I'm not voting for Obama. He's recieving money from the Middle-East and refusing to say where it's comeing from. For all anyone knows it could be Talaban.
The upstairs computer doesn't have spell-check and the light behind my lap-top screen is on the fritz so excuse any miss spellings.
The below is copied from one of my father's e-mails. He's researched both sides. Unless someone comes out with something outragious about MiCain Obama's not getting my vote.
These are his findings and responce to seeing some of my friends playing the blame-game on my Yahoo Group.
Hi Kristen,
> >
> > I've read the dialog that you sent me and it's all over the map!
> There is as much wrong information as bad from both sides.
> >
> > If these are supposed to be informed voters, this country will
> continue to get what it deserves. The really difficult part of
> citizenship is sorting through the facts and not just living for
> someone else's sound bite. Both parties are putting out so much
> misinformation you've got to be very careful.
> >
> > Obama was not raised in Hawaii . He spent a lot of time with his
> grandparents in the US Southeast. Then his mother married her second
> husband. Technically, Obama's father was not married to his mother
> since he was legally married first to another woman in Africa .
> >
> > Let's look at some of the information on the Obama side; strictly
> based on facts. Obama attended school in Indonesia for 4 years
> because his stepfather was a Muslim from Indonesia . During this
> time, his step-father had him attending, pretty much, a standard
> public school. He did not attend a radical Muslim school, but all of
> Indonesia is a Muslim nation. So he must have spent time studying the
> Koran and praying in a mosque. To not do so would have been a very
> big problem in that country. Also, this is not a problem. I've
> studied a lot of religions and learned a lot about it over the
> years. I don't spit diatribe on street corners or consider this
> traitorous.
> >
> > The problem is that in order to attend a school in Indonesia at that
> time (as now), you cannot be a citizen of any other country but
> Indonesia . They do not allow dual citizenship students. So, did
> Obama's step-father apply for Indonesian citizenship for Obama and
> denounce (or have Obama denounce) his American citizenship? The law
> is full of technicality; hell, Obama is a lawyer. According to the
> law, if Obama's American citizenship was denounced, no matter what
> happened later, he can no longer be considered to be a natural born
> American citizen, as required by the Constitution.
> >
> > Now comes the other end of this. Obama's sister says he was born
> in one hospital in Hawaii and he claims a different one. Obama's
> grand-mother in Africa claims she was in the room in Africa when Obama
> was born. (I think it would be a major thing to sit in a hospital in
> that part of Africa , watch a white woman give birth, and then get the
> facts wrong). If he was born in Hawaii , why the conflict in facts?
> If he was born in Africa , he cannot be a natural born citizen; rather
> he would be an American citizen through his mother's citizenship.
> That does bring us back to the Constitution and all its little
> technicalities.
> >
> > Here's the real problem: Obama is not doing anything to clarify
> this. Rather than just present the facts, he is working through
> lawyers to dismiss meeting the requirement till after the election.
> Why? What's so hard about proving your citizenship unless there is a
> problem? Why avoid it?
> >
> > Other information. The Iraqis and Iranians are not pals. They do
> not get along "just fine". If you'd like, I can turn you on to some
> real Iraqis and Iranians. Al-Sadr is very much in line with Iran .
> His sect is very much in line with Iran . But don't expect hugs from
> the Kurds and Shiites. After we leave, Iraq is going to be a blood
> bath of power struggles. The basic problem in Iran/Iraq relations is
> very basic. Iraq is an Arab country. Iran is a Persian country.
> They have been fighting for millennium and before there was even a
> Muslim (or Christian or Jewish) religion. Not to mention the numbers
> that died in the most recent war. What has the Iranian citizens
> scratching their head is that their country, right now, is really
> being run by Arabs. Khomeini was not a Persian. Thank Jimmy Carter
> for that. And the Iranian government has a tendency to wipe out
> anyone that gets in their way.
> >
> > The surge is not in Afghanistan ; it's in Iraq . There is a
> proposal of a surge in Afghanistan that Obama is even pushing. So
> don't think for a minute that your friends in the military are all
> going to be taking it easy no matter who wins this election.
> >
> > Yes, I believe McCain is a lot more forth-right with information.
> What passes for "clear and concise" information from Obama is not a
> definite anything. Both candidates talk in bold strokes right now
> and both of them avoid being pinned down. This is an election of
> empty promises. The fact is that either one of them offering you tax
> rebates is just plain crazy and you have to be dense to think it's
> anything but an empty promise.
> >
> > On McCain flip-flopping. Expect a lot of that from both sides.
