There are so many things I want to say.

I'm still busy grinding my teeth about this situation though.

ilubby

ilu2
and yeah.
-puffs-
language barriers are fuckin ridiculous sometimes.

Hey Darkomi, IF I learned anything from the buisness we are doing for my commission? is that your a REAL nice, relaxed, and easy going person to work with! and let me tell ya, I am not mad at you in the slightest. Cause I understand you got a personal life outside FA :3

So, If it helps any you can put my commission on hold for the others so they do not get upset like this said individual is. and I am being dead serious on this suggestion. :3

can I hug you? (Seriously, thank you. I'm not her, but I'm always so grateful to see her customers treat her well)

You may! *opens his arms!* (artist are people too, they are not working machines. Yes money is a touchy subject now a days but if you ask me? Another living person is more valuable then money to me. so I never get mad at artist. If they are unable to complete the pic? then they can keep the commission money with no refunds) :3

*HUGS!*

Seriously, I used to be majorly apprehensive of FA cause I'm not personally a furry and I had all these stigma's about them. But it's commissioners like you, and my friend Anirusfere and a few others on here that dispelled all that and made me -prefer FA with all its downtime and problems- over Deviantart. |8

I just avoid the frontpage >3> XD

its fine, most of my commissioners here on FA are super patient and cool, but i assume its cause they get updates constantly. i post everything here, my DA doesn't have all my commissions on it so nothing happens on it for long periods of time.

Still, it makes me feel better that i can get these 3 things off of my list of things i have to do, you all helped me with my bills, she did not, she wasn't huge on my priority list cause actual money didn't go into getting her commission.
she got a ridiculously cheap commission in POINTS and then became impatient.

:3 thank you tons for being so understanding, but don't worry, i don't need to put anyone on hold, i don't think. <3

Well Alrighty then. Just remember if pressure from others get too much just know I am willing to wait longer for mine to please the other commissioners! ^_^

alright :3 i'll keep it in mind, and i'll try to let you know if i have to<3
but i should be okay
thankes again<3 ;3

Scamming people again.

I thought we talked about this.

Gurl.

>:I

I KNO.
I'M SORRY MY VERMIN LORD.
I have been bad.
i will try very hard not to scam anymore.

DON'T BE ANGRY WITH ME.

Well, I must say....you've been nothing but fantastic, polite and fast with my commissions thus far. You've truly been a pleasure to work with on each and every commission.

granted your pieces were most all same day sketches :D hers was taking much longer to finish.
the characters had a bodytype i'm not familiar with, and jawlines that are really strong and beefy so i was taking my time but.

still, i'm not saying i'm in the right for making her wait.
I just think it's unfair that I'm being labeled a scammer, and my actual words are being twisted quite unfairly.

I don't see how that question was in any way guilt tripping. :I

I don't either.
She's from france though so we had a little bit of a language barrier and I think she misinterpreted something?

I'm not sure.
Either way, I am beyond frustrated with being lumped in with scammers.
I take forever, i give her that. but if she asked me to 'find a way to refund' her? i'd be on that so fast.
I try to give everyone a little bit of updates at a time at least to show them that i've had work done on their piece, that they haven't been forgotten.
She twisted even that!
saying that I threw her the inks like a dog a bone and then took off with no intent to finish.

just.... so frustrated -n-

Trust me, I can relate SO much. I'm a very slow worker as well and I deal with this stuff often. I really don't think you were in the wrong here!

yeah, you can't rush quality art either.
and even if i'm not? I still understand everything that happened.
she clearly doesn't.

I try not to make promises cause i know i get busy.
its why i try not to answer with exact days that i'll have things done, cause it probably won't happen nearly as quickly as either of us would like.
my inspiration just flies around everywhere.

Like I said before....Dark I don't see you as a scammer for as long as I have been commissioning you over the years you do all the work and more. People need to realize that "Real Life" is more important then a piece of art.

You can not hold onto a piece of art, A Piece of art doesn't pay the bills, It doesn't make the money for the bread on your table. People who are not artist need to take in consideration that things do take time and personal "Eat a fat bag of dicks" As for this I wish people would learn to keep something in private and not try to flame someone online it is stupid and out right immature.

If someone has a problem with an artist or someone else online take it to notes there is no need for a flamers journal such as that one "cuz honestly people your making a fucking fool out yourself, most of all when you say Please agree with me and tell me I am not a bitch"

I'm pissed off with this and OMG over 20usd

BITCH PLEASE.

My commissions list is Massive that I am waiting on someone owe me 650usd worth of art and I have been waiting for 2 years, another 60usd 2 years of waiting, and the last 30usd a year. Even if I don't get the art I just posted to said art and left a note here and there.

-Flips a table- It's not a big fucking deal

I wish I could like this.


