and everytime.

I'm going to lean on yes, put in rape but also add a clear disclaimer at the beginning of the game that it will have it.

I'm suggesting that it should take influence from the roguelike genre, I would describe them mostly as difficult perma-death RPGs(Dark Souls, Ivan's Quest, Dwarf Fortress). However, you could pick up high level equipment from the start. I haven't created one yet, but there's a lot of documentation about them online.

so long as it's done tastefully i dont have a problem with it.

Describing rape as okay if done tastefully is killing me, I can't stop laughing.

I'd lean towards no.

Yeah... That was pretty funny, especially as a comment for a porn game :D

If the game has sex as one of its primary attractions, then rape should be in, given fantasy rape is a fetish for some (and assertive/dominant sex is a fetish for others). Though I can't stress this enough : Include the option to toggle rape off. You could keep the game base the same, and just have an adjusted dialogue/graphic set to use when the 'rape' option is turned off, to turn it into just heavy/seductive/assertive sex with an out. Perhaps also an option for "No rape from (male) or (female)" to further coincide with sexual orientations.

Fantasy and fiction doesn't hurt anyone, but allowing such options is a great courtesy to those who get emotionally sucker-punched by such subjects, y'know?

I just wanted to throw in my two cents, what you said actually makes a lot of sense and would be a very pleasant change as well. Thank you for your suggestion

Yup a very good idea. It also helps coding to decide on these things before wading further into code :D I'll do on and off switches for the start of the game so people can decide on these things. Very nice post.

I think this is also a fantastic idea. Having played a lot of questionable porno games, it would be pretty nice.

I have 0 experience into porn games, but make sure to add various kind of toys or animated living sex dolls or servants. Hehe. I recently had a glimpse of some porn game where there was piss and gore. The idea sure did feel odd. If creating a game with piss and gore with the main features seem to worth it, it means there is a very high demand for it and it makes me think that our world is weirder than I expected. About rape, I'm not sure. I have a good feeling that the majority of the furry fandom are doms. Perhaps they would just lose on purpose to get raped. ^'===='^;;

As for system, I think it doesn't matter too much. For a game with obvious erotic content, I think it's best to keep the system and stats relatively simple. 3 stats is probably fine. Just as long as it's transparent, and that it's harder to like, level up wrong or something that would force you to start over. Making the numbers transparent and meaningful, i think, is key. If you have more detail on your system I can give more specific advice.

strength = 7
agility = 8
intelligence = 8
attack = 14
defence = 20
hp = 100
gender = female

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Some stuff from the code :D basically stats for a test enemy.

Strength is converted straight into damage (Strength 7 = damage 7) that can't be blocked by "defence". Attack value is damage increased by the equipped weapon, which is 14 atm.

"Defence" is mostly raised with armor and a bit with weapons.

Agility stat acts as a minimum damage for the "attack" damage which is randomized between the shown value and the minimum (between agility 8 and attack 14). If "agility" exceeds the "attack" value it will always hit max damage.

"Defence" blocks "attack" damage by the shown value. Strength damage cannot be blocked if attack is succesfull.

"Agility" compared to your enemy's agility which gives you succesfull hit percentage, not sure what the math looks like yet but that's the plan :D

So if this enemy was hit with 10 strength damage + 12 attack damage, she would receive 20 hitpoints of damage.

This kind of system (though slightly illogical) will make low level enemies trivial if you find good loot but will keep higher level enemies dangerous a lot longer :D (I think). I was planning not having levels in the game and the progress would mostly be loot and aquired (curses?, powers?, traits?) stuff.

Still working on the intelligence stat stuff :\

Now looking on this I might have to reconsider this spaghetti :D

/puke of text

Pff there's a extra zero on the "defence" so the damage calculation doesn't make sense xD

Just to clarify, agility sets the minimum for damage, but if a character only had agility and equipment, their entire attack could be blocked by defense, right?

It looks balanced to me based on the stats you've shown. I also think there is no problem with doing away entirely with leveling, as long as there is some way to guarantee that most characters are viable to play. Like, if a low agility/high strength character just wiffs constantly and there's no way to raise agility, that's bad, and likewise if a high agility/low strength character just ends up against a wall where he can't damage enemies because of defense, that's not good either if there's no way to correct it as a player. Alternately, if you can mitigate either of those things such that there's no functional difference, then you might as well not have like, a point buy character creation and just have a fixed character that you start as (with balanced stats or w/e.) Really, though, it doesn't seem like low agility would be nearly as viable as low strength.

It seems like equipment would basically to a large degree mitigate a low strength character's disadvantage, but not a low agility character's disadvantage, because as long as there are high attack value weapons, then a character can still mostly deal damage to enemies, and on top of that, if strength never really goes up, then as the monsters scale in HPs, the "free" damage from Str will start to mean less and less. Unless there is a monster that just has such outrageous defense that you could only damage them with strength, but that would be a bad design decision from the other direction (because a low str character would just be totally boned.) If your hit chance never goes up, though, then there is no way to mitigate low agility at all, so it seems like the "better" stat right off the bat.

If the acquired stuff basically can give you stats, then this isn't a problem because you can correct for deficiencies in your character that you learn through play: For instance, if you notice that you're just not hitting enough, you can, as the player, spend resources to bump agility, then it's fine. Or the opposite, where you just aren't really dealing enough damage to enemies and you raise str.