> Holding rigidly to one set of answers doesn't mean your right; it
> usually means that you can't change your position based upon new and
> better informed sources of information. It means you spent all your
> time telling everyone that someone else's answer has to be wrong, so
> you're painted into a corner politically. Besides, McCain's been
> around long enough that everything he has said on the record (a huge
> database) can be convoluted any way the other side wants. Obama
> appears to have less baggage since he is new to this. He's so new he
> has less real experience than Palin. But no one seems to be noticing
> that. Plus, Obama voted "Present" in over 40% of all the votes he
> participated in while a Senator. Flip-flopping is one thing, not
> being able to commit to anything can be used to make you seem like you
> can make no mistakes, but it should also be seen
> > as making no commitment or coming to a clear decision.
> >
> > The thing that really gets to me is "Change". Every minute of every
> day there is change. Either candidate will create change. Also,
> change does not imply that the change will be good.
> >
> > Greed? From the perspective of the desperately poor, profitability
> of any individuals is greed. Who will be the judge? But seeing an
> individual making hundreds of million of dollars laying off his
> American workers is a sick sign of how our system has developed into
> the mess it's in. However, corporate profit is what makes most jobs
> and benefits possible. The end result of taxing the rich is to get
> the rich to move somewhere else and totally lose their support within
> our system. If you make the big money, taxes in Ireland are a lot
> better. Who will pay for the redistribution of wealth when the
> wealthy leave or retire to their yachts?
> >
> > One of the biggest problems of the real estate market and financial
> collapse is that banks have been granting loans to people who should
> not ever qualify. But if a bank turned down a loan application from a
> person from a minority in the last 15 years, they were under pressure
> immediately and called "biased". This is bigotry from the other side
> of bigotry, but it's institutionalized. Also, we should not be
> bailing out profiteers who buy homes cheap with balloon mortgages and
> then can't flip the house fast enough. Sometimes when you play the
> game; you lose.
> >
> > Whatever happened to being responsible for your own life? Is the
> government going to bail out everyone?
> >
> > Last, immigration seems to have moved under the carpet these days.
> We have laws that are already in place. If you hire illegal aliens,
> you should be in jail.
> >
> > Washington feels bad for the illegals. Try being one in Mexico .
> You'll be in jail so fast your head will spin. A lot of this
> country's medical mess is dispensing free medical support to
> illegals. Send them home. Or, better, jail them and have them
> build a wall in the South and then start one in the North. Possibly
> you can apply for citizenship after the wall is built with your
> labor. But citizenship is not
> owed.
> >
> > I don't think this is a radical discussion. Everyone is just stuck
> in ruts in the road. If you were convinced you were voting McCain or
> Obama, you are probably too entrenched to change no matter what the
facts.
> >
> > The worst thing I can think of is to have a Democratic Senate and
> House and a Democratic President. Washington needs dynamic
> conflict. If either party runs Washington , we're all screwed. No
> matter how either party paints themselves and the opposition; you
> don't seem to understand that THEY ARE THE ENEMY. Neither one has
> some miracle answer to everything that is wrong. Right now I think
> you get better interest from Congress and the Senate if you're an
> illegal alien. THEY ARE NOT THE CONSTITUANCY OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.
> >
> > By the way: while you blame Bush for everything remember this:
> Congress and the Senate can stop any President dead in his tracks.
> What has happened just shows that no one in Washington (including the
> candidates) is working for YOU.
> >
> >
> > WN
Uhm hay this is about voting not bashing the candidates KTHANXBYE.
and if you're gonna do it, use fact not neurotic, fearful, word of mouth from someone somebody knows but you don't who said it just to be spiteful. MmmmmK!?
I've been angry with myself for posting that. I hope that the bashing part was about me. He wasn't the only one researching that information. I was too. He's not bashing anyone and he never meant for it to sound anything like bashing. He was stating his findings and on Obama's side we found a lot more to be critical of.
Personally I don't like him, but I'm not forcing that opinion on anyone and I am still open to new findings and clarification. There are few things that I am dead set on and one of them is not being so thickheaded that my opinions cannot be changed no matter what.
Once again I really am mad at myself for posting that on a friends site. I shouldn't have done that, I appologize, please don't ask for more than that.
I'm already walking a bit and the surgery was just this last. The crutches do the rest. After the right one fully heals they're going to work on the left one.