Admittedly, people like that are balanced out with customers like you and Anirus. He has been insanely patient with me and such a good friend in hand with that. -He- would be justified in yelling about me in that line, but he hasn't not once. And then there are artists like Dark, who get commissioners like that chick and

*throws up hands*
Just. Augh.

Maybe so, but all in all it's still un-needed and to point my list that I am waiting on....20 bucks is nothing I am not getting that 650 back and you don't see me posting a journal on it :/

I think thats a degree of maturity a lot of deviantart lacks >.> to be entirely honest. You dont see me posting on there for a reason.

(And I'll help you get your 650 worth another way! ...after I finish up my worklist for ani ._.)

That's another reason I left the damn site it's more drama then it is worth, I mean you still have your shitty shit shit ass people here lol that's a lot of shit :/

But that is how it is being online I guess. But at least here on fa you do have more people who are understanding of artist. You need money for things food, bills so on and so forth and if you are artist looking for work and at the moment you can only do commissions while you look it can be hard. Cuz if you focus on that commissions list and don't take little things here and there how are you going to eat and pay your bills?

For the fact that artist here are under cutting themselves with their prices to just accommodate their commissions is upsetting to me.

You can get paid 7usd or 12usd working a job such a walmart or whatever and make 300 or so a week if best depending on where you work, while on the other hand the artist is not even beign paid minimum wage for their time and effort on the work they do for others......

So you know what I have to say to that "Bag of Dicks"

-Enormous bag of dicks-

It wasn't so much a 'flame' journal as a 'warning these artists have scammed me in some way' journal.

and yeah, over $20
for 3 sketch pages.
FULLY COLORED mind you.

all of them together woulda cost her $20
ridiculous.

but it was all in points, she wasn't helping me in any way, i know points cost -her- money but she needs to fucking calm down.

Even still she as person should of left it between you and her, there is no need to bring it up to other people who are not in the situation due to everyone will flock to one side regardless. To me it seems more then pointless and immature

yeah, i was definitely upset that everyone only got to read her side of the damn conversation... i was tempted to write a journal up for DA but seriously it is not worth the grief. plus i can be a sarcastic bitch here and everyone can -see- the facts.
AND I'M NOT saying i'm right.
just that i'm upset =T

I know that your upset but you did the right thing by not stooping to her level dude, A ton of people commission you here and everyone can see how much work and effort you place into every piece each one coming out better and lovelier then the last. I say stick to what you know all of yoru friends, customers and myself included will be here right with you to support you fully no matter what.

-nods- yeah i'm not gonna make anymore mistakes, DA points are out, i refuse to do anymore, no one wants to pay what it should cost for them so i'm hanging that up forever.

FA is my home, and i never thought i'd say that, but honestly? I can hardly look at DA and part of it is her fault xD
but now that she's out of the picture and refunded, i don't have to even worry about that shit anymore. i can focus on the important people here helping me when i need it, with funds i can use on more than adopts.
not to say i don't like adopts, cause you bet your ass i do xD

Haha you do love your adoptable dude you do but they are fun to have and work with.
And yea, I agree DA seems more trouble then it is worth I stopped going there a while ago hell I forgot I had an Account till my friend told me to look at my notes. I should probably remove everything from there and close the account down I have no interest in being there and the DA point system does nothing for me.

i doooo
so addicting.
i need to stop though. now i need to work on getting myself art of them xD
i have so many characters. eep.

but yeah, i rarely went back to DA but now i'm only gonna go for adopts if i get bored.
otherwise i'm just gonna put personal humanoid characters up on it.

eyep.

While I understand the frustration for the long wait, you did give an option for a refund and were totally fine with it.

Maybe send her a generic note again letting her know progress of her commission or ask if a refund would be more appropriate at this point for them as they're clearly unhappy?

I've already sent her a refund, minus a few hundred points for the work i've already put into her commission.
I don't have the energy to deal with her being angry and putting words in my mouth when they're clearly typed out in front of her to look over.

I was incredibly polite though.
and yeah, she seemed really angry when i offered the refund though, she doesn't read very well and i've decided it best to just put this all to rest.

I'm not even going to bring it up on DA though, she'll probably just call that passive aggressive too.
I am quite aggressive when i'm upset though, generally i like to keep the peace.
that's all i want, things to go smoothly xD;

I totally understand. I also agree you were super polite, and it's possible the whole issue was a language barrier, but, I know passive aggressive. I am a passive aggressive person, and you were not sounding like that AT ALL.


