Should I Delete This Account?
12 years ago
I'm contemplating a major change, as hinted above. It's something that's been on my mind for awhile, and is the reason I've been so absent lately. Not just the last couple of weeks, but for the better part of a year now. The last thing I want to do is further offend my remaining friends and supporters, though, so I figure it's only right that I let you guys have your say in the matter.
I really messed up with the -VST- a year ago. I made a conscious decision to violate my own principle and place a priority (in this case money) over the audience. I disrespected you as fans, as viewers, and as people. Even though this is the first time I can ever recall compromising one of my core moral values in such a deliberate way, it nevertheless doesn't matter. Once is all you need to lose your integrity, and I have justifiably lost all of mine to many of you. I've already apologized for this and I will continue to do so, undoubtedly the rest of my life, but I know I can not ask for forgiveness. What I did was unforgivable as an artist, violating the central unwritten contract of respect between the creator and his audience, and everything I do from here on out should appropriately be tainted by that act.
That knowledge sent me into a depression, first purely out of personal grief from my own conscience, and recently because circumstances revealed this issue is indeed far from over and will likely never be resolved. My productivity has clearly suffered because of this, as has my connection to the community. Most of the time I can barely face the few furry sites and chatrooms I visit, because the shame is so great, and if it were a choice I could make I would leave the community entirely as penalty for my foolish arrogance. But I can't. I have too strong of a connection to it, no matter how badly I've abused it. I still feel the need to contribute, if only now to try to overcome the great deal of harm I've done, but the stress of facing the consequences of this action is often too great for me to properly motivate myself to actually move on.
I tried to move on with Gank. I put a great deal of effort into it, and I tried to make it something everybody could enjoy. A lasting legacy to the community that would offset my other despicable one, but its resounding failure proved that even though I have a lot I still wish to give, there is nothing left I can offer you. You don't want to see anything I make. You don't want to participate in anything I do. You want nothing to do with me. And I can not blame you. I've ruined my reputation and I deserve all the neglect I get, and then some. But that doesn't mean I can take it any longer.
It may be cowardly to make a secret new account. To start over again with a new name, new face, and potential new audience. It's possibly the most cliche of 'furry drama' moves there is, right up there with stealing art or appearing on Tosh.0 to do a furry yiff party sketch. But to me it seems like the only credible option: I can't leave the community, but I can't continue to post art on this account because I've betrayed everybody that follows it and it's now marked with the black paw print of exile. By making a new account, free entirely from relation to my mistake, I can at least continue to participate in the community. At least people will actually look at and comment on my artwork again. If I have to scrub clean my entire identity, deleting all my characters and abandoning all my previous creations, just start over new without the stigma of a traitor it's worth it. I will gladly pay that harsh a penalty just so the community will give me a chance to entertain it once again. To live in anonymity and obscurity, unrecognized by past viewers and even fans, just so that they may in passing look at my work again free of negative context. It's all I want, and it's certainly a privilege I will never abuse again.
I won't do anything that drastic without giving the few of you who have stuck around a chance to speak their minds, though. Let me know what you think about this idea or this situation in the comments below. If you have other suggestions please bring them up. I'll do anything I can to repair my image at this point, but I just don't see how it's possible. And once again, I'm sorry for what I've done. I don't want to be the one that causes drama, but like it or not I am. I've kept it all to myself for the better part of a year now, and it's eaten me up inside. I have the drama in me whether I want it or not, it's in my furry blood, so maybe bloodletting is in order from time to time. I know by nature of me saying this here that none of the people I have irrevocably wronged will respond, that's the nature of being shunned, but any comment from the community at all at this point will help me fix this mess. It will at least help me heal myself and finally move on, whether on this account or elsewhere.
