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22 Creating the perfect NSFW prison.
12 years ago
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I had an idea in the back of my head, for some time now.
But I realized I should totally do the idea! It's a good idea!
Each character of mine, usually has their own story, rather than being part of each others' stories. But, rather than me worrying about coming up with all those stories, I can make a separate crossover universe and just dump any and all characters in. (This is poised to present a whole range of benefits to me, including removing hurdles from the creative process.)
Certainly this crossover theme will be a prison, and there are lot of factors that need to be decided, but it will be fun deciding them.
For one thing, should it be a modern-day prison, or should it be medieval fantasy?
I could even have both, this way characters in medeival/fantasy settings can stick to their own setting.
Medieval/fantasy prison:
One advantage of a medieval fantasy prison, is that it can include modern characters (they'd simply be pulled from their respective region or time period, Inuyasha style) and that would work really well. (who doesn't want to be "whisked away"?) Whereas characters from centuries ago in a modern prison wouldn't really work well imo.
Modern prison (main idea for crossover):
I had an idea for an imprisoned character before, and it was gonna be very good.
The crossover version of the prison may need some differences however.
One question is, how to get all these random female characters in a prison together.
By necessity, they must all be there for the same reason rather than for individual reasons.
It also must be a facility used for that reason. So it is not a prison for criminals.
What I had in mind is some kind of dystopian agenda, similar to Hunger Games or some episode of Star Trek.
The females are drafted or selected to "serve" and their service is humiliation.
It could be a sort of cold war between two nations, and female humiliation is a bargaining chip. (for example, x females for 1 year sentence is is equal to x troops for equal span of time. In this case females stand in for troops, and the troops could even be reduced to 0 using this manner of bargaining.)
Of course, all prisoners are under constant camera surveillance.
Live footage is viewable on the internet. (for the foreign nation, or possibly both nations)
One problem with this idea, is that it means the facility and everyone in it, empathize with the prisoners. This isn't really the ideal atmosphere for captivity; it becomes a pretend prison. :/
A solution is to make the prisoner operated entirely by the foreign party. The downside to this is that a weird racist element is involved. This could simply be solved by making the "enemy" an alien or machine, but in that case it wouldn't be explained why a machine or alien race would be interested in human females.
What I liked about the idea for a standard prison is that the damsels are isolated from the rest of the normal world (not counting webcam) and aren't treated to empathy by anyone including prison staff. For the most part I seek to replicate this atmosphere with the dystopian prison, question is what is the best way to do that? Dystopian non-criminal prison has an advantage though: There could be an exhibitionism element. The prisoners can be paraded out in their "prison garb" (in this case nude) for everyone to see. (for the foreign nation, or possibly both nations) But perhaps this exhibitionism element is not integral to the overall idea.
A simpler idea is simply a corrupt government, but I'm not sure I like the idea. (if I can afford to pass up such simple explanations) Wouldn't I have to come up with elaborate alibis the government can use? Would government bother lying to the parents about it? Wouldn't parents protest the government? Wouldn't this make parents look good?
Having written all this out, (and thanks for reading btw), the cold war explanation I might say seems best, with foreigners being the captors. One idea, is the prison is run by foreigners but also staffing a few natives to serve as mediators/inspectors. The icing on the cake is that the mediators adds extra humiliation element for the girls since it means even more people are looking at them, including people "on their side".
Another variation on the idea is to have the prison be on the border, with caged fence both sides so everyone can see.
The down side of the cold war idea is that the captives think they are serving a duty. It's not entirely humiliation in that case. :x
On the other hand, the cold war idea allows for sheer volume in terms of # of captives. This adds to the feeling of helplessness.
It's all about creating the right atmosphere.
Which version to go with?
edit: I think I will go with cold war version. The main reason is so it can be strictly female only. Also because the secret police explanation might perhaps be "too real" and/or disrespectful.
Another reason is the fact that, using cold war explanation, the opposing party has incentive to irritate the captives. If it was a picnic for the captives, then the gover'ment would sign everyone up for it, or some might even volunteer. This is especially true if the bargaining ratio is locked in at 1 for 1. This means both parties want to milk that value for all it's worth.
But I realized I should totally do the idea! It's a good idea!
Each character of mine, usually has their own story, rather than being part of each others' stories. But, rather than me worrying about coming up with all those stories, I can make a separate crossover universe and just dump any and all characters in. (This is poised to present a whole range of benefits to me, including removing hurdles from the creative process.)
Certainly this crossover theme will be a prison, and there are lot of factors that need to be decided, but it will be fun deciding them.
For one thing, should it be a modern-day prison, or should it be medieval fantasy?
I could even have both, this way characters in medeival/fantasy settings can stick to their own setting.
Medieval/fantasy prison:
One advantage of a medieval fantasy prison, is that it can include modern characters (they'd simply be pulled from their respective region or time period, Inuyasha style) and that would work really well. (who doesn't want to be "whisked away"?) Whereas characters from centuries ago in a modern prison wouldn't really work well imo.
Modern prison (main idea for crossover):
I had an idea for an imprisoned character before, and it was gonna be very good.