That is true. My boyfriend and I frequently wonder what kind of stupid idiots would even think of voting for a McCain/Palin ticket, and then we walk down Hollywood Blvd on a Saturday night and overhear the conversations. And then we know who O_o
I love the new icon O3O
PLUS you get free coffee from starbucks and a coupon for a free taco at california tortilla!
Well, that taco sounds pretty good O_o
WHAT, NO STICKER? LAME!
*cries* they lied! school does not set you up for the real world! they don't give you "good job" stickers outside of elementary school!
That's like, the BEST reason to vote!
I think that's most of us O_o
The upstairs computer doesn't have spell-check and the light behind my lap-top screen is on the fritz so excuse any miss spellings.
The below is copied from one of my father's e-mails. He's researched both sides. Unless someone comes out with something outragious about MiCain Obama's not getting my vote.
These are his findings and responce to seeing some of my friends playing the blame-game on my Yahoo Group.
Hi Kristen,
> >
> > I've read the dialog that you sent me and it's all over the map!
> There is as much wrong information as bad from both sides.
> >
> > If these are supposed to be informed voters, this country will
> continue to get what it deserves. The really difficult part of
> citizenship is sorting through the facts and not just living for
> someone else's sound bite. Both parties are putting out so much
> misinformation you've got to be very careful.
> >
> > Obama was not raised in Hawaii . He spent a lot of time with his
> grandparents in the US Southeast. Then his mother married her second
> husband. Technically, Obama's father was not married to his mother
> since he was legally married first to another woman in Africa .
> >
> > Let's look at some of the information on the Obama side; strictly
> based on facts. Obama attended school in Indonesia for 4 years
> because his stepfather was a Muslim from Indonesia . During this
> time, his step-father had him attending, pretty much, a standard
> public school. He did not attend a radical Muslim school, but all of
> Indonesia is a Muslim nation. So he must have spent time studying the
> Koran and praying in a mosque. To not do so would have been a very
> big problem in that country. Also, this is not a problem. I've
> studied a lot of religions and learned a lot about it over the
> years. I don't spit diatribe on street corners or consider this
> traitorous.
> >
> > The problem is that in order to attend a school in Indonesia at that
> time (as now), you cannot be a citizen of any other country but
> Indonesia . They do not allow dual citizenship students. So, did
> Obama's step-father apply for Indonesian citizenship for Obama and
> denounce (or have Obama denounce) his American citizenship? The law
> is full of technicality; hell, Obama is a lawyer. According to the
> law, if Obama's American citizenship was denounced, no matter what
> happened later, he can no longer be considered to be a natural born
> American citizen, as required by the Constitution.
> >
> > Now comes the other end of this. Obama's sister says he was born
> in one hospital in Hawaii and he claims a different one. Obama's
> grand-mother in Africa claims she was in the room in Africa when Obama
> was born. (I think it would be a major thing to sit in a hospital in
> that part of Africa , watch a white woman give birth, and then get the
> facts wrong). If he was born in Hawaii , why the conflict in facts?
> If he was born in Africa , he cannot be a natural born citizen; rather
> he would be an American citizen through his mother's citizenship.
> That does bring us back to the Constitution and all its little
> technicalities.
> >
> > Here's the real problem: Obama is not doing anything to clarify
> this. Rather than just present the facts, he is working through
> lawyers to dismiss meeting the requirement till after the election.
> Why? What's so hard about proving your citizenship unless there is a
> problem? Why avoid it?
> >
> > Other information. The Iraqis and Iranians are not pals. They do
> not get along "just fine". If you'd like, I can turn you on to some
> real Iraqis and Iranians. Al-Sadr is very much in line with Iran .
> His sect is very much in line with Iran . But don't expect hugs from
> the Kurds and Shiites. After we leave, Iraq is going to be a blood
> bath of power struggles. The basic problem in Iran/Iraq relations is
> very basic. Iraq is an Arab country. Iran is a Persian country.
> They have been fighting for millennium and before there was even a
> Muslim (or Christian or Jewish) religion. Not to mention the numbers
> that died in the most recent war. What has the Iranian citizens
> scratching their head is that their country, right now, is really
> being run by Arabs. Khomeini was not a Persian. Thank Jimmy Carter
> for that. And the Iranian government has a tendency to wipe out
> anyone that gets in their way.
> >
> > The surge is not in Afghanistan ; it's in Iraq . There is a
> proposal of a surge in Afghanistan that Obama is even pushing. So
> don't think for a minute that your friends in the military are all
> going to be taking it easy no matter who wins this election.
> >
> > Yes, I believe McCain is a lot more forth-right with information.