I really messed up with the -VST- a year ago. I made a conscious decision to violate my own principle and place a priority (in this case money) over the audience. I disrespected you as fans, as viewers, and as people. Even though this is the first time I can ever recall compromising one of my core moral values in such a deliberate way, it nevertheless doesn't matter. Once is all you need to lose your integrity, and I have justifiably lost all of mine to many of you. I've already apologized for this and I will continue to do so, undoubtedly the rest of my life, but I know I can not ask for forgiveness. What I did was unforgivable as an artist, violating the central unwritten contract of respect between the creator and his audience, and everything I do from here on out should appropriately be tainted by that act.
That knowledge sent me into a depression, first purely out of personal grief from my own conscience, and recently because circumstances revealed this issue is indeed far from over and will likely never be resolved. My productivity has clearly suffered because of this, as has my connection to the community. Most of the time I can barely face the few furry sites and chatrooms I visit, because the shame is so great, and if it were a choice I could make I would leave the community entirely as penalty for my foolish arrogance. But I can't. I have too strong of a connection to it, no matter how badly I've abused it. I still feel the need to contribute, if only now to try to overcome the great deal of harm I've done, but the stress of facing the consequences of this action is often too great for me to properly motivate myself to actually move on.
I tried to move on with Gank. I put a great deal of effort into it, and I tried to make it something everybody could enjoy. A lasting legacy to the community that would offset my other despicable one, but its resounding failure proved that even though I have a lot I still wish to give, there is nothing left I can offer you. You don't want to see anything I make. You don't want to participate in anything I do. You want nothing to do with me. And I can not blame you. I've ruined my reputation and I deserve all the neglect I get, and then some. But that doesn't mean I can take it any longer.
It may be cowardly to make a secret new account. To start over again with a new name, new face, and potential new audience. It's possibly the most cliche of 'furry drama' moves there is, right up there with stealing art or appearing on Tosh.0 to do a furry yiff party sketch. But to me it seems like the only credible option: I can't leave the community, but I can't continue to post art on this account because I've betrayed everybody that follows it and it's now marked with the black paw print of exile. By making a new account, free entirely from relation to my mistake, I can at least continue to participate in the community. At least people will actually look at and comment on my artwork again. If I have to scrub clean my entire identity, deleting all my characters and abandoning all my previous creations, just start over new without the stigma of a traitor it's worth it. I will gladly pay that harsh a penalty just so the community will give me a chance to entertain it once again. To live in anonymity and obscurity, unrecognized by past viewers and even fans, just so that they may in passing look at my work again free of negative context. It's all I want, and it's certainly a privilege I will never abuse again.
I won't do anything that drastic without giving the few of you who have stuck around a chance to speak their minds, though. Let me know what you think about this idea or this situation in the comments below. If you have other suggestions please bring them up. I'll do anything I can to repair my image at this point, but I just don't see how it's possible. And once again, I'm sorry for what I've done. I don't want to be the one that causes drama, but like it or not I am. I've kept it all to myself for the better part of a year now, and it's eaten me up inside. I have the drama in me whether I want it or not, it's in my furry blood, so maybe bloodletting is in order from time to time. I know by nature of me saying this here that none of the people I have irrevocably wronged will respond, that's the nature of being shunned, but any comment from the community at all at this point will help me fix this mess. It will at least help me heal myself and finally move on, whether on this account or elsewhere.
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That said... I don't think you're quite... shunned? Or a traitor? I could well be speaking only for myself on this but uhh... the hell? For whatever it's worth from someone that hardly interacts with you on a regular basis, you're fine. You have apologized, as you said, you've admitted your mistake(s). I assume you've attempted restitution in whatever manner you and the offended parties require. So where does it enter that, under the furrydom, you're still human, and allowed to make mistakes, and be forgiven over it? I honestly don't think you need to run off and change faces to hide the shame.
This here is not true. You made your mistakes, as you and apparently others see them, and you've done what you can to make amends for them. That's all anyone can and should ask of you, and where it goes from there depends more on them than on you. If a mistake brands you for life, in their eyes, then that's something they should have to live with, but you, as a person, need to move on from that. You can't spend your entire life fretting and apologizing. People make mistakes, and there's no shame in that, as long as you learn from them.
