They missed the dicks :V

The dick IS magnificent

Everybody loves the D. Anyone says otherwise, they're liars.

This reaasn was apparently SO REAL, that anybody that didnt agree with them and rage about it, were "Part of the Problem"
And yet, here some of them are, coming back and trying to open more commissions.
Somebody I really liked; probly the first person to Greet themwhen they joined left for weasyl, but now she is back, and isn't close to her monthly goal outside of FA....

It is kind of sad. Of course there other factors; like the convention.
But still....leaving FA seems to do artists more harm then good

Well, some of these guys depend n their commissions for income. So yeah....just like desperates in the street, you may have to break moral code to survive

It's the standard Social Justice Warrior bandwagon jumping bullshit. Posers, Hipsters and fakes getting up in arms about something that A: doesn't involve them, B: wasn't even true (from the information I've read and looked into), and C: just makes them look good with the "popufurs". The artists who jumped ship are all suspiciously still here.

I didn't leave, I'm not leaving, and I think it's stupid to ditch a community that has shown time and again to be the best for your needs over anything short of a personal attack that becomes untenable. I've seen more people turn into verbally abusive scumbags because of this than I care to count, and the hypocrisy of a lot of these people just astounds me.

Then again, Furry Drama.

Most of them have come back as far as I have seen

Funny isn't it?

I couldn't give to damns less about things unless it directly involves me. :3 90% of my watches on are FA and dA. So I use both. but will never leave either.

I still stand by that statement myself.
I only visit A to lurk and stalk Non-Anthro artists that I LOVE
Of course also a large furry community oer there to, but DA is my non-human art center

"Im not making fun of them, but if you remember my last journal"

I would be, it's hilarious to see them come scurrying back with their tails between their legs.

Im just not an intentionally mean person.
Even with jokes.

Well sometimes people have to learn the hard way. The FA staff seem to have always been questionable as hell and sadly there isn't anything as """good""" as FA out there yet so if you leave over some stupid stuff and actually make art for a living, you're just asking to lose money and customers in most cases. And of course the dix I guess as the first poster said. xD

I have seen some artists "leave forever" and come back within a week. One particular person said they returned because they couldn't get even 1/4 of the people who watch them on FA to watch them on Weasyl.

FA is far from perfect and I doubt it will ever improve, but it still has monopoly over every furry site on the internet.

I only now 5 or so people that have survived off a new following on Sofurry, Inkbunny, DA, and Tumblr.
So far I only know ONE person that is surviving on Weasyl, but thats also because of her following on Inkbunny.

I don't really keep tabs on it. But whenever I check my weasyl, I notice that most of them are at least duplicating their activity on Weasyl and here.

The only person that has straight up left FA and really hasn't come back is ClockworkCreature. But even they came back for a little while (in a limited capacity) before recently going "fuck it" for good.

Though really they're so big they probably could use the lack of publicity haha.

ClockworkCreature?
Ah yes, the fursuit group I think.


Wasn't somebody who got stalked outside of FA and created a HUGE exodus early last year apart of that?

Yes. That was why Quarazzel(sp) of CC left. But the CC account on FA is a group account. Then the recent exodus, is actually connected to the first.
The big drama over the accused rapist staffmember is supposedly the same guy who stalked the friend of Quarazzel.

Lats month though, the CC account was uploading things. Every submission had a little disclaimer about how all the real work was on their website/tumblr, though. Then a few weeks back, whoever was the admin made a "fuck it, I'm leaving too" journal. I doubt it was related ot the drama (as it was far too delayed).

Like, 98% of them came back.
And for those who didn't want to admit, I noticed them under new accounts.
HMM. :/

Most the folks I spotted pimping their Weaslys made it clear that they weren't jumping ship fully. But are certainly posting there as much as here (in some cases more). There's been a few cases where they post the better stuff there and not here explicitly too.

Given these observations... I think the trend is that a segment of high quality artist folks have set things up so that a longer term exodus is possible now as the alternatives are gaining viability (and we can argue about if they're reached it elsewhere or not till we're blue in the face). Don't be surprised when another big flap happens and things just start going dark here, and people are posting why they left on Inkbunny or Weasly.

I'm no FA hater, but I do appreciate competition over a monopoly. I'm probably spending as much time here as elsewhere m'self now.

But I'm also an a-typical furry (if furry's are hipsters, am I a hipster hipster then? bah!) so my browsing habits are probably not the best gauge of things. I also avoid paypal like the plague (another silly monopoly) so I don't often buy things via internets but instead make cons my go to point for most my commissioning. But that said, if I can find good quality artists at site A or site B, I'll commission at con. But if they all leave A to go to B, that's not a problem for me as I still see them, and thus no market share lost with me.

A lot of the reasons for the exodus are complex of course, but at the end of the day, an artist should have the ability to gain exposure in multiple venues and still make a living even if they drop one. If we allow ourselves as a fandom to do the 'its been like this for like forever so it should always be like this' card, then we are doing our skill practitioners an injustice. As a consumer I'd rather go where the artists are, not demand they go where I hang out when they have moral qualms about such. To make such demands of them requires me to ask them to give up their principles, and that doesn't quite fit well with me. Even more so as my own attachment to any particular site is at the end of the day unimportant to my market goal.

I guess its less of a new site needs to be slightly better and more towards fahas to fuck up royaly or a wwebsite has game breaking stuff and maybe offers money to the popufur artists to get the ball moving

I really hope that most of the artists come back. It's really stupid to leave aplace where you have hundrets of watchers (and even future comissioners) just because there was some shit going on at the admins.

In the end the artists will change nothing on FA, but loose a big part of their fans.

I'll simply note that my submissions queue is busier than ever, and leave it at that.

If I want Drama, I'd watch it on Television or a movie....
I'm staying put!

It all boils down to one thing. No matter how much you say FA sucks, how Weasyl or So Furry or other sites are much better, FA still remains the biggest and well known Furry site. IMO its silly "Leaving" fa its like cutting yourself off from a huge part of the market tbh

The mostly come back because a lot of people aren't affected by it, watchers n' such. So they don't see a reason to switch over. Honestly I despise the staff of this site, but I have so many friends. I don't do anything important, nor am I important enough to make a big thing about it, or for something bad to happen to me on this site. I've already established myself on other sites though. I don't think it's smart to just up n' leave this site right off. But to make a foray back and forth rather.

If there was a better website/community. I would be there. But sadly the other websites piss me the fuck off with too complex layouts that you cant puzzle through to do what you want without wasting time doing it..

I woukdnt call it a monopoly. Its more critical mass. Everyone uses it. Therefore. You gotta use it.

But remember. MySpace was this once, ans now facebook is the unstoppable juggernaut.

Until something replaces that. Eventually another site will gain enough mass to take over

Then we can all yell about leaving that site and then come back ;)

I actually took a short hiatus before whatever it was that happened happened for personal reasons. Just had to take care of other things and I kept forgetting about FA! Then I come back, and it's like mass exodus because someone did something??? I have no idea what's going on.

There's apparently a lot of people leaving DA because of art theft blabbitty blabbity 'this site sucks'. *shrugs* They need to realize that the site is really only as good as the people on it... and eventually, the fuckwads are going to muck up the other sites too. Just tune 'em out and live your life. No need to cause a fuss.