> What passes for "clear and concise" information from Obama is not a
> definite anything. Both candidates talk in bold strokes right now
> and both of them avoid being pinned down. This is an election of
> empty promises. The fact is that either one of them offering you tax
> rebates is just plain crazy and you have to be dense to think it's
> anything but an empty promise.
> >
> > On McCain flip-flopping. Expect a lot of that from both sides.
> Holding rigidly to one set of answers doesn't mean your right; it
> usually means that you can't change your position based upon new and
> better informed sources of information. It means you spent all your
> time telling everyone that someone else's answer has to be wrong, so
> you're painted into a corner politically. Besides, McCain's been
> around long enough that everything he has said on the record (a huge
> database) can be convoluted any way the other side wants. Obama
> appears to have less baggage since he is new to this. He's so new he
> has less real experience than Palin. But no one seems to be noticing
> that. Plus, Obama voted "Present" in over 40% of all the votes he
> participated in while a Senator. Flip-flopping is one thing, not
> being able to commit to anything can be used to make you seem like you
> can make no mistakes, but it should also be seen
> > as making no commitment or coming to a clear decision.
> >
> > The thing that really gets to me is "Change". Every minute of every
> day there is change. Either candidate will create change. Also,
> change does not imply that the change will be good.
> >
> > Greed? From the perspective of the desperately poor, profitability
> of any individuals is greed. Who will be the judge? But seeing an
> individual making hundreds of million of dollars laying off his
> American workers is a sick sign of how our system has developed into
> the mess it's in. However, corporate profit is what makes most jobs
> and benefits possible. The end result of taxing the rich is to get
> the rich to move somewhere else and totally lose their support within
> our system. If you make the big money, taxes in Ireland are a lot
> better. Who will pay for the redistribution of wealth when the
> wealthy leave or retire to their yachts?
> >
> > One of the biggest problems of the real estate market and financial
> collapse is that banks have been granting loans to people who should
> not ever qualify. But if a bank turned down a loan application from a
> person from a minority in the last 15 years, they were under pressure
> immediately and called "biased". This is bigotry from the other side
> of bigotry, but it's institutionalized. Also, we should not be
> bailing out profiteers who buy homes cheap with balloon mortgages and
> then can't flip the house fast enough. Sometimes when you play the
> game; you lose.
> >
> > Whatever happened to being responsible for your own life? Is the
> government going to bail out everyone?
> >
> > Last, immigration seems to have moved under the carpet these days.
> We have laws that are already in place. If you hire illegal aliens,
> you should be in jail.
> >
> > Washington feels bad for the illegals. Try being one in Mexico .
> You'll be in jail so fast your head will spin. A lot of this
> country's medical mess is dispensing free medical support to
> illegals. Send them home. Or, better, jail them and have them
> build a wall in the South and then start one in the North. Possibly
> you can apply for citizenship after the wall is built with your
> labor. But citizenship is not
> owed.
> >
> > I don't think this is a radical discussion. Everyone is just stuck
> in ruts in the road. If you were convinced you were voting McCain or
> Obama, you are probably too entrenched to change no matter what the
facts.
> >
> > The worst thing I can think of is to have a Democratic Senate and
> House and a Democratic President. Washington needs dynamic
> conflict. If either party runs Washington , we're all screwed. No
> matter how either party paints themselves and the opposition; you
> don't seem to understand that THEY ARE THE ENEMY. Neither one has
> some miracle answer to everything that is wrong. Right now I think
> you get better interest from Congress and the Senate if you're an
> illegal alien. THEY ARE NOT THE CONSTITUANCY OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.
> >
> > By the way: while you blame Bush for everything remember this:
> Congress and the Senate can stop any President dead in his tracks.
> What has happened just shows that no one in Washington (including the
> candidates) is working for YOU.
> >
> >
> > WN
and if you're gonna do it, use fact not neurotic, fearful, word of mouth from someone somebody knows but you don't who said it just to be spiteful. MmmmmK!?
Personally I don't like him, but I'm not forcing that opinion on anyone and I am still open to new findings and clarification. There are few things that I am dead set on and one of them is not being so thickheaded that my opinions cannot be changed no matter what.
Once again I really am mad at myself for posting that on a friends site. I shouldn't have done that, I appologize, please don't ask for more than that.
I just wasn't thinking.
Anyway, get out and vote!
Bring a chair?
Well actually quite a percentage are stupid x3 I mean you have to be a RETARD not to vote for Obama cause he's Black! -.-'
This is why abortion should always be legal.
bloody incset :P x3
As older as McCain and as slimy as Obama!