That said, if you feel like creating a new account -is- the only way you can move on, then that's fine. People do it all the time, 'furry drama' or not.
Besides, who could say to never made any mistake in the furdom ? When i first got here i admit to have been a bit of an attention whore, but i changed and people know it, i matured both as person and as artist, and i didn't need to change my account for that, indeed people now appreciate my account and what i do with it.
So in my opinion, even if you did something wrong with this account you shouldn't delete or change it, because what you have done is still a part of you no matter if you're going to get a new name, and with this journal you proven to have learn from your errors and matured an experience that made you a better person and artist, and that's the most important thing.
I wasn't even really aware there was "drama" linked to the -VST- stuff, and the only reason I know that you were sad about Gank was because when you restarted it, each time you mentioned nobody participating. I'm not sure if people were mean or something to you concerning the -VST- thing, but if anybody was insisting you violated some "sacred trust" or something because you put a priority into money (that thing you need to, y'know, trade for things that let you keep living) over what other people wanted, well, fuck those guys. It's pretty immature actually for someone to go "man that guy sold out" or "he cares more about the money than his fans", because in the real world, A) you can care about both, and B) money is required for living not-in-an-alley. Anyone who feels betrayed or something by something like that frankly doesn't really deserve being thought about again.
But, also... y'know inactivity or disinterest doesn't automatically mean hatred or scorn, right? I liked Gank a lot, all the iterations, I love your style and the animations were both fun and of interest to me in a variety of manners, and I thought a sky pirates vore roleplaying game was a neat idea... I just didn't participate because... I dunno, I never clicked on the links to go to the journal? I mean I figured other people would participate I guess, or you'd go on anyway even if you didn't? It wasn't a matter of me hating you for some reasons unknown to me or me feeling betrayed or me not wanting anything to do with you, and I'm sure most other people who didn't end up participating are the same way. Anyone who DID purposefully ignore or hate you and your projects are either long gone by now or... well, gigantic assholes.
Sssso, no? Don't delete this account and make an entirely new one. Even if you end up ignoring all the stuff I said, that I haven't convinced you that people who think you're a jerk for prioritizing money are far bigger jerks, that silence from a project doesn't mean that those quiet people all hate you... well, it'd be pointless to make a new account anyway because your art style's so distinct that everyone would just find you again instantly, resulting in just an erasure of stuff for no real reason.
But yes, I understand. I'm becoming increasingly aware that the problems with Gank were less with my previous errors and more with my current ones. As in Gank frankly failed in and of itself. Which is just as troubling in its own way, but it is nothing I need to compromise the integrity of this account over.
The long answer is that life is hard enough without torturing yourself because you think you deserve it. In prison they say "do your own time." Don't do anyone else's, don't add to your sentence, and look around at the kind of crap furries pull every day. YCH auctions, adoptables, outright begging for money because they spent their rent and car payments on fursuits. You're a great funny guy whose work I enjoyed for a long time, and I was a huge fan and I consider myself extremely lucky to be a good friend.
also the world-eating pizza commission I got from you is still my favorite commission of all time.
And i've never thought ill of you, i think you're a nice guy and always cheerful.
<3
sorry i have not much to say. :<
And besides, what would I do without ya Stankers, you were one of those cool people who were outgoing and nice that helped me get over that whole fear of talking to new people and helped me go from creepy underground lurker to somewhat shy but still creepy Racoon Goat, Baa~
...Unless someone tasty climbs into a clean can, then I might be tempted~ ;9
Goon is much better than 'Raccoat.'
Why I never participated in Gank was that I embarasingly never understood the rules or method of voting, and I didn't wanna make an ass out of myself and mess it up. I enjoyed reading it, and as always I'm way impressed and admire your skills. Was enthusiastic about it even though I didn't speak up about it as I did around the vore tournament. The participation bit was just too abstract for idiot me to get, didn't know if you voted with money and if you just said what they should do then and there... guess I missed out on the rules bit. So made more of a mess out of things by being non supportive.