At least you just gave her the refund and can move on, and hopefully she will as well, and you'll never have to hear from her again! :D

ahhh, that note was pretty old actually, it was in like, August? some time around there, whenever the govt shut down happened.
but i stayed true to being polite with the new note she sent me which wasn't included in the link above.

and yeshhh, i cannah wait to be forever rid of this problem.
not like DA people commission me often anyway but i don't like my name being slandered. |P

WEll I know for a damn well fact Thtat Dark is not a scammer. Dat french girl need a good old american bitch slap for that journal :/

YOU ARE MY FAVORITE PERSON TO COMMISSION BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ARE BEYOND TRUSTWORTHY AND NICE AND <3

THANKEH<3<3
I do really try not to take too long on stuff but sometimes crap happens, yanno?
ya'll get sketch updates ASAP.
i've just started to get my shit more organized, so this'll at least help |D

*gives you lufflehugs for being awesome*

shit happens yo, people don't seem to get it.

I don't normally mind even if they don't :B
its when they shit talk that i get all defensive.

I swear after reading that, my head started pounding like crazy!

*hugs* Im sorry this happened!

tell me about it.
I just got incredibly angry cause of the journal.
honestly expected everything else. XP

I don't blame you! *hugs*
I mean, she should of came at you differently! Instead of pulling that stunt!

But whatever *hugs* she's a loser anyway!

|D -hugs yer head-
ilu.
and yis. -noms on-

ilu2~<3 *nuzzlenuzzle*

Unsatisfied customer asks for update > Artist explains why it's been taking so long, offers refund since customer seems unhappy with purchase or asks for a bit of patience to finish the images.

That's all that happened here.
If a refund is aggressive then fuck i wish the artist that ran off with my $90 was evil.
I mean, at least you replied TOO!

The dark side.. it's...good? xD

this, omg, yes this ;u;

and i know exactly what you mean, i would rather refund people than have them pissed off at me forever and trying to put me up on a hate lists of the internet. just... uggh, i need this business so i do my best to get to everyone, when chaos happens, it happens and i get a little snippy maybe? but that wasn't even what happened xD

its funny cause i just keep thinking of my username when you say darkside Hahaha XD

it is an affront to my very nature :V

I may not know you that well (I blame myself for that X3) But I met you through hedgie and from what little I know of you I know your trust worthy.

So can I drop kick that person for you? :D

NAh that would be stooping to her level :V
xD and thank you, I try to be but you can't actually please everyone and I know that, its just.... blargh.

I don't care how the world sees me thooguh X3

U SKAMMAH!

Whaiuskamsomuch?

-derp-

---

Wuvs ya Darkie :3

ikr.
I HAVE OFFENDED YOU THE MOST GOOD SIR.
LKJCLKJERLSJT
-hugs you with pinkie fingersss-
<3

I'm just curious, because im kinda new to the whole commissioning thing. Why do artists take in so many commissions at once and try to get them all done at the same time? I get that many artists use this method because they actually need to pay bills and put food on the table, but it seems like many, many artists have huge backlogs because they get overwhelmed.

my backlog is mostly because i needed $600 for rent a few months back, and had already closed my commissions so that i could finish them, but without a home that'd be kinda hard to finish my stuff so I took on more than i actually wanted to.

I wasn't expecting the girl in the screen print to commission me a second time for more than the first time and i was already technically closed over here.
I didn't think it'd take me long to do 3 more commissions for her but the characters weren't what i was expecting at all and my motivation all went into paying the bills instead.

We also just got off of EBT help so we have to pay for food out of our own pockets again, so i'll take on quick sketches that i can finish within an hour and a half- 2 hours time so i don't backlog myself further.

I am definitely working on cutting the list down, and my friends who commission me all generally tell me to save them for last (as they're also the ones i generally don't often say 'no i can't squeeze you in' to.
I've gotten really close to getting my queue done though so the backlog should wear down soon.

In the end it is mostly a bad decision to take on more than you can chew, especially if its going to breakk your motivation to work. I haven't lost my motivaation to work at all though, and I try to at least get one piece posted every week. and if not, i get folks their sketches. this whole journal happened because I don't update on DA unless i need to, and this girl heard nothing from a dead gallery for a very long time.
As mentioned before, I completely understand her being upset, and don't blame her at all for that. I'm just angry because of the journal of lies :T

i hope that was helpful at all i kind of went on a tangent there XD i apologize for that, aherp.

Hey, it's cool. I'm personally always waiting to get money so that I can jump on your back and get art from you. \uwu/

haha <3 or so you can wait for slots and lunge at them.

im stil lwaiting patiently, so nuts to that person

haha i think you guys should go beat up leet, i still need his character :/
thanks btw, for being so patient. prolly gonna go ahead n finish what i can on that picture and post it to get him moving xD

im gonna have to upgrade the inflatable mallet to a real one XD

HAHAHA
I've asked him a bunch of times and every time its like, "yeah, oh right, i'll get that in a little bit -dies off the internets-"
OKAY LEET, WAITING.
WAITING.
igiveup. xD

lol i gave him a good one for not doing it we should be good

now i wait for the information... xD