As long as the player can mitigate deficiencies without having to start over from just like, not building the best character to start with, then it's fine and balanced as-is. Or as long as the deficiencies don't make the character nonviable.

If the upgrades you can get don't give you stats, then to a large degree, balance is determined by how much agility matters for hit chance. Like, if it's pokemon-like where it ranges from basically 50-100% or so, I would say it is not nearly as huge a deal as the above would indicate, because you can still run around doing massive damage and the lowest chance to hit isn't GOOD but it also isn't UNREASONABLE. If a difference in agility makes it functionally impossible to hit a monster, then it's sort of untenable to play a low agility character.

And I mean we don't know what intelligence does, so I can't comment on that. :v

Hi again :D

I tested the system I proposed and found it pretty lacking in the areas you described. It would have needed a lot of exceptions for special cases to make the system palatable to play.

So I looked up some more obscure rpg systems and found some more interesting ways to describe a fight. I dumped the hp stat completely and replaced it with wounds that reduce character stats as they accumulate (seems counter intuitive, I know :D). And added distance/grappling system that mitigates high agility character's effectiveness against high strength. There are also unbalanced stat that reduces character agility temporarily after failed action/attack.

The disparity in combat now mainly comes from weapons and armor which I am looking for. There's also a other abilities you can use in combat, like distract, charge, overpower, a move you can after grappling that causes pseudo wounds that are nonlethal, basically wrestling enemy to ground. The wounds disappear if enemy breaks the grappling. The distance system gives small (knife),medium (sword) and long (spear) weapons different areas of use, for example you can't use a spear if enemy is grappling you but a dagger is fully functional and sword gets debuffs but is still usable. The only combat stats weapons get are weight, size and piercing :D

I'll do a proper update about this craziness in a another journal post soonish.

dialogue, map(traveling), stat system, visual system and combat systems are pretty done so far.

Will probably post a scrap pic about art styles I am thinking at some point.

That sounds like an interesting system. Did you playtest it to see how it works in practice? It seems like it would make fights really, really random, because getting hit will reduce your combat effectiveness, you can't really guarantee a win because you're at full health. I mean, it sounds like a really cool idea though. I am interested to see how it works in practice.

Did you take out defense too? I am just curious, because the "unbalanced" thing makes high agility even better.

I would be concerned about the grappling wounds instantly going away when it's broken. It makes it bad from a purely game-based standpoint. If you're dealing me damage that is persistent and makes it harder to deal with you (because they're stat reductions,) and all of my damage has a chance to vanish, your damage is just straight up better. Since wounds are stat reductions anyway, some persistent "damage" from being choked or fatigued or just pain inflicted makes sense. Maybe make it half or something?

The weapon system sounds really cool. I wrote a tabletop game that had similar distance rules for weapons. Making weight a stat makes Str a lot better though, if it just forecloses the agility character from using certain equipment, or reduces the effectiveness.

It sounds really interesting. I am very curious to see how it will play.

Oh, unbalanced makes high agility better because they're less likely to miss in the first place. Somebody who misses is even MORE likely to miss because their agility is reduced, so it punishes low agility more than high.

I kinda vote you take a look at how these guys go about it. http://blog.flexiblesurvival.com/
Given Im sure players will fight harder to avoid scenes you dont want given the option to partake in taking advantage or not. Tho it would be entirely up to the monster (Random rolls for just what it does to you) if you lose just what it intends to do to you once you have lost..

if this going for a flash the best game design is a rpg or zelda like engine or you be going for the Coc design

My two cents:
Encounters (sexual or combat, or really any kind of encounter the player will have) should always serve a purpose. Just having random fights to build your EXP gets really boring, really quickly, so it`s good to make sure that each encounter has something to do with the story, or is a challenge to overcome to get to the next part. With sex, there`s a lot you can do that`s different from "normal" games, so be creative! (Not like that would be a challenge for you! )

What you're describing sounds a bit like Myst, but with monster sex, which sounds exactly like the sort of game I'd love to play! XD

A Night/Dream setting with a Cool World/SMT Vibe and Themes/Worlds that offer diffent locations and places based on that world.
All those points are very good with the story, setting and cast that you have for your game, Draco.
If anything just make it challenging and fun without having too much regret based on it being too easy or heavily unfair based on the battle, situation and satisfaction on how the game is run.
In short, Let me enjoy the game while letting me be surprised and find out some secrets in terms of items, actions, dialogue and art and we're good to go overall.
Im really looking forward to it and yes; have a rape function toggle on/off. Though, personally Im game either way whether their be one or not.
And since you said other dream/monster people can be used for your game have a look at these.
Ref:
1-http://www.furaffinity.net/view/10455207
2-http://www.furaffinity.net/view/9921588/
3-http://www.furaffinity.net/view/9925265/
Thanks for sharing and stay burnin', man.

Man, I would buy 20 copies of this, even if it was free. I can't get enough of your art, especially since you're one of the maybe 2 people that draw female monsters/abominations, which the world desperately needs more of. I can't wait for more info on this.

Hey man; back again, how's everything going with the game so far based on Character, Stats, Game World and Gameplay, Meandraco?

It's going pretty well so far :D thanks for asking!

Anytime, man; just wanted to know what new stuff is going on that we might be looking forward to, Mean.
Though are there any other changes that you think may or may not be implemented based on Stats, Story and Gameplay?
And when's the due date? -XD-
Either way, thanks for responding, dude. Laterz.

If you need music for this, I can help you in that department. :)

Interesting project indeed, I hope progress is doing well.