It's up to you in the end if you wanna make a new account or retire for however long you want... It'd be sad to see you go, but that is all up to you since your feelings is the most important thing here. Just remember to give a goodbye if you decide to.
Your is a name I always look out for in the submissions folder. and I will continue looking forward to it for how ever long is needed.
and from the comments on the journal I know Im not the only one.
If you do decide to retire this account please do include a link to the new one, your fans supported you here and I bet my bottom dollar they will support you there as well
Don't worry, if I ever do go anywhere, I'll find a way to notify those that really care of how and where to find me. I'm not the kind of person to abandon friends.
I don't know what happened exactly with VST but we've spoken a little and you don't seem like that bad of a guy :/
You're a very talented artist and I'm still happy to participate in whatever your doing. So no, I don't think you should leave... and I love your vore comics too ;3;
I call bullshit. Let people like me and everyone commenting here motivate you. Its the people who enjoy you and your work that matter. That's all I'm saying :3
-Sneaky
You need to look in and fix your perception of yourself, first and foremost. Because I've read and reread this journal, and, pardon my presumptuousness, but the real issue seems to be a lack of confidence in yourself after an event that you feel you did a great wrong in. Perhaps it is just my own limited scope, but I've not really seen people making you into a villain or pariah or anything like that. You said yourself that some sites and chats you don't visit because of your own sense of shame. But I have my reservations about whether or not the participants in those places would share nearly so much negativity towards you. But without truly forgiving yourself for what you consider a transgression, can you truly move on from it? My own experiences have indicated 'no', and thus as I said, I think first and foremost you need to work on truly forgiving yourself for what many have already forgiven you for, and far more, based on much of the comments here and my own views, who didn't think you needed to be forgiven in the first place because you did nothing truly wrong.
As for Gank, I don't think the issue is necessarily any sort of blatant neglect. I mean, you have at least one comment here in this journal indicating that despite many of your journals and uploads lately revolving around it, someone still isn't sure what Gank even is. And when I consider how deep into Gank we've gotten... I can't necessarily blame them. Gank hadn't picked up steam yet, and just the sheer size of it would likely mean it'd also take a while -to- pick up steam. It was a grand, sweeping, multi-site adventure following multiple groups...And perhaps that's part of the problem? Perhaps Gank was stretched a bit too thin, with a desire to see results sooner than perhaps reasonable. I can't speak for more than myself in terms of specifics, but I know I'm not a heavily interactive guy. I -want- to help support Gank and vote on it and whatnot, but I got lost rather often. My own desires aren't towards having discussions about the best course of action and what actions to even put up for voting. I know others -are- into that, but when it comes to interactives like this, I'd personally prefer to just be given my options, and pick from them. But with the discussion points and everything also rising up, it wasn't always easy to know which was which, and by the time I figured out "Oh, I could've been voting" sometimes, the voting period had passed. I've also learned that when it comes to these interactive games, what I -want- to see isn't necessarily best for the game itself. Case in point, one of the strongest desires I've had while looking at Gank is to see Nyesha be eaten. That's how my vore-mind is wired. The characters I like, I want to see ingested. Buuuut of course the problem there is that if Nyesha goes in and doesn't come back out intact, well there goes my favorite character. Now I've less investment in the long-run. And so there are indeed times when I will abstain from voting (Even in Humbug's Pred Quest) simply because I don't necessarily want to vote against what I want to see, but I also don't want to cause problems by voting for what is ultimately failure. Of course I realize my own failing in here as well is that I should still have better supported Gank than I did despite myself, to help better get it off the ground.