The crossover version of the prison may need some differences however.
One question is, how to get all these random female characters in a prison together.
By necessity, they must all be there for the same reason rather than for individual reasons.
It also must be a facility used for that reason. So it is not a prison for criminals.
What I had in mind is some kind of dystopian agenda, similar to Hunger Games or some episode of Star Trek.
The females are drafted or selected to "serve" and their service is humiliation.
It could be a sort of cold war between two nations, and female humiliation is a bargaining chip. (for example, x females for 1 year sentence is is equal to x troops for equal span of time. In this case females stand in for troops, and the troops could even be reduced to 0 using this manner of bargaining.)
Of course, all prisoners are under constant camera surveillance.
Live footage is viewable on the internet. (for the foreign nation, or possibly both nations)
One problem with this idea, is that it means the facility and everyone in it, empathize with the prisoners. This isn't really the ideal atmosphere for captivity; it becomes a pretend prison. :/
A solution is to make the prisoner operated entirely by the foreign party. The downside to this is that a weird racist element is involved. This could simply be solved by making the "enemy" an alien or machine, but in that case it wouldn't be explained why a machine or alien race would be interested in human females.
What I liked about the idea for a standard prison is that the damsels are isolated from the rest of the normal world (not counting webcam) and aren't treated to empathy by anyone including prison staff. For the most part I seek to replicate this atmosphere with the dystopian prison, question is what is the best way to do that? Dystopian non-criminal prison has an advantage though: There could be an exhibitionism element. The prisoners can be paraded out in their "prison garb" (in this case nude) for everyone to see. (for the foreign nation, or possibly both nations) But perhaps this exhibitionism element is not integral to the overall idea.
A simpler idea is simply a corrupt government, but I'm not sure I like the idea. (if I can afford to pass up such simple explanations) Wouldn't I have to come up with elaborate alibis the government can use? Would government bother lying to the parents about it? Wouldn't parents protest the government? Wouldn't this make parents look good?
Having written all this out, (and thanks for reading btw), the cold war explanation I might say seems best, with foreigners being the captors. One idea, is the prison is run by foreigners but also staffing a few natives to serve as mediators/inspectors. The icing on the cake is that the mediators adds extra humiliation element for the girls since it means even more people are looking at them, including people "on their side".
Another variation on the idea is to have the prison be on the border, with caged fence both sides so everyone can see.
The down side of the cold war idea is that the captives think they are serving a duty. It's not entirely humiliation in that case. :x
On the other hand, the cold war idea allows for sheer volume in terms of # of captives. This adds to the feeling of helplessness.
It's all about creating the right atmosphere.
Which version to go with?
edit: I think I will go with cold war version. The main reason is so it can be strictly female only. Also because the secret police explanation might perhaps be "too real" and/or disrespectful.
Another reason is the fact that, using cold war explanation, the opposing party has incentive to irritate the captives. If it was a picnic for the captives, then the gover'ment would sign everyone up for it, or some might even volunteer. This is especially true if the bargaining ratio is locked in at 1 for 1. This means both parties want to milk that value for all it's worth.
- The captives knew they were going to be imprisoned. (since they're not pregnant) So in a sense, they chose it.
- The reason for imprisonment means it will contain only older women. Granted you merely set the bar yourself at age 30, but it's an unintuitive premise since the bare minimum age I can set it to (instead of 30) is the minimum age where it's socially acceptable to get pregnant, and even then government has to give some margin of time to actually find a partner and get pregnant.
Rather than a low population, a high population works in my favor since it means there can be a huge volume of captives but the odds of being selected are very low.
The age thing is a problem though. Perhaps it could also include those protesting the policies?
Certainly, that is /hopefully/ true in an /ideal/ world. But not necessary here.
And what makes this idea unexciting imo isn't just that they chose to go to jail, but the fact they saw it coming for years. (combining the two: they had years to ponder their choice of jail versus pregnancy)
Since you mention the protest thing, that.. is an idea.
Hmm, I kinda like the population shortage aspect now.
The downside however is that it means all characters had to have protested in some manner in order to get there. But it is still doable.
Another issue is the length of imprisonment. Actually, even if you're over 30, you probably weren't gonna be locked up forever, nor were you meant to get impregnated there. If you protested you will probably be set free after a span of time and told not to protest again.
One thing I like is that it's social commentary. :p
And explains why it's women only.
I also like that the crime vaguely relates to their punishment.
I notice you saw "world population". Maybe I could flavor-hance it by saying the world population is fine (or exceedingly high) and the country simply got greedy, and wants to compete with China over fiscal volume.
That way, it doubles as social commentary about trivializing the act of procreation.
You could have it like the witch hunts, where a mere accusation could almost surely condemn you to serve a sentence unless you had good political favour. And given the nature of the punishment, it would still be rare for all but the most vindictive person to level an accusation against you, so it likewise would be unexpected.
I like your expansions on the idea as well.
Or for no reason at all. Because hey it's medieval frikken fantasy. It's rich lords just doing whatever they want.
For modern though I couldn't think of any equivalent of witch hunt.
