How Do You Non-Gender?
12 years ago
General
This may or may not be a touchy subject for everyone so just remember, you can choose not to comment.
I've been attending the local Transgender Support Group meetings because I was thinking perhaps I would find similar folks that don't use gender as part of their identity. I have not encountered any yet and I'm not dismayed or upset about it at all, the people there are all very kind, supportive and understanding(even if my situation of not claiming gender confuses the hell out of some of them). I've just found myself... Almost jealous? These people are either starting to transition, in the middle or already have and they feel genuine and seem pleased. Even though transitioning from one gender to the other is a very difficult and painstaking task, there is still the convenience of knowing what gender is appropriate for them and being able to present themselves as such to the world.
I'm comfortable with not claiming a gender. It is the answer to my deep questions but it makes things oh so very difficult in the real world. Pronouns, looks, names(if you're even concerned with all that). These are things that I struggle with constantly, being addressed as my birth gender, ect. I haven't let it bother me too greatly as I have gotten older but I still wish there were something to further validate my genderless presence in the world.
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So, the question is, are there any surgeries or procedures you would like to have done to yourself to appear more androgynous or without gender? Such as, biological females having top surgery? What do you do at this time to let everyone else know about who you are and how you identify? Do you dress a certain way? Have a special hair cut?
I am biologically female and I was thinking top-surgery would be something that would interest me. Perhaps even removing my internal reproductive organs since I don't wish to procreate(Adoption preference). I don't feel the need to take testosterone or anything since I would not be transitioning to male. However, as appealing as the end result sounds, surgery is incredibly invasive and there's no turning back. I'm not sure if I would ever actually go through with such things unless I was 100% confident in the procedure and I had the money and the emotional support of my family(Which I know I would never get). In the mean time, I have a short, unisex hair cut and wear unisex or male clothing with an obvious female shape and form. I've yet to try binding my breasts but it might be something to explore in the near future.
So, at this time, talk of surgeries for myself are just fantasies playing out in my mind. I am curious to hear what you all have to say about yourselves.
Cheers,
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dracotic
Edit: I just wanted to point out that "genderless", "null-gender", "gender-neutral", ect does not imply that one must modify their body in any way in order to comply or qualify with this form of expression or identity. I really do not do much of any modifications aside from hair and clothes simply because I feel surgery is invasive(as mentioned above). Everyone is different and sees themselves and "genderless" differently.
I've been attending the local Transgender Support Group meetings because I was thinking perhaps I would find similar folks that don't use gender as part of their identity. I have not encountered any yet and I'm not dismayed or upset about it at all, the people there are all very kind, supportive and understanding(even if my situation of not claiming gender confuses the hell out of some of them). I've just found myself... Almost jealous? These people are either starting to transition, in the middle or already have and they feel genuine and seem pleased. Even though transitioning from one gender to the other is a very difficult and painstaking task, there is still the convenience of knowing what gender is appropriate for them and being able to present themselves as such to the world.
I'm comfortable with not claiming a gender. It is the answer to my deep questions but it makes things oh so very difficult in the real world. Pronouns, looks, names(if you're even concerned with all that). These are things that I struggle with constantly, being addressed as my birth gender, ect. I haven't let it bother me too greatly as I have gotten older but I still wish there were something to further validate my genderless presence in the world.
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So, the question is, are there any surgeries or procedures you would like to have done to yourself to appear more androgynous or without gender? Such as, biological females having top surgery? What do you do at this time to let everyone else know about who you are and how you identify? Do you dress a certain way? Have a special hair cut?
I am biologically female and I was thinking top-surgery would be something that would interest me. Perhaps even removing my internal reproductive organs since I don't wish to procreate(Adoption preference). I don't feel the need to take testosterone or anything since I would not be transitioning to male. However, as appealing as the end result sounds, surgery is incredibly invasive and there's no turning back. I'm not sure if I would ever actually go through with such things unless I was 100% confident in the procedure and I had the money and the emotional support of my family(Which I know I would never get). In the mean time, I have a short, unisex hair cut and wear unisex or male clothing with an obvious female shape and form. I've yet to try binding my breasts but it might be something to explore in the near future.
So, at this time, talk of surgeries for myself are just fantasies playing out in my mind. I am curious to hear what you all have to say about yourselves.
Cheers,
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dracoticEdit: I just wanted to point out that "genderless", "null-gender", "gender-neutral", ect does not imply that one must modify their body in any way in order to comply or qualify with this form of expression or identity. I really do not do much of any modifications aside from hair and clothes simply because I feel surgery is invasive(as mentioned above). Everyone is different and sees themselves and "genderless" differently.
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p.s. my apologies if this is offensive, ignorant, selfish, or downright not an adequate nor appropriate answer
And no, there's nothing offensive in your reply, thank you for taking the time to read this and create a good response!
In terms of surgeries, I've at times considered looking into gender nullification surgery (my understanding is that it essentially leaves you flat and smooth down there, with just a little nub for sensation and urination... trying not to be too graphic here!) but I've yet to actually pursue it at all for a number of reasons - the two biggest being that I can't find any information on it besides anecdotes of people who claim to have had it done (no doctors who do it, no post-surgery tales to know what to expect, no photos, etc), and that I feel that something like that is something I need to think about for years and be 110% convicted on before I do anything about it. It does bother me at times, though, knowing that my genitals aren't what I would like them to be... but the bigger bother isn't what they are, but the simple fact that I still haven't figured out exactly what the "right genitals" for me would look like.
As far as pronouns... meh. This is a subject I've never been able to find a solution on. When people ask, or when I'm interacting online and refer to myself in third person, I usually go with "she" because, as I said, I tend toward the more effeminate. "She" isn't accurate, but I've yet to find an alternative that I can stomach.
Looks... look how you want. I don't think there's any rules on how a genderqueer is supposed to look. It's whatever makes you happy.