I hope some level of insight came from this, as I'm sure it's mostly disjointed. But for what it's worth in the end, I don't think you have any reason to run away, hide, or do anything other than press forward as yourself. I really don't think you have anything to be ashamed of right now, as the past is ultimately the past regardless of whether shame should've been felt then or not. And again for what it's worth, I'll try to do a better job of actively supportin' your works, whatever you decide to do. And if you need another sounding board or whatever, y'know where to find me. You already know I don't bite, even if I'm often boring~
Your comments about the problems with Gank are also very enlightening. You brought up a couple of things I hadn't previously been aware of (mainly that the openness of the system may have been TOO open, and that I might have been too selective with the particular vore preferences it catered to). I'll keep all of that in mind for my next projects. In the very least all of this got a lot of people to share with me just what went awry, and that alone makes all my stress worthwhile.
Okay so. Bad wind from VST? I think that'd pass. I think you're being a good bit hard on yourself, though, harder than you need to be. I'm definitely not personally blaming you for the amounts of money that got thrown at it by whatever parties, nor do I think people should. And it's not like you don't need money to survive, and it's not as if you weren't letting people get commissions with that money (unless I'm remembering wrong, and not counting nearer to the end when people were still putting money in despite no commission options). Really, I think you should be thinking about the monetary aspect as a failed experimental element, rather than a huge transgression. It more blew up in your face than you blowing it up in your face.
Gank...? I'm pretty much like Quetza, I guess, just rather guilty of inactivity regarding participation. I really loved the idea, so much so that I wanted to help out with it when you said you were gonna make it a video game, just....yeah, when it came down to it, I'd just be a lazy butt and not get into it. I really do like the characters, honest, and the stuff they could have gotten into. It might have needed some time to get going, too, or some blatant vorish content at the beginning to get more interest to get it going. I dunno. The issue wouldn't be about content, really, just....yeah, lazy asses like me wouldn't have helped with it.
I really don't hear much negative about the VST besides "kind of crazy how many people threw money in", so really, just let it move on, the negative air about it'll fade over time. And your art is still fantastic, I've been watching for it even from before unlurking in the furry community in general, if that's anything. Even outside of the vorish stuff, like, I thought all the stuff you did with clothing was crazy and cool. And even besides that, deleting your whole account and starting up elsewhere....bit of a drastic solution to a temporary ache. Don't cut your hand off cause your finger's sore, something like that.
Anyway! I think at the end of it, you need to just say fuck the haters (real or imagined) and keep making good art. But really, deleting your account won't really change anything in the long run, and is more likely to hurt you in the short run. That's my take anyway!
Probably not though, shit happens, if people can't deal with it then that is their problem.
Long answer: No. You don't have idea of how you change stuff around, even unintentionally. And if anything, everybody is allowed to fall as long as they get up again.
The feeling of guilt is immense? Maybe yes. But in the same way you dont want to forgive yourself, your friends, if they ever were displeased, already forgiven you.
Actually, leaving an account is -as you mentioned- super cliche-ish and more frequently than not, who does it, usually does it without a real reason to do it. I could have left everything when I was depressed thanks to losing the VOCT. I could have left everything when PK told me that my art didnt have heart and that I should stop trying. Yet I didnt do it. As long as you have one person loving what you do, then you shouldn't leave. Doing otherwise talks very bad about you and is also punishing the people that likes what you do, because you'll be taking out what you already exposed and love, even worse considering your attention to detail you put in everything you do. If somebody gives me something, I definitely wont want that person to ask me for the thing he gave me, takes it with him and leaves forever.
Cant you/Dont you want to participate often? That's completely okay. Craig McCracken, by example, posts in his dA onve every several months, if ever. But he didnt delete his account because he cant participate often.
Did I make a series that was a failure? Okay. Everybody is allowed to fail sometimes. The best is aborting the series or give it a finish and start with another idea. That is how we advance, and not through furry, but in everything.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again - part of the reason that there weren't that many people getting behind Gank is there wasn't the emotional draw that comes from using someone's canon character in that world. If Gank were re-run, but with other people's 'sonas like VST, even if there wasn't a direct donation model like with VST, it would have gotten everyone involved to pull in some of their friends, who would in turn ask some of their friends, and a number of those people would see this and say "hey, this is pretty cool", and a legitimate fan following of Gank would stem from that. I don't know what alternative there would be to that, I could see an RPG working out because people will play through RPGs without having to have that initial character bond and could then develop a bond later as many of us have done with our characters of choice over time.