What about drugs? That is sort of a witch hunt. I was considering drugs as a core explanation for the idea me and Digan were discussing below.
Maybe someone can plant drugs in people's bags at an airport, that way on top of drugs there's the added doozy of smuggling charges. (and maybe posing a danger to other passengers) The drugs things works since you don't need to bribe a court/judge and you don't need to falsify a court session which I have no idea how complicated would be.
Drugs are a good option though, they slipped my mind when I was coming up with examples.
Say, what do you suppose is the length of jailtime for drug possession?
Now what if it's drug possession on an airport?
The story takes place in a building filled with hundreds of women slaves held against their will. They are constantly under supervision and their videos get released to the internet; the public doesn't realize they're slaves and thinks that they are hired porn stars.
I'm up for the modern prison because of the world wide humiliation the girls receive, but I keep finding myself in the shoes of the family that got their mom or daughter taken away. I'm sure they would want to check up on their family members, but they would be forced to watch them through the webcams as they are humiliated. That might be a step too far though, it all depends on where you want to take the story.
For a normal (i.e. criminal) prison, the solution I considered is simply to make broadcasts anonymous. If you wanted to check up on a loved one, you'd have to sift through hundreds of random inmates. Other possible deterrents include 1) paid membership, 2) faces are covered by mosaic (so you'll never really know), and 3) no audio (can't hear their voice). This may not be enough though, so one solution is to limit broadcast to special parties such as government higher ups. Actually, now that I mention it, maybe the broadcast could just be for surveillance and not available on the internet. For the captives, the fact remains they are monitored by cameras, so the psychological effect is the same either way.
I remember reading Firefox a long time ago! For some reason I wasn't reminded of it. What I vaguely remember of Firefox though, at some point to me it resembled a prison less and began to resemble mundane prostitute work. o.o
>Actually, now that I mention it, maybe the broadcast could just be for surveillance and not available on the internet. For the captives, the fact remains they are monitored by cameras, so the psychological effect is the same either way.
I do like that idea.
I think that would be easily explainable, and you have a sound reason for why they're all cute young girls being humiliated. No need to go off into weird and unlikely wargames, etc.
And of course, the cameras are there so the evil perverts can enjoy the sight. They might even sell views for money on the black market.
Motives: Personal pleasure, power, profit.
I was going to say that they'd need an alibi to explain to the family. But I guess they can simply say they girls did something bad and had to be jailed. In which case, this is actually a good setup. (now why didn't I think of it? o.o)
They wouldn't necessarily have to explain - but if they weren't totally evil, they might choose to. They might even release the girls eventually, and give them lots of money. These guys and gals are totally loaded, and they could buy their own planet if they wanted to.
Another possibility is that they might pick up girls who have earned punishment in their own societies - thus acting as subcontractors.
Of course, they would need employees to do most of the dirty work - these insanely rich people aren't going to feed, wash guard and groom their captives personally, unless they're in the mood to do so. Therefore, they would pay others to do these mundane tasks - and who would be a better choice than other, less wealthy, perverts?
There are a whole range of possibilities, but it's all doable if you assume that some people are very rich, a subset of those very rich people are obsessed with a sexual kink, those with a similar obsession get together, and that they find a place where their money enables them to operate without rules - as long as they don't step on the toes of someone more powerful than they are.
In a sci-fi scenario, this pervert club could buy its own uninhabited planet, and set up their kinky prison there. The prisoners could come from anywhere and any time, depending on technology. And the way they deal with the girls and their parents could be up to their whims. Heck, they could even offer voluntary contracts in exchange for extravagant reward. Or anything else.
It's a very flexible scenario, and plausible too.
I guess what I liked is the idea of the girls knowing if and when they will be released, and "hanging in there" until then.
But with this special corrupt prison, they might not be told the reason for imprisonment, so why would they be told the length of sentence?
I suppose I should iron out those specifics.
Certainly, the families would be told the reason and length of time. In that case the families might actually know more than the imprisoned.
But you certainly wouldnt be let off with money. Aside from it being out of character for a rich jackass, it would discredit the purported actual reason for the prison (sentencing criminals), and why you were there. (committing a crime)
An interesting factor, now that you mention it, is the staff. The staff might not even know the prison is corrupt. That actually makes more sense.
But how would they get detained? Would the cops know? The court? Either the girls got set up (but this is not a unlikely setup, its as simple as having just one person be a plant, and placing illegal substances in people's bags) or having the rich guys get the girls in through the "back door" (skipping the court process and maybe even the police).
Somehow I really like the planet idea but I shouldn't get ahead of myself.
The pro to the corrupt rich person idea is that it requires very little explanation. Moving forward I should detail the story in a way that needs as little exposition as possible, with the absolute minimum being them thrown in a jail and protesting that they didn't do anything.
Is that the best way?
These horrible perverts will take prisoners from any or every source.
But the answer is that it depends entirely on the drug, and the country.
Sometimes it's a caution, sometimes it's the death penalty. Seriously, it's completely different depending on where you are.
Just make up a penalty. This is your story - you can do anything you want with it!