VST...the fact that you worry about what happened with VST puts you far above and beyond many who could have found themselves in the same situation. I constantly gripe about certain artists who pull in funds from people and give far less back than what that money should warrant, as well as other things in the fandom like Your Character Here auctions; I never got a bad feeling from VST, even though the ending didn't turn out like I had hoped.
I mean...I know that it's not as simple as saying "Stank, stop beating yourself up over this." Honestly, I don't know how many people anywhere are having a go at you over this, but they shouldn't be. If there's a drama magnet with anything dealing with VST, it's ME. You should probably be pissed at me, a number of people within VST should be pissed at me. YOU'RE not the one that gained nearly +200 to their blocklist over VST. YOU'RE not the one that was planning revenge art based on a story they didn't even have a character in themselves.
So...shit, I'm sorry that my involvement with VST has turned into, well, this.
VST happened, what's done with it is done, you've learned from it, you know not to do the same things again that would allow such heated flame wars to go down.
There's no need to leave FA or this account over it.
But I will recover, I promise you. Just because you don't deserve to be associated with my disorders. It's unfair to you and I won't let it be a concern of yours a moment longer.
Fucking up in front of everyone is painful and really soul crushing, I know this first hand. Feeling like you are the outcast of your own social circle is something I relate to. Really though... If anyone is going to continue to hold this over your head even though you are clearly sorry for what you have done? Fuck 'em. I look around here, and I see a lot of people who support you, including some of my closest friends. You have a lot more people willing to be your friend right now, no appeasement required.
The rest of it is up to you. Clearly, folks here are gonna support you right now. Just waitin' on you.
Cheers.
That said, I think there's 2 things...
First, you can't beat yourself up too much for being ambitious. It's part of developing, pushing yourself and wanting more. It happens. But you learn your limits, and push them too. You'll know what to do next time, how to do it, and what not to do -- how much needs to be done, and how much is too much to handle. So don't let a single project drag your entire creative pursuit down.
Second, I don't know what all of this VOCT, VIT, VCT, multiverse spanning vore competition stuff is, I've seen more than a few journals from people who appear totally destroyed by participating. I have enough difficulty doing work for a few other people in the fandom, on a case by case basis; trying to network a huge social circle seems fairly impossible.
In then end its forgive and carry on you got swept along in mud slide......it happens......and if you do change accounts I.will watch that one too
Seriously though I understand, and like I told Mewtwo up there I hope you guys that did participate feel no guilt over my issues. If you knew the other things that have sent me into similar states you'd probably... well, not laugh... but wish it were funny so you could laugh.
Well I hope that now you got all this tar off your chest you can heal and carry on.
Although if you were a kiddy pool... I can think of a few people that may find that idea quite appealing.
I don't think you really need to do anything but just keep posting stuff. Doesn't really matter what it is. Additionally, I could instantly recognize the style of the stuff you make, so I don't think a "secret" account would last more than 20 minutes, and the thought of you trying to change your style to be unrecognizable is scary too. Your stuff is great now, don't change.
We all make mistakes--the important thing is that you realize what you've done. Right now is truly the only moment that matters in life because it is the only moment that exists. Regardless of what happened in the past, it's up to you to decide what happens in the future. Your choices now can mend whatever has happened, especially something as impermanent as your reputation.
But it feels like you want to be rejected. It feels like you want the anger of other people to validate your discomfort with the idea of putting other priorities before art. It feels like you want other people to want that kind of purity out of you. Those are wants that I can understand, but I don't see them as being what's actually happened here. A lukewarm response to Gank cannot reasonably be construed as a referendum on your worth as an artist or as a person. As a project it's innovative and different and in a way high-concept... and not every high-concept work gets mass appeal, which you know a whole lot better than I do. Obviously I can't speak for anyone but myself, but to use my feelings as an example anyway, Gank is not, to me, the most interesting work that you've done, and not something that I can see myself participating in-- and that has literally nothing to do with the VST or with anything else that you have done, it's just a consequence of how the structure of that project strikes me. In other words, I am still intensely interested in what you create, and I will continue clicking on every submission or journal you put on this site, and I will still be highly motivated to support your art when opportunities arise that resonate with me, because both your art and your thoughts are of great interest to me.
Stank, I sincerely believe you're taking this much too hard on yourself. If the words you're using were coming from somebody other than you, I'd think they were being melodramatic, but I can't see you doing that, so the fact that you're sincerely using words like 'barely face', 'foolish arrogance', 'great deal of harm', and most worryingly 'rest of my life' leaves me a little stunned. In the VST and other efforts, you've made explicit exactly how they were going to work in advance; there's just no claim anyone can make that you've violated their trust. I have no doubts about the sincerity of your feelings of guilt, but I firmly believe you are projecting those feelings onto an audience that does not share them. Spending time on a project in which art is not the first priority is not a disqualifying event, or even a step backward in your progression as an artist; at worst, it's just a lull, a period during which you weren't developing yourself as an artist. Has there ever existed an artist, even a great artist, who never allowed or experienced even a momentary lull in their development?
I am not suggesting that your feelings are invalid. They come from your conception of yourself as an artist and from what that means to you personally, and they are as valid as any feelings are. But at the same time, I hope you can accept that you aren't obligated to dedicate your every stroke of a pen to the pursuit of Art. And while I do have a personal trust in you as an artist, that is just not a trust that you have in any way violated here. If you've taken actions that you later feel weren't the best actions to take, all that means is that you're human. I don't think there's anything for anybody else to forgive you for, but I hope you're able to be a little more at peace with yourself. I believe that most people here (myself included) are supportive of you, and that's not a thing that you've done anything to change.
I don't know how you can read me so well, but you're absolutely right. On some level I'm aware of how ridiculous I'm being when I get into states like this, but it makes them no less overwhelming or the emotions I'm feeling while in them no less real (at the time). Of course now I regret using such weighted terms, like the ones you reference, but I regret using them because they are embarrassing, not because they were false.
I wish I could explain my moral stance better, since it seems to be an unusual one. But it's so resolute in my mind that I can't imagine ever changing it. All I can say is that, for only a small part of your enlightening response, I disagree. I believe every stroke of the pen should be dedicated to art, and furthermore that artwork (when not under contract) should be made with respect to all viewers. None should be prioritized, and none should be favored. In every human being is the capacity for the totality of all human potential, and if we can not acknowledge it in art then we can not acknowledge it anywhere. I violated that principle, under my personal definition, and it continues to plague me.
But you are right in almost every other regard. Primarily that the only good to be found in a mistake is a correction and the promise of a better future. If I truly want to overcome my flaws I need to accept that I am flawed and work hard to ensure my accomplishments outweigh though deficiencies as much as possible. And with your help I'll now be able to do that.
Even though your mistakes may not have seemed to be the "right" path to you, I believe that so long as you've learned something and can come out of those negative experiences with a healthy outlook, that path was necessary for your development. Just remember that we can't all be on the "right" path all the time. Being perfect simply conflicts with one of the core elements of life: to learn.
But I think I understand your perspective a little better now. I do think you take on a disproportionate level of obligation to your artworld public in a world in which your own physical needs are not presumptively met, but I can understand that those are the ideals you have.
In the same realm, longer animated gifs take commitment to sit through. And your set up (while interesting and unique) was staggered: A post comes up to suggest what to do. Then a post comes up to decide what to do. Then next scene. I thought it was great; but the longer animations, the double work from two channels, the suggest/decide division; it all made it harder to get a large initial/consistent following.
As has been mentioned, the VCT had known characters, and people supporting their friends. That gave it a lot of attention straight away. I really don't think many people are sore about it. I think theoretically if you did another VCT in same way you would still get about the same number of people taking part in it.
And you stop being hard on yourself to. Berating yourself is no way to make another person feel better. Eventually we'll all just end up depressed if it were the case.
The VST I think was probably more successful than Gank due to its format. You've got these very vibrant characters paired off trying to eat each other in a one-on-one duel. They're characters made by other users, so that already gives you eight people with a sure interest, plus all their friends, watchers and entourage. The competitive scenario gives us very clear-cut motivations and objectives, and it gets down to the vore within a couple of pages. There's straight-up action, witty lines and always the tension seeing who'll end up eaten next. The ego of the characters helps ramp up the excitement too. The pride before the fall has been a popular trope in fiction for millenia.
The Gank comic on FA however was a different kettle of fish. The first we heard of it was basically a sky-pirate kind of setting, and such a specific genre can lose people already. It didn't feature any characters already known to the community or drawn from the community. The characters aren't bad, but we don't know them very well, and some people have already expressed in this journal that they'd rather see the characters being eaten. There was no clear antagonist figures that we could love to hate, or even root for if we liked them more. And when it comes right down to it, nothing very vore-based occured during the comic's run.
So really, I don't think that Gank's lack of immediate popularity is the result of some boycott of your work. Different show, different format, and it did not necessarily have the elements that drew the crowd for the VST. Now, I am not saying that means you have to do the same thing over and over to please people. I think you have plenty of creative potential and you can try new things. You have watchers because we do really want to see what you can do. I think removing this account and its content would be a shame, and chances are your watchers would be able to identify your art style fairly quickly if you started a new account anyway.
So, as I have said before, I wish you luck in your future endeavours.
*EXHALE*
firstly, your style is truly original, both in feel, and in look.
I'm not such a fan of long comics, since many times, they can spread a a bit thin... like butter over too much bread.
If you feel like you should go, then that's ultimately your decision. I don't think you will personally, but what do I know.
I mean, you've only been on FA for 5 years, and accumulated 1750 watchers...
also - 95% of people don't like to read, so your journal will most likely be overlooked by a majority of your watchers.
I mean, 45 people have commented on this journal....
I'd throw a speech at you about how people watch you because your a good artist, and they want to see you continue, but I'd be a hypocrite, in that I have virtually stopped doing art.
for several reasons... but that's not the point.
I'll leave on this;
Do YOU want to stop?
there, you have your answer.
Maybe there are some in here...
Thank you though. That helps a great deal.
I haven't been very active in the last year or two so I don't really know what happened, but you do seem to show regret and remorse for your actions which shows allot of character. Leaving and starting new may change how people see you, but it won't change how you see you. Speaking from personal experience I can tell you, putting on a mask wont change whats under it. If you really feel you've done such a disservice to your fans, would bailing on the ones that stuck with you really make things better? If you really want to do something to win back your fans, try and make it up to them. Thank them for sticking with you through everything, or do a raffle, or take some requests or something. Leaving doesn't seem like it would fix anything OR clear your head.
Just my opinion, hope it helps...I'm just gonna slink back into the bushes again...
I get a doggy biscuit now?
best thing ever, im gonna start saying that
Oh wait a second...
Wonder if you have anything that can help me with that.
Why would anyone have to link you to the drama in the VST, anyway? I got irked by some of the goings on in it, myself, and here I am, still just as big an admirer of your work as I always was. |3
Oh, and one of the earlier posts hit the Gank thing on the head. A new concept rather than a familiar one isn't always gonna get a big surge right off. You basically made a pilot episode (hah, 'cause sky pirates) to test the waters (heh). Don't let the lack of immediate pop make you think others are avoiding your stuff because of some silly drama.
I will just say (as someone who's not into vore) I really like your comics , but your black and white stuff is sometimes hard to read or follow in general, but your Colored stuff looks